Thread 712839353

What killed the Weapon based fighting genre?
Do normies only play Street Fighter, Tekken and Smash Bros?

Back in the 90s oldfags had SoulCalibur , Samurai Showdown, Plasma Sword, Last Bronx, battle Arean Toshinden ... etc

All those franchises are dead. No SoulCalibur or Shodown in more than half a decade

If you want to use weapons , your best hope is to play one of the capcom or SNK collection of all their dead franchises.

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>>712839353 (OP)
People really dislike disjointed normals also they are claimed by casuals, but casuals only really enjoy grinding instead of gameplay

SamSho fucked itself with a terrible release and only had the mind to fix its online after years.

Bandai Namco won't even give us a SoulCalibur collection like Capcom or SNK because they became a company of shitty licensed garbage and completely forgot about their original IPs after the merger. Not like it particularly matters in this case because normalfags don't actually want to play old games. Any game that isn't polished and optimized perfectly for players' enjoyment and convenience makes them feel unsafe, and they don't care that soul is lost in the process. Those Capcom collections always die in a month or something.

>>712842257
At least in SoulCalibur VI, moves with big range like some of Ivy's, Cassandra's or Mi-na's also whiff in big ways and it's almost always possible to run up and attack without the other player being able to zone you any further. Sometimes it's even possible to whiff punish them from decent distance.

Dogshit netcode

>>712843782
3D fighters don't work well with rollback because character animations smoothly flow from one move inside the buffer to the other. Adding rollback makes those animations jittery for self-explainable reasons. Frame rate differences between the players are also felt more acutely because different stages and even different angles might be more demanding than the rest of the game. Someone can think they get locked 60 on their setup but they actually don't and it messes up inputs.

sc was always ass

>>712844789
SC was always great, you're just ass at it.

>>712839353 (OP)
Fighting games fell out of popularity with people for a number of reasons while development costs only went up. These games never succeeded in grabbing the FGC's attention, so they died out.
Your best bet is hoping VF6 does well enough to convince Bamco that it's worth having fighting games not named Tekken.

>>712845117
>These games never succeeded in grabbing the FGC's attention, so they died out.
If we stopped using "the FGC" as a buzzword and itself is a buzzword, we'd find out that there's more player base overlap between Smash and other 2D fighters than between 2D fighters and 3D fighters. 3D FGC is largely its own sub-community.
>Your best bet is hoping VF6 does well enough to convince Bamco that it's worth having fighting games not named Tekken.
But we all know that it won't do well in the West and even if it does, it won't somehow lead to SoulCalibur's revival because the game still has more in common with Tekken as far as its base concept is concerned (even though basic controls and gameplay are more similar to SC). Tekken was literally made as a VF clone with the involvement of the original VF creator. SC plays similar on some level, but that's largely because all 3D fighters owe their core concepts to the first release of VF. SC doesn't even appeal to your average fighting game fan because they prefer a wacky modern setting like Tekken or SF.

>>712839353 (OP)
Why swords? That's like asking a man "why breathe?" or "why think?". Swords are a necessity to life, like a pulse. To be without swords would be like being Simon without Garfunkel. I Sword, therefore I am. Swords are simultaneously representational of a man's soul, and an extension of his body. Swords transcend the spiritual muck of mundane combat. Now, I'm not a religious man, but I practice Buddhism like a religious man, and I have learned that swords are the only truly guiltless weapon. There is no negative karma associated with a sword-assisted murder. There is no blood on your hands when you break into a Wal-Mart and threaten the cashiers with your sword. It is pure. It is sinless (though I don't believe in sin). It is a sword. Are you familiar with word epic? Guns are not epic. You point at someone and then they die. Swords, though. Swords. The satisfying clang of the metal, the audible squelch of your opponent's insides, the crimson bloodstain on the blade, swordfighting is epic, plain and simple.

>>712839353 (OP)
>What killed the Weapon based fighting genre?
shit sucks
real men fight with fists

>>712839353 (OP)
jews

>>712839353 (OP)
>Last Bronx
I'd like to play this game...

>>712846995
fists are uncivilized, even stone age men fought with weapons
when I think about fistfights, I think about a couple of drunks having a quarrel in a nearby pub

>>712847924
then do it
there's even a PC version

you know what we need?
I FACE OUT I HOLD OUT I REACH OUT TO THE TRUTH

>>712847929
have you ever seen a sword fight in a film/show where they both break their weapons and then decide to throw it away and fist fight? Suddenly the fight is more kino

>>712848910
both opponents losing their weapons at the same time never happens irl
if one party is disarmed, it's over for them

>>712839353 (OP)
>samsho
Epic store exclusive + no crossplay when ot released on Steam

>>712839353 (OP)
>Do normies only play Street Fighter, Tekken and Smash Bros?
Normies barely play anything other than Cod and Fifa let alone fucking fighting games. LET ALONE SHIT LIKE Bloody Roar or DoA2.

>>712839353 (OP)
That's because they could get away with selling a few hundred thousand copies and be profitable. Now they can't, there's only room for the biggest franchises, same thing happened to sports and racing games.
It's the same as the internet being dominated by a couple of huge tech giants now.

>>712851670
>few hundred thousand
SoulCalibur VI sold over 2 million.

>>712849371
This is on steam (and sale)? I might've to consider if there's MP. What does N/A dlc even mean

>>712844628
And it’s still better than delay dogshit