>Doubles down on Live Service

Heh, nothin personnel kid

It's okay guys he said he feels optimistic. The last time he felt optimistic didn't work out, but there's no way two games could fail in a row!

>>712863885 (OP)
I like that he made it clear that he values a diverse portfolio. The issue being it's just of a single niche kind of videogame that demands a lot of time and attention from the players and thus a single player can't play more than one or two of them at a time

>>712863885 (OP)
>This time for sure
Its insane that Sony has this much money to literally throw into a furnace and burn. Why do they choose to inflict themselves with this when instead they they could have made the ps5 $300, which would put one in every single American household cementing their dominance, forcing devs to actually make games for their platform.
They would lose the same amount of money and they would instantly win forever.

marathon just looks like ass, but I'd love to know how well this shit is going to perform.

>>712863885 (OP)
It's so over. How much was spent on the bungie studio?

>>712866620
Bout 4 billy

>>712866527
Fairgames looks awesome. I can't wait. And I'm not intending on playing it

>>712866620
4 billion to have no control over the studio and also to prevent Bungie from shitcanning employees. Schizoramblings suggest that Bungie overhired and started a shitload of projects only to make themselves look good for an acquisition. Once they got it they cancelled the projects and fired 25-33% of their staff AFTER they got money that was supposedly entirely meant to retain staff

>studio shuts down
Heh, nothing personnel fag

>>712866527
Marathon will likely do Redfall/Suicide Squad numbers, max out at 5-10K players. Fairgames might actually pull a Concord and top out at 700 or less

>>712863885 (OP)
>Concord will be our Star Wars
>Marathon game won't flop like Concord
>No way Fairgames will flop as hard as Marathon says increasngly nervous Sony

>>712863885 (OP)
They should make more pro-fascism games like Helldivers 2.

>>712863885 (OP)
>gears of war 1 remake currently the most pre ordered game on PS5
>they still refuse to even put out a half ass Killzone 2 port
WHY

>>712863885 (OP)
>this has the potential to make a billion dollars
>>how much did you sink into it so far?
>more than a billion dollars
just 2 more games

I really have to wonder how these execs keep doing this. They spend billions on a studio for creative talent to make games only to find them not even trying for years and years on end. You'd think these business types would notice billions going in and nothing coming out at the other side.

>Kills PS5 before it even gets games
>Doubles down on what's been murdering the company.
>"We just really love killing ourselves." Says Sony CEO. "There's no point in living!"

>>712866527
Didn't they just drop the ass creed woman who was their lead dev/game designer/whatever?

>>712869891
Because Killzone was never actually all that good. It survived purely off the fact the PS3 owners couldn't get Halo and Gears.

>>712871185
yeah she's gone. its obvious the game will be pushed to 2026 at least.

>>712863885 (OP)
Who the fuck is going to play a new one of these?

>>712870471
I hope we get the full story of Marathon's development because it has to be retarded on the level of Anthem

>>712863885 (OP)
Well what's he supposed to say? "We're a bunch of retards who lost a shitload of money chasing GAAS."

>>712870471
Because they're all MBA's who only understand business as a form of rent seeking and are ideologically opposed to the very idea of production. The modern MBA major can only conceive of doing business as buying out someone else who did all the actual development and then collecting the eternal subscription fees. It's why they keep trying to make GaaS work no matter how many times it fails, to them collecting subscription fees eternally is the highest moral virtue.

>>712871613
We already know some devs tried to tell them it needs a PvE component and they were told shut the fuck up. Apparently it was rebooted 2 years ago, wonder what the fuck the old version was like

>>712863885 (OP)
>June 13
But it already suffered concords fate 2 weeks ago? And Sony killed the budget for it?
Is this article fake

>>712863885 (OP)
I hate these articles, you can actually go an watch the interview on the Sony website if you want. Obviously they're not going to give up on live service, especially since some of Sony's big money makers in games are live service games, like FGO. However they're not going to mass produce them like before and actually try to have some quality control. In the same interview they said because of games like Astro Bot's success they'd be looking into making more games like those as well.

>>712863976
>2
They need to get their heads out of their asses. And I say that as someone with a PS5 Pro.

>>712871824
They literally told investors they're still maling it and plan to release by March 2026, whatever dipshit youtuber you watch lied to you

>>712870471
Because if it works out it will make all the billions. So they keep burning money for the slim chance it works.
It's high stakes gambling on a corporate level.

>>712871945
>the snoy copes
They only committed to *1* single player game a year, sweety

>>712871824
It was from an interview, standard corpo speak about a game one of their studios is making but journalists are making a huge deal about it because they want to justify Concord. The interview was about 40 minutes, and talk of Marathon was like 1-2 minutes, but journo's are ignoring literally everything else, including details about the PS5 and more Astro Bot, including them wanting to make more Astro Bot games and making it a lasting franchise for the PS5.

>>712871824
>But it already suffered concords fate 2 weeks ago? And Sony killed the budget for it?
Who are you asking???
>Is this article fake
No.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-re-commits-to-live-service-games-says-bungies-marathon-wont-suffer-concords-fate/1100-6532419/

>>712870535
>kills
Please tell me how the PS5 was killed.

>>712863885 (OP)
Can't wait for Marathon and Fairgames to crash and burn. It's going to be glorious.

>>712863885 (OP)
is that a challenge, sony?
do not underestimate my capacity to do nothing

>>712870471
Basically what >>712872034 said, these giant investors MUST gamble to make profits EXPLODE. It's actually easy as fuck to make products or services that will bring in profits at a steady rate, but they want the PROFIT EXPLOSION

>>712872049
>tendie can't into reading
1 tentpole series a year, tentpole series means series they know for sure will sell from established franchises like God of War. In 2025 there's already DS2 and Ghost of Yotei and for 2026 there's Saros, Wolverine and Intergalactic.

>>712866384
all investors want is short term growth. among them, deliberately losing money for long term strategy is UNPOPULAR. but churning out the 100th attempt at making the next Fortnite is VERY POPULAR.

>guys wer'e cancelling the game and regretabaly shutting down this studio. clean out your desks and get out.
>oh no :( what did we do wrong??
>well, we're pivitong away from live service games to re-double our efforts into live service games

>>712872291(me)
Not saying in anyway that Intergalactic or Saros are tentpole series by the way, just that they are single player games that are most likely coming out in 2026. This doesn't even include games that Sony publishes but doesn't directly make with first party studios or if Team Asobi is making anything they've just not announced.

>>712872291
>y-yeah all THREE of these games will release next year! y-you'll see!!!

>>712872150
I'm sad they renamed Fairgame$ to Fairgames
>Studio CEO resigned shortly after the game was sent out for external playtesting and got really, really bad feedback
I don't think she ever shipped a game under her own studio. I can't fucking wait.

Hopefully Relooted comes out beforehand and faceplants so they can squirm even harder

when will a suit decide to not add niggers and ugly women to their liveservice slop game and make billions?

>>712872150
Can't crash if they never get released. Checkmate, chud.

the future of video games will be live service and gacha shit
it really is over, isnt it?

>>712872495
They already did, FGO exists under Aniplex. SIE is just that retarded that they can't make a AAA FGO clone that Fate fans will whale for.

>>712863885 (OP)
these bungie motherfuckers truly mastered the art of sales
how are they still making key decisions within the company with their recent track record?

>>712872538
And streaming services.

>>712866620
3.2 bi

>>712872691
They aren't, the interview these journo's are getting their info from is corpo speak for the investors. In reality SIE announced they stopped supporting Bungie in making and advertising Marathon back when the art scandal happened some weeks ago.

>>712872538
It will be until the next big money trend hits then that will be the future
Rinse and repeat

>>712872821
>In reality SIE announced they stopped supporting Bungie in making and advertising Marathon back when the art scandal happened some weeks ago.
>yeah bro this chud podcast that has 100 subs on youtube is more reliable than an actual company meeting!

>>712863885 (OP)
They're trapped, sony single player games cost 200 million dollars, take 6 years to make and are at best 6 or 7/10 games and they've trained their install base to ONLY buy these bloated overproduced over focus tested movie slop games where your character is constantly yelling about how to solve the shape puzzle every two seconds and are voiced by the same 10 people from the SAG union(who now get a percentage of the profit thus driving the costs up more)

They have to convert to Live service slop or go out of business.

Ironically part of their problem is they cut and fired all of their japanese studios and developers and moved to california because they thought that was the "future" of gaming.

>>712870471
What others said but also they are excellent embezzlement, nepotism, and grift opportunities.
Imagine- you are some scummy corpo type who wants to take a few hundred thousand off the top
Which do you take from?
A project with a tight budget with clearly defined goals and strict oversight to ensure that the product is shipped on time and on budget since it's expected to make back every penny spent on it plus big profits?
Or a project run by people who are so utterly incompetent they can't even get a tech demo for internal review up in SIX YEARS, and that you already know the entire budget is going to have to be written off as a loss because of it so nobody will be wondering "hey where'd this money go anyway" even if they do notice it missing? (Blaniqua the transnigger genderqueen nupalestinian with a degree in gender studies who you deliberately hired as the project's record keeper certainly won't know)

>>712872898
You actually went and listened to the corpo meeting? The interview is on Sony's website.

>>712872996
Ive heard that Xbox is the canary in the coalmine for consoles, and it really is true. They saw this happening, its why the made gamepass and release more smaller games than they have before

>>712872996
>sony single player games cost 200 million dollars, take 6 years to make
ENTER!

>>712872115
They just announced they’re working on releasing the PS6 pretty soon. Despite technology not really making significant improvements to justify the new generation from Sony’s end.

>>712863885 (OP)
ps6 will have less games than the ps5

Just make a single player campaign and I’ll try it

>>712873232
>PS6 pretty soon
Probably around 2027 to be desu, that's about standard for the lifecycle of a PlayStation

>>712873232
>PS6 will just be an AMD shitquivalent to a 3070 and still be shit at ray tracing

>>712863976
>two
You forgot Foamstars.

>>712868362
this has been a deliberate con since they left activision.parsons and co are preparing their golden parachutes with the intent to crash the studio with no survivors.they barely could hold destiny together with the support studios so upper management decided to plan their own retirement at the cost of the studio instead of d3.

>>712873473
That was Square Enix, and not nearly as high budget.

After conferring with the peers of the company, King Hermen has decided to cancel live service games to make live service games.

>>712873643
Pete Parsons made out like a fucking bandit even if he may have gotten too stupid and Sony will be able to kick him out before his final acquisition bonus.

I really want to know which dark wizzard or big tiddie forest witch Pete hired to cast a spell over the industry to fool people that Destiny made a shitload of money. If Destiny made a shitload of money Bobby "Moneyball" Kotick NEVER would have let them leave.

>>712873768
Finally some fucking new ideas.

>>712873175
XBOX gave up so Sony could fail

>>712873878
you should look up what ol marty has to say about him.pete has been on a victory lap for a long time which is why he showed off his car collection to people that he would can a week later.laying off so much of the senior talent was also part of the plan so Sony doesnt get shit.

>>712873760
Wasn't it still a Playstation exclusive?

>>712863885 (OP)
I really hope it launches as soon as September just to see the shitshow

>>712863885 (OP)
>Marathon won't suffer Concord's fate
lol whatever lets them sleep at night

>>712866527
Jade Raymond fled the project.

>>712871185
She was it's top executive. She isn't creative lead, she's a suit.

>>712871613
The little we know is already hilarious. The art alone is a disaster.

I've been off of /v/ for about two years, is there any reason why Concord was hated that wasn't incel shit?

>>712876232
it was a bland, derivative hero shooter in a sea of hero shooters
and the character designs were retarded to boot

>>712863885 (OP)
fallout 76 managed to survive somehow

>>712876349
also, it was a full price game in a genre that is generally FTP

Why are video game developers so stupid? If they want to go all in on a live service game all they need to do is make a hero shooter with a roster of attractive women. It's that simple. Blizzard will try to virtue signal by including ugly pieces of shit like Venture's they/them ass. But when it comes to making collab skins, it's always Mercy, Kiriko and now Juno getting the most skins. They know deep down it's the attractive women that sell. Sony and other developers refusing to acknowledge this is basically self sabotage. If Shift Up ever made a hero shooter with the Nikke girls, it would probably be the most profitable live service game of the fucking century.

>>712876232
>Concord was hated that wasn't incel shit?
The fuck does this even mean?

>>712877258
>all they need to do is make a hero shooter with a roster of attractive women.
Now now now, you know we don't cater to straight men anymore.

>>712863885 (OP)
>meanwhile at sony
>own the IP to littlebigplanet which is proto-roblox
>decide to make littlebigplanet games without the live service features that made the game

I fucking hate this gay company so much

>>712877479
It really is insane when companies don’t put profits at the forefront anymore. If you have a main project that’s super successful, I can see taking on a vanity project and pushing all that dei shit. But to put the dei shit as your main project and losing money when it’s a bust. It just seems like insanity.

>>712878482
Some will say that they make money in other ways (ESG funding), but you're 100% right.
The audience for video games is still mostly straight males, though, this younger generation seems to think men being attracted to women is icky or some shit.
Not sure how we unfuck this shit.

>>712877429
If you don't understand then you're not qualified to answer.

>>712878870
I am asking because I don't understand what someone's sex life (or lack thereof) has to do with anything about seeing Concord as the piece of shit game it was.

>>712878629
>Not sure how we unfuck this shit.
Unironically a video game crash might be the best thing that could happen right now. Every single problem video games have began when it became more and more successful and people who never cared about video games before and who have no passion or love for video games decided to dip their toes in the industry to take advantage of that newfound success. I’m talking about CEOs and shareholders that decided loot boxes and on disc dlcs were good ideas because they maximized profits. The video game industry needs to crash so bad so that all these people will collectively fuck off.

>>712879068
Incel detected

>>712879294
Indeed, but my main worry with that is that everything will just shift to mobile. I honestly think the people running companies like EA or Ubisoft are too fucking retarded to learn anything from a crash.
They'd just shrug and be like "All in on phones, yo."

>>712863885 (OP)
>guys, what we're doing now isn't working. any ideas?
>just keep doing it
>great idea, have a raise
Can sony just go bankrupt already?

>>712863885 (OP)
I get the idea of chasing the live service high but I feel like you could make a bunch of moderate budget games which each turn a decent profit for the cost of one Marathon.

>>712879909
The fact of the matter is that the suits running these companies can only think in terms of "new game must be bigger in scale!" and that's it.
Smaller projects feel like failures to these people.

>>712871613
Yeah, it'll be a surprise if it's *not* a circus of mismanagement and generally incompetent leadership at this rate. We're still months out from release, and the game already has a strong whiff of development hell around it.

suits have no ability to code to appreciate the work nor do they enjoy the medium to understand what makes it enjoyable to even begin coming up with something novel. getting paid to make decisions is one of the most fake and gay things I've ever seen and I hope it fucking implodes.

>>712880182
We already know it was development hell because the game was supposedly being worked on for 6 years

>"Oh, but maybe that was mostly preproduction and they just didn't get enough time with a proper staff to make the game"

Then why are the two biggest innovations they won't shut up about are a level that won't be in the game at launch and a ranking system that literally doesn't exist yet?

>>712876232
>uninteresting character designs
>weird gameplay decisions
>not doing anything that other hero shooters haven't already done far better

>>712877479
but straight women also like that stuff. Also cool dudes appeal to both as well.

>>712878482
What's even better is when they KNOW shit is bad, and that the pressure's on to deliver, like Bungie is with Marathon, or Bioware with DA veilguard, or Ubi's break in case of emergency AC japan, and they STILL barve it up.

>>712876232
Gameplay was completely uncompeeling. Even people who tried it, played less as the betas continued. The more people played, the more they disliked it.

>>712880182
Strong whiff? The art alone and the terrible state of the maps is hard evidence.

>>712880434
Of course, but the narrative now is that only incels like women.

>>712880312
I am fascinated how suits are just consistently allowed to fail upwards.

>>712872034
>So they keep burning money for the slim chance it works.
The thing is they already invested billions into this endeavor. At this point, a single success can't even cover all of the losses just for that one thing that works.

>>712881842
Its gambler's fallacy. "Oh, I put everything on 13 black and lost the last seven fucking times, and now I'm down half a billion dollars, but maybe if I do it one more time, I'll win!"

>>712870471
>crash company with no survivors
>pour a few hundred gallons worth of cooking oil down the cafeteria sink before jumping out to your next nepo contract
>rinse and repeat
Can't lose the game if you are functionally a class of nobility for the modern audiences. To go against your mandates is akin to high treason.

>>712881842
Disney is still trying to make "theme park ride" movies after all the ones that aren't pirate trash have failed. Bobby Kotick made like $400 million from the Activision acquisition even though he left it as a wasteland of rape accusations and COD trash. Elon routinely gets pay packages from Tesla that are several times more than what Tesla's profits actually are. I'm pretty sure companies can't even go bankrupt anymore once they reach a certain threshold, no matter how much they fuck up. Also
>le orange man but that's kind of redundant at this point

>>712879410
Why contain it? S'cool. Let the mobile games pile up in the streets, something something devs who actually give a shit will still make good games for PC you get the reference surely.
Just because AAA slop factories are no longer producing slop for your platform doesn't mean people who actually give a shit about making good games will just cease to exist.