When did final fartasy went to shit?

>>712893040 (OP)
Nigga that's second life

when it stopped being turn-based

>Square Enix spent $500 million animating wheelchair niggers eating soup

>>712893040 (OP)
Americans got involved

>>712893040 (OP)
Did that white lady adopt 2 black kids?

I like FF13 and FF15 and FF16

>>712893284
Final Fantasy 2 and 3 are some of the worst in the series

FF2 is one of the worst commercial games ever released, period.

>>712893370
I never played any of the ones pre-7, what's wrong with 2?

>>712893040 (OP)
Inferior genetic hair

>>712893040 (OP)
when they started catering to western sensibilities insted of only giving a fuck about their own market

>>712893927
So Mystic Quest in 1992?

It was intentionally made for the western audience.

>>712893370
>FF2 is one of the worst commercial games ever released, period.
>I like FF13 and FF15 and FF16
What an unbelievably stupid post.

>>712893407
He hates actual RPG mechanics, as you can see by his list of games he actually likes.

how insecure does one have to be to be upset at a random npc couple in a video game ?

>>712893040 (OP)
why are ESLs so insufferable

>>712893370
I like FF13 and I somewhat like 16. I hate 15.

>>712893370
what a retard

>>712893216
Lmao Cloud looks like he has Paris Syndrome.

>>712893040 (OP)
>When did final fartasy went to shit?
at Final Fantasy 1

>ESLs still seething over this game

yikes

>>712893216
>smeared shit filter
>NPCs look out of place

>>712893216
They look like Inzoi niggers

>>712893040 (OP)
The Spirits Within

>>712893186
This.
XV was a prelude of things to come.
With XVI, Yoshi atleast had enough sense to put in timely accesories (begrudingly or not) in order to not leave geriatrics out in the cold
Rebirth plays like it's openly ashamed of being jRPG with turn-based legacy and actively hates you if you dont play it like an action game. Synergies are not a good replacement for materia birth.

>>712893040 (OP)
during covid
dei agents infiltrated japan

>>712898367
I just don't understand why square hates turn-based so much. I know it doesn't sell as well as action games but despising it is another thing entirely.

it was never good

>>712893186
>when it stopped being turn-based
FF7 Remake and Rebirth are both turn-based, you absolute retard.

>>712893040 (OP)
12

>>712898954
That seems pretty good to me

>>712893040 (OP)
>When did final fartasy went to shit
GMS!

>FF7 Remake and Rebirth are both turn-based

>>712894470
they have united states fatigue

>>712893040 (OP)
The real answer no one wants to hear is VII was the beginning of the end. The goal to keep moving towards realistic graphics started with VII with their push for FMVs and "Hollywood Production" as seen in their push during advertising.
That led to Spirits Within, which forced the Enix Merger, and thus the big crash out development of XII, leading to longer and longer dev times to keep pushing for realistic graphics when they should have stayed stylized since the start.

That said, they should have given some of their side games a number. Games like Type-0, World of, & Stranger of Paradise should have been given numbers, to give them gravitas and marketing needed for their long dev cycle.

>>712893370
You never played 3 and it shows.

When it became mainstream so now instead of being able to play a game in peace I have to listen to retards screech at each other about how the game is either too woke or not woke enough.

>>712899390
I did though

I hated the jobs system, forcing you to switch to 3 black mages or 3 dragoons is not fun

>>712899201
You can't perform any special attacks until the action bar fills.
>b-b-b-but it happens in real time
That's the definition of Action Turn-Based (ATB) combat retard.

>>712898637
turn based was a result of technological constraints, they never wanted it to be turn based, which is why they created ATB. Once the technology was there to make it action they just did it and I don't think they are ever going back to turn based. Turn based is brainless stupid crap that just has you pressing attack and healing for countless of hours. There is barely any strategy or involvement in it.

I don't care what aging twitch streamers from a shit country say, X-2 was a fun game, and I'm tired of pretending that it wasn't.

>>712899465
> they never wanted it to be turn based, which is why they created ATB. Once the technology was there to make it action they just did
>implying that the technology to make an action RPG was impossible on the PS2
They was clearly something else holding them back. Probably fear from backlash by changing things too drastically all at once.

>>712899530
Yeah X-2 was legit.
In fact I liked it more than X, as it didn't have the repetative shrines, Tidus and had a job system.

>>712899465
does it need to be very skillful or strategic? I never played turn-based JRPGs for the difficulty, I play them cause they're a lot of fun

>>712899461
I always tell people that. The ATB system they have been using since like FF4 has you waiting for the bar to fill before you attack, it's not turn based. FF hasn't been turn based since then.

The ATB system in FF7R is the natural evolution of what we had since FF4. Instead of waiting for the bar to fill up now you can move around and there is more involvement, strategy and tactics that you can use. It's literally the best combat they have ever made and the best combat in an Rpg ever. Period.

>>712899707
it really depends on what you consider turn-based. If you mean absolutely nothing happened till you you select an option then yeah most of the FF games aren't turn-based

>>712899459
Pixel Remaster fixes it.

>>712898954
x3d's tifa >>>

>>712893040 (OP)
>When did final fartasy went to shit?
From the moment FF13 existed.
Everything after was trying to make up for FF13 and it's terrible sequels.
FF14 was rushed, FF15 was rushed and then both struggled early on and then FF16 was rushed to make up for that.

Final fantasy's downfall came from Motomu Toriyama and his obsession with making more dogshit games so he could make more of his waifu Lightning.

Every problem Final fantasy has today has to do with making up for loss after loss after loss going back to FF13.

I'll never touch a square-nigger game ever again

the downfall begun when they stopped being Square eugEnix

>>712893370
Japan was learning, then Japan got good, then they started involving USA and it took a turn for the worse.

>>712893040 (OP)
>when did went to shit