People who want art to be challenging just have lives devoid of actual challenge

people who want video games to be art should be shot into orbit

It's actually the opposite, mainstream entertainment used to be way more challenging because the average person wasn't a weak pussy. Now everyone is an anxietyfag who gets nervous breakdowns because their dog limped a bit and our art reflects that

>>712833473
>mainstream entertainment used to be way more challenging
Name 10 examples of challenging mainstream entertainment of the past

>>712832246
>people who want...should be shot

>>712832087 (OP)
Hideo Kojima died 10 years ago, that's Judeo Kojewma.

>>712833963
Dodonpachi

>>712832246
This I don't need pretentious Hollywood award shit on my games

>>712839254
Challenging from an intellectual level anon, not mechanically challenging.

>>712832246
So you don't want good gameplay

>>712832087 (OP)
>People who want art to be challenging
This doesn't really exist. A creative work is either challenging or it isn't and that depends more on the consumer's tastes and experience than many artists probably want to admit. Unfortunately for such a person, actually being authentic is nearly impossible in the modern day because the internet makes everyone incredibly more self-conscious of the public perception on any subject.
Take Kojima for instance. I assume this thread was made in response to the news that Kojima made changes to DS2 because testers liked it too much. Could be a mistranslation on what he meant but taken at face value, it portrays 2020s Kojima as a contrarian faggot who's disappointed that his authentic creation isn't divisive enough. In that scenario, the artist is allowing public perception to steer the art. I mean if that's what he meant then it means Kojima is astoundingly ignorant on what art even means.