>Ayn Rand...LE BAD

Too much of anything isn't good for you baby.

>>712894810
Woke gay anti-white communist propaganda

>>712894746 (OP)
alyssa is right about this game

>>712895008
Any of that isn't good for you either baby.

Rob Levine is a jewrat but Ayn Rand is a laughably bad writer and philosopher.

>>712895056
Whos alyssa

>>712894746 (OP)
>t. Fontaine's puppet

I don't care for Jews.

yes

>>712894746 (OP)
It was never point anyway. They used objectivism because it was interesting ideology for setting and story

>>712896439
A gaming journalist who wrote an aritcle on Kotaku about how retarded the whole Sweet Baby Inc conspiracy is and chuds have been seething about her for over a year now.

>>712894746 (OP)
Ive started this 3 times and could never bring myself to finish it

>>712894746 (OP)
>Ayn Rand
I thought his name was Andrew Ryan

>>712902343
its a troon!

How stupid you have to be to find Rand's philosophy any good

>>712903119
it is good morally, for perfect ubermensch types not humans. Significantly less good practically, ala Ryan. Her prose is also shit.

>>712894746 (OP)
>andrew ryan is libertarian
>immediately starts acting like a far left dictator
>look how bad libertarianism is!
wow levine you really convinced me

>>712894746 (OP)
Her & Marx were detrimental to western type society, yes.
Great game too.

>>712904952
It's the capeshit of philosophy

>>712894746 (OP)
Not bad more like retarded

>>712894746 (OP)
She is kinda bad yeah, and after dealing with libertarians for a while I do believe Rapture is a pretty realistic setting

>"Media literate" communists crying about chuds liking Bioshock when they play Bioshock 2

>>712894746 (OP)
Yes.
Giving unaccountable oligarch billionaires power over society is not something you should want.

>>712907715
Did incels like Bioshock? They're way too stupid to even understand it, as this thread already shows

>>712894746 (OP)
i guarantee most of the retards posting here had no clue who Ayn Rand was when they played this game

they were 14 and said Yo Man This Game's Story is Deep

now those promising young kids grew up into jaded manchildren arguing pointlessly about everything. Did this game help in their education? Yeah, probably it did in some marginal way (because they're too lazy to read books), which already makes it better than most of them. Way to go Ayn Rand and devs

>>712894746 (OP)
>unrestrained capitalism that will almost inevitably wind up screwing me over is good because there's a non-zero chance that I could be the guy screwing over everyone else instead, actually.
You are a sociopath, so please refrain from trying to critique social commentary. Or better yet just shut the fuck up in general.

>>712907994
the fountainhead is an actually good book and bill mcdonagh is best character but game shits on that too.

I don’t give a shit about the themes and politics of Bioshock. I like the game because I get to explore underwater Dindney World with superpowers.

>>712894746 (OP)
The story isn't about Ayn Rand, rather it's about the dangers of ideology.

>>712907746
It’s better than giving power over society to unaccountable bureaucrat retards which is what happens in every democratic country. At least billionaires are competent.

>>712894746 (OP)
Ayn Rand is bad. I gave up 1000 pages into Atlas Shrugged because I got tired of her weird fantasies and strawmen

>>712908450
The rape fantasy stuff was cringe but the straw men were shockingly accurate that’s kind of why atlas shrugged is so famous. It predicted the democrat party and also kind of predicted modern fracking and stuff.

Devastatingly painful to read though I never finished either

>>712908429
>At least billionaires are competent.
At recycling you into fertilizer

>>712908429
Billionaires are competent at making money.
How do you suppose that translates into creating a good society? It doesn't. You could've said they're more intelligent and had a slightly stronger argument in my opinion but I don't believe that's a given either.

>>712908709
it post-dicted most of that anon

>>712908429
>billionaires are competent
Compared to you, single-cell bacteria are competent

>>712908769
In real life they are not evil. Rich fags in general tend to be more moral and less greedy than poorfags.

>>712894746 (OP)
Ayn Rand is a Jew and therefore evil yes

>>712894746 (OP)
>Goyim...LE BAD
Ftfy
>>712907779
Newton, Beethoven, Van Gogh, and Nietzsche were incels.

>>712908890
>In real life they are not evil.
>Rich fags in general tend to be more moral and less greedy than poorfags.
Quintessentially American post.

>>712908890
>In real life they are not evil
Oh nononono

>>712908850
Making money almost directly translates into being good at running shit. The beauty of capitalism is that in order to make all that money you have to serve people. Except for the cases of government corruption ofc

I played through this for the first time recently and it’s still pretty good. The combat is fun and varied but super basic and barebones in some ways, it doesn’t feel replayable like most games with great combat.

>>712900878
Nah man Sweet Baby Inc. is actually a real company, I get how silly it sounds when someone on the internet tells you a bunch of manbabies called their company "Sweet Baby Inc" to make games lame, and gay, but it's totally real.

>>712909010
>Making money almost directly translates into being good at running shit.
You don’t get to control my rights just because you can sell cars to rubes faggot

>>712908874
Holy hecking sick burn! Updoot!

>>712909010
>The beauty of capitalism is that in order to make all that money you have to serve people.
Ah yes, tobacco, alcohol, pharma, petroleum, plastic, gambling, defense, junk food, insurance, all industries serving the people.

>>712909082
Lol yes let’s let retards who don’t know how to run shit control your life instead. Because of some perceived moral superiority of being a loser

>>712909124
Weird how every industry that makes a lot of money is demonized. It’s almost like maybe that’s on purpose and you can’t make a lot of money without leftoids calling you evil.

Oil for example is probably the most honest industry there is. They literally do the most heroic engineering and painful work in order to make society run and you fags still find the nerve to say they are evil. Maybe you are the evil one ever think of that? Like a teenage girl who ears meat every day but says that butchers are evil.

>>712909124
>capitalism: people go and buy shit if they want to
>socialism: we decide you'll eat shit and like it, you have no say on the matter, also it's for the greater good

Also the Soviet Union were massive tobacco importers and that shit was sold everywhere, same for China btw.

>>712909173
Or let’s let people who are trained in law who have a general understanding of history and run things, as the American Founders intended and as it worked for almost 200 years until (((bankers))) usurped American governance. Plutocratic governance has been tried before, and its ruination of societies from late Roman republic to Carthage to Venice is well understood.

>>712909010
OK. Let's assume I inherited a lot of money I then invest in things that are relatively safe. Then I abuse some loophole in finance law I learned from my buddies that also do it and avoid taxes and other expenses I'd have to pay if I was following the spirit of the law.
I'm so good at "running shit", right?

>>712909173
You seem like exactly the kind of retard the rich love

>>712906773
I’ve never met a libertarian who didn’t want to be an authoritarian ruler.

>>712909482
> capitalism: people go and buy shit if they want to
After we drug them, get them addicted to our product, and generally dumb them down to be unthinking niggercattle by corrupting their education system and importing brown scab labor

>>712909501
>Venice lasted from the fall of the western Roman empire to the Napoleonic era

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>712909016
Still think it has one of the most satisfying crossbows, speargun in bioshock 2 was cool as well.

>>712909721
Venice was destroyed and declined because its elites started being retarded decadent niggers and getting everyone around them to hate them.

>>712906773
You didnt get it

>>712907715
Communists like bioshock

Just about any criticism of Ayn Rand is justified. She was an awkward weirdo, and eventually got full of herself and became a hypocrite. What I can't take seriously is most of the criticism about her ideas. It usually boils down to "There's a possibility this wouldn't work out well!" Which I could give some credence to, if it wasn't for the fact the people making the criticism are the same ones who promote socialism/communism.
>Objectivism can't work because under this specific setup, it would FAIL!
>Socialism and communism has failed every time it has been tried, and what socialist and communist states exist today do so by surviving off of a capitalist trade with non-socialist/communist states.
>That's because REAL socialism/communism has never been tried!
Their entire argument is that we NEED to keep trying socialism or communism no matter how many times it fails, but we should NEVER try objectivism because it MIGHT fail. 10/10 logic there.

>>712911080
The fact is that nobody actually likes capitalism because capitalists have proven time and again to be gay, subversive, woke faggots who want infinite cheap labor. No even the most ardent of conservatives go to bat to defend unregulated capital anymore.

>>712909526
You can also be Jewish and take out interest free loans at your leisure.

>underwater society falls apart because its elites peddled drugs they knew would do harm when misused onto the general public, causing massive portions of society to become dangerous crack addicts and turning large portions of the urban areas into no-go-zones
Now remove the “underwater” part. This is basically what happened in America

>>712911080
1. If communism didn't work then the USSR wouldn't have nearly single handedly won WW2.
2. If communism didn't work then the Cold War never would have happened as the West would have merely sat there, did nothing and allowed it to fail on it's own.
3. China is communist and communism can have markets. No country can ever become 100% communist overnight. Communism is a process, it's not like flicking a switch. This is why China lays out 5 year plans to be achieved one after another while the West falls to it's own degeneracy.

>>712912163
USSR was completely weak and effective during WW2 until capitalism saved them via Lend Lease

>>712895279
We The Living is actually good

>>712912456
Lend lease is overrated and you're mouthing anti-communist propaganda like the brainlet you are. The USSR produced the overwhelming of their own equipment, lend lease was just the icing on the cake. They were far from weak or inoffensive before receiving foreign aid. They're responsible for about 80-90% of the German scalps taken in WW2 as well. If communism didn't work, there would have been no need for the their "Allies" to immediately start scheming about how to destroy them when the war came to an end.

>>712909028
I know that you chuds are retarded, but I really don't get how you read that post and thought I was saying it's not a real company. It's a real company, but the whole conspiracy theory about how they force developers to make their games woke is 100% bullshit conjured up by mentally ill incels

>>712894746 (OP)
Yes, she died collecting welfare

>>712912163
>China is communist
It really isn't though

>>712909501
USA had bankers since about day 1, temporarily abolished a few times but never stopped.

>>712909349
The oil industry has been pushing climate change denial HARD for at least 40 years in order to keep making a profit while knowing it is a real thing that will fuck over the entire world. That's as evil as it gets, like literal comic book villain stuff

>They literally do the most heroic engineering and painful work in order to make society run
This is a bot, right? There is no way someone is this brainwashed. They (like every industry by the way) don't give a shit about making society run, they're just in it for the profit. There is nothing heroic about that, as evidenced by the whole climate denial thing.

If you told any of these celebrated philosophers that normalfags tried to market to nerd communities as a next step in maturity and intelligence back in the 2010s what a furry is, they’d clutch their chests and fall into oncoming traffic.