The most overrated game ever.

>pclard kvetching
it's ok anon, souls is a console series, you can purchase a ps5 at the nearest gamestop
get the pro if you are not poor

DaS>DeS>>>>>>>Sekiro>ER>DaS3=BB=DaS2

>>712946951
its on PC, dumbass

>>712946992
Shit opinion
Bb is the best thing they ever made and its not even fucking close

>>712947030
pc has no games tho

>>712946735 (OP)
DS1>=BB>>DeS>DS3>=ER>DS2

>>712947079
Everything after Dark Souls 1 fell off since they were sniffing their own farts and copied the same shit over and over again.

>>712947143
Gold
>>712946992
Mold

DS1=BB=ER>Sekiro>DS3>DeS>>>DS2

BB was realyl good, even with some of the shadps4 jank.

>>712947143
I would put more ">" after BB. DS1 and BB are great. The rest is either mediocre or shit.

Mid 2010s From was pathetic and sloppy. If any other company released something like this then they would be punished for it since it ran like shit.

>>712946735 (OP)
10+ years of seething
feels good to be king

reminder pcniggers dont deserve bloodborne

it's only overrated because PC keks turned into their biggest crusade for the past 10 years

Lies of P made this slop garbage irrelevant.

>>712946735 (OP)
>S Tier
DS1 (until Ornstein)
>A Tier
DS1 and BB
>B Tier
DeS and Sekiro
>C Tier
DS3
>D Tier
ER
>E Tier
DS2

>>712947561
Fucking embarrassing. It's funny that /v/ still pretends their taste is not only superior, but that they also know what the masses like kek

Nioh 2>Nioh>Lies of P>DaS1>Sekiro>DaS3>BB>DaS2=ER

>>712946735 (OP)
Simply wrong. It is perfectly rated, as time goes on that proves true.
>>712946951
It’s on PC now, shadPS4 stable release 9 is stable enough to play the entire game on a Steam Deck of all things. Now it’s just a waiting game for a server to be set up like DeS emulation servers to get the online portions of the game, though custom chalice dungeons can already be injected as of now (and you don’t have to pay for PS+, wowie)

>>712946735 (OP)
DaS is better, but BB is better than the rest.

>>712947849
>It’s on PC now
the only thing that's on PC now is picrel
>stable enough
holy kek, pclard gaming experience (xhe paid $3k for xher cuckbox to play a 15 year old game that's running as """stable enough"""") lmao
>can already be injected
the only thing that you are injecting pclard is the estrogen from all the goyslop that you consume

>>712948003
k,b,c

>>712948003
most based post of today

>>712947692
shit list not a single contrarian pick

I had more fun in Nightreign then Bloodborne. I couldn't get into the terrible performance and clunky half assed combat. DS2 ran infinitely better and the lore wasn't half as boring.

>>712946735 (OP)
that's not ocarina of time

>>712948003
TRVTH NVKE

is 30fps as bad as it sounds? how to snoycucks live with it?

>>712948158
Uh oh. You better watch it, the elder tendies won't like this.

>>712946735 (OP)
Just admit it, OP. Your pc can't run shadps4 and you're seething kek

>>712948101
...am a tranny btw

>>712946951
I played it when I borrowed my sisters PS4 that she got to play dog shit like The Last of Us.

It was a pretty good game but after DaS III and Elden Ring it wasn't this god tier thing.
I think I can understand the feeling of going from DaS, suffering DaS II disappointment and then playing BB, the sheer quality of the experience is immense.
But after all the other From Games?
It's clearly not this perfect thing and I had plenty of gripes with it. I feel like snoys have been trying to bog down every From release after it to try and keep the idea that Sony still has "The best From Soft game".

>>712948003
BASED

>>712948321
>zoomer who had to play his sister's PS4
lmao

>>712948003
>>712948068
>>712948086
>>712948173
This is incorrect. You are wrong.

>>712948440
On opposite day.

>>712948424
>Had to
Even if I was a multi-billionaire, no one can justify purchasing a PS4 for one game.

>>712946992
DeS=BB>DaS>>ER>>>>>>>>>DaS2=DaS3

>>712948321
anon it's consistently ranked as one of the best games in the series regardless of the device on which you experienced it
everyone who wanted to play it had like a decade to experience it, obviously if you play ER first you might enjoy it less
you don't have to pick one game to obsess about, I personally like all of them, it's mostly personal prefernce of combat and aesthetic and environments and bloodborne stands out in that department

>>712948321
I hate this childish console label shit, as I've played on pretty much all main platforms, but I guess I would be a ""snoy"" nowadays. I think BB is good, but I liked DS1 and DS3 way better. I did not like ER, even if I beat it (Malenia as well, yes)

I don't get why troons overhyped it that yer. It was painfully average game and forgettable. Fromsoft my not put out the best stuff but I know it was another step down from 1 after playing 2. Complete astroturfing campaign from snoy shills.

>>712948481
OH SHIT

>>712947832
I just bought Nioh 2 this weekend, Holy shit, that game is too damn fun.

Switchglave unga bunga is absolutely amazing.

>>712948596
Almost, change ER with DaS3 and we are good.

>>712948575
>missing the point
grim
did your parents give your sister a "real" console and you a nintendo "console" because you were already exhibiting signs of autism

>>712947030
>he counts emulation
LMAO

>>712948713
>IESLB
VAMOOSE, TENDIE.

>>712948321
>thinks DaS3 is better than Bloodborne
Just admit your idea of quality is being pandered to.

It's a 6/10 at best but was dragged down by terrible lore and bosses. It's not fun to replay either. Even DaS2 for ll its faults felt more engaging.

>>712948661
My theory for this is Bloodborne is by far the easiest souls game of them all and /v/ is super bad at video games, so of the minority of players who played all the games they liked it the most because nothing really walled them hard.

Aesthetic is a fair argument too, you can't really say "you're wrong for thinking Victorian werewolf hunter is cooler than dark fantasy" but that's a totally preferential thing.

>>712948912
NTA, but I enjoyed DS3 more. I do think BB is probably the better game, but I prefer medieval themes.

>>712948984
>My theory for this is Bloodborne is by far the easiest souls game of them all and /v/ is super bad at video games
didn't play the game award
didn't play the dlc award

I got some issues with BB like the weird fast feel of the character, some truly shitty bosses, but if anything I thought it was too easy and too short, with limited replay value compared to Dark Souls and Elden Ring.

>>712946735 (OP)
Why?

>>712948828
You missed the point brown man. I refused to buy a PS4 for bloodborne and circumstances allowed me to play it over a loner for free.

>>712948984
ER is by far the easiest game in the series. The fuck are you on about?

>>712948984
NTA but BB has the hardest starting area of any of the souls games. We had some emulatorfag post a thread about how he got aboslutely filtered a while ago kek

>>712949035
DS3 is just bloodborne with shields and no guns
Liking one over the other is almost meaningless, they are too similar for the preference to matter

>>712949131
nah DeS is by far the easiest

Nobody would care about Bloodborne if it was multiplat.

>>712947143
ER is better than all the previous ones, it's obvious to anyone who's not a 4chin contrariant retard. Bloodborne is mid.

>>712949249
Actually forgot about that game.

>>712949158
>NTA but BB has the hardest starting area of any of the souls games

demon souls?
BB is the only souls game ive done up to NG+7 because its so short

>>712949289
>ER is better tha-ACK
Done.

>>712949289
... and I'm a deranged tranny BTW

Worst Fromsoft game and I'm pretty generous with them. It offered no challenge nor interest to keep me going unlike Demon's or Souls games do. Easy return for me.

>>712948481
>>712948738
It’s not Wednesday yet so you are still wrong. Bloodborne is a perfectly rated game.

>>712949417
>Demons Souls?
What about it? It isn't particular hard unless you pick a portal that makes it.
>>712949512
Too ashemed to admit you got filtered by father gascoigne?

>>712948912
I think DaS III is marginally better because it has less failed concepts and better designed fights overall.
Unlike the common meme images, I do not think its map design is a massive step above DaS III. It uses less bonfires in favor of shortcuts but the layout is only slightly less linear.
>>712949036
Nah, the only boss I struggled on was probably Abhorrent Beast in the Chalice dungeons, maybe blood letting.

I did job to Lagarius until I figured out his bullet shield isn't perfect and he can be easily parried.
The game is trivialized by the ranged parry system that is practically forced on every build except for the brave people who'd equip the tin cans or the DLC knuckles.

Everything is essentially Gwyn until the DLC, which speaking of which only Orphan gave me any trouble and he's no Midir, Gael or Friede.

>>712949131
Any souls game can be "trivialized" by the right build, but Bloodborne has the trivialization built into every build through the parry system.

When people say BB is fast but still has a half-baked awareness of its speed with many fights they're right. Shit like Celestial Emissary were fodder.

>>712949158
This is true, but only if you avoid cleric beast out of fear and fail to get the insight needed to level up.

DaS III on the other hand, has Idux Gundyr, hardest intro boss of all time.

>>712949036
This has consistently been the case for BB haters. They just haven’t actually played the game.

>>712949512
>unlike Demon's or Souls games do
>Demon's
>or Souls
>DeS is not Souls
KWAB

>>712949781
>Any souls game can be "trivialized" by the right build
Mimic Tear is not build dependent.

>>712946735 (OP)
my order of play went like this
dark souls 3 (it was alright)
elden ring (good game for 1 play through)
demons souls remake (shallow, terrible boring game, didnt finish)
bloodborne (garbage game and ugly too)
i quite literally dont understand the fasciniation, the gameplay and dodging is just not good and the area is complete garbage and boring. i think i quit when i got killed by 2 werewolves somewhere near a bridge

Can we admit that Dark Souls 2 and 3 and Bloodborne were From's worst hits? ER was just mid but not as bad as the worst trio.

10 years of snoys hyping it up as fromsoft's masterpiece + years of playing all the other souls games and souls clones all recycling the same design elements + years of fromsoft power creep (bosses getting harder, players getting better) = it could only lead to disappointment

there's nothing in bloodborne that's so fundamentally unique
it's too action-focused to be a cool adventure game like ds1
it's too linear in the second half to recapture the feeling of ds1 exploration
it's too action-focused but sekiro outdid it in this regard
it's too easy after having played er, etc so it doesn't even have challenge appeal
ds3 is basically bloodborne 2 so the dark gothic aesthetic doesn't feel unique
the lovecraftian twist had been spoiled for years
even lies of p improved on the formula
demon's souls is so easy but still stands out because it's more unique than the others
same with ds2 still having its own b team jank distinctive aura and unique gimmicks
bb is just ds3 with a slightly different skin
finally playing bloodborne just felt like "yea it's good but also whatever, it's like i already played it before"

>>712950006
>i think i quit when i got killed by 2 werewolves somewhere near a bridge
Ah yes, around the start of the game lmao

>>712950019
This, but only DS2. Dark Souls 3 is DeS2 kino, ER is DeS3 kino, and BB is DeS spinoff kino.

>>712946735 (OP)
nope
that would be the witcher and or the last of us
bloodborne is overrated though

Lies of P and Elden Ring made me realized how shallow and boring Bloodborne really was. DS1 remains to be the king of Fromsoft souls and BB is just competing in the bottom with DS2 and 3.

>>712949906
Ashes are single player summons but with mob effects. Anyone who goes "lol they're not players so I didn't summon" is retarded.

Everyone since DeS has said if you summon you didn't beat the game. If there is any persistent criticism of souls games that rings true for all, it's the fact that they STILL haven't figured out how to make bosses a threat to multiple people.

A single second to get a full cast on a spell, or enough stamina to whale on a boss from behind with fully charged R2s is game changing in every souls game.

>>712950342
Witcher and TLOU were fun something Bloodborne lacks.

>>712949781
>DaS III on the other hand, has Idux Gundyr, hardest intro boss of all time
lmao WHAT
Margit is about 10x harder than that homo

>>712950374
>Lies of P(oop)
Lmao come on man, the game fucking sucks. Dull levels that get exponentially worse as the game progresses (Souls games have that late game area falloff but Alchemists Tower is such a drag) 2-3 bosses worth talking about, low weapon variety (no, putting a different blade on the same handle is not a new weapon) robo hand gimmick aping the Sekiro prosthetic arm stuff but most of them are pointless or completely busted (shield arm), enemy designs are cool

>>712950597
Soldier of Godrick is the tutorial boss of ER. He’s just a guy.
>no uhh the first area boss!
He is the boss of the first area, the Cave of Beginnings.

The most tranny reddit game if I see one.

>>712950006
>i think i quit when i got killed by 2 werewolves somewhere near a bridge
Your opinion is worthless lmfaoo

>DaS III on the other hand, has Idux Gundyr, hardest intro boss of all time
Hello.

>>712946735 (OP)
pic unrelated
zelda is

thats not all of final fantasy, OP

>>712951378
That’s not an intro boss, silly.

Sekrio was the most fun

>hurr muh bloodborne, durr bloodborne 2 when??

>>712948775
DaS3 is so bad that it almost feels like a joke.
2 and 3 fags always fight about what game is better, probably because they know deep inside that they're both terrible.

>>712950070
I will say the one thing BB did do the best compared to other souls is having unique models.
I don't know if it was because of japan studios and if there was something about asset ownership but everything used in BB is original and nothing aside from scrapped assets have been re-used in later souls games.

From took out the time to make fresh models for rats, slimes are arguably hollows (Pthumarians). The rats move differently, the slimes have different attacks. They serve the same exact roles as DaS though, with slimes doing their ceiling fall and rats leaping at you.
Yet, they are a unique model. DaS III and Elden Ring use the DaS rats and slimes exactly as they are in those games with updated textures.

It's a real mystery when you think about it.

>>712948984
No it's not, dlc bosses are a pain and a slog because how difficult they are. Not to mention some chalice dungeons.
Probably the only hardest game is sekiro

>>712950597
Margit is Taurus Demon, not Asylum Demon.
Idux Gundyr is Asylum demon.

>>712952295
Art direction is another big one. You literally cannot tell from what dark souls/er game a screenshot is, every game looks the same.

>>712952332
Ludwig is fair, mildly challenging, fun, but any boss I defeat my third try I can't call hard. I jobbed more to 3fats in the chalice dungeon than him.

Maria again, was only slightly harder than Abyss Watchers.

Only Orphan put up a true fight. The actual hardest thing in the game is probably 2sharks.
Ironic, consider shark men have all the hallmarks of delayed telegraphs that people ream Elden Ring for having.

>>712946992
DS1 > Sekiro > Old Hunters = Ringed City > ER > DS2 > BB = DS3 > DeS

>>712946735 (OP)
I'm real curious about that one, but gave away my ps4 to my sister so I have to wait until I have a pc that can emulate it

>>712952478
Bloodborne is "city but blue filter" to DaS III's "City but grey/piss filter"

I like the Victoria shit and it's fair that people can praise it for being souls but not knightly, but that's on par with From Soft deciding they want to make souls by cyberpunk next.
Like you'd have people saying "That's the best, because I like robots" or something.
I think overall though Yharnam is a bit samey. A city is a city and it's good that they kept it consistent, but somehow that's less memorable than Lordran.

My favorite zone appearance wise is Nightmare Frontier, because it's a love note to lovecraft dream scapes.

>>712952478
art direction sucks balls in these games. BB looked worse by performance issues alone.

>>712952608
>>712946992
>>712947143
Good old /v/, can't even begin to try and pick apart DaS.
Is it even possible to surgically remove /v/'s head from Matt Matosis's ass at this point?

>>712952478
You had to have sleptwalk through or never played Souls games if you can’t tell what game any given screenshot is from.

>>712954571
Who?

>>712954774
Cares. I beat you hahaha

>>712946735 (OP)
That's not Sekiro

>>712946735 (OP)
dun dun dun
DU DU DUNNNNNNNNNNN
DU DU DUN DU DU DUN
DU DU DU
DU DU DUNNNN
DU DU
DU
DU DU DUNNN

>>712955878
Ludwig's theme is alright second phase, but man did BB actually have a nothing burger sound track.
Really, the only true banger is Cleric Beast. Laurence is just a remix of it that emphasis fake latin vocals more, but I don't quite think it's better.

>>712948101
A Bloodborne themed game in the style of Nightreign would be amazing

>>712956104
Ewww no. Both games sucked.

>>712956031
I have never seen such insanely shit taste.
Gascoigne, Blood Starved Beast, Gherman's. There's so many great tracks.

>>712956031
The Latin lyrics in Lawrence’s theme directly tie into the story of the game doe… and First Hunter theme is good doe…

DS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ER>BB>>DS2>>>>>>DS3

>>712949131


ER is the easiest game to CHEESE but if you don't know what you're doing its also really difficult.

Why is 0.51 still the only shadps4 version that doens't run like shit? How do they make it actually worse

>>712946735 (OP)
im a faggot fromslopper been playing their games for decades, kings field, armored core and all the souls shit, i tried bloodborne and im gonna be totally honest, its boring as shit, i dont understand the super hype for it over the years, game is shit.

>>712946735 (OP)
Honestly I kind of agree. I just started playing through the emulated version and I'm not liking the combat. It feels both clunky and fast. You're moving awkwardly at very high speeds. I'd rather play the charming clunkiness of the souls series, or the geniune speed of other games, like Nioh. The pistol is such a generous parry it's kind of absurd, I imagine it won't be that useful throughout the game, but still.

>>712957173


People shit on Lies of Pi but it basically did everything Bloodborne did but improved on it and modernized it.

>>712948158
this

>>712956104
Duskbloods nigga

>>712948003
>Team Sneed
>Formerly Team Chuck

>>712957173
BS2 > BB

>>712946735 (OP)
Hey Google, how to run Bloodborne on emulator

It's shit even by modern game standards.

>>712957384
Unfortunately it doesn't look THAT Bloodborne-esque, looks to span a couple time periods and is more steampunk than Victorian
We'll just have to wait and see though

worst Souls game by a country mile
>30fps with massive input lag is totally unacceptable in a fast-paced action RPG
>huge lack of item variety
>huge lack of build variety
>no shields and a complete lack of armor and weapon variety
>huge lack of magic/pyro/sorc/miracle variety
>lack of environmental variety. Way too many dark, dank, gothic labyrinths
>PvP is practically nonexistent
>items go up in price way too fast and way too high. Killing a boss midgame gives you enough blood echoes for a measly 2 (TWO) sedatives
>can't activate lamps as a checkpoint or use it to respawn enemies
>have to fast travel twice instead of just being able to fast travel directly from lamp to lamp
>a lot of shortcuts still require 2-3+ minutes of continuous sprinting to get to the boss
>some cheap and just overall annoying mechanics (frenzy ohkoes you unless you have 30+ vit and full health, and even with tons of frenzy res, you have to spam sedatives)
>a lot of bosses are just too weak and underwhelming
>sometimes killing a boss (amelia, BSB, etc.) arbitrarily opens a door halfway across the world with absolutely no indication that a pathway was opened at all, let alone where
>multiple enemies are reused multiple times with just higher HP pools. Overall lack of enemy variety as well
>chromatic aberration
>chalice dungeons are repetitive and uninspired
>whole game has serious balance issues that I never had with Souls. Some grunt enemies do arbitrarily high amounts of damage, while big, slow guys in the same area do less than the smaller grunt enemies. Tough enemies drop few blood echoes, while easy enemies drop loads. Seems to be bizarro balancing all across the game and especially in chalice dungeons

>>712946992
based
>>712947079
tranny

BB is fine but it's got a lot of shit that fanboys just ignore as problems. Like the entire game being dodge, attack, dodge, attack over and over when even DS offered shields and poise as other defensive options to the player. Or the absolutely awful blood vial and silver bullet system, imagine a game telling you that you can only parry 20 times until you can't use it anymore until rest. And don't even fucking talk about Laurence, the First Vicar

So is the entire point of this board just to see who can post the most contrarian, dogshit take?

Shit game just like Shart Souls 2.

>>712957959
blood bullets

Only troons like this game. No sane person likes it irl.

>>712957959
>Or the absolutely awful blood vial and silver bullet system
>What is resource management?

>And don't even fucking talk about Laurence, the First Vicar
The fuck problem people have with this boss? It's pretty fucking straightforward.

>>712957959
>Complaining about bullets and vials
I'm glad the system is there, it's such an easy litmus test for who sucks dick at video games.

>>712946735 (OP)
Yep, finally played it after 10 years and it's quite mediocre compared to the rest of the souls games.
Only thing it has going for it is the setting/design - which is amazing in concept, but often annoying in practice.

I'm glad this piece of shit is forgotten s Lies of P takes its place. Shows how disposable Fromsoft relly is with it's terrible practices.

>>712958789
Are you really going to say a reskinned cleric beast that just starts shitting lava in its second phase is a good hidden boss for the dlc?

>>712958980
It's amazing how Neowiz made Fromsoft games look like chink cheap copy with one try.

>>712956205
No, none of those are memorable at all.
Meanwhile I have
>Du-na na na na, du-na na na na, Du-na na na NA NA NA NA NA NA.
Burned into my memory. Cleric/Laurence is the ONLY good theme in BB.

>>712959538
bad opinion

>>712958789
They don't understand that in phase 3 you just walk to the left towards his lil'hand in a circle as his big hand is the actual threat.

>>712958992
Yes
What's bad about it

100% correct. It's the weakest Fromsoft entry so far. It is a step down from Dark Souls 2.

>>712959904
Nobody has this opinion.

>>712959679
I listened to every souls sound track recently.
These are the ONLY good songs in each

DaS
>Firelink Shrine
>Character Select
>Gwyn's Theme
>Ash Lake
>Taurus Demon(not even that great, but it's memorable)
>Seath (Dun na na nu nu nu nununuh)
>Pale Lady

DaS II
>Sinh the Slumbering Dragon
>Sir Allonne
>Ruins Sentinels

BB
>Cleric Beast/Laurence
>Ludwig Part II

Dark Souls III
>Dragonslayer Armour
>Darkeater Midir
>Slaveknight Gael

Elden Ring
>Godskin Nobles

BB is some kind of weird midwit attractor. It was fucking mid with borderline bad music

>>712957721
Its very fitting this is the kind of dogshit opinion that a BB hater has.

This is the ONLY place ive ever seen BB disparaged. I dont knowif its ER secondaries and PC butt blasted 10 years later about exclusivity, but BB is easily Froms magnum opus. ER is busywork bloat.

>>712961190
Every criticism he has of it is pretty legit. Not allowing the player to use the lanterns to reset without needing to return to the Hunter's dream was indeed retarded.

>>712961183
Yeah nigga, unlike niche ER and Dark Souls, BB is simply too mainstream and generic. This is why From reused its setting for 5 games now.

Best setting, best combat, best lore, best atmosphere, best music.

What the FVCK am I suppose to do after killing the cleric beast?

>>712946735 (OP)
Nobody actually knows how the game plays like because no one owns a PS5, so wild crazy ideals get twisted into one big super game fantasy.

>>712946735 (OP)
But enough about any souls game after DeS and DaS

>>712961574
Half of them are retarded (durr build variety) and that's probably the most minor inconvenience that's genuinely difficult to care about

>>712961656
Find the cathedral ward and fight shop man.

>>712961632
all three of those games have the same faults but at least the others have more content
BB is down there with DS2

>>712946735 (OP)
Ok if it's so overrated let's put it on other consoles because obviously it doesn't deserve the exclusivity haha

>>712961735
It's build variety is less though.
Yeah, you can argue the Trick weapons are extremely polished in most cases with almost none feeling redundant or shit, but at the same time, they pretty much took weapon ascension/infusions and turned them into diablo gemmies, which kind of sucked.

>>712961712
the people who did play it didn't do enough to be honest about it, because trolling and shitpositng was too fun I guess.

It wasn't worth the Shazam tranny shit today though.

>>712949131
ER is by far the hardest fromsoft game if you don't use retarded shit that trivializes the game. thanks for exposing yourself though mimic tear user

>>712961712
It's on PC now.

fucking love this game

>>712961748
>shop man
You mean Father Gascoigne? I thought that was an optinal boss.

>>712948321
BB dunks on ER any day, aesthetic cohesion and genuinely fun gameplay loop are way more important than graphics, superficial polish and pointless mechanics/feature bloat.

the holy trinity of souls games is DS1, BB, and DS3
those are the only ones you need

>>712950730
Also Lies of P came out 8 years after Bloodborne. These niggers are talking about the game like it was a recent release ofc a game that comes out almost a decade after and is also practically a copy of BB is going to improve on some things. Nothing will ever touch BB's narrative and 30fps complainers are just showing they didn't play the game when it came out. In 2015 more than half of console games ran at 30fps.

>>712960542
I can't help but hear trololo when I fight Seath which fits perfectly when you're running in circles trying to cut his tail

>>712962218
>Muh gameplay loop
You retards cut out the chalice grind to try and proclaim it superior but then berate ER players for doing the same. Fuck off.

>>712947143
BB>Sekiro>DS2>DS1>ER=DS3

>>712946735 (OP)
How well does it emulate now?

>>712961982
Retard opinion. Hurr durr it's not actually playing the game unless you play exactly how I play it! Nah if things that trivialize the game are in the game, then those things are a part of the game. Meaning the game is easy. You cannot set up arbitrary rules you think everyone must follow in order to call a game difficult. That's asinine and idiotic.

>>712960542
how the hell don't you like o&s

>>712962245
There's no narrative in Bloodborne and companies should do better at running their games higher than the bare minimum when the cap is much higher.

>>712962437
It's alright but I feel it was upstaged by Ruin's sentinels.
O&S is an iconic fight and I think that exaggerates how good the theme is.

>>712962235
ER is just a better ds3

>>712962314
ER dungeons lack tension and the combat just isn’t satisfying. Attacks don’t feel like they connect and criticals are equally unsatisfying

>>712962423
nigger i don't give a fuck how you play faggot, summoning trivializes every souls game, just don't go online talking about how easy it is when you did some shit that makes the game retardedly easy. that goes for any fromsoft game

>>712961574
>Not allowing the player to use the lanterns to reset without needing to return to the Hunter's dream was indeed retarded.
Retarded non issue. You never need to reset as the game drops healing items.

In fact let me expose this retarded midwittery wholeheartedly:

>30fps with massive input lag is totally unacceptable in a fast-paced action RPG
Hardware limitation and its solved by emulation. There is no massive input lag.

>huge lack of item variety
"I cant think of a criticism so ill just say random shit"

>huge lack of build variety
Its an action game that focuses on unique weapons whoch are all viable and fun to use. Trick weapons are objectively better than anything from has ever done. Mechanically and artistically. Also build variety is a meme in souls games.

>no shields and a complete lack of armor and weapon variety
"its not dark souls" isnt a criticism. Bloodborne has the most weapon variety in all souls games.

>huge lack of magic/pyro/sorc/miracle variety
"Its not Dark souls" again.

>lack of environmental variety. Way too many dark, dank, gothic labyrinths
Retarded criticism that wants theme park design. Theres enough variety and its the most immersive setting in all of froms games.

>PvP is practically nonexistent
Its there and people still play it, so this is just a lie.

>items go up in price way too fast and way too high. Killing a boss midgame gives you enough blood echoes for a measly 2 (TWO) sedatives
non issue. Items are plentiful and everything can be dealt with combat.

>have to fast travel twice instead of just being able to fast travel directly from lamp to lamp
Ok. This takes at most a minute though. BB doesnt really make you jump through areas to progress, though.

>>712962552
not with all that copy pasted fluff and retarded boss design it isn't

>>712962567
>ER dungeons lack tension
Meme take, ER dungeons use the same tile sets but ultimately come off as more creative in many cases.
What you probably mean in Chalice Dungeons sometimes have very frustrating high stakes situations like some of the later ones where they throw those nigger hell hounds at you.

Point is, they're both filler content that are beneficial to explore but are not really worth it after experiencing it once.

You can't just trash Elden Ring for having filler content just because BB's has it placed to the side with an access menu.

>>712962570
I wasn't the person you were originally replying too, I just saw your faggot opinion and called you out on it. You are wrong. If it's in the game, it's part of the game. There isn't anything to the same degree as summons in the other ones, so therefore they are harder games :). Your autism is showing you can't enforce your self imposed arbitrary rules on everyone else my friend.

>>712960542
Eh, autistic shit taste. Sir Alonne and Sinh both suck, that you didn’t include Fume Knight, Firekeepers or Shrine of Amana only confirms you’re a fraud. Also actually play Bloodborne and you’ll see it has the best ost in a Souls game without contest

>>712962697
you can literally summon a friend for every boss in every souls game and just get carried through the entire game. why impose arbitrary restrictions on yourself and not use mechanics that are in the game? seems pretty retarded to me anon
>I wasn't the person you were originally replying too
nigger did i ask? i don't give a fuck who you are

>>712962694
I never trashed ER for having filler dungeons. The open world sucks though. Problem is level design by and large fals off after Liurnia, that includes legacy dungeons as well. Leyndell was a disappointing snoozefest

Add this to the boring combat it just isn’t as enjoyable to play IMO

>>712962803
Yep and you can do that in ER too and also use mimic tear. And even more options to make it easier. Making it an easier game than the others because it has more options to make it easier. Pretty simple logic, you must be pretty retarded to not get this. If it's in the game, guess what? It's part of the game :)

>>712962915
nigga i don't give a fuck what you do, i won't summon because I'm not a faggot and I actually want to experience engaging and challenging gameplay in a souls game, not poke enemies in the back that don't have aggro on me. ER is the hardest souls game for the way I play, fuck what your experience was because it wasn't mine and that's what matters

>>712946735 (OP)
It is the third best game in the series.
ER number one Dark Souls 1 number two

>>712946951
>Dude get the ultra good golem model so you play it at that hard locked 30 FPS
Or just emulate it at 60 FPS like a non-retard

>>712962482
There's no narrative in Bloodborne if you're a drooling retard and/or skip through the dialogue like an ADHD spastic. And yeah I do agree with you but the game came out in 2015 as a console exclusive, and back then probably a good 70% of games on console ran at 30 fps. It's definitely not ideal but since I played the game when it first came out I didn't notice the 30fps at all because I didn't have many games that ran at higher framerates to compare it to. Yeah if you start out playing souls on PC and then backtrack to BB on ps4 it's going to feel clunky and laggy I agree there.

>>712963135
This is not an argument. Again, "nigga", you have to play under your self imposed rules for yourself in order to make it hard. We are not discussing your faggot restrictions. We are talking about if the game is hard or not. It is not. No one gives a fuck how you play the game and your masochistic tendencies. Also I never said I played with summons, but I don't expect you to have any sort of reading comprehension or nuance in your thinking because you're clearly a retarded angry faggot.

Everything after Dark Souls 1 are ADHD button mashing action games

>>712962639
>You never need to reset
Unless you reach a boss that filters you, Like in my case with Lagarius (when I thought he was immune to parry).
By god did I want to break something having to fist pig asses and deal with Ps4's slow loading screens just to recoup my blood/bullet losses.
>Hardware limitations! It can be fixed with mods
never a good sign
>Huge lack of item variety
BB is one of those games where for some mysterious reason the classic resistance items aren't there.
It has its poison and frenzy cures and few oddball items like beast pellets, bone ash and blue elixir many of those are few and far between.

>It's an action game
It's a souls game, it's an action rpg. They just chose to simply the weapon roster and use diabolo gems to justify the chalice dungeons.
>Better than everything from has ever done
They basically take 2 existing tried and true From weapon types and merge them together. In many cases the trick form of the weapon is just a glorified 2handed mode without the strength buff.

While I agree converting L2 into one more extra attack move for some trick modes was neat as well as giving players a smooth attack animation for switching modes, it's ultimately just a streamlining of existing mechanics. They reduce the weapons types to 1 or 2 reps and mish mash them. That's it.
Also, in many cases the method of separating the scaling of the modes was annoying, such as those people that just kep skill low to max out BT for Chikage

>No shields
There are shields, yeah I don't think the game needed them to be common, I agree not the best criticism.
>No magic
This I can somewhat agree. There weren't nearly enough Hunter Tools to make Arcane stand out with the same degree of identity that bloodtinge had.
>But what about muh paper!
Nobody does arcane paper builds.

>Lack of environment
Yharnam being consistent is both cool yet also boring. I feel like they could have tried much harder with Yahar'ghul.

>>712962639
>some cheap and just overall annoying mechanics (frenzy ohkoes you unless you have 30+ vit and full health, and even with tons of frenzy res, you have to spam sedatives)
>some
>lists one
Frenzy is a punishment for fucking up. Sedatives are a get out of jail free card. I can tell this retard is an absolute shitter because he keeps complaining about sedatives instead of just avoiding frenzy.

>a lot of shortcuts still require 2-3+ minutes of continuous sprinting to get to the boss
Maybe a minute. I also thought this game was easy or something. Why does the boss runbacks bother you is theyre so easy?

>a lot of bosses are just too weak and underwhelming
Not really. Theyre mostly challenging. You should know because you keep having to run back so much.

>>sometimes killing a boss (amelia, BSB, etc.) arbitrarily opens a door halfway across the world with absolutely no indication that a pathway was opened at all, let alone where
Get out of here? You're telling me that a from soft game doesnt give you objective markers? If i recall, youre talking about the church tower door that opens if you kill BSB. Which is right by the lantern and theres no way youd miss. Or maybe youre talking about the forbidden woods after amelia which at that point is the only place you can go.

Its fine if you get lost, generally exploration in BB leads you into new areas or upgrade materials. This vagueness is built into the game. Its kind of froms thing.

>>multiple enemies are reused multiple times with just higher HP pools. Overall lack of enemy variety as well
Every from game does this and theres plenty of enemy variety. Every area has enemies unique to them and they mix up enemy encounters a lot.

>chromatic aberration
Who cares, go get laid nerd.

>chalice dungeons are repetitive and uninspired
They are, but theyre hard too. And they have unique bosses. Theyre also completely optional.

>whole game has....
Shitter talk. No one but you even thought of this.

>>712962738
If while fighting a boss you didn't suddenly get sucked into the theme it's not a good theme.
Fume Knights is boring, I'm sorry. Cool boss, great boss, but kind of a dull theme.
Not as dull as Artorias. You want a boss theme that is the exact opposite of how cool the boss is he's an example.

>>712948834
better than native lol

>>712963497
>This is not an argument
it's not meant to be one
>you have to play under your self imposed rules for yourself in order to make it hard
the same "self imposed" rules I use for every souls game, which aren't actually hard at all. souls games are easy even with these "restrictions"
>No one gives a fuck how you play the game and your masochistic tendencies
and i'm telling you i don't give a fuck about how you play faggot. again it's not "masochistic" as elden ring isn't even that hard, even with these "self imposed restrictions" its still only just harder than the other games, which are again piss easy
>Also I never said I played with summons, but I don't expect you to have any sort of reading comprehension
actually it's the exact opposite, you're arguing against using self imposed restrictions and calling me a masochistic person for doing so. this would lead any reasonable person to believe that you do in fact use summons. in fact thinking the opposite would showcase a lack of reading comprehension, but I wouldn't expect you to be able to know that

>>712946992
BB btfos DS3, which is literally just a shittier BB.

>>712964062
whats better about it? bosses are definitely worse in BB, level design is about equal. BB just has a cooler aesthetic and maybe cooler weapons but shittier variety

>>712963889
Holy shit you are a drooling retard. If you're not trying to argue then don't reply. You are wrong and mad about it. No one gives a fuck about how you play. If you're not going to argue about the objective qualities of the game, then stfu. You made an objective statement originally saying that ER was the hardest souls game and I proved to you why it is not. You are conceding defeat, in fact you already have. I genuinely think you're too low IQ to understand how arguing over objective qualities works. "Muh game, muh playstyle". Holy fucking shit you're black aren't you.

>>712946992
>>712947143
Sekiro>BB>>>DaS>DeS>ER>>>DS2>>>DS3

>>712964062
They're the same level of shit quality so the rating isn't off.

>>712964209
>ignores literally every point in my reply and just goes on a schizo rant spewing insults
>complains that i'm the one not trying to argue
lol
lmao

>>712947143
this except DS3 isn't that high

>>712964157
The player character's speed, the weapon speed, movesets, etc. are all more balanced and enjoyable in BB. BB is about being fast and fighting fast creatures. DS3 is about being a slow rollfaggot while anime monsters spazz out, this game design philosophy was unfortunately carried into Elden Ring. Sekiro and Bloodborne stand out because they break the DS3/ER design formula of being a slow rollfaggot.

BB's differences from DS3 aren't just aesthetic. The gameplay flows because the Hunter is actually as fast as the foes he fights.

do you guys know how fucking stupid you sound when you say that Elden Ring, a universally acclaimed masterpiece, is the worst of the souls games

>>712964447
It's better than every Dark Souls game, imo

>>712963558
>Unless you reach a boss that filters you
But then youre not reseting youre just dying to the boss.

>never a good sign
This is simply retarded. Every from game on PS4 was 30fps. This isnt an issue unique to BB.

>BB is one of those games where for some mysterious reason the classic resistance items aren't there.
It has its poison and frenzy cures and few oddball items like beast pellets, bone ash and blue elixir many of those are few and far between.
Oh fuck off man. Who cares about the items. No one goes into these game excited to use items. Go be a pedantic faggot somewher else.

>It's a souls game, it's an action rpg.
Its vastly different combat wise from souls. Its far more action oriented than RPG.

>simply the weapon roster
Making like 30 weapon types isnt simplyfying.

>diabolo gems to justify the chalice dungeons.
Nah. The chalice dungeons are justified by offering different content like enemies and bosses.

>They basically take 2 existing tried and true From weapon types and merge them together.
Shut up you disingenuous cunt. Having a weapon that transforms at will is not the same as having 2 weapons and you know it. fuck off.

>In many cases the trick form of the weapon is just a glorified 2handed mode without the strength buff.
Theres ludwigs holy blade. Which is a fun weapon to use.

> it's ultimately just a streamlining of existing mechanics
No, its a completely different mechanic which completments the games action focus. Its not the same as using 2 different weapons, its using one weapon that is highly versatile and fun to use.

I feel like part of the retarded opinions regarding Bloodborne completely ignore how immaculate the presentation is. Only a complete fucking nerd would even think to equate trick weapon = 2 dark souls weapons as if it feels the same.

>such as those people that just kep skill low to max out BT for Chikage
Why is it annoying? Isnt that just one of the builds you so desperately want?

>>712964407
they're just different design philosophies anon, one isn't inherently better than the other
>>712964447
elden ring is only so acclaimed because they made the barrier to entry lower and added open world shit that normies foam at the mouth over

>>712964339
You aren't. That's not what an argument is. You have none. Stating how you play the game does nothing to prove the objective difficulty of the game, which is what we were discussing, and then when you realized you were proven wrong you tried to shift the goalpost and pretend we're arguing about whether your playstyle is legitimate or whatever. Dude, no one fucking cares about how you play the game, you are a nobody. Either try to make an objective argument about the game or stfu. You are so fucking stupid it's astounding. I think you know you're wrong too and that's why you can't make an objective argument, everything has to be subjective to how you play the game. Which again , is completely irrelevant. Now let's hear a good argument about why Elden Ring is the hardest souls game, I'm waiting :). And if you're still too black and retarded to realize this: the way you play the game is not actually a real argument.

>>712952478
kek you can tell when it's ds2 because of how terrible it looks

>>712964610
>Stating how you play the game does nothing to prove the objective difficulty of the game
so you are retarded. there is nothing objective about difficulty, it's probably the most subjective element of a video game. especially one where many different builds and weapons exist and every player gets a different experience
>no one fucking cares about how you play the game
...and i don't care how you play the game, i'll say it again for a third time. however, how i played the game is definitely gonna be relevant when we're discussing the difficulty of a video game with many different playstyles, you do realize that right anon?
>Either try to make an objective argument
like i said, difficulty is literally subjective, but it is a fact that the bosses of elden ring are harder to dodge and parry do to having a faster movement speed, fake out and delayed attacks, and more input reading. these are objective qualities that make the game harder
>b-b-but the way i played makes those factors irrelevant!
if you don't care how i play what the fuck makes you think i care how you play faggot

>>712964557
>Nerd Nerd NERD!
Anon, please. The Trick Weapons are two weapons merged together. It's like just carrying those two weapon and swaping them, except they including a useful weapon attack between shifting
>Isn't that a build thing you desperately want!
No it's more like a weird mechanic that turns your single weapon into functioning like 2 different weapons, essentially forcing your down a particular build to get the most bang for your buck.

For example, my last run I was a Chikage build, but did the right thing of blending Skill and BT so I could seamlessly deal decent damage in normal mode for times I needed to parry.

Then I got Bloodletter. To get Blood letter to work the same way, I had to basically level up my STR which fortunately had some boost on Chikage. Then I just ported over enough high end gems to make Bloodletter work, at the sacrifice of having it constantly damage and be prone to breaking.

If they had included a skill respec or better ways to manipulate a weapons scaling than dogshit gems I could actually test the cool weapons that drop.

I mean good luck doing a STR/BT build BEFORE getting bloodletter.

>>712964557
>I agree not the best criticism.
Its not a criticism at all. Its just bitching the game isnt dark souls. Most of the criticism against BB boils down to that.

>There weren't nearly enough Hunter Tools to make Arcane stand out with the same degree of identity that bloodtinge had.
Thankfully you have weapons that rely solely on arcane. You can even convert most weapons in the game to deal arcane damage, which you cant do with bloodtinge.

>Nobody does arcane paper builds.
I wasnt going to suggest that. I find these talk about buinds instead of enjoying the games tighter controls and combat just retarded.

Yeah from has done harder boss fights and what not, but BB is simply more fun to actually play. It controls tighter and the action feels more satisfying, as in hitting shit feels while weaving and zipping around feels more satisfying. I wish From would expand on it isntead of making DaS3 forever (whichis what ER is) , but thats simply where the money is.

>Yharnam being consistent is both cool yet also boring.
Its one or the other idiot. And the praise isnt for its consistency, its for its execution. Yharnam is simply an incredibly realized setting filled with wonder and mystery and atmosphere. Similar to how DasS felt. ER could have been that but since they opted for open world every area feels like a cynical bloated time sink. At least the formulaic chalice dungeons were side content, not the main appeal of the game. ER is formulaic and boring. It also mostly reiterates the same tired levels. Thers the lava level, the magic level, the castle level. How are you faggots not tired of this shit by now?

Yhahargul is really cool and grotesque looking.

>>712946735 (OP)
...is Dark Souls 1, the worst Souls game.

BB & DeS had no memorable bosses

>>712965287
What's with this idea that DaS III doesn't control as tight as BB?

>>712965360
most critiques of DS3 are fabricated, due to the game having very few flaws those who prefer other games have to invent things to complain about

>>712964934
Damn ok talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Sometimes I envy people like you, being that stupid must be blissful in a way. Well again, you're wrong and if that's the case that can be said about all souls games because they all have different builds you fucking moron. The thing that makes Elden the easiest is the fact that you have more OP options than ever to ever to deal with the challenges the game has. I really don't understand how you can see that and not realize that more options = more ways to win = easier game. It's like pretty simple 1st grade logic there buddy. And no, your self imposed rules say nothing about the objective difficulty of the game, and the fact that you think it does shows that you aren't capable of logical thinking or you just don't really know what those words mean. Objective qualities would be things like the fact that mimic tear is a usable item, or the bomb pots etc. Not your arbitrary rules of "I don't summon because I'm a god gamer". No. One. Fucking. Cares. What. You. Do. That is NOT an argument about the game whatsoever. The fact that things like mimic tear are IN THE CODE OF THE GAME means that it is objectively an easier game to beat. This really should not be hard to understand man. And again, NO. How you play is NOT relevant to the difficulty of the game. What if you had downs? Maybe you do actually. But if you were a retarded downie and you couldn't press the R2 button with your downie fingies, is that somehow relevant to the overall difficulty of the game? No, that is relevant to your downs syndrome experience with the game. Nothing to do with the objective qualities of the game.

>>712965287
>Pick one
I can't give Yharnam shit for looking like a city, but I can give From shit for not trying harder in making parts of the city look different from each other.
Do you get what I'm saying? I like Yharnam, but I hate how it all blends into pretty much the same level.

yeah the 'never ever' posting stopped the second we emulated the game en masse and saw that it was an overrated piece of shit. As always with the Snoyclusives lmao

>>712965486
>first 2 sentences are insults and not arguments
>can't directly reply to the points i made
yea i ain't reading that shit nigga, you lost

>>712965601
It's been way more about making sure all future From Soft games and souls clones are considered shit more than BB.
I think at this point though, they've fully detached from BB, From will just be "bad" until a new Sony Exclusive is made.

>>712965637
I actually did address your points in there but I get it, being black makes text beyond 2 sentences too much. Enjoy losing another argument on the interwebs fren :)

>I actually did address your points in there but I get it, being black makes text beyond 2 sentences too much. Enjoy losing another argument on the interwebs fren :)

>>712965806
this is you btw

>>712965001
>Anon, please. The Trick Weapons are two weapons merged together. It's like just carrying those two weapon and swaping them, except they including a useful weapon attack between shifting
This is the sort of disingenuous reddit dogshit opinion that ive come to expect form BB haters.

Do you not understand how a weapon that can transform is far more dynamic than simply awkwardly swiching weapons? Do you not understand that being able to quicky shift the weapon mid combat is what allows the whole idea of trick weapons to work? Do you not understand thats a completely different feel than swapping two weapons (thyat you'd haver to be built for).

Im just gonna ignore the rest because youre a disingenuous, cynical idiot. Yeah skill respect took you long enough to name an actual flaw with the game you clown.

>>712965737
They finally admitted the truth that Fromshitware was never good to begin with.

>>712965360
You dodge and attack much faster and have less of recovery time.

Cmon this is obvious to anyone that actually played the game.

>>712965929
>Do you not understand that being able to quickly shift weapons mid combat is what allows the idea to work
Like I said, cool transition attacks. Would be just as cool if in souls you had build in weapon swap animations, like sheathing you sword with on motion after a slash only to turn around with an axe swing.

My point is, is it's a slight alteration to an existing system.

>>712966016
No it's more like "if feed off what you covet, it's garbage, fuck you".
/v/ is dishonest about Souls games, you can tell when it's compared to games that don't exist.

>>712966058
>Like I said, cool transition attacks.
You can only resort to downplaying it. You have notihng else. Its mechanically different than swapping weapons.

>Would be just as cool if in souls you had build in weapon swap animations
But you dont, because souls is designed around weapons being limited. BB isnt. Thats the whole point retard.

>My point is, is it's a slight alteration to an existing system.
Which completely changes the way the game plays and feels yes. Much like dashing is a slight alteration to rolling. Why dont you make that point too?

the fact that the most active BB threads have been bait threads proves that you are all a bunch of sedative addled faggots. BB is a great game and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

>>712966467
NTA but trick weapons are cool and i guess technically add more depth to the combat, but i'd wager a majority of players stick to one version of each weapon they prefer and rarely use the transition attacks. i know i don't use that shit, it's just not impactful enough to make a meaningful difference

>>712947143
I can’t argue with this.

>>712966467
You can weapon swap, or you can garnish your weapon swap with a good attack.
That's the only depth, the trick weapons mechanically are otherwise just two known From Soft Weapon categories fused together.

Some aren't even that, Tontorus is just a mace with a self buff, Chikage gets slightly longer but is otherwise just 2 handing a katana.

>>712966486
That's because BB warrants no discussion since it's forgettable without consolefag warring.

>>712948003
Powerful post

Luv me demon's souls
Luv me dark souls
Luv me bloodbornes
Luv me dark souls 3s
Luv me elden rings
'Ate dark souls 2s
Don't 'ate Sekiros just don't like em much simple as

>>712946735 (OP)
Only beat it once and I'm thinking of playing it again. I'm debating whether to start over or just go with NG+. My stats were all over the place (I just picked random shit at times) so I'm thinking of starting over but I also heard at some point you just hit the soft/hard cap of the skills so maybe I'll go NG+. I haven't done the DLC so I'll be doing that in NG+ for the first time.

>>712964157
Bosses are about the only thing that’s equal in both games
Level design, exploration, combat, atmosphere and story are all much better in BB

>>712968349
what makes the level design and exploration better

OP here, wrong image. Meant to post this

>>712946735 (OP)
>I got filtered by Cleric Beast
many such cases

>>712964223
holy shit, a correct opinion on souls games

>>712966863
NTA but I've had plenty of decent discussion surrounding the game in its 10 years of existence. You guys are just irony poisoned and have defined everything you do on this site by that mantra. Which is fine, more power to you but its not a proper substitute for a real personality. Something Joe Schmoe who wakes up from 9-5 to work a job he hates ironically has more of.

>>712968349
>Bosses are about the only thing that’s equal
>Rom
>Ebrietas
>Celestial Emissary
>Witches of Hemwick
>One Reborn
all unremarkable or dogshit bosses. BB is great for a lot of things but bosses is not one of them

>>712968651
Bb has more shit bosses but it’s peak bosses are equal or better than ds3

>>712968851
none of it's bosses are better than gael
gherman comes close though
also moon presence very underwhelming

>>712969589
Moon Presence having the gimmick of completely depleting nearly all your health but giving 100% Rally recovery was interesting, but it's really only a threat if you use Chikage or use cursed gems.

>>712969589
I rate OoK higher than Gael, mainly because he is so fun to fight even if his 2nd phase is straight out nightmare.

>>712946735 (OP)
ENTER

>>712972972
Hollow Knight is at least 1/3 fun. Bloodborne offers none of that nor has a world to get immersed into. Most HK levels blow BB's terrible ones away.

ER>DS1>BB>DS3>DeS

>>712948834
... bro bloodborne on ps5 doesnt get 60 fps. emulation does.

>>712946735 (OP)
I really want to emulate it, but I have no idea how to get it set up.

>>712972972
I can agree with this. There are plenty of indie games I love, and I love Metroid games and Castlevania.

But fuck I just did not care that much about Hollow Knight

>>712947143
Demons Souls is massively overrated and just doesn't play very well most of the time.
Only the Storm Peak level is any good.

>>712948158
>invents 3D lockon combat
literally the seminal moment for every souls-like, character action game, and hack n slash

>>712961982
Bloodborne is hard if you don't use your gun and Dark Souls 2 is hard if you don't level ADP.
Spirit Ashes are an intended part of the Elden Ring experience and no one gives a fuck about your challenge runs where you don't use basic mechanics in the game.
Your experience is not typical and wasn't meant to be typical by the devs.

>>712952478
This is just wrong in every way.
Ignoring graphical fidelity, every Souls game has a strong individualized aesthetic.

>>712960542
lol, lmao even

>>712957246
Arlecchino would be a totally unacceptable parryspam fight in any other game.

>>712962218
Elden Ring has way better gameplay than Bloodborne.

>>712946992
>>712947143
>>712946735 (OP)
Sexiro > DS3 > BB > ER > DeS > DS1 > DS2

>>712949036
nta but the base game is definitely the easiest of all the souls games, you get insane DPS + a rally mechanic + 20 heals from the start of the game + gun parrying on every enemy + Runes that can give you mega buffs like insane amounts of extra stamina, whereas all the enemies are only as strong as DS3 enemies and way weaker than Elden Ring ones, you can literally facetank almost every boss so long as you keep hitting them and heal in between their attack combos
the DLC is harder but not by much, Orphan of Kos is a decent challenge but that's genuinely the only boss that's ever taken me more than one or two tries

>>712946735 (OP)
Just because they're unreasonably loud doesn't mean there's that many of them. Overrated to hell sure, but there's worse out there.

>>712960542
not wrong but all the main menus should be here
based laurence mention

>>712946735 (OP)
Can't BL1 it, 0/10