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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:57:08 AM No.712959193
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Now that the dust has settled, is it worth picking up?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:58:16 AM No.712959279
always was
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:59:14 AM No.712959350
>>712959193 (OP)
boring, mid and forgotten
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:59:57 AM No.712959393
>>712959193 (OP)
yep. good game.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:07:26 AM No.712959896
Rebirth is better
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:08:53 AM No.712960005
it's alright. Significantly less retarded than Rebirth but a bit boring to play through
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:14:53 AM No.712960412
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>>712959193 (OP)
It's good. The weird thing with the game is that its biggest flaw isn't its flaws, it's the way the game keeps getting so close to greatness only to lose the opportunity. I loved all the characters, even the side-characters, and wanted more screen-time from all of them. The story would be enamoring, only to fall apart. There are a lot of amazing boss-fights though. No complaints at all about those.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:16:28 AM No.712960505
I picked it up for 11 bucks brand new at target clearance. yes it was worth it at that price.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:16:40 AM No.712960516
>>712959193 (OP)
Probably worth 20 bucks or so yeah. Decent 6/10
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:16:49 AM No.712960523
Rebirth is better but the bosses in XVI are fun. I hear the DLC is decent, haven't tried it yet.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:17:16 AM No.712960546
>>712959193 (OP)
Play it until you stop having fun and then immediately stop. It's not worth it to go on.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:17:45 AM No.712960579
>>712960505
Is in-person clearance a good place to find discounted games?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:18:30 AM No.712960618
The worst numbered final fantasy besides XIV
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:18:55 AM No.712960651
The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:19:34 AM No.712960685
>>712960579
usually its full of shit games. i got lucky that day
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:19:34 AM No.712960686
>>712959193 (OP)
No it was slop. The story falls off after Cid dies. The main antagonist is fucking retarded. The side quests are fucking abysmal dog shit. Game has no real party members. LE DMC combat. Game is too fucking long.

I didn’t even bother with the DLC fuck FF16
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:23:21 AM No.712960874
>>712960686
Best review about the game I’ve seen. Spot on my feelings exactly. Genuinely can’t believe the FF14 team fucked it up so bad. But seeing yawntrail,I understand now. Hopefully real sphene saves the game.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:23:50 AM No.712960909
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>>712959193 (OP)
Incredibly bland game. I highly recommend skipping it, don't even bother with the demo or pirating it.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:25:29 AM No.712961000
>>712959193 (OP)
Do you want a weak version of Game of Thrones/Final Fantasy XIV? Then yes.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:25:37 AM No.712961006
>>712959193 (OP)
im about 30+ hrs in and i stop motivation to play after getting the bahamaut eikon. Game feels like a total slog 20 hrs in
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:27:01 AM No.712961076
>>712959896
i do enjoy rebirths combat. but the story and sidequest bloat drag it down
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:27:26 AM No.712961103
>>712959193 (OP)
No. This shit was so bad it made Barry's XV takes look normal and sane. It takes a real stinky piece of shit to dethrone XV as the worst FF game.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:28:35 AM No.712961179
>>712961076
XVI has worse story filler imo. At least the characters in Rebirth are fun to be around. XVI only really has Cid and they kill him off
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:30:37 AM No.712961312
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>>712960686
>The story falls off after Cid dies
It doesn't. The pacing is just really bad, and they have to basically reset the story and get your interest again because they killed the interesting characters so early. The Titan boss fight up through the Bahamut boss fight is solid. The endgame is where things really start to drop off. A recurring problem with the game is blowing their load too early and killing characters once you get interested in them. Benedikta, Kupka, and Barnabas were all built up and jobbed out like villains of the week.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:31:47 AM No.712961378
>>712959193 (OP)
Its good until Cid dies. Then it falls apart
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:38:48 AM No.712961852
This game is a little takeshi salaryman wearing a white guy skinsuit that progressively starts sweating and losing sanity until he goes completely feral and rips it off while foaming at the mouth. Kind of like that one XRA episode
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:40:37 AM No.712961947
>>712960686
>>712961312
Killing Cid and Benedikta so early was the stupidest thing in the game. Really killed the story there.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:40:39 AM No.712961949
>>712959193 (OP)
It's worth watching on youtube
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:42:18 AM No.712962079
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>>712959193 (OP)
Absolutely not.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:51:56 AM No.712962660
>>712959193 (OP)
Yeah it was great and I'm tired of pretending it was bad
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:55:02 AM No.712962849
>>712962660
What was great about it?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:29:52 AM No.712964782
>>712962849
>Fast-paced and visually spectacular combat
>Narrative noted for its mature and dark themes with complex political intrigue and character motivations
>Boss battles are some of the most impressive in the gaming industry
>The soundtrack is also one of the best ever, epical and emotional on the key moments and cutscenes
>Graphically better than FFVII Rebirth
>Clive being maybe the best protagonist in the entire FF franchise, with an insane amount of character development
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:31:25 AM No.712964854
>>712964782
>Narrative noted for its mature and dark themes with complex political intrigue and character motivations
>The soundtrack is also one of the best ever, epical and emotional on the key moments and cutscenes
>Clive being maybe the best protagonist in the entire FF franchise, with an insane amount of character development
LMAAAAAOOOOOOOOO
>Fast-paced and visually spectacular combat
And that's all you can say, because that's all it is. Fast and flashy. No depth.

All in all, good bait.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:31:26 AM No.712964858
>>712959193 (OP)
The story had so much potential, its a shame they wasted most of it.

The last 1/3 of the game fucking sucks. Its always like this with final fantasy: they trhow everything they were building away and put some "god" for you to fight.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:33:24 AM No.712964954
It's pretty good
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:35:05 AM No.712965051
. Let's start with the gameplay. The big focus is on the eikon abilities, but the eikon abilities are all on MMO style cooldowns. There's nothing you can do about the cooldowns, you just use them and do your one 4-hit filler combo in the meantime. Compare to SoP or FF7R where all your cool shit uses a resource, and you're rewarded with said resource for staying on the offensive and engaging with the enemy. That isn't the case in XVI, you just dump your skills and fuck around swinging your 4-hit toothpick filling the time. That's boring. What makes it worse is that there's only one character, with one weapon. So you can't even change up your filler playstyle.
Character progression is on rails which is something FFXIII rightfully got shit on for. You get a new eikon every like 10 hours of gameplay and once you do get it there's no way to get anything else. You're storygated out of further cool shit. Character levels not only don't matter at all, but the exp gain is scaled so it stalls out when you start matching enemy levels, preventing you from grinding up. Not that it would matter, because those levels gain you nothing.
Weapon crafting is completely pointless. Each dungeon/boss gives you a material you use to upgrade to the next sword, which just raises your damage by +5 (meaningless). There's literally no point to this system existing, and yet 90% of all treasure you find are materials for this system that has nothing to craft.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:36:06 AM No.712965112
>>712965051
There are moments in the game where you literally watch a 45 minute cutscene, regain control, walk five steps forward, and get thrust into another 45 minute cutscene. The moviegame bloat is unreal, complete with slow forced walk and talk segments, squeezing past narrow corridors, and 'hold the triggers to do thing' QTEs. There are over 20 HOURS of cutscenes in this game. And that's not including the stilted canned emote sidequest cutscenes you'll spend another 20 hours watching.
Sidequests are ripped straight out of FFXIV. They exist just to fill time and for nothing else. Listen to someone spend 10 minutes telling you how and why they need an object on the other side of the map. Walk over and pick it up. Go back. Bam, more crafting materials you can't use. Thrilling.
There is no exploration. There are four giant open world areas with nothing in them but MMO sidequests, and there are hallway dungeons. The hallway dungeons are also ripped straight from FFXIV with the same two trash packs -> mini boss -> two trash packs -> mini boss -> two trash packs -> final boss structure.
Eikon fights have spectacle, but that's all they have. Segments like the Phoenix fight at the start, or the Garuda fighting game segment, or the Phoenix vs Bahamut segment are all on rails and impossible to fail. They're cutscenes.
The only time the game is remotely challenging are in the chronostones (I think that's what they were called) where you have to use one specific eikon and fulfill challenges to keep your time up. The rest of the game you can sleep through. FF Mode isn't any better because you have all eikons out the gate and can just blast everything even more easily than in normal mode.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:37:07 AM No.712965159
>>712965112
Onto the story. The premise of the game is awesome. And then it gets rugpulled almost the instant the demo ends. Within five minutes of the demo ending you watch Clive regain his freedom, his girlfriend, get a new job. Even his dog inexplicably returns at that same moment. And then you play for another hour and find out that he didn't even kill Joshua (hilariously, this comes immediately after he has his big moment of accepting """the truth""" that he killed Joshua). In other words, nothing in the demo mattered. It amounts to nothing except for baiting the player. What makes it worse is that later on you find out that Joshua has a personal ninja cult who was there at Phoenix Gate the night of the attack, and they just didn't intervene. They didn't even attempt to save Joshua, they just literally did nothing until they appeared to yank his unconscious body away off screen. It's nonsense.
It's very clearly stitched together from several different drafts. You have shit like Ultima appearing in the demo wearing Joshua's face and robe. He then appears in the same guise leading Clive to Garuda. But then... Joshua isn't Ultima. Joshua is just Joshua and Ultima never appears wearing his guise again. It's never commented on, it's just obviously a draft in which Ultima used Phoenix to possess Joshua's corpse or something.
You spend the majority of the game's story dealing with Sanbreque and its political situation. Actually most of the cutscenes for the entire game's story are about it. So it must be important, right? Nope. It's just filler. Ultima is fucking around with Sanbreque trying to conquer a continent... that he already has control of. He's literally doing it for no reason. And once Olivier and Clive's mom die, nobody ever mentions the plotline again. It just vanishes, because it actually didn't matter.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:38:08 AM No.712965205
>>712965159
There's a lot more I could get into with the story but this copypasta does a good job of detailing a lot of the stupid shit. >>712105683
The music has a handful of great tracks, but the majority of the soundtrack is bland, forgettable, cinematic trash. If you download the OST you'll see it has 8 discs. But listen to it, and you'll hear the same 5 or 6 songs. Over and over and over and over. There are songs on the OST that are LITERALLY the same song, but with slightly different mixing or intros. It also overuses the fuck out of the Prelude and the FF Main Theme, presumably because Soken thinks that's a shortcut to making it sound like Final Fantasy. Soken is probably one of the most misused aspects of the game. He was celebrated for doing shit like XIV's Alexander soundtrack, exciting rock beats and electronic shit. And then they told him to copy Skyrim or something. The only songs on the OST that sound like Soken are Do or Die and Titan Lost. And according to Soken he actually sneaked those songs into test builds and relied upon the praise for them from QA to make sure the higher ups wouldn't rip them out. Fucking unreal.

The resident XVI shill shut his fucking mouth and left the thread last time I posted all this. Let's see if he does it again.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:40:36 AM No.712965329
Extreme disappointment 2
Extreme disappointment 2
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>>712964782
>complex political intrigue
i feel like they were trying to develop a complex relation between each faction but at some point they just said fuck it and what we got is more of a shallow attempt at creating one.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:43:12 AM No.712965456
>>712961852
Lmao absolutely spot on analogy
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:48:14 AM No.712965725
Boring game with meh gameplay. Just watch the story at 4x speed on youtube instead.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:48:41 AM No.712965745
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>>712964782
>Fast-paced and visually spectacular combat
That’s about the only thing it has going for it and it’s still a lesser version of what inspired it.
>Narrative noted for its mature and dark themes with complex political intrigue and character motivations
This sounds like something ChatGPT would spit out. It barely followed through on its initial premise as it completely drops the political intrigue and scarcity plot for muh anime god shit
>Boss battles are some of the most impressive in the gaming industry
wow press X to awesome
>The soundtrack is also one of the best ever, epical and emotional on the key moments and cutscenes
FF isn’t allowed to a grade over its fucking music. It’s like giving a restaurant a 5 star review because it’s employs waiters
>Graphically better than FFVII Rebirth
LOL
>Clive being maybe the best protagonist in the entire FF franchise, with an insane amount of character development
I’ll give you that Clive was cool but I don’t care anymore because the rest of the game is faggot aids.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:49:54 AM No.712965804
>>712965745
>I’ll give you that Clive was cool
He spends the majority of the game crying like a bitch and screaming "JOSHUAR!!!"
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:53:37 AM No.712965993
>>712964782
>with an insane amount of character development
Clive doesn't develop at all, he's the same "bearers have feelings... we decide our own terms..." the entire way through, from start to finish.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:59:11 AM No.712966305
>>712959193 (OP)
No
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:01:00 AM No.712966394
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>>712965159
Whoever wrote the Joshua/robe/Clive connection should be black balled from the industry. What absolute slop writing Jesus fuck lol
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:03:02 AM No.712966518
>>712965745
I am not sure how you feel about Sokens music but from my pov he is incredibly hit and miss. Some of his songs are grade A final fantasy feel while other songs sound like its trying to appeal to “the younger generation” on the same level of dubstep. I have no idea how this composer has such duality but I would hardly call his music the best when compared to the likes of naoshi mizuta or nobuo uematsu
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:03:35 AM No.712966548
Game was decent, and if it didn't have the FF name attached to it, would have been a cult classic here.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:05:33 AM No.712966658
>>712959193 (OP)
It looked like uninspired single player MMO garbage from the start. FF has been dead for over 20 years and SE is also dead. Games are mid at best and insanely bloated. Pack it up
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:10:04 AM No.712966946
>>712959193 (OP)
It is a good game if you
>don't like RPGs
>especially not Final Fantasy
>don't like depth in your combat
>just want to see pretty particle effects all over the screen
>want a easy to follow plot that just apes western tropes of 'le rape' and 'le murder' with no charm at all
>don't care that the main character has less growth than the average doom guy in their games
Then XVI is for you.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:11:09 AM No.712967016
>>712959193 (OP)
Story could’ve been incredible, seemed like it was headed that way. Basic combat was pretty close to being perfect. By that I don’t mean combat was 9.5/10 or anything. Combat is 5/10. They were a few tiny choices away from making it 10/10, though. The entire affair seemed very barebones except for the score, cutscenes, and voice acting (so a squeenix FF game). Gaiju fights were admittedly really fun and a spectacle but didn’t flow great with the rest of the game. Side quests are a complete waste of time and the weapon upgrades don’t really matter when there’s no type advantages or special abilities or anything like that. I don’t think I ever died before I dropped it, about 20 hours in.

tldr is that with 17 or 18, they might actually perfect transitioning to action combat after almost 3 decades of piecemeal experimentation and lackluster main installments. Right in time for turn-based combat to become popular again! kekekekek. God damn I’m a fan of the most cursed fucking franchise and just want to be done with it all.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:11:10 AM No.712967018
>>712961947
Making people interested/attached to characters and then killing them is absolutely fucking retarded and only done for shock factor.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:11:15 AM No.712967024
>>712965993
>he's the same "bearers have feelings... we decide our own terms..."
There's fuck lot of time skip in this game for some fucking reason and they ended up having to rely on subtlety and symbolism to show how character developed. Maybe if they actually bothered to show what was Clive like during his enslavement people will actually give a damn about his rose to power following the death of Cid.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:12:36 AM No.712967121
>>712960412
Godammit you gave voice to a feeling I've had since I finished it. It's such a let down of a game. Looks amazing, PLAYS amazing, sounds fucking amazing. Everything that's wrong with this is simple, basic shit, like writing some dialogue that doesn't suck, caring about these characters more than half a shit, wanting to expand on anything in the setting aside from the dumbass bad guys stupid plot for even two fucking seconds. It sucks because it's so close to being good. Play the demo, imagine how cool it must be, then move on.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:16:45 AM No.712967370
I’m this guy
>>712967016
And I agree with
>>712967121
>>712960412
It came so close. Nothing wrong necessarily, but it’s almost just a blueballs feeling.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:18:16 AM No.712967457
>>712960412
I would release ifruit in her
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:18:38 AM No.712967471
Play through it once
Appreciate the spectacle
Forget about it forever
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:20:57 AM No.712967575
>>712959193 (OP)
It kind of falls off in the last quarter of the game. Also, equipment is almost a completely pointless system in the game, which was disappointing. Great characters though.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:22:29 AM No.712967679
No, it's fucking boring. None of the environments are interesting at all and the combat is insanely repetitive. Pretty much 90% of the game is running to the map maker, killing a wave of weak enemies, a 2nd wave of enemies spawns with a larger enemy with a stagger bar, repeat. The main story quests are mostly just this filler where nothing happens. There is no variety besides which enemy spawns and you fight the same like 10 enemies over and over. The strategy is exactly the same for all of them. The Eikon fights are okay but they are basically a glorified cutscene and impossible to lose. The only one that killed me was in the DLC, none of the others even came close. A 5/10 at best.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:24:19 AM No.712967782
>>712959193 (OP)
>game of thrones setting (but worse)
>dmc combat (but worse)
>dead empty world with nothing in it but crafting materials, copypasted enemies, and gliimers that never amount to anything but a potion or 2 gil
>bland generic world
>linear dungeons
>zero sense of adventure due to bring so heavily tied down to the hideaway
>tacked on and nearly useless crafting system
>the only two characters who aren't a black hole of charisma and personality die off 30% of the way into the game
>need to use the broadest definition of RPG possible to even be able to classify this barely customizable game with zero systems as an RPG
>35 hour game, TWENTY HOURS of which are cutscenes
>gear is just flat stat increases
>accessories are horrifically boring and don't enhance your feats or abilities in any way aside from boosting their damage a little or reducing their cooldowns a little (aside from bits but they're endgame-only AND you need to pay extra for the DLC to even get them)
>DLC packaged separately on all versions of the game. no complete version will likely ever be released
>the pace at which you get new eikons is abysmal
>one weapon type, one weapon combo
>fighting as ifrit is pure spectacle, but the actual ifrit gameplay is literally more shallow than most PS1 brawlers
>the story isn't even mature, its generic shonenslop but with loads of blood, cursing, and sex
>bland generic dialogue
I bought I PS5 for this game, and I can safely say it was the single biggest gaming disappointment of my life. I had took take a month long break fro this game due to sheer boredom before I mustered up the will to finish it. Decent soundtrack and best voice acting ever in Final Fantasy bar none.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:31:22 AM No.712968158
>>712967782
>accessories are horrifically boring and don't enhance your feats or abilities in any way aside from boosting their damage a little or reducing their cooldowns a little (aside from bits but they're endgame-only AND you need to pay extra for the DLC to even get them)

I couldn't believe this shit, they are all so bad. The game gives you loadouts for abilities but the accessories don't also change when you change the loadout which makes 90% of them basically useless unless you want to swap them all the time. The DLC accessories are amazing. Glad I just waited the 6 months for Denuvo to be removed to pirate this garbage.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:40:26 AM No.712968604
>>712967782
They honestly could have just made it into an anime with how little effort they put into the final product as an actual playable video game. You could have kept the characters, soundtrack, story, and big spectacle moments, but without the halfassed gameplay bringing it all down.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:58:21 AM No.712969537
>rape your lore, setting and story during the last 30% of the game and murder it all in the ending
>can't even do a prequel because everything was just lmao ultima
What in the actual genuine fuck did they mean by this?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:03:29 AM No.712969827
>>712967457
You and me both, brother. She's got that "I was sculpted in a cutscene running at 24fps" kinda vibe. Just ethereal enough to make you hesitate for half a second before going feral.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:04:23 AM No.712969880
>>712969827
Why did they kill her off so soon
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:08:18 AM No.712970105
>>712960412
Probably feels like a cave in there after being stretched wide by Kupka's bouldercock
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:12:03 AM No.712970294
>>712969880
kinda wasted but I do like how Clive took credit for it just to piss off his boytoy
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:14:54 AM No.712970446
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It's "ok", I feel like it has one of the worst pacings I've ever seen and it reminded me too much of the ways in which XIV tries to pad its length in the worst ways possible.
The structure of every arc is exactly the same:
>Have to go to place X
>For reasons, you first have to stop by a village in the middle of the road. There you will meet a leader of sorts (A Mayor, the leader of a whorehouse, a rebels boss and so on) who will give you a stupid fetch quest to see if he can trust you and after that will give you a nice boyscout patch you can attach to your armor. Now you can do some more fetch quests for the village and move on, thinking "wow, that was completely useless and had nothing to do with the plot. Imagine if we could just not do this. Hopefully it won't happen again!"
>You now enter a linear instance where you have to fight fodder, kill some miniboss, fight fodder, kill another miniboss, fight some more fodder and now you can fight the actual boss.
Repeat this until the end of the game, it genuinely made me want to jump off a bridge from the sheer amount of useless characters the game was absolutely obsessed with trying to make me like, see the Blacksmith, Gav or the manager of your base. Meanwhile the only somehow decently written one in the story is killed off after the first arc and the game spends 80% of its remaining narrative just sucking his dick and basically sayingf "Ah, if only that wonderful character we wrote was still here!"
For bizarre reasons the game also reaches a massive high in power scale during the Bahamuth fight that is never replicated, the remaining part is a massive wet fart by comparison.
I could add that the combat is also garbage, there's no RPG elements whatsoever and enemy variety sucks. All you do the entire time is basically hit enemies until stunned and then use all your cooldown abilities, rinse and repeat.

Just play GranblueFantasy Relink. Game was actually fun. Get it onsale and coop with your bros.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:20:32 AM No.712970740
>>712959193 (OP)
The spectacle part of the game was amazing, but because they threw everything they got at the Eikon battles it basically turned the game into a rollercoaster. It builds up to an Eikon battle, you beat the Eikon, and then it drops again. Rinse and repeat and because the Eikon battles are so well done it makes regular gameplay seem tame. No playable characters was a huge detraction but it was still an amazing game
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:25:36 AM No.712970975
>>712959193 (OP)
Not really.
Story is passable and the graphics look pretty. Autistically detailed world building and also there's a fucking character relationship map with timeline which was quite handy for remembering who the fuck all the characters were. Gameplay is passable, but it's just not Final Fantasy. Very limited character customisation options, barely feels like an RPG - it's just loadouts. Tons of random side quest shit that feel kind of meaningless and only serve to bloat your play time. Default settings are fucking retarded, I have never gotten motion sick so fast from a game before. Lots of crashes on PC.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:26:42 AM No.712971034
It's one of the best and worst games I've played.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:27:27 AM No.712971073
>>712959193 (OP)
GOD DAMN IT ANONYMOUSES OF THIS THREAD I'm at the point of no return in FF7 Remake is there an optimal way of doing all these fucking side quests because it's driving me crazy

Love, anon
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:37:09 AM No.712971578
>>712961312
I would say it does because of the timeskip. That was the dumbest thing they did in the story for sure. At that point, I'm interested and fully invested in seeing how Clive reacts to seeing his surrogate father passes, and his reaction to Joshua still being alive. How does he regather Cid's band and break the news to them of his passing? How does he keep them together and what triggers within him to fully taking on the Cid title and trying to start a conflict with Hugo? All that interesting stuff, glossed over.

If Yoshi P was directing Final Fantasy 6, he'd do a timeskip after the Returners are separated on the raft by Ultros, and then only continue during the part where they're all back together to fight Kefka in the snowfield, barely even going over who all the new characters like Celes, Gau and Cyan were. All the cool stuff like the Phantom Train, Kafka poisoning Doma, Celes and Locke's flirting, all of it would not exist.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:49:47 AM No.712972182
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>>712965993
>>712965804
Most of Clive's character development is based on his relationship to Joshua. the theme of this game is overcoming trauma and brotherhood

Basically you are seeing a character destroyed by trauma regain a sense of self. It is about finding his identity because up to that point his whole identity revolves around Joshua. Why? His father told him to protect Joshua, his mother thought he was useless and the only worth he has was him protecting Joshua. He felt sad that he didn't live up to everyone's expectations by not becoming a dominant and thus decided he could protect his country by protecting and serving his brother. He basically made his life revolve around Joshua because it was the only thing that gave his life meaning. Clive is not living for himself, he doesn't really have an identity besides being Joshua's shield.

Now that he grows up the real game starts and he is an empty shell only driven by avenging Joshua. Once he sees Jill he remembers that there are others besides Joshua and rediscovers who he was before. You see his character grow and he is no longer suicidal. He accepts that Joshua is dead and learns to move on. That there are other people worth fighting for that he learns to form strong bonds with and develops his own goal.

Then Joshua appears again and he basically has to relive the trauma again because he has to face the possibility that Joshua is going to die again. Now the struggle is that Clive is focused on self sacrificing himself so that everyone gets their happy ending. Joshua notices this and punches him because he wants Clive to rely on him too. But Clive is struggling because he wants to keep Joshua safe but not deny him his independence like Anabella did. He basically gains the mental strength to live on for himself, he is no longer the empty shell he was when he lost his brother after phoenix gate so he picks up his sword after Joshua dies and faces ultima
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:53:17 AM No.712972338
>>712972182
>so he picks up his sword after Joshua dies and faces ultima
And then he dies too.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:55:37 AM No.712972458
>>712964782
>Clive being maybe the best protagonist in the entire FF franchise, with an insane amount of character development
pffftt hahahaha
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:56:00 AM No.712972479
>>712959193 (OP)
If you have an amazing pc, yeah. The game is basically visual porn. The gameplay and story suck, but the summoning fights are a visual spectacle beyond compare. There's nothing else that comes close.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:58:02 AM No.712972574
>>712972338
He actually doesn't die.
Replies: >>712974642
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:58:20 AM No.712972585
>>712972338
he doesn't, only Joshua dies. He lives on and he writes the book for his brother
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:11:22 AM No.712973180
>traumatized by a woman
>enslaved and buckbroken
>swears like a squeaker on xbox live
>cries when he gets sick powers
>has awkward stunted mannerisms even when he's in his mid thirties and has had sex
Ah yes, everybody's idea of cool and "the best"
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:13:13 AM No.712973257
>>712973180
>even when he's in his mid thirties and has had sex
Getting raped and gaped by Sanbreque nobles doesn't count as having sex
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:19:21 AM No.712973506
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CHOCOBOCHADS WE FUCKING DID IT WE'RE GETTING THROUGH ALL THE SIDEQUESTS OH MY LORD I HAD TO USE A PHOENIX DOWN ON TIFA ONCE DON'T TELL NO ONE
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:19:58 AM No.712973535
>>712973257
Having sex with bearers is viewed worse than bestiality so there is hope he wasn't raped.
Replies: >>712974265
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:23:07 AM No.712973672
>>712973257
He got to plow his very own personalized fuckbot only programmed to say "Clive". I don't wanna hear this rape nonsense.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:29:58 AM No.712973929
To any anon's who played both VXI and SoP, is VXI close to as good SoP?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:30:12 AM No.712973937
>>712959193 (OP)
>>712959193 (OP)
It is a bad action game.
It is not an rpg.
It is a terrible FF game.
It is a boring movie.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:33:55 AM No.712974084
>>712970975
Oh yeah and the stupid purple filter in the last quarter of the game is one of the dumbest design decisions in any video game ever.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:34:39 AM No.712974116
>>712973929
No
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:35:58 AM No.712974180
>>712973929
Not even remotely close.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:37:58 AM No.712974265
>>712973535
Jill was for sure, tho. In the butt.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:47:02 AM No.712974595
>>712973929
Nope. SoP should have been a numbered entry while XVI should have been relegated to a side entry.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:48:04 AM No.712974642
>>712972585
>>712972574
Clive's star went out and Jill immediately knew what that meant and broke down crying. He's dead.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:49:05 AM No.712974687
>>712959193 (OP)
Well, it's the best numbered FF game since XII, take that as you will.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:59:09 AM No.712975076
>>712974642
>Clive's hand was fine when he washed up on the beach, it only petrified after he tried using magic
>Joshua was hard, confirmed dead, Clive could not cast Raise, his body fell into the sea
>Jill's questline talks about how the sunrise to her means that Clive will return, hence why she stops crying when she sees the sunrise
>Tomes's questline is about how he wants Clive to write his memoirs
He didn't die.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:38:07 AM No.712976689
>>712974642
Literally everything in the game points to Clive being alive
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:41:00 AM No.712976801
>>712959193 (OP)
Better than Rebirth due to Timely accesories.