Thread 712853605

Why did /v/ lose interest in Maelle and her game?

We all 100% the game on expert without exploits already and discussed the deeply existential and philosophical themes in depth till we reached our own conclusion on em.

she never got porn
neither did clea

>>712853605 (OP)
Get fucked with your bait. I want to talk about the game.

I am at the final choice and i switched to Monoco and never looked back. The Fuck am i supposed to do if i want to see his end first? My Verso cannot defeat Maelle no matter what happens.

Why stay discussing the same game. Why not move on, you can always come back.

>>712853605 (OP)
Because she dies at the end of act 2 and gets replaced by a schizoid named Alicia

>>712853605 (OP)
the bots are shilling stellar blade now

>>712853927
Alicia and Verso are incredibly weak when you fight them.

>>712854148
she has always been alicia

>>712853605 (OP)

I finished the game literally today, so that's a shame indeed.

I don't want to play the piano.

>>712853605 (OP)
Shitty fotm goyslop

What else is there to discuss? Fun game, good story, but it's not like there's any replay value here. It just goes into the "might replay again in 5 years when my memory on it isn't as good."

>>712854436
YOU WILL PLAY THE FUCKING PIANO FOR WHAT YOU DID TO MY FATHERBROTHER
YOU WILL PLAY FOR ALL ETERNITY

>best girl has worst ending
clair... obscur... pottery...

Verso didn't do anything to Gustave tho

nobody lost interest, we just discussed the game a lot and grew extremely tired of the anti-shills, tendies, seething ff/atlus fags, jews, browns, etc. the game is a masterpiece and it's obvious to anyone who actually played it, yet subhumans want to seethe that it was made by an all white studio in 2025, that it mogged their favorite game, or that it's not on their console.
i'll be enjoying every moment of it winning GOTY, topping "best of the decade" lists in 5 years, and still being discussed in 20 years while all of the aforementioned faggots get more and more buckbroken as the years go by

>>712853605 (OP)
>Painted Alicia's letter hoping Maelle could find another option
What other option? The entire problem stems from Aline refusing to give up the painting, and she's too high on copium to do that.

So Maelle forma de rojo wanted to fuck Gustave, yes?

>>712853605 (OP)
Once you get to the final acts, you realize it's a very good game, but not OMEGERD mindblowing like the hype would like you to believe. Good first game by the devs. They'll learn what they need to learn and do even better next time.

>>712854918
If that were true she wouldn't have brought back Sophie and just painted a version of Gustave that loved her that way.

>>712854717
YOU JUST WATCHED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>712853605 (OP)
>Single player game that you can at most get 60 hours out of in one playthrough
>Out for close to two months and discussed to death already
You're too used to games with extremely autistic fanbases like Fallout where they will discuss the same few points to death for years.

>>712854753
Fuck off nigger, your kind shat on actual Jrpgs far too long, now this mediocre slop is dead because it turned out to be fotm, good riddance.

>>712855004
Maelle blanco is about BVC at that point

>>712855000
it's a very strong 8.8/10 game
9/10 for story and music

>>712853605 (OP)
The world building and lore is shallow. Needs atleast 2 sequels that build on the outside world to be more interesting.

>>712855000
Yeah, it's by no means the 11/10 some fags are claiming, but it's a pretty good game, especially for a studios first game. Strong game of the year contender, I can't really remember any other games that have really come out. Kingdom Come? I didn't touch it since I want all the dlcs.

>>712855174
The lore of the painting being shallow makes sense after the big reveal. Would have liked to have known more about alt-Paris though.

>>712855103
fucking cocksucker watch your goddamn tone when speaking to me i've been playing JRPG's since before your faggot ass was born. a few loud retards are not indicative of everyone who likes E33, actual JRPG fans love the game.
>fotm
lol
be sure to tie the noose before awards season, shitskin

>>712855159
>8.8/10 game

>>712854436

End game spoiler YOU WILL PLAY THE PIANO

>>712853840
Is there any reward for playing on Expert?

>>712855440
French citizenship

>>712853605 (OP)
Stellar Blade came out and was actually naturally popular unlike this shilled shit.

top 5 characters in order
1. Verso
2. Esquie
3. Monoco
4. Clea (best girl)
5. Gustave

imo Lune is one of the worst, even Sciel is better

>

>>712855692
I was really hoping for more development for Lune beyond Asian Tiger Parents. Kinda disappointing since she was the hottest one.

>>712855159
Why do people do shit like 8.8? I can get saying 8.5, but why get so specific.

>>712853909
she's underage. And Clea is just ugly.

>>712855000
Name a "OMEGERD mindblowing" game

>>712853605 (OP)
excuse me this is a Lune board

feet gooners have the worst opinions and taste in everything

oh no no no

mon dieu!

did people actually struggle with the gestral beaches? none of them were particularly difficult
I hated the climb to the sky one because it took the longest and how climbing the climby things made your character suddenly jog instead of running and generally how fickle the toggle for jog/run is sometimes

>>712855692
homosexual opinion

>>712854348
Memories is what makes a person, not "le soul"

>>712856090
I'll fight you, fucking faggot

>>712856898
>buttchin
>manjaw
>Caterpillar eyebrows

>>712856450
That's nothing special. A lot of normalfags don't finish games, especially rpgs on the long side. Persona 5 on PC for instance, only a 1/3rd of all players played long enough to finish the casino. Even with some games with higher counts, like say RE8 only 60% only beat the game on at least the easy mode, and that's a far shorter game.

>>712856134
You won't get a reply, these retards watch a Youtube essay about the game and then scavenge for threads to drop their shitty opinions.

>>712853605 (OP)
Versochads won and the game got erased from the collective conscious

>>712856652
I hated the volleyball one or whatever it was called.

>>712856450
normalfags don't finish games, anon.

>>712857185
I don't want these threads...
I don't want these threads...
help me...
help me...

>>712856965
Real life isn't full of plastic korean bitches, faggot.

>>712855279
Lmao this game ain't gonna win shit, if you think otherwise you're a delusional negative IQ fanboy

>>712857894
if you actually believe this you are the dumbest, brownest retard on this entire website. the absolute seethe it's going to cause will get me rock fucking hard. tick tock, faggot

Dropped the game after the main char dies, should I keep playing ? Does it get better ?

>>712855692
>Verso
>good character
He is easily among the shittiest written ones that everyone just so happens to like in game. Gustave was bland and safe, but Verso is like that shitty OC steel donut that writers keep forcing down your throat to like.
You are either a homosexual or a femoid if you think that Verso is anything but shitty OC steel donut.

Maelle-sama?!! You've come back to the painting?!! After I tried for ONE-HUNDRED YEARS to try and save our mother from KILLING HERSELF in a FICTITIOUS REALITY that she TRAPPED herself in because she couldn't HANDLE the fact I BURNED TO DEATH saving your life?!? Huh?!? You've decided to keep this TROLLEY going FULL STEAM AHEAD?!? And you will NEVER let everyone in Lumiere find the PEACE OF DEATH despite being born in a DEMIURGICALLY DOOMED WORLD that the STRUGGLE for caused human SUFFERING unrivaled by even the FORGES OF HELL?!?! Instead of MERCIFULLY letting this ABOMINATION die, where a bunch of power-tripping RETARDS played GOD with human lives over PETTY FAMILY DRAMA, you're going to TRAP and BETRAY the last VESTIGE of YOUR BROTHER's SOUL to save a CANVAS that is POWERED PURELY through DEMIURGICAL TORTURE?!?! The same BROTHER who SACRIFICED HIS LIFE saving you from an AGONIZING DEATH out of his LOVE for you?!?! WHAT?!?! And to add INSULT to INJURY you're going to make me watch Painted Alicia, Clea and Renoir DIE HORRIBLY, and despite FORCING ME AGAINST MY WILL to ENDURE in this world for your own EMOTIONAL BENEFIT, you're not EVEN going to BRING them BACK in the END?!?! You will NEVER let me find CLOSURE with THEM??! You want THREE brothers and my personal happiness would GET IN THE WAY OF THAT?!?! And to make things worse for me you're not even going to bring Julie BACK FOR ME?!? The same Julie whom I LOVED and am HAUNTED in my NIGHTMARES for harming?!!? You're going to let her stay DEAD?!?!?! You don't CARE ABOUT or UNDERSTAND my feelings in ANY CAPACITY, despite EVERYTHING I, no WE, have done for YOU?!?! And if you STAY HERE you will DIE thus rendering my SACRIFICE utterly POINTLESS?!?! Well what can I say but YABBA DABBA DOOOOO! WHERE'S THAT PIANO?!!?

>>712858001
the main char is maelle

>>712858001
Maelle is the main character

>>712857456
leave your house for once in your life
and not at 3am

>>712858040
kek

>>712855692
>Another day of thirdie spergouts over E33
Are there going to be mass suicides when it wins GOTY or what?

>>712858063
>>712858074
I hate you fuckers

>>712858040
>our mother
He is just a painting
>I BURNED
Verso burned. This faggot is just a painting.
>saving your life
Verso did it. The only thing this faggot did for Maelle is get her 2nd brother-figure killed. Funny when you realize that Maelle would've listened to Gustave if he told her to go back and he most likely would've supported this because he was the only guy in the party that cared about her the most

Tl;dr: Maelle (Alicia) is mentally unwell (in large thanks to her garbage family), but painted Verso is just a faggot who only ever thought of one thing; himself. He didn't give a shit about anything that wasn't his own suicide. This pasta doesn't work as such.

>>712858036
>seething My L cuck

>>712858331
are you alright, anon? i'm assuming you replied to the wrong post, but yeah there will be mass suicides around GOTY season, and again in 5 years when everyone agrees it was GOTD

>Verso sperging out at Maelle over Alicia
>Even though he was going to let her die without saying goodbye prior as is

I beat it yesterday. 7/10.
Act 1 was good, didn't feel act 2 at all because everyone was hitting damage cap, so investment into new skills or stats felt pointless. act 3 the game might as well be an auto battler, even a half thought out build on a single character will wipe out any boss. Really whack pacing

>>712858493
Oops, yes I did.

>>712858680
Don't forget
>did the same to her by letting Gustave die and even admitting it (right in camp after this) that he could've stopped it
Also what this anon said in spoiler >>712858402. Not only did he let Gustave die back then, but he fucked himself the hardest by doing so since Gustave held the most influence over Maelle, and has proven multiple times that he will prioritize Maelle's safety and well-being over anything else. Yet, he got the one guy who could've supported him, helped him to get Maelle to agree easily, killed.

You can't even excuse this as "he didn't know Gustave well enough," since he has said that he has stalked Maelle and people in his life before they even set on expedition.

>>712857894
>Lmao this game ain't gonna win shit
Actually fucking delusional lmao.

I did not care for Gustave

>>712858697
Yeah Geoff won't snub his boyfriend a second time. DS2 is locked for GOTY.

>>712857894
Thirdie-kun, I...

>>712858974
Gustave and Alicia's letter would have helped a lot.

>>712857994
E33 probably even won't be nominated, that shit is so insignificant, there's some much more anticipated games coming out before Winter, like Ds2.

Clea is a fucking psychopath
So is Aline
Maelle is unironically better dying in her copium painting then dealing with such a shit fucking family.

>>712853605 (OP)
Because they shifted to liking Lune and her game, instead.

>>712853605 (OP)
I beat it

>>712859216
Anon, there's six games they nominate for GOTY. What five other games are you thinking of that will push out Expedition 33 from even being nominated?

>>712859216
bait used to be believable

>>712859296
>Cheater lumina
>first strike lumina
>some pictos for 100% crit rate
>elemental trick
>elemental genesis
This was my "just oneshot this encounter" build for the second half of the game

>>712858036
Verso's character is unironically too in-depth for /v/, it's actually hilarious.
You see nothing but the most one-dimensional hate-boner takes on the guy.

>>712858974
They never should've pushed for a narrative that Verso could've saved Gustave because:
>1) it makes him look like huge asshole who sperged out over p!Alicia yet he did the same to Maelle by letting Gustave die
>2) it makes him look stupid as fuck precisely because Gustave would've been the easiest way to get Maelle to possibly return as he clearly cared enough for her to send whole expedition thing to hell just to find her then throw his life away in the end to ensure her safety

>>712853605 (OP)
why do people keep saying this? people are making threads on it every day still.

>>712858974
Why did he even let him die again? I can't remember, to get in close with Maelle by replacing her older brother figure? I don't see why he needed to do that.

>>712859628
so many Twostave and VerSUS brainlets when he's easily and by far the best character in the game

If I ever replay the game in future: What's the best way to fuck up boss encounters before you get Painted Power? Once Verso got Phantom Stars, I used him in solo mode to take down the hand enemies in Dark Shores and got a great weapon drop + upgrade materials out of it, but 5 hits does tend to be pretty low once they all do 9999 damage

>>712859002
I need more pAlicia in my life

>>712859408
DS2
KCD2
Mario Kart World
Blue Prince
Fantasy Life
Split Fiction

>>712853605 (OP)
>Why did /v/ lose interest in Maelle and her game?
Because for all the hype about every other aspect of the game, the story was still fucking retarded. It's not even that the writing itself was bad, it was fine. The problem was a fundamentally tiresome plot filled with the most pseud smooth-brained "philosophical" bullshit I've ever seen. I hate this type of story. Garbage every time it's attempted.

>>712857894
His MC status gets split between 2 far less likable characters.

>Alicia can't speak outside the canvas, only grunt and make pained noises people somehow understand
>Cutscene as you goes back into the canvas has her speaking normally
???

>>712859408
Onimusha 2
Ass Creed
Metroid Prime
Death Stranding 2
Monster Hunter
Borderlands 4

>>712860040
It's a painting inside a painting
The ingenious hiding place was inception

>>712859916
>Mario Kart
>Blue Prince
>Fantasy Life
Bro...

>>712859628
>Commit to putting your pet down
>Take him to the office
>Nurse jabs the needle in and smashes it down
>W-wait!
Brainlets seems to not appreciate these things.

>>712858974
He also threw the letter from Alicia away. For someone who the writer's wanted of you to believe was a smart manipulative person, he sure is dumb as fuck.
>she listens a lot to this guy named Gustave and he puts her well-being as no.1 priority all the time even at the cost of expedition/his own life?
>nah it's ok if he dies and the only people that Maelle now has in her life are the ones that support her staying in canvas for their own selfish reasons
>my own sisterfu wrote a letter that could also shape Maelle up perhaps?
>nah to hell with it as well
I'm starting to think that he is just tsundere and that his biggest wish always was playing the piano until end of time. He certainly did everything in his power to fuck himself over, as much as possible by killing every option that might've helped him.

>>712860142
>Onimusha 2
That's not out till next year.
>Ass Creed
>Borderlands 2
Are you joking?

>>712860247
What would possibly make you think that letter would make her shape up at that point, kek

>>712860207
>expedition33
Broo...maybe it can win best indie, but not in case Silksong releases this year

>>712860174
That fantasy world WE LIVE IN A SIMULATION painting shit is so fucking stupid though. Retarded premise to build a plot on. The game isn't bad but it's crippled by its stupid ass story.

Maelle's ass in her tight pants is pretty cute

>>712860498
Sorry that you couldn't guess it, anon. But that's no reason to throw temper tantrums about a game weeks after you played it

>>712859775
He feared that it would somehow influence Maelle to stay if he didn't die precisely due to how close she got to him. Ironic, as that exactly was the reason for how Verso could've easily won; have Gustave on your side.
His logic also makes sense because, he does mention later that he has stalked Maelle and people around her. Meaning, he more than was aware of Gustave's character. Even if he just met him while he was on expedition, he literally saw that man throwing everything away for Maelle's safety. It doesn't take genius to figure out that this guy right here cares for Maelle more than his life. Meaning, he easily could've been manipulated for Verso's own goals because he was THE ONLY one in that party to put Maelle above anything else.

Verso is just stupid.

>>712860142
Assassins Creed might get a pity nomination but it's not going to be a GOTY nominee.

>>712857572
>Ignorant, overdramatic 16-year-old would rather die in the basement than go outside
>Aliciafags think this is a good thing

literal ending for children.

>>712859916
>>712860142
fucking KEK

>>712860510
What deranged schizos make these kind of things?

>>712860227
rematched him today and concluded he's not that bad of a fight

>>712860558
>Akshually you're just mad because le twist is so intelligent and unique and unexpected!
No, it's because it's tiresome bullshit that's been done a million times before and is trash every time.

Did they ever explain why the painted versions have white hair? Verso even made up a lie about why he has white hair he has to dye

>>712860247
I don't think that she would give two fuck for letter. Especially when those two whores kept feeding ideas into her head that she should stay in canvas with them. Caring only for themselves over how this is bad for Maelle (or even them in long run).
He did fuck up hard with Gustave. That one is by far the biggest fuck up of his. If there is one thing that would have Maelle listen, it's him.

>>712859627
Pretty much. It's fun, though.

>that meal was delicious!
5 days later
>umm dude why aren't you talking about that meal you had the other day? you enjoyed it so much why aren't you still gushing over how much you enjoyed it?
what causes this form of mental illness in regards to video games? people stop posting about a single player game because they've completed it and the only ones still thinking about it are schizos mad that no one is talking about a game they hate, it makes no fucking sense. This isn't some live service gacha game, you play the 50 hours and then quit what the fuck else is there to talk about or cry over? Every single player game ends this way, even multiplayer games do

>>712860880
People still talk about Ocarina of Time.

>>712860607
>>712860796
The bigger problem is Aline and always has been. Renoir isn't going to let the canvas be when she's still desperately trying to get back in.

>>712857572
As opposed to? Her rotting away in canvas? Canvas that will get fucked when she does die because she isn't exactly immortal?
She didn't even get a real win there. Outside of Lune, Sciel, Verso and herself, everyone she "brought back" is just a former shadow of themselves to keep up the appearance of her perfect fantasy that she saved them all.

>>712860698
kneel

>>712859916
>>712860142

>>712860880
It's behavior exclusive to /v/. I wouldn't put much thought into it.
>reminder when 4chan went down the rest of the world treated the event like a fart in the wind and went about their day

>>712861012
>Two points of a difference at most
Do schizos really argue about this kind of thing?

>>712860880
All you need to do is ask them what they think is better and they'll spout something like Ubi-Goyslop 7 or a literal Gacha Game

>>712861227
No, they post it for (you)s. Which you just gave him

>>712860880
Both OP and people like >>712861012 are both mental illness.

>>712858001
It gets worse as you go.

>>712860207
>>712860691
>>712861132
>No arguments

>>712853605 (OP)
I finished it a month and a half ago.

It was the best game i've played in recent memory, and will never forget it

>>712860998
You know, this game becomes even funnier when they realize that the entire game basically was men being the only logical ones, while women went schizo.
Well, there was Clea as more logical person, but even she had a desire to go for revenge. It was just men (Renoir and p!Verso) who advocated for getting this madness over it, and moving on with the life.

>>712853605 (OP)
She made them play the piano

>>712861417
>but even she had a desire to go for revenge
Isn't it an ongoing war, and the fire was just the latest strike in it?

>>712861382
She's unironically full blown "bro"con in this webm.

>>712859628
You can really tell how many Level 2 autists /v/ actually has, because the idea of a character lying, being conflicted about the actions of said lies but going through with them anyways, while also mentally waffling on the the subject until the final decision point, and despite that still getting half of the "PoV Privilege" games provide, gets them into full spergout mode.

>>712853605 (OP)
it wasnt that good of a game so i stopped thinking of it

>>712859916
Fantasy Life deserves it, but it's not going to get a nominee.
DS2 isn't even out yet, and Kojimbo saying how he doesn't like it having good reviews cause he wants it to be something people appreciate years later makes me want to throttle him over play his game. I hate that kind of retarded thinking.
>712861012
m.jpg

I love the game and all and happen to agree with the writer about the better ending but damn
There is merit to be had in discussing "killing the painting people is bad" vs. "letting your daughter throw her life away is bad", but literally NO ONE in the damn game ever talks about the people in the painting except for where their lives directly affect how sad Maelle feels. And the Maelle ending makes very clear the devs fucking hate it and consider you a retard for picking it
tl;dr good background for having a subjective choice, but Maelle being a self-centered shithead makes the best choice objective

>>712861417
>Wanting to go to war for revenge when your brother was killed, but can't because mom is having a woman moment and Dad is trying to save her
idk I think it's reasonable enough to be so pissed.

>>712861480
From the context it seems like the fire was an opening strike of sorts, because Clea's dialogue implies a lot of frantic action needing to be taken for Painters to make it out of this while the events of the game are happening.

>>712861675
Where did the writer give his opinion? And I feel people focus on that since in the ending, everyone in the painting Maelle didn't really care about is dead.

>>712860998
Aline is unironically the only character I actively dislike from this game. This bitch was honestly the main cause for everything that transpired. She acted as if she was the only one to lose her son, then even fucked up her other daughter by blaming her, which made her situation worse. Then she went to play pretend and ruin her dead son's canvas, while refusing to admit that she was wrong for doing it. This drags in the rest of her family in and now we have this whole mess or even why Renoir saw no other choice than to do away with canvas.

>>712861793
>clear sad tone to Maelle ending
>Verso reluctant to play for the 500000th time in his never-ending hell of a life
>literal jumpscare of how Malle is losing herself in her delusion

>>712861761
Yeah, that would make sense. If it was an ongoing war, it would seem pretty silly for Aline and Renoir to let Alicia fuck around with books or whatever caused the accident.
More then likely they saw a weakness and Aline is head of the painters council, probably hoped to kill her but got the next best thing, killing her son and making her have a meltdown and hide in the canvas.

actual sex with gestral hair ciel

>>712861896
Oh you meant in terms of how it was presented. I thought you meant the writer outright said "I prefer this ending."

>>712861827
I know we're not supposed to examine the backstory that closely since it's just the setup for the game but goddamn man
There is no way you have this magical guild of people whose magical powers include creating more or less sentient beings and the NUMBER ONE GODDAMN RULE of this guild isn't "don't put facsimiles of real people into this world"
This exact scenario will happen any time a retarded woman starts painting

>>712861896
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BE HAPPY AND GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT LE HARSH REALITY AND BE MISERABLE BECAUSE... YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY?!

Here's another nail in the coffin for Versochuds
His soul doesn't want to stop painting

>>712861675
Its telling how many people side with Alicia because of their own morals, over the actual person they are dealing with.
And its also telling how many times I saw "I picked her ending realized I fucked up, went back and picked the better ending".
Literally the only people I saw side with Alicia and stick to it outside of /here/ are guys who successfully made a life for themselves playing video games for money.

>>712862084
I don't think it's really getting everything since at best, she knows the painting isn't real, that it's not reality like before. And at worst she'll start going schizo like Aline was by the time they reached the top of the monolith.

>>712862194
>Fake world where you're with your friends and family, don't need to worry about money and have your waifu/husbando
>Real world where you're lonely and poor and have nothing
>"I'll choose reality because at least it's real!"
Extremely gay and retarded

>>712862131
>Its telling how many people side with Alicia because of their own morals, over the actual person they are dealing with
To be fair, I did kind of the exact thing but for the opposite view. When the curtain was pulled back at the end of chapter 2, I decided then and there that Renoir is 100% correct about anything
If people instead fall into the "killing the painting people is genocide" line of that subjective choice I talked about, they'll probably subconsciously ignore that Maelle doesn't even care about those NPCs

>>712862102
Go to 8:50, assuming you didn't actually watch Verso's ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbwzf9SNLR0

>>712861675
I've seen people who seem to genuinely not understand that Alicia staying is a death sentence for her. It's not like you can claim "Oh Renoir was lying" when you get that bit in the ending showing Aline looking like she's falling apart outside the canvas from jumping back in again so soon.

>>712859296
There is nothing to like about her except her looks. I'm sad to say it, but she is unironically the worst character in the entire game. She somewhat made sense when Gustave was alive and the main character, but after he died and got replaced with Verso, she just existed.
I mean, everyone not that shitty family got thrown in the background, but Lune suffered the worst in terms of character. Sciel, although shit too, at least looks to have chemistry with the likes of Verso truly. At least the game pushes it in cutscenes and even Verso's ending. Lune? She is just there. While romance in this game sucks and shouldn't even be a thing as it brought nothing with it (not even something you could coom to at least), Lune somehow manages to be the worst option there too precisely because romance in this game brings nothing but one line and black screen that you "did the deed" off screen. Verso and her have no chemistry whatsoever and she is most against him in story, making her make far less sense than Sciel, who at least acts in scenes (like Verso ending), as if she was close to him indeed.

>>712862351
Yeah the family of the head of the magic painters' guild who lives in a mansion in Paris is poor and has nothing
>waaaaahhhhh but muh face
Fucking women

>>712862351
But you know it's fake.

>>712862394
>Maybe I should never stop
Womp womp versochud

>>712862538
>boyhood dreams don't hold up to reality

>>712862351
>Fake world where you're with your friends and family, don't need to worry about money and have your waifu/husbando
She can do that in any canvas she makes herself. There's also the whole fact that she'll be slowly dying as it goes on.

>>712862538
>He's this retarded

I do like that the game doesn't necessarily a bit of escapism of is bad, just that doing so to the point you ignore reality is.

>no retard, you have to control the chroma
>welp you failed, enjoy losing your memories, living an entirely separate childhood that will stay with you even if you ever get out again, meaning you will forever have two completely distinct personalities, guaranteeing a schizo life
Was Clea an asshole or is this just gentle sibling banter?

>>712862084
>GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT
Except she didn't get anything. She is just on pure copium.
Real Verso is still dead while his soul trapped in his painted version is the opposite of happy.
Characters such as Lune and Sciel don't have true relationship to her. As proven with how quick they were to use her, her powers, without thinking twice about her well being.
The only person who did cared for her was Gustave, but real one is forever gone. The one she repainted together with Sophie is just Gustave in appearance. An ideal version of Gustave himself based on HER memory of him, and what she would like him to be.

In conclusion: The only thing she got is big fake world around her while every person that cared about her is gone forever, and the person that she keeps forcing to exist such as Verso, aren't happy. Which breaks her perfect world that she created for herself.

>>712862734
Pretty much. Escapism is fine, all Aline had to do is to visit Verso's painting and have adventures with the creatures he drew, instead of pretending she had a new life inside the painting

>>712862734
>>712862846
The moral of the story is that women keep making everything worse for no reason.

Sciel really comes across as a bit weird when she so easily gets over Verso's lies and dying because "muh husband"

>>712863041
woman

>>712862394
>Anon is such a NEET that they are unable to understand someone wanting to stop but also not wanting people to suffer if he does.

>>712862806
>>712863041
Doesn't Maelle also say something like she can't bring back people like Pierre because their chroma is old, so wouldn't that Pierre just be based off Sciel's likely skewed memories of him?

>>712863241
>Anon equivocating painting something 24/7 for +100 years and then someone forcing you to do that forever with a 9:5 job
>I am entitled to other's suffering
Certified WOMAN moment.

>>712862470
>>712862806
>MUH FAKE VS MUH REAL
Unbelievable how people keep failing to understand the point. It's a meaningless distinction when you're able to fully experience things. It's just the kind of virtue-signaling nonsense people say when they know full well they'd embrace a dream world with full sensory feedback. This is the equivalent of an alcoholic religious coomer preaching against drinking and porn. Stop being disingenuous.

>>712863337
Its that anyone who turned into mummies after dying had stagnant chroma which meant she couldn't remake them completely.

>>712863337
Yes
I honestly still don't know if Maelle's ending having a grand total of 5 different NPC models is smart visual story telling or the devs just being lazy, same as the Lumiere scene at the start with all the copypasted negros

>>712863375
Ah my bad, I thought you were advocating for him to keep painting.

>>712856090
>she's underage
Isn't she 16?

>>712863459
It's okay that you wanna fuck Maelle, anon. You don't have to pretend to hold a philosophical opinion you barely understand to justify that

>>712863439
And yet she chose to sulk over stepping in to the fight if even for a moment.

>>712863593
>philosophical
Okay, let's hear your hilarious virtue-signaling justification for choosing real misery over le fake ideal life. It'll be an obvious fucking lie, but go ahead.

>>712862846
>>712862948
That's simplifying everything.
Not defending Aline as out of every character, she was most in the wrong. However, the family as a whole is to blame because none of them wanted to stay in grief, or understand the other person that was in grief.
For example, Renoire didn't want to understand Aline herself. Her grief of not wanting to move on. He instead expected out of her and everyone to just follow and move on. Then neither gave support to Alicia. A person most affected by these events as she got caught in the fire, Verso was lost due to her, which already put massive guilt for her to feel. Instead Renoire offers her no support, and Aline is even worse as she takes it out on her. Clea also isn't help. Giving "tough love" to someone who already despises themselves for surviving (Alicia) and even throwing them in canvas, when you knew the risk, was the stupidest fucking shit in the entire game.

This is by far the biggest issue with whole message thing in the game. Telling Alicia to move on, but not offering true solution to how she should move on. This is an issue with real life addicts as well. It's easy to smartass to them, telling them to seek help, but one should look at why they are so desperate to cling to their addiction. If you put an addict on therapy to get rid of their addiction, it won't matter if their life still stays the same. They will be back at again in no time. You can't just "cure" this type of thing if there isn't an actual alternative to them to cling. These types of people are already broken. If you "cure" them by force, but everything stays, you did nothing but temporarily put a bandaid on open wound that requires surgery instead. Even in the end, the only thing Alicia has in the end is the plushie while everyone leaves her alone once more. How the fuck do you think this will end? She will either relapse, recreating everything, or end her life. The only difference to these endings is how she gets destroyed.

I finished the main story and still need to do hours of side content but I've been getting pain in varying spots in my hands and wrists lately and don't want to exacerbate it.

>>712860247
Maelle found the letter later. Its contents didn't affect her decision to stay in the painting anyway.

>>712863681
Nobody argued that she shouldn't live a fake life. Another part of this game is that fake lives aren't actually fake lives.
Verso explicitly says that she can always paint new worlds where she can speak and do whatever she wants.
The problem is using verso's canvas to do this in particular.

>>712863681
>real misery
Death is a part of life, anon. You'll understand when you get older and lose a family member
Keep getting angry on 4chan till then, makes me no nevermind

>>712862131
who besides /v/ dipshits and youtubers/streamers were you expecting to hear an opinion from?

>>712863439
What other solutions were there, since both her and painted Alicia suggest there could be one? The problem always comes back to Aline, and she's so hooked on the canvas she dives right back in when she's nearly fucking dead.

>>712862131
I sided with Verso since my morals are
>Yeah sorry guys, but I also would choose my family over anyone else first

>>712863763
Reading all that just shows what anon said earlier, every single bad thing in this game is due to w*men
Meanwhile, Renoir
>He instead expected out of her and everyone to just follow and move on
Wrong. He wanted them to be together as a family, which is how sane people grieve

>>712862397
She's doing to die anyway? Maelle ending is her living 40 years happy instead of 80 years miserable.

>>712863868
>What other solutions were there
Remember when Maelle said "I'll just stay in the painting a bit longer", and Verso said both he and Renoir could tell she was lying?
Simply don't lie about that. Just stay in the painting a bit longer and then put it in the attic

>>712864039
>uh le death comes for us all
Go deepthroat a shotgun then faggot. And that's ignoring the simple fact if she took breaks she could live far more then 40 years happy.

>>712864039
>80 years miserable
Nigga it's just a burnt face. Get over yourself, I'm tired of seeing your woman-tier crying about muh being ugly means muh life is over

>>712864074
You're missing my point, Aline is the real problem. She makes it clear in the ending she's so desperate to be in the painting she risks death to come back in and save it.

>>712863439
based and lunepilled

>>712853605 (OP)
The game is finished. It is a good work. But eventually single player games end. I'm still watching some dev interviews and such about it. I'd be interested if Andy Serkis had a spoiler interview about Renoir but he is probably too busy to do post-release promotion

>>712862806
while I can't deny that is a possibility, it's by no means a certainty either. we don't have the particulars of the magic system to know the specifics of reconstituting people works, and your assertions are based on shit you made up to fill in the gaps.

>>712864173
Not being able to talk and missing an eye is also a pretty big problem anon.

>>712864292
>Not being able to talk
She is already regaining her voice in the epilogue

>>712857894
Nigga please post yourself roping this December. Please please doooo this for me lmao

>>712854648
Did anyone consider that the fact that she is having him age means eventually he will die and so will eventually be granted his wish, it's just that what he is concerned about is what happens to her given that she refuses to leave the canvas?

Sciel exists to be a mirror of Aline since the second she finds a way to bring back her husband, even a knock off, she fixates on it.

>>712864132
If she took breaks then it'd be too happy of an ending which is clearly what the writers didn't want. It sucks she doesn't have any sense of moderation but oh well.
>>712864173
When the alternative is a better life with a family that doesn't blame her for her brother's death then yes it's miserable.

>>712863801
Only Aline can paint humans. Even Renoir cannot.

>>712864438
>Maelle is correct if you ignore the way she is written!
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooo
No more (you)s, you simps really are delusional just because she's hot

>>712864339
Mangled grunting that Clea somehow deciphers is not talking.

>>712864292
>>712864339
It's pretty unclear with her voice. She's only grunting and gasping with Clea when she wakes but when you see how go into the canvas, she talks briefly with Clea.

>>712861006
Rotting away in the canvas without the pain of a crippled body, or rotting away in her room with no one to talk to as her family loses a war.

Hrm, I wonder what choice anions would choose.

>>712864494
Didn't say that, retard.

>>712864249
Not really, as Alicia herself says that there is an issue in bringing people who have died in a while back. Anon is more than likely right there as such. The reason why Lune and Sciel are intact is because they got yanked back fast. Gestrals even sort of explore this thing a bit in their own way. Of how they can always come back, but the version that gets back is always not the one that was lost before. That one is always gone.

>>712864514
She also talks outright in the cutscene when she enters the canvas.

>>712856134
Thief: The Dark Project
Betrayal At Krondor
Aliens Vs Predator 2
Crono Trigger (SNES version)
Doom
Final Fantasy VI (SNES version)
Planescape: Torment
Moon
Plenty of others that, when compared to E33, are "OMEGERD mindblowing," because E33 really just isn't that good: 7.5-8/10 at best.

>>712853605 (OP)
why is the hair so ugly in this game, it it looked like other games like FF or Nioh id be more on board with it

>>712861675
I do not think that is a good metric for determining "objective" moral superiority (if such a thing could be said to exist) if one cares more about the result. I think killing the painting people is worse than the other thing. the motivation of the person preventing the killing isn't really much of a factor for me.

Renoir should've bought property on the other side of the world and then had the canvas taken there. Aline would never find it.

For some reason I initially thought the "epilogue" of Alicia waking up was her waking up outside the canvas after being gommaged, not a flashback of her going in first, and then the scene of her and Clea in the dark with the canvas was when she actually went in the first time.
I don't know why I thought that.

>>712864829
Game is woke (that's why Aline is the best painter, not Renoir) so she clearly had control of the family finances

>>712864556
You locking yourself in your neet room with anime waifu doesn't change the fact that you do it because you are lonely and miserable due to wanting a real girlfriend and somebody to love you.
It's especially bad when your own fantasy goes against you as the only "happy people" are just cheap recreations of the ones you lost, ones that are with you (Lune and Sciel) aren't exactly that close to you, and the only person that you are desperate to be happy (Verso) absolutely hates it with you. Meaning, this isn't even a neet scenario I'm talking about. This is more like you locking yourself in your neet cave to be with your waifu, but not even your waifu wants you, which reminds you even further how alone you are.

>>712864882
Probably because Epilogues usually happen after the story chronologically. That was kind of a bad choice on the devs' part but I take it they did it to try to make the player thing the game was over at that point and there wasn't going to be an act 3 to shock and disorient the player.

>>712858402
>Maelle would've listened to Gustave if he told her to go back
No she wouldn't have. Are you fucking retarded? Did you miss how after learning that Verso could have prevented it she just shrugs and goes, "Eh, whatever, I get it."? Alicia is not Maelle. Maelle is dead. Alicia has Maelle's memories, but they are both fundamentally different people. Alicia shows that many times. She does not have the same attachments.

>>712864882
But it was a flashback? She only lived one "oblivious" life as Maelle, and that is the life in which she kicked her mom out of the painting. And the cutscene shows her "becoming" Maelle

>>712864656
Alicia was talking about the people killed by Nevrons, who had their chroma locked in their bodies when they died. they also turned into scary petrified husks because of that, because Nevrons and chroma and magic paint and whatever. again, it's magic we don't understand the rules to. what you're saying is one plausible course, but that's all it is. I'm not saying you're wrong because I don't know that you are, but I do know for a fact that you don't know you're right.

>>712864829
He should have made a different canvas that just had multiple copies of Lune.

>>712864690
It comes down to your interpretation of why she was able to speak perfectly in that scene when she could only manage to grunt moments before. Clea tells her to repaint her throat and there's evidence that points to hiding the canvas inside another painting but no concrete proof.

>>712856898
You want those kid of yours to go through Aline two point oh? Family visits would be hell.

>>712865205
Damn man why are anons always like this. I just wanna fuck a cute woman, why do I always have to make sure my kids aren't insane, or manlets, or hapas who will shoot up their school
How about I just fuck her and not have kids HUH?

>>712862764
It's probably intended as banter coming from her considering we know that the painters have created hundreds/thousands of worlds before.
I assume it's like when a friend tries alcohol for the first time and drinks way too much. You give them a little bit of shit for it, but you try to make sure that they're safe and don't kill themselves. She went so far as to get Verso to watch over Maelle while she was growing up and tried to give her advice in the endless tower.
Clea seems like a character that tends to compartmentalize a lot of her feelings to the point that she comes across as a cruel person. You probably have to to not to go insane when you're effectively a creator god. It also doesn't help that she has to keep the family running by herself since everyone else is dead or otherwise incapacitated.
If there is a sequel she's a good candidate for being the next protagonist.

>>712865281
Not him but Clea seems like an extreme girlboss. Eventually life would probably become miserable.

>>712865091
Doesn't the epilogue show them hiding the painting away where Clea says "good job getting mom out in the first place"?
But then when does the "Alicia gets painted over by chroma" scene happen?
Was it two chronologically completely separate scenes?

>>712863856
Comment sections, and my friends.

>>712865575
I've seen plenty of comments from people who prefer Maelle. Dunno anything about your friends, of course.

>>712865707
DESU the few times I have seen people defend picking Alicia I just assumed that it was the came people in each comment section as here because their were so few and word for word have used the same arguments I read /here/.
Like almost verbatim.

>>712864173
In the real-world scene, Alicia admits that it would be nice to go inside a painting where it wouldn't hurt her every time she took a breath. Her burns aren't limited to her face. Her throat is burned and completely destroyed. Plus, she lives in the early 20th century, so the only relief that medicine can provide her is morphine. So either she'll become a junkie or go mad from the pain. A painting is a better solution for her. Especially if she took breaks in the real world. Too bad Aline is such a selfish bitch. Her obsession is the only reason Renoir wants to destroy the painting as soon as he gets the chance. It's the reason Alicia won't leave even for a moment.

In all honesty the whole "everyone is just a painting" has completely killed off this game's story for me. I can't think of a single media that pulled similar shit and that hasn't made everything worse. The game started off extremely strong with Gustave, and you getting to see things from his perspective, feel everything together with him. Then it kills him off and never recovers. Gives you the shitty painting twist, which cheapens everything prior (such as Gustave), and tries extremely hard to make you care about this stupid family that should all get killed off by that rival family for all I care. In fact, after the end of the game, and learning more about these shitheads, the only wrong thing that the other party did was not finish the job beyond just Verso.

>>712865707
Given the horror elements regarding Maelle's face and the piano hit at the end I don't know how anyone with media literacy can say that ending was intended by the devs to come off as neutral or good.

If the game is taken as a 'message' to someone experiencing grief, and how to handle it, then we see why Verso's ending is considered good. Because in the real life response to grief, Verso's choice tends to yield the better real life, long term result. Maelle's tends to seem good at first but leads to suffering down the line.

>>712866030
>magic is literally real
>BUT DUDE NO MEDICINE
kek okay champ

ive finished and im in my second playthrough the whole game and taking it slow.
Im living vicariously though seeing other people playthrough of the game just to somehow relive the game with new eyes and just listening to the whole soundtrack which is ridiculously long.
I cant stop listening to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5A5yr5STzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ4DHDX-pQk

>>712864763
Half that list is mediocre. Doom barely had a story other than "hell broke free kill the demons"

>>712866047
In game's defense: Even with how much downhill the story gets with act 2 and onwards, it's still above most of story slop in most video games nowadays. Especially for a first time writer who randomly got hired.

>>712866125
Magic that can only exist inside of a canvas, and a brand of magic that Alicia is notoriously shit at regardless.

If they could just magic away injuries, Renoir would have healed Alicia as soon as he was able to. The fact that she's scarred and crippled means that's not possible.

>>712866334
There are songs missing from the OST. You will discover this eventually if you listen long enough while playing. We need a Full release of the music.

>>712866417
>Magic that can only exist inside of a canvas
Incorrect

>>712866065
the Maelle ending leads with the good part about Lumiere being saved and ends with the bad part about Verso suffering and Maelle deteriorating. The Verso ending leads with the bad part where your friends disintegrate and ends with the good part where the family deals with grief. Almost like that one Italian painting technique with strong contrast between light and dark, chiaroscuro. I wonder if there's another way of saying that.

Also the devs said that neither ending is supposed to be the good one. "ah, but it is obvious that I am right" isn't really a cutting counterblow.

>>712856965
Western females are intentionally made ugly.
That being said, there is nothing wrong with clea. She looks like a real person

>>712865460
>Clea says "good job getting mom out in the first place"?
No. The epilogue takes place during Monolith Year 49 inside the canvas. During the epilogue Alicia says if Aline gets kicked out of the painting she'll just jump back in so they have to hide the canvas first. Clea compliments Alicia on the idea and the "clever hiding spot". She then states that Maman will still eventually find the canvas, and that this only ends if Alicia destroys the canvas, which is when she enters and is reborn as Maelle, eventually aging to 16 at Monolith year 33.
Once the Paintress is defeated in ACT 2 Aline is kicked out. It can be assumed that Aline seeks out the canvas in the real world during ACT3 and as Clea predicts, finds it again.

>>712856965
I already find it kind of weird how every single man and woman has been brainwashed by makeup but I absolutely refuse to believe that there are actually niggers who prefer pencil-thing drawn on eyebrows over real ones

>>712866589
How did they move the canvas while Aline is currently inside it, with Renoir also battling her?

Best weapon for Verso and Maelle?

>>712866047
>nooooo the fake people in the story are fake within the context of the story now I can't empathize with them huuuuuuuurrrrrrrr

Fucking idiot.

>>712866486
To give anon some grace, we get one optional line of dialogue during the Act 2 epilogue talking about how the powers can be used IRL.

>>712866728
Medalum for Maelle, the one that starts you at B rank for Verso for most of the game, then the one that starts you at S rank once you can parry every attack

>>712866716
Not explained. It can only be assumed that once someone links to the canvas it can still be moved without breaking that connection.

>>712866065
Ironically retards like you that use terms like media literacy seem to lack it most if you think presentation is all there is to the scene. Her ending is framed in a fucked up manner but has elements of good while Verso's is framed nicely but has dark implications.

>>712860510
How much tome would this take to make?

>>712866728
Chevalam for Verso, Medalum for Maelle

>>712866047
The twist could work if Gustave kept being mc. Then you could get potentially interesting dilemma over how much they (painted people) are real or not. Having both mc and the game question it after such reveal.
The issue is that he gets killed off, and other painted characters (Lune+Sciel) get completely side-lined for some extremely one sided shitty family drama. The game even encourages you not to think about painted world much. Of how much sentient are they truly, or is it just chat GPT pro max that considers itself real due to being programmed that way. Nope. Nothing outside of this garbage family and their drama matters.
Which is why so-called ending dilemma is so extremely one sided as well. Maelle is obvious in the wrong and Verso is not. Which further reinforces the idea that you shouldn't think about painted world, its people, as anything other than "save filed deleted" in terms of morality (how good/bad is to delete them all).

>>712866125
Fucking idiot you are. Alicia has scars from the fire and a hole where her eye should be. It's obvious they don't have magic that would fix it or at least ease her suffering because as she admits every breath hurts.

>>712867018
Magic is making her heal superhumanly fast, not instantly

>>712866957
A shame. I wonder if it's a part of the lower budget that there are so many plot threads that seem important or if it was always supposed to be part of the Act 2 rug-pull

>>712860675
That wouldnt translate to a 16 year old here. For one, she has all her previous memories back, so thats 32 years total. Eith all the death and shit around everyone in Lumiere, she would have a much more mature personality. Kids start working at around 6 or so there. These kids would grow up very fast, by the time she's 16, she is middle aged for thag time. Late 20s is the end of life

I don't think its fair to judge her next to a modern 16 year old living in the West.

>>712866738
Nta but your post is the only one winning the most retarded post posted itt so far. Take meds.

>>712865907
Versofag arguments are so much more profound and varied
>painted people aren't real
>but what about Verso's soul
>just move on bro

>>712867124
>Doesn't even get to watch Verso (forcefully) play the piano.

>>712860880
Most people are playing online games still, I think steam shows less than 30% play new stuff regularly

>>712867128
Do you honestly believe that if you wipe a 16 year old's brain 5 times in a row, letting her live to 16 every time, she now has the maturity and wisdom of a 96 year old?

>>712861012
Thanks for posting to A games

>>712867068
Where in the game is it mentioned that this is how it works?

>>712867198
Never look at the medians on Steam Replay, shit's depressing. It's always something like 4 games played a year

>>712861521
Just speak english
>>712861535
Oh anon you're so contrarian. I cant imagine your refined taste

>>712867158
All of these are right though.

Is there any other JRPG that has a combo meter

>>712867387
En este vídeo es unirónicamente una amante de los hermanos

>>712866514
Unfortunately they botched that if they really wanted the endings to seem "equal" because Maelle's is considerably more heavy handedly negative, at least partly due to "final word" syndrome where the final thing you show is the takeaway of something far more than even the scene right before. Also the only one really horrific looking in Verso's ending is Lune. Monoco and Esquie are entirely accepting of it. Even Sciel seems her usual Sciel self, quickly absorbing and accepting what happens. Maelle looks terrified but we know Verso is doing it for her own good. They needed a better negative impression on the Verso scene to properly balance Maelle's

>>712861675
Under normal circumstances I'd agree with you. I also know that Renoir is one of the only reasonable ones.
However, due to Alicia's life being a living hell, I cant blame her for taking thay option. She can barley get around or even breathe, her body is covered in what I would think to be extremely painful scars, she can hardly communicate, and she had only one eye!

I think any reasonable person in her situation would take it. Especially of the illusion breaks and you glimpse back at your reality.

I'd rather take a few good years that I enjoy over a long suffering.

>>712865907
I mean I don't know what you've read or where you're reading it but there are only so many things you could say about either ending. assuming someone outside of 4chan is "in" on 4chan is the kind of thing that'll get you in a lot of trouble someday if you aren't careful

>>712861896
The whole game is a "sad tone." None of that means the writers don't like it. Its clear that both endings have trade offs. On one hand Maelle gets to live out some time free of her real existence, while the trade off begins to show

>>712867638
>They needed a better negative impression on the Verso scene to properly balance Maelle's
You can kinda see that as she ends up alone by Verso's grave with her friends fading and Gustave waving at her to come on over. Suicide within a year ending tbqh

>>712866047
The issue is that everything is obviously black and white after this reveal.
Let us take D:BH as example. I considering this game ass and it has lot of issues as well. However, it explores this concept better as it is giving you the perspective of androids firsthand. Which confuses your own morality on how real are these androids.
In this game we did have that at start, but after Gustave dies, it just stops mattering. Lune and Sciel are such noncharacters, that it's hard to have this type of debate due to them. Monoco and Esquie don't invoke any debate at all. Verso just wants to kamikaze. The only one was Gustave, but he died before this twist was revealed to show how he would take it. To explore this type of thing further.

It's hard to feel for painted world as such (possibly support Maelle) when this is all so painfully one-sided.

>>712867886
Except waving goodbye to NPCs as you uninstall a very fun game is a good ending, not a bad one

>>712853605 (OP)
Because we 100% completed the game and talked about it for a few weeks already.

>>712861675
Most arguments for Maelle ending I've seen outside of here barely care for Maelle herself and focus on the painted people

>>712853605 (OP)
She's 16

>>712867886
The problem is the characters are waving which is a happy gesture. If they had been shown as more solemn as they faded away and Maelle/Alicia crying or something then they'd have a better counterpoint to Maelle's ending's negative.

>>712867984
>>712868065
Gustave isn't waving goodbye.

>make my way through hours of grind to finally beat Simon
>100% the game
>check out a "no dodging or parrying" challenge run later
>dude is taking like 200 damage from each of Simon's swings
>I was taking more like 5000
Fuck, I could have had it so much easier if I used buffs. I already equipped all the defensive pictos and he was still oneshotting me on some attacks

>>712863337
>>712863496
That's not at all how the story went. The chroma is used to create things in the painting, Maelle can only cobbel together some half dead looking dudes because clea did something to doesn't allow the chroma to recirculate.
Clea did something before Maelle entered the painting to help her father out, I don't remember exactly what, but it stops painters from reusing the chroma. That is the reason the "mummies" look like that.

I assume by the end roll, Alicia has full control over the chroma much like Aline would before clear blocked it

>>712868115
She remembers him as her big brother always inviting her for another adventure :) How nice
You can try to twist it as much as you want, you know just as well as I do that "see beloved characters for one last time as you close that chapter forever, keeping the good memories" is a happy ending

>>712867921
It sounds like you just didn't connect with the other characters which is your own experience, but many of us did and were able to stay invested. I think they knew the risk they were taking with Gustave and chose to take it anyway because that is how they wanted their story to go. For some it won't hit.

>>712867638
I looked up "final word syndrome" to see if that was a real thing and it's not, but I still more or less get what you mean. Even as a Maelle ending advocate I do think the "vibes" weren't sold as equally as they should have been.

If I could have my own unlimited money wishlist interpretation of the Verso ending, I would have made it a thematic repeat of Gustave's death at the end of Act 1, except you're painted Renoir. You have to kill Lune yourself, who's as weak as Gustave was because she entered the bullshit painting-core-space. Verso would then say more or less the same thing to a "dying" Maelle in that "you won't understand this now, but this is a kindness, not a cruelty." Make Verso (and the player) earn their "noble" tragedy instead of handing it to him. Maybe even have some kind of "Verso End B" if you maxed out your social link. I hate the Verso ending personally, but I would have at least thought it was "cooler" if it had more follow-through on its negatives.

>>712868226
>trying to lecture me on how chroma works when you don't even remember it was the nevrons who lock up chroma
Shut the fuck up, cunt

>>712863987
Yep, I agree with renoir, but I cant blame Aline or Alicia for their decision. Clearly you don't have kids and you've never had to make a tough decision in life

>>712868276
Watching beloved characters disappear because they were destroyed against your will sure is happy, anon.

>>712864132
Well inside the painting, that's a full life. Time in relative

>>712868476
>you can try to twist it as much as you want
Enjoy your jumpscare ending, truly the thinking man's choice is to hook yourself up to the fent drip for the rest of your life kek
Keep seething

>>712866047
>>712867921
Killing off Gustave when they did was honestly the worst mistake they made. Not developing characters such as Sciel or feet chick, by making you care for them, was another. There just should've been better conflict in morality over this whole thing. It's hard to give a fuck for painted people truly when only one anyone cared about was Gustave, and game was quick to replace him. Even Maelle is like whatever upon finding out the truth. She isn't even mad when Verso confesses to her that Gustave died due to him. Hell, Verso was the one to have better reaction when Maelle got rid of Alicia (painted), than she did when he said her that.

>>712856898
thats my girlfriend youre posting

>>712864979
Im glad you can sympathize

>>712868629
Only caring about characters that are called main character is a sign of low IQ

>>712868291
I mean the phenomena of people perceiving someone who gets the "final word" as the winner but applied to media, where what people take away is more heavily influenced by the ending. How a bad ending for example can "ruin" a story. It isn't necessarily specifically called that in some scientific sense if that's what you are talking about. But I didn't intend it to be a scientific term, just one people could understand colloquially.

And I agree--the vibes were not done properly to equalize them, leading many to conclude Verso's ending is the "good" end, even if that is not what the devs intended.

>>712858040
its settled. maelle a cute

>>712868629
>Even Maelle is like whatever upon finding out the truth. She isn't even mad when Verso confesses to her that Gustave died due to him
Hint #352 that Malicia is not the same being as Maelle who died after Act 2

This is how it must have been like when Greeks made up myths about their gods
>yeah of course these divine beings don't give a shit about us NPC humans, only their family drama matters

>>712866125
Can you show me the magic antidote? I must've missed that in the "real world" section of the game

>>712868287
Not really his own experience as nobody gives two lying fucks for Sciel or Lune (outside of gooning) as characters, and they are the ones who are most in support of painted ending. Meanwhile, characters that you would feel connected to such as Monoco or Esquie are in support of said Verso.
This whole thing isn't even a debate as such, which what that anon and others who are criticizing story post-Gustave's death keep saying as well. This isn't just /v/ thing. Even normal fags outside of this place criticize this thing right here. Of how morality over a painted world just doesn't exist and the right choice is more than clear.

>>712860006
>This world is fake! It's escapism!
vs
>What life do I have to go back to? A life alone, in a shell of a body?

yeah your superior jap writing, bravo

If the game kept going with Gustave it just would've been a generic RPG. For people bored of stories that play by the numbers and don't take risks, the choice the game devs made is a breath of fresh air compared to the average game plot these days.

>>712867124
I think she was there to show you just how common loss is in their world. The entire intro is centered around it being her day to go.

That wouldnt be a budget thing at all

>>712868897
If you've seen the user scores for this game, you would realize this is an extreme minority reaction to the game, anon.

>>712868897
It's even worse because it's only Lune that is truly anti-Verso ending. Sciel accepts it. So, literally only 1 person that is truly against Verso's ending.

>>712867230
Yeah in that world and she gets her memories back each time? Yep 100%

Did you not catch the stark difference in her personality after she got her memories back?

>>712869082
And all those gommaged people. But they don't count right?

>>712869082
I think you can even view Lune’s reaction as “fuck you for doing this but I know you had to”

>>712867230
Also, no one "wiped" her memory, she lived on another 16 years

>>712868345
You're the dumb fuck who got it wrong in the first place and didn't know it was blocked.

>>712869116
mAlicia is a hag confirmed?

>>712869061
If you have any critical thinking of your own instead of just scores, you'd realize that criticism =/= game is shit.
BG3 was another slurped game that felt most polished at act 1. Ok at act 2 and just rushed at act 3. E33 is similar case to it. Might be European game curse at this point.

>>712869287
Depends on your definition

>>712869128
Yes, because they are even bigger non-characters than either Lune or Sciel who just exist for entire game. This is like arguing in GTA that one should feel for pedestrians you ran through in your car, saying "think about pedestrians you killed"

>>712869304
The reactions aren't even that of a flawed game that went wrong half way through with Gustave but rather universal acclaim, anon.

>>712868880
yeah i was surprised i dont see more greco-roman/olympus metaphors here. this is a very good olympic rendition. usually we just get it with shitty togas and whatnot. this was a great adaptiation of sophia/prometheus

>>712869421
Killing pedestrians in GTA does say something about your character even if they are non-entities. It's why I prefer GTA to have either non-speaking characters or sociopath mains GTA3 and VC worked. GTASA failed in this manner, by having a likeable main CJ, who I didn't feel it would be in character running over npcs.

>>712869128
Nobody cares about city full of people that Vergil got killed in DMC5 due to his autism as long as Vergil himself got to be alive and playable. I could go on with multiple other games as example. Like it or not, in every fiction (be it movie or game) nobody cares for average Joe in the universe as much as about character that is actively in the story. Out of them all only Lune opposes Verso. The fact that you had to bring randos for some dumb counterargument further proves just how painfully biased the whole morality of the game is. There isn't even an illusion that would fool you into supporting Maelle because everything about her choice is made to be bad as fuck on purpose. She herself is made into self-absorbed crazy bitch to make the whole thing even easier.

>>712869470
TW3 main story must be 10/10 despite witcher fags themselves shitting on it, even back then. Agreeing that DLC story saves the atrocity that was the main one.

>>712869904
I'm counting opinions here, not saying whether you can or cannot find criticisms or dislike the story personally. The story connected with most people but fumbled for you.

>fag is unironically feeling for literal GTA npc pedestrians that you don't even interact with
I'm not even giving a (You) to you at this point. E33 threads truly are filled with special kinds of people that aren't seen anywhere else on this board, or even outside it.

>>712870060
That isn't what was being argued and you know it. Verso is factually a mass murderer while Maelle isn't. And this is coming from someone who thinks Maelle's ending looks like the "bad" end of the game for how it is framed.

>>712870060
>zog bot

It's a video game. None of them are real. I just chose Maelle ending because I hated Verso. Simple as.

>>712867124
Its because the games writer decided to make a full history of Lumiere four generations deep complete with city politics and all.
So all she had to do is make characters act in logical ways given the set up and have it play out from there.
Its also why you get a lot of asides to things you never see and don't matter in the game.

>>712870456
She should release a "Xenogears: Perfect Works" style source-book.

>>712870180
Who does Verso 'murder'? Renoir already erased the citizens of Lumiere. Not bringing people back to life isn't the same as murdering them.

>>712870706
Read the voice logs, Verso was merc'ing expeditioners when he was on Renoir's side. Julie for one. But then there's also the fact that he helped the foolish expeditioners take away the one person who was stopping Renoir from erasing everyone.

/v/ is too autistic for this game and will harp on about topics they couldn't possibly understand because they're incapable of feeling them. You're not too dumb for it, you can present philosophical dialogue to the crowd here, but it's very clear that your heart isn't in there. You just want to win an online argument.

The devs are gods just for giving /v/ a platform to show how terminally autistic they are.

>>712853605 (OP)
It's a single player game that was talked about to death over the course of months.

i'm just able to break the coral with esquie and am quite bored with the game. the story jumped the shark. it kind of trivializes the whole game that the reason the expeditions never worked out was because of a human stopping them. it makes it seem like it wasn't that hard at all to stop this doomsday event

>>712853605 (OP)
I lost interest as soon as I couldn't figure out the QTE timings, which was during the tutorial.

>>712864763
these games are old boring shit

>>712853605 (OP)
It’s time to stop painting.