this fucking guy

>>712925848 (OP)
That's weird, some of those games are outright terrible. The Nintendo bonus is real.

>>712926495
Your alternate history where Sega won the console war with their "superior" games isn't reality. Go back to terrorizing /vg/.

>>712926791
What are you even talking about? Nintendo games are for Nintendo gamers, they simply don't play others games nor buy them as the Switch and Gamecube have demonstrated with every third party getting better sales elsewhere. You don't even know about these games so they don't effect you whatsoever, you'll simply stick your head in the sand and keep playing what you know because it's all you'll ever want.

I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to anyone bewildered how Mario Susnhine and 3D world scored anywhere above a 90.

3D Land made such an amazing use of the 3D effect. Absolutely incredible game

>>712926905
So you're talking to, what, salty Europeans still operating under the delusion that anyone ought to give a shit about Croc? Nintendo's only gone off the cliff in the last few years, there's nothing baffling about fucking Mario Sunshine being labeled good you lunatic.

test post please ignore

>>712925848 (OP)
Fuck Fujibayashi
Fuck Aonuma
Fuck Myiamoto
NIGGERS CANT FUCK WITH BASED KOIZUMI

>>712927267
>nothing baffling about fucking Mario Sunshine being labeled good you
There is considering the quality of the game. Anybody who's played it can tell you its repetitive structure, awkward coin layouts that vary per shine, half baked movement mechanics, over-sized and terribly designed levels, god awful gimmicks, incredible amount of bugs, terrible yoshi implementation and the utter joke that is blue coins. The list goes on with how awful the game is.

You also forgot to defend Mario 3D World which is a pathetically slow game.

>mogs every Playstation platformer

>this is the greatest mario game of all time

>>712927721

I dream with him coming back to Zelda games. He wrote Alttp, LA, Oot and basically was the mastermind behind MM and was still loosely involved in wind waker.

He just has a grasp on whimsical atmosphere that suited the series like a glove. After Wind waker I don't think they managed to capture that essence. BotW came close during gameplay but the plot and writing were still far behind.

In any case he's stuck with mario forever because obviously miyamoto and everybody in nintendo knows he's the best dev around, so he's got to manage their best franchise.

>>712925848 (OP)
SOVL

>>712928086
Mario sunshine... Home...

>>712926905
>Nintendo games are for Nintendo gamers

Where were those nintendo gamers during the gamecube era? And the wiiU era?

Give me a break.

>>712925848 (OP)
Some of these scores are overrated, particular sunshine (objectively worse than 64) and odyssey (only rated highly cause it was the first open-level mario in 15 years), but the games have always been full of polish charm and soul, which, it turns out, is quite important

>>712925848 (OP)
>3D world
god tier
>3D land
ass
>galaxy
ass
>majora
bretty gud, barely a zelda game
>odyssey
very meh, shouldve been a banjo kazooie game
>sunshine
ass
>galaxy 2
\even worse then the original

>>712929000
The typical dogmilk quality they've come to know and love.

>>712929416
how come that dogmilk was indeed bad during GC and WIIU era but it became so atractive during the switch?

>>712930105
Did it? I found them shit and underwhelming.

>>712926495
Nintendo bias existed then, and now you have youtubers and ecelebs rewriting history so Nintendo was always the only thing that existed

>>712930318
You grew up in a shithole where people didn't play the relevant console. It's okay. You don't have to try and make it something to be proud of.

>>712930152

Sucks for you i guess. Most people seemed to turn around and enjoy it.

>>712930613
Seems like an AI reply, popularity is irrelevant to quality.

And out of all those games, Miyamoto hates Rosalina btw.

>>712930667
He's asking why the GameCube and Wii U failed while the Wii and Switch succeeded. If they're in total shit getting the same Nintendo bonus, surely they should all succeed about the same amount, no?

>>712930667
I agree. Your opinion is not more relevant though.

>>712930826
Not necessarily. Seems like an obtuse over-simplification and even the most loaded of question askers can tell that. He's also a big boy, let him speak for himself.

>>712930105
>>712930826
It was never bad like that one guy is saying. It hasn't necessarily gotten better with the switch, but the other games around it have gotten worse. The rest of the gaming industry have become increasingly homogenized, monetary-incentivized, trend-chasing, etc, while nintendo has just continued to do their own thing. Their reputation and IPs continue to hold up while others have fallen. It's also why indie games have started to see more prominence

>>712930993
>Seems like an obtuse over-simplification
it's a direct restatement of the question

>>712931027
>It hasn't necessarily gotten better with the switch

What did become better was the differentiating factor that supports their console. WII was insanely successful, but the power gap was a bit too great and it was too casual oriented marketing wise. The wiiU was a meh idea in a still underpowered console that was marketed horribly, so even if it had some good games, people ignored it.

The switch however was a great idea that the competition didn't offer, simple as. And once people was on board with it, then they could access an actually decent catalogue of exclusives and kinds of games that the competition never had to begin with. There's no Zelda or Mario Kart on the competition, and the power gap is less noticeable than ever.

Now playstation, xbox and PC sort of dissolve into a an uniform custard while nintendo is still nintendo, on a platform that doesn't look retarded, and which is starting to get most games the competition is also getting.

>>712930993
No, that's literally my point. I don't know however else should you have interpreted it.

If it's always been slop carried by the nintendo bonus, why wasn't the bonus saving their ass during those years? Isn't it reasonable to think they did something right with the switch, if people now buys it and the nintendo games with it too?

>>712931694
>even if it had some good games
It did not have good games.

>>712931840
This >>712931027 mostly addresses it.

>>712925848 (OP)
Lock him in a closet and make sure he never develops a game again.

>>712931914
No, it did. Splatoon is good fun.

>>712931914
>It did not have good games.

Xenoblade X is great.

>>712933002
By the end of the gen, i ended up with only 6 wii u games, and 2 of them are Xenoblade X lmao (the standard and the collectors edition)

>>712927721
Keep seething

>>712927267
> Nintendo's only gone off the cliff in the last few years
Nintendo has gotten better now though, after the dark era of late Wii and Wii U games.

>>712929394
what the hell
>unjustifiable Galaxy hate
>loves 3D World, loathes 3D Land

>>712928787
isn't he making the new DK?

>>712927721
Toru Osawa and Yoichi Yamada are literally the main directors of Ocarina of Time. Aonuma did the dungeons and Koizumi did the fucking camera and cutscenes. STOP REWRITING HISTORY

>>712926495
>>712926905
you lost and got raped 30 years ago. let if go segay

>>712927267
>Nintendo's only gone off the cliff in the last few years
Yeah, in the last 30 years.

>>712926910
3D Land is a great game but also incredibly forgetable. I genuinelly barelly remember anything in that game unlike every other 3D mario

>>712928476
No sunshine lover says It's the best mario game we just like it the best ok?

>>712928086
>>712928476
it has to be the best for PlayStation players as they have literally copied this.

>>712932760
>Splatoon is good fun
Had Splatoon been released on anything else it would be considered an embarrassingly unfinished game with horrible multiplayer steep in lag issues, lack of player options for match making and the embodiment of missed potential in the single player.

It only succeeded because the audience (nintendo fans) didn't know better.

>>712935903
No, the netcode all worked and the design is enjoyable. You're seething over what you don't play.

>>712934656
Fuck you nigger. Koizumi is one of the producers of the game and he designed Oot Link

>>712936207
>netcode all worked
You must have skipped the first one.

>>712936953
Koizumi did the models in game, the art of Link you've grown to love in your image was made by Yusuke Nakano.

>>712930318
>rewriting history so Nintendo was always the only thing that existed
I love Nintendo, but i hate that this is true. Other games and consoles existed back then, and they were also great

>>712930526
Shut up brand zombie

>>712937148
No, that's the one I have the strongest memory of. 2 sort of improved the netcode but with infinitely more players it was laggier, 3 is outright worse.