biggest fighting game fumble since MvC:Infinite? They basically had the whole tag fighter genre for themselves, no competition since the release of DBFZ, but wasted it all. Over a decade of development and somehow the game is still not ready and now they are about to release an undercooked mess with only 10 playable characters at launch. I wish I could have seen the devs faces when Marvel Tokon was announced.

I don't understand how the company behind one of most popular games on the planet fucked it up this hard

any riot execs that had faith in this project left a long time ago and the current ones just want it to be shat out so it can be forgotten

>>712915008
league of legends was stolen, then tencent advertising cash injection made the game big in asia
there's nobody there with talent, which is why all their other projects are such a mess

>>712915420
>league of legends was stolen
really? qrd?

>>712914932 (OP)
This E-sports GAAS fighting game shit never works. Noone wants to early adopt some jewish free to play pay to actually play bullshit with 6 characters, 7 by years end if youre lucky....
Its like asking if anyone wants to play the new fps with one level

>>712915008
Said company is well known for fuck up said games every other day. They're mostly propped up by addicts.

>>712915530
It was all stolen from dota and its communities.

>>712915008
Riot has never had an original thought in their 10+ years of existence. All they do is take ideas other games have done and attempt their own incredibly safe, no risk version and cater it to the lowest common denominator. Happened with League, happened with Valorant, and it'll certainly happen with 2XKO as well.

>>712914932 (OP)
I remember the position riot had like, 7-10 years ago. Top of the fucking world, won the contest for the extremely competitive and profitable top MOBA spot, had more cash than God. Then they announced a gorillion fucking games, an MMO, a fighter, an RPG, a card game and more, cant even remember. And they all just fucking failed one by one. In fact, their only successful non-league product was Arcane, and they managed to destroy that too with the season despite having lightning in a bottle.

>>712915936
Why are all these companies thinking were clammoring for tag fighters? Is it FighterZ that did it?
>MvC
We all watched infinite fail, a tag fighter being a tag fighter on its own isnt guaranteed success, Im not convinced everyone wants 4 tag fighters in a year

>>712914932 (OP)
>Over a decade of development
what the fuck? arcsys shits out fighting games every tuesday and they had 10 years on this?

>>712916445
Until Fighterz they were shitting out rebranded GG. Blazblue is just GG with some tweaked kits and new art, that said I wish SNK would work with Arcsys for a new KoF with all the KoF mechanics but arcsys stylized 3d.
Im not a fan of neoPS2 KoF

>>712915008
Rito never made a good game.
They repackaged DOTA because the original team was opposed to selling the game (originally LoL was a one-time purchase. There were even some boxed copies).
Every other attempt was either a bust (3v3, Dominion) or another case of "creative liberties on an unprotected concept" (TFT).
2XKO shows what happens when they actually have to get shit done. Meddling on top of more meddling, changes in direction because everyone in the decisionmaking is used to seasonal changes.
The game has already been retooled several times and is going to come out four or five years too late. Guess we'll see if Jinx and Ahri skins are enough to create a playerbase that is currently not starved for choice for what to play.

>>712916445
The team they hired basically played Riot by sitting on their asses for 10 years and collecting paychecks. There's just no other explanation for having this little to show after such a long time. You'd think they were working on some Star Citizen type shit.

>>712916137
Valorant and TFT are still huge but yeah, they've been going downhill.

>>712914932 (OP)
Dead on arrival and I'm not even exaggerating. Tokon is going to take all potential players.

>>712914932 (OP)
saddest game development I've ever been a witness to
I don't like how it plays, looks, or even how it sounds.

>>712914932 (OP)
Should have made a smash clone, competing with capcom and arcsys when you've never made a fighting game before was always going to end poorly.

>>712917302
Smash clones die more often than any other type of fighting game, Brawlhalla is the only one that survived

>>712915008
2xko started development when riot was trying to turn runeterra into this new pop culture world like star wars, LoTR, GoT and more. basically try to push the world of lol into the mainstream with it and the mmo, the card game, those rpgs and platformers by riot forge, arcane and valorant that was supposed to tie into lol but went its own way

problem was that they overstimated the appeal
first the lore of the game was, and still is, all over the place with multiple retcons and contradictions and new aditions that require retcons and create new contradictions
then arcane, that was suposed to be just a sort of what if, turns into a hit and forces riot to add the lore into the game contradicting characterization, looks and story
then riot forge games are mostly 6/10 overpriced games, low sales end up in riot forge closing down
the mmo is in a weird limbo as of now
and 2xko is in the state is in thanks to their hubris

>>712917302
They could've been fine if they actually worked on the game in a timely manner instead of scrapping the original 1v1 concept after 3 years and starting over to make a fucking tag fighter. The lead devs are huge MvC fans and used this oppurtunity to try and make their tag fighter vision.

>>712917506
Im confused why Riot doesnt name all their games League of Legends: GAME.
that alone would buy all of their failed sidegames a good year

>>712916953
Those were never really "huge" merely mediocre releases quickly petering out.

>>712917451
Have you used your eyes to look at them? It's a miracle any of them got more than 5 players

>>712917740
I hate Riot but youre not convincing me Valorant wasnt a runaway success, chicks love that game

>>712917512
Tag fighter makes sense for a game with a roster that was eventually planned to be as big as lol, especially if you want people to buy characters. They also wanted co-op tag fights to emulate the team aspect of lol. All of these goals would have been better served with a smash clone where you can actually have 4+ players fighting simultaneously and it still functions

>>712917815
Dude, what the fuck, Who are you kidding? It went nowhere by any metrics possible, no player counts, no stream watcher, no pop culture impact, nothing.

>>712917740
They're big for what they are and still finding success though, why you quibbling?

>>712918135
>they dont give their steamdb numbers!!!!!
https://tracker.gg/valorant/population
>but bots and smurfs and multiboxers

>>712917815
he's an autist, "huge" to him means a game has to be elden ring tier shit in popularity.

>>712918135
Valorant is a huge normalfag game bro

They fucked up massively pivoting into a 2v2 so people could play with friends.

>>712918152
They are not "big" by any possible metric. It is quite possible that the game never recouped its bloated development costs.

>>712918396
Its not. No player count, no social media presence, no memes about it, nothing.

>>712917631
i think some of the riot forge projects did include that but again, low sales, overpriced and the crux of the problem was that the lol or runeterra name doesn't sell alone
another examples were comics made by marvel, huge flops with lore that is as of now mostly retconed

>>712914932 (OP)
>Marvel Tokon will be a 40-60 dollar 3v3 tag game = DOA
Why does this board bet so much against Riot? You would have thought the company raped their family in front of them with all these reactions to their f2p figthing game, lol

League, successful
Valorant, successful
TFT, successful
LoR, unsuccessful

Looks like a good track record to me

>>712918471
I bet you think PUBG is dead too

>>712918518
Yeah, Im not saying calling a game LEAGUE OF LEGENDS: GAME will automagically make it successful, but naming your shit Legends of Runeterra seems retarded. I played League for like 8 fucking years and the name runeterra doesnt perk up even the slightest thought for me, it may as well be a wholly original chink card game and then "oh shit, this is that league of legends card game"

>>712914932 (OP)
>took fucking forever to develop
>didn't release right before or during Arcane's season 2 hype
>pathetically small roster.
Yeah, Riot fucked up big time and it's practically dead on arrival with that upcoming Marvel game practically usurping its slot.

>>712915008
Riot suffers from Warner Brothers-tier executive management. They had so many opportunities to turn LoL into the next big Marvel-tier franchise but consistently fucked it up due to pointless delays and braindead-retarded business & creative decisions.

>>712918626
Their prior games were copying successful formulas, 2xko is aiming for the same goal as Granblue vs and dnf duel, these are games for a hypothetical audience that doesn't exist

>>712918471
>It is quite possible that the game never recouped its bloated development costs.
yea, you have no idea what youre talking about

>>712918396
Not anymore. Marvel Rivals stole its thunder.

>>712918626
>Why does this board bet so much against Riot?
You and i know very well why

>>712918923
>same goal as dead dud games
But thats stu-
>hypothetical audience that doesnt exist
As you were

>>712919030
nah, rivals' playerbase is terminally online gaymers

>>712918471
What is this cope?
Valorant tracker has tracked 14 million players this month, and that is a 3rd party tracker site you have to sing up to get tracked for, imagine all the casual players that don't use this shit, and the game is also number 2 in Chinese pc bangs since it launch

>>712919135
So is Valorant's. That's the case for any hero-based competitive game really.

>>712919173
Even if the numbers are wrong. Like 1/10th of that is still great by any PC games metrics.
Oh you only got 400k on a low day!?!? Feh!

>>712919185
valorant supplanted cs as the normalnigger shooter game that isn't straight up dudebro shit like CoD, show up to a convention or a college campus and you're gonna see it

>>712919030
Marvel Rivals is in a huge decline tho, since only people in the west play it, and Americans are just game hoppers, i would not bet for Rivals (PC wise)

>>712918626
>dota clone, supported mostly by chinks and gooks
>ow and cs clone, supported mostly by gooks
>stolen concept from a custom gamemode, supported mostly by chinks
>magic clone, slowly bleeding out

>>712919345
This.
Its CS but more casual and for gay anime dorks
>CoD
>game for people who fuck, too casual and schewpid!
>CS
>too hardcore, I played a ranked game omce snd got completely fucking shit on
>valorant
>cartoon graphics and.....is that a girl I hear????

>>712918471
you're retarded

>>712919447
What does this have to do with the games being successful or not?

>>712919447
So if you want a successful long-lasting live service game, you primarily appeal to chinks & gooks first and foremost, because Americans are game-hopping & trend-chasing whores like this anon already suggested.>>712919372
Makes sense.

>>712919686
that the games are only successful by copying others and not on their own merit and that they are mostly supported by obsessed gooks and or chinks
thats not a good metric, youre boasting about having the gatcha crowd

>>712919886
Gooks and chinks used to have strict rules about what games they could play. Part of why league is falling off in the states is because of Riot having to cater toward Korean philosophies. What used to be a fun cartoony dota clone now just looks like Korean phoneshit

>>712914932 (OP)
They weren’t getting far. League characters aren’t popular. League is, and it would be that way even if the characters were nameless stick figures. Only Marvel can succeed as a tag fighter.

>>712914932 (OP)
No Ezreal, no buy

>>712917451
Rivals of Aether 1 / 2 survived

>>712914932 (OP)
Funnily enough, i think 2XKO will be the tag figther that does not flop, only because it is F2P, which these other tag figthers won't be, and i think Riot will support it better esport wise and live service wise

>>712920291
There are more people playing Ultimate Fishing Simulator 1 right now

>>712915008
People may actually recognize LoL as a name, but I doubt anyone actually knows the IP outside of just that. Even that cartoon they did probably didn't work for promoting the actual game.

>>712920508
>in active development
>"10x as successful as the first game" in the developers' own words
>the first game that survived and had tournaments for 9 years
>is still in early access
yes it survived
crazy, i know

but keep posting your steam charts

>>712920645
>BUT THEY HOLD TOURNAMENTS
Im glad you and 19 others get together to play a game you like and devs can cope about it being a smash hit because Dud 2 sold better than Dud 1. But lets not pretend Rivals 2 is any kind of success

>>712920183
Arcane's season 1 success was proof that League characters could end up being just as popular and iconic as Marvel's as long as they hired competent writers to hold things up and continued making solid games to branch the IP forward

But they didn't do that for season 2, so everything fell apart on that front. That and they never made a solid single player game for all of the people who don't want to deal with Riot's toxic multiplayer and life service BS either. They farthest they got with that was some some low budget turned-based RPG, and a bunch of literal-who indies from amateur indie dev teams. If they released a single-player gacha or a competent single-player AA or AAA game with real-time combat, things would be very different for them. But no, they keep chasing competitive live-service trends despite the live-service bubble popping in the west, and their IP having one of the most toxic and degenerate multiplayer communities known on social media.

>>712920817
That looks higher than 20

>>712920817
it's the most-entered second stream game for Evo 2025 and will most likely have more entrants than some mainstage games, like MK / GB.
it had 150 entrants at CEO 2025 to Melee's 180 and Ultimate's 370.

anyways, keep sperging out

>>712915008
>>712914932 (OP)
At the end of the day, riot just isn't very good at making games.

League was just copied from dota and caught on like wildfire.
LoR was a clone of hearthstone
TFT is a clone of any number of autochess games.
And now you have development hell 2XKO and their MMO. Which are also just copying successful games. I wouldn't be surprised if both get cancelled, or flop when they eventually release.

If all they're ever doing is copying stuff and chasing trends, and never innovating or coming up with something new and fresh. What do they really expect?

>>712914932 (OP)
You have no idea the lengths riot drones will go to make this game successful
Whenever it releases it will completely take over fighting games and kill every other game

>>712918626
Song of Nunu, Ruined King, Mageseeker, that Ekko game

why the fuck is every tag game coming out just making bbtag again, why the fuck is active tag becoming a normal thing, it's literally one of the most dogshit mechanics ever invented for that subgenre. am i really gonna be playing skullgirls till the end of time if i want to play a tag game.

>>712922401
All developed by other studios. But it does show that league IP Isn't as powerful as they thought. Feel like Riot thinks they've got WoW-tier interest in their world and lore when that has never been the case.
>B-But Arcane!
Is a one-off and I doubt the average watcher got hooked on the world and just cared for the characters.

>>712917302
I think they were going to but Mmtiversis dying made them change their mind.

>>712914932 (OP)
>>712915008
Reminder that RIOT bought out the Rising Thunder devs 10 years ago to dissolve their studio, copy their game, and make it worse.

>>712922895
Let's be real, it was going to flop anyway.

>>712914932 (OP)
>using Jinx's shitty new clothing style
I fucking hate Riot.

>>712922895
They should've just went for this direction like in the announcement, releasing while everyone was tired of SF5 and used the initial success to keep developing and refining the game. The launch roster wouldn't have been as trash as well since It wasn't tag.
I also unironically liked the SF5-look more than the cell-shaded shit.

>>712923165
This looks a lot better than what we're getting too. Hate the zoomer cel-shaded look too.

>>712918626
Getting a league addict to play a fps is easy. A fighting game, much less a tag fighter, will not be so easy. It can have the simplest inputs possible and be free and it won’t change a thing.

its not even out yet. how are you this retarded

No fighting game (or "fighting game") fumble will be as big as Multiversus

>>712915008
I will not shit on league that much. Around the same time as it was being made you've had ex-Dota modders making HoN and what eventually became DotA2, omg literally all of them copied the original mod for starcraft omg omg thieves and copycats all of them. That in the end League won the popularity contest and DotA2 fags think their skinner box is better than Riots skinner box while HoN fags all moved to DotA2 the moment it released is just their problem

The problem was that for YEARS League was growing and their idea was to just keep focusing on it without much direction. Even as they've tried to diversify as the League numbers started to slow down their solutions:
>let's try to fund a bunch of games from 3rd parties
Generally not so bad results, but didn't have the drive to keep funding them until they caught on. None of them is shit, they're all decent even, but what Riot needed was to build a "brand" among mostly SP-driven audience, for that you need time(and probably more budget). At the same time they failed to make use of timing, I think the Ruined King game, itself nice, was the most hurt by it - they released it months after the Ruined King storyarc fell on its ass due to narcissistic pajeet
>card game!
Failed as PvP game but players enjoyed some kind of PvE gameplay it had. I didn't play it so can't comment how did that look like, but eventually they've pulled the plug on the PvE content too. I doubt they were losing money so it was just a mere fact they decided that the RoI is not good enough
>MMO
First of all who the fuck thinks MMO is a good idea after parade of failed WoW killers over the years, but they needed to start from having really solid concept from the ground up while the game was still at the stage of 12 guys in a room brainstorming it for 2 months now, they've rebooted the development already so they clearly didn't

All their attempts are like it. Poorly planned and lack the will to push them until they settle with an audience

>>712923415
the last open beta was a mess, most of the matches ended in a time out, riot already said they'll launch with just 10 characters, their initial pitch was to make an easier fighting game without motion inputs but they made it a fucking tag fighter after years of development and tag fighters are notoriously kuso and harder to get into, any league player who bumps into a skullgirls/mvsc player will immediately uninstall the game

>>712923501
They rebooted the MMO after an ex-WoW dev left which leads me to believe the game was gonna play like WoW with the tab targetting and such.

God knows what they're doing with it now and with how they're starting to money pinch and milk, It's probably gonna get cancelled or remade into some genshin-esque open world gacha.

I'm so glad this fucking company is completely flopping in the west, insufferable people like nickyboi and tbskyen deserve this

>>712923501
>The problem was that for YEARS League was growing and their idea was to just keep focusing on it without much direction. Even as they've tried to diversify as the League numbers started to slow down their solutions
>what Riot needed was to build a "brand" among mostly SP-driven audience
>I think the Ruined King game, itself nice, was the most hurt by it - they released it months after the Ruined King storyarc fell on its ass due to narcissistic pajeet
>First of all who the fuck thinks MMO is a good idea after parade of failed WoW killers over the years

The smartest post in this tread. Didn't mention the failings of Arcane, but pretty much lists all of the other crucial reasons why modern-day Riot and the LoL IP is failing on an international level.

>>712923415
Must be hard going through life without the ability to recognize patterns

>>712914932 (OP)
>fumble
It hasn't even come out yet...

>>712916445
>>712916953
It is 10 years development because back in 2015/2016 riot wanted to justify the S in riot gameS.
They showed their plans for a lot of games, Project L (the fighting game), Project F (the mmorpg), legends of runeterra and riot forge which would be indie games financed by riot

They bit more they could chew, riot forge flopped immensely with all the games being terrible. They got cold feed with the MMORPG because MMORPGs are a dead genre since 2010.

With the fighting game they bought Rising Thunder, their idea was "let's make a fighting game but it will have no motion inputs so our league of legends players will be able to get into it", but they midway through development they had the brilliant idea of turning into a tag fighting game, making a good tag fighting game is a herculian task they just weren't prepared to tackle, they also had the brilliant idea to rip off guilty gear strive's visual because riot games has never had an original idea in 16 years, and now they have been turd polishing it for the past 5 years. In this time street fighter 6 came out with modern controls which just completely defeats the point of not having motion inputs anyway so 2xko is already outdated.
The game is about to launch and it only has 10 chaacters and most of the matches end up in time outs because surprise surprise, they can't balance a tag fighter

>>712923805
It's an offtopic but tab targeting imo is fine. MMO's have to have this leisurely gameplay or else they just don't work(in general MMORPGs should think how to make themselves slower and more strategic rather than more action-like).

The problem imo isn't copying WoW but the inability to look at WoW and think what hooked people up into the addiction. Sure as hell it wasn't lategame as classic endgame was piss poor with horribly unbalanced PvP and PvE that as it turned out was easy. How about - the classic content, especially the 4 human early game zones, feel like a game with overarching plot, some challenge requiring you to group up and so on? No it must be random dungeon finder.
>>712924197
S1 was good. With S2 you can clearly see they're trying to do too much with the runtime and decided to stuff it with way too many action/music vid scenes while also for whatever reason they took the retard writing guide to the heart and introduced world-ending threat instead of just keeping the arcane being somewhat malicious in the background.

>>712924460
They already said they will be releasing the incomplete game this year with only 10 playable characters. A tag fighter with only 10 playable characters is most definitely a fumble, they basically said "fuck it" and are dumping this mess in desperation

>>712924197
>Didn't mention the failings of Arcane
Arcane didn't "fail" it is a good show, it is just not going to make people play league of legends if this was their idea, it is like expecting people who watches the MCU to read the comics, it is just not going to happen.

i'm so glad I quit league, seeing august popping up in my youtube shorts really opened my eyes about how the devs have no idea how to make the game good, they only know how to pander to addicts and the chinese. It is so funny seeing people like nickyboi thinking his opinion on gacha skins matter. I genuinely can not believe there are non-chinese/korean people who actually think riot is thinking of them when they make their decisions

>>712923920
>tbskyen
Those fighting game's girls aint gonna review themself..

>>712925017
Season 1 was a good show. Season 2 dropped the ball hard to the point where both Riot fans and its former normie fanbase lost all interest in it. It also decimated characters' lore on a fundamental level (Viktor, Caitlyn and Warwick to name a few) while completely rushing through the plot to absurd levels as this anon already mentioned. >>712924945

Arcane was their ticket into the mainstream, non-gaming, mass-multimedia normie sphere and they blew it all to hell with season 2.

>>712916445
All fighting games are the same so when you make one you can just copy paste it with different pngs

>>712925548
>It also decimated characters' lore
stop caring about league of legends lore, i'm being serious, league lore was never good, riot never cared, it got remade over and over again, it literally doesn't matter

>>712925942
And that's one of the many reasons why Riot is failing as a company. When a company doesn't care or put any genuine effort into what they make anymore, why should people bother with anything they make or produce?

>>712925296
I legit hate him and nickyboi, both of them are absolute dysgenic freaks the can't stop complaining about female characters being attractive. When nickyboi says shit like "eeww i'm so tired of these sexualized girls I like my monster goobers :)" I genuinely triggers a primal instinct on me that wants me to beat him up

>>712914932 (OP)
tf happened to the mmo?

>>712926082
>And that's one of the many reasons why Riot is failing as a company.
it is isn't, it is failing IN THE WEST, they still make billions selling skins to chinks and gooks, give up on league of legends and riot games, you are NOT the target audience, your opinion DOES NOT matter

>>712926212
Except they were clearly aiming at a western target audience with Arcane, and ruined their chances with it.

>>712925548
I've seen season 1 but not 2
Is season 2 bad because of bad lore changes? I don't know any of the original lore despite having played league for years prior. Ignorance is bliss

>>712926182
The timeline goes they canceled one unannounced version 2018
They officially announced one again, and then years later canceled it and Ghostcrawler left to make a new studio to do a different MMO

Then rebooted it post-Arcane to use that as a basis for the world/lore. Realistically, its never coming out.

>>712917631
>>712918747
If I saw LoL: Runeterra or LoL: Ruined King I'd assume it's a seasonal gamemode and not a standalone game
I haven't played league in years but last I heard TFT, their one successful sideproject (cardfags hated LoR for whatever reason), was still tied to LoL client and you had to install the whole game just to play it or get it on your phone
As for "runeterra" like the other anon said, the MMO was supposed to be out years ago, so they probably had plans of rebranding to Runeterra as the main name to escape league shitty reputation

>>712914932 (OP)
>tag fighter
dropped

>Rising Thunder Alpha drops
>its fun as shit, cool robots, "modern" controls before they were cool
>riot buys them
>decade later
>??????
Crow died for nothing

>>712926296
the quality of the show has no relation to whether or not new players from the west started playing

>>712917631
>Im confused why Riot doesnt name all their games League of Legends: GAME.
because they unironically want to distance themselves from the bad reputation league of legends community has, I think they succeed with valorant, i'd guess the player overlap between these games is minuscule

>>712927490
They literally made the show as an advertisement for LoL. They considered it a flop thanks to its high production budget and the fact that it wasn't bringing any new players to their already dated game.

>>712927761
>They literally made the show as an advertisement for LoL.
they did but it is a stupid idea, like i've already said, expecting people who watched a cartoon series to play your game is absolutely retarded, it is the same as expecting people who watched MCU movies to buy the comic floppies, or expecting people who watched Carrie to buy the stephen king book, even in anime there are several people who watch anime but they never touched a manga in their lives, the overlap of these groups is minima. This is why the actual quality of the show doesn't matter.

>>712918626
>Marvel Tokon will be a 40-60 dollar 3v3 tag game = DOA
Didn’t even bother reading the rest. You’re fucking retarded if you think that game isn’t going to do gangbusters

No large company can ever put anything out thats worth a fuck. The reason is simple and obvious to anyone that pays attention. Because of the culture and corporate policy that everyone is bound to, any company that makes enough money will soon reach "critical mass" (the inclusion of an HR department.) At that point, even the hard working psychopaths that would rather chain smoke and put their nose to the grind and crunch all day every day won't be allowed to do what they want due to rigid regulations. On top of that, some of the hardworking psychos will be phased out and replaced by diversity. Worst of all is that when a company is at "critical mass" all decisions must pass through indecisive committees instead of being forced through by a single coke snorting sexpest that built the company in the first place with nothing but dreams and speed. Due to a horribly oversaturated market, even a half decent derivative indie title is unlikely because anyone with the brains and talent would be wise to save it for another time in another place. A total crash/death of the industry is actually the only hope for another renaissance l, but rest assured the cycle will repeat forever.

>>712929171
>arcsys shit
it isn't, strive was a happy accident

>>712923278
What you don’t like Arcsys 3D but worse?

>>712916829
They made the best card game ever. They may be a bunch of woke retards but at least they did one thing right. Too bad it's dead now.

>>712929318
Yeah except DBFZ was their most successful game of all time, not Strive. You’re a mongoloid if you think it isn’t going to be the biggest fighting game release in an age.

>>712929890
because db is bigger and more popular than marvel especially when it released
now strive is an unbalanced mess with little to no good content and tokon will be the same with the 4v4 gimmick being boring around match 3

>>712930096
>because db is bigger and more popular than marvel especially when it released
No it isn’t lol
>now strive is an unbalanced mess with little to no good content and tokon will be the same with the 4v4 gimmick being boring around match 3
yep you’re just seething. Strive will die in two more weeks I’m sure.

>>712930350
>No it isn’t
what a cope lmao
concession accepted, see you when turdkon is dead on arrival

>>712930713
>he thinks db is more popular than marvel
go outside and actually interact with normies for longer than 10 seconds for your doordash bro. you don’t live in the real world

>>712920508
u know your stance is fucked when someone posts current players instead of 24h peak.
why is /v/ so retarded when it comes to playercoonting indie games?

>>712930942
You said it with such confidence too...

>>712930942
Rivals 2 is a hi-ACK

>>712930096
>db is bigger and more popular than marvel
You haven't left you room in 20 years, haven't you?

>>712930942
Meanwhile a game that gets 0 threads on /v/

>>712930912
>>712931493
right i guess you tards mix mcu with vidya
i guess marvel's avengers, mvci and that gotg game are are alive and supported to this very day

>>712932298
Bruh just look at Rivals lmao

>>712932808
>cope AGAIN
lmao

>>712931384
>>712931475
>Rivals 2 kickstarter will never be funded!
>Rivals 2 will be dead in a month!
>Multiversus v1.0 will kill Rivals 2
YOU ARE NOW HERE
>It will never have a console port!
>It will never have a Steam workshop!

>>712924621
Project F isn't the MMO, it's an ARPG.

I don't play tag fighters

>>712933630
I accept your concession.

>>712924621
>A 2v2 tag fighter is a herculian task
How about the 4v4 Marvel tokon?