Thread 712960791

ACbros… Why are our mechs so tiny…

That's why I play a fuckhuge character in f-list. So I can pick people up. And also size difference is best fetish.

I prefer smaller mechs because the variety of possible combat areas and the tactics they use on them is more varied and interesting
That fuckass shitty video "best fight eva ez8 vs gouf" or whatever is the closest you can get to mobile suits being tactical in the sense that the pilots are moving like drunk old men in a bar and missing nearly every bullet

>>712960963
>woman falling at terminal velocity hits metal surface rising at speed
She's dead, isn't she?

6.5 meters tall is my sweetspot, that's about how big the ones in Titanfall are.

>>712960791 (OP)
An Armored Core would fuck up a Mobile Suit though

>>712961140
No, he imperceptibly decelerated his hand to match her velocity or whatever

>>712961204
grow up versusfaggot

>>712961140
animators can't into physics

like.
it's kinda dumb actually they JUST needed to show the lancelot also falling so it caught her on descent, lessening the impact, but suzaku catches her on ASCENT

>>712960791 (OP)
There is no way ACs in 1 are that small. That's like 2 people tall

ACs are the fighter planes of mechs. Small and aerodynamic.

>>712961235
>Gundams are so much bigger than your ACs
>But ACs are stronger
>S-shut up
Seething gundamfag

>>712960963
The redpill is that the gouf custom fight is shit and they're all acting like retards so he can look cool.
The very first fucking thing they do is split up and wander off and then get effortlessly lead around while he takes out the guntanks one at a time. They would've been fine if they did literally anything else but the worst possible thing.
Everyone just likes the design and some of the moment to moment animation.
>>712961204
Beam weapons are really good. Post OYW, no way.
>>712961268
It's a bit of a flub based on the models for the cars being really tall.

>>712961268
> Default AC is 10 meters tall
> 2 people
...

>>712961409
stop projecting and go back to spacebattles or something

>>712960791 (OP)
Smaller mobile suits are literally better, which is why most of the late UC suits are smaller compared to early UC.

>>712961462
I mean specifically looking at that diagram in the top right. And it's specifically talking about ones from AC6, which are a different size

>>712960791 (OP)
>Losing to yuri
wait wait wait

>>712960791 (OP)
I didn't play AC in a long time, but I thought ACs were huge; like I vaguely remember tanks/assault vehicles being smaller than treads on the tank-legs.

i think most mobile suits are like 3-4 stories tall. whatever shit they make in the new entries doesnt really matter it isnt real gundam. its just modern brand slop.

ANYWAY. If you like armored core 6 dont forget that this was discovered while datamining AC 6. Some kind of visual document pertaining to the events of AC1 and AC2.

>>712961436
dudes glaze the shit out of the gouf fight scene because it's literally just hype moments and aura. Like. Full on zoomer meme shit that's why they like it. The fight itself is a fucking MESS on every sense of the word.

Truth is the vast majority of directors and screenwriters on mecha media are dogshit on actual combat coreography and mobile suits in particular hit the exact middle term of "this is a fucking useless piece of fucking shit as its the definition of a walking huge target". Make the mechs too slow and you give tankfags their golden argument, and make them fly or too fast and you might as well just use actual fucking fighter jets. No one making mecha media goes for the middle ground that actually works - make mechs AGILE and MOBILE, but grounded. They're big humans. Humans can be acrobatic. If you can't make an acrobatic big human robot then don't fucking make one.

Code geass is kind of a meme series and it all goes to shit when they start flying, but the actual combat coreography in it is miles better than 95% of most mecha media because they understand that the big robot needs to be fucking fast for it to have any use fighting other robots AND military vehicles.

>>712961525
Gundam's tech got slightly bigger over time and then suddenly got smaller when they optimized generators. Bigger mechs could hold bigger generations and more weaponry and thrusters for like 4 shows in a row. The nu and sazabi were bigger and better than previous suits.
>>712961717
You can find busted tanks in 6 and they're also huge. They're not even the ac-tank thing. They're just big tanks.

I love tiny mecha

>>712961768
>make them fly or too fast and you might as well just use actual fucking fighter jets
Jets can't quickboost sideways and then land and keep fighting. There's an advantage to having the choice to move in non-aerodynamic ways at a moments notice.
Ignoring that the physics are goofy because we're talking about mechs anyway, jets that could just stop and land and hold ground would be absolutely massive.

>>712961972
its fucked up that the D-Walker is absurdly fucking useful
aim-strafing with it makes it essentially a gundam

>>712962014
Helicopters and Vertical take off jets exist. They can move in weird ways and land anywhere. Mechs exist best when they break physics just a bit, while still being useful

>>712961204
If the AC is using NEXT, sure.

>>712961742
I think "bigger" mobile suits/mecha is better used for fighting enemies of same size
like the Jaeger from Pacific Rim

permaboosters ruined mechs

where's all that fucking fuel coming from motherfucker

use your fucking legs

>>712960791 (OP)
Small mechs > big mechs

>my only option for slow mechs action are mechwarrior games and early gundam versus games, the rest are turn based games
>Steel battalion never remade with VR control because it's not soulslop.
Shame

I wish they'd make an armored core that was basically just 3rd gen, but add quick boost. And I guess adjust the level design and ai accordingly.

>>712962773
What can an action shooter game with mechs really to do differentiate it from being a very big slow bloke?

>>712960791 (OP)
shart from mercury is dog shit and you should feel bad for liking a show that fucking dog shit you mutt nigger.

>>712962773
you got steel battalion with bad controls, it was a kinect game

>>712961345
I mean they spend more time flying in the fucking air than on the ground so I guess that tracks

>>712962773
Don't remind me how shit this was.

>>712962872
Dude your extensions?

>>712963002
3rd person shooter where dodging mandatory with superfast boost vs 1st person shooter inside a mech cockpit with tank like movement, so like doom eternal vs SWAT 4.

>>712961768
why even make them mechs if they're just going to move exactly like people

>>712963716
>1st person shooter inside a mech cockpit with tank like movement
>SWAT 4
You don't get swat though. You get corner peaking, like every other slow mech game. You get people waddling back and forward behind big rocks trying to out dps their opponents.

>>712963721
Do they?

>>712963463
Yeah, I know. But I like how they work in later gens

>>712962273
They can land but can't hold ground. They land when they're exiting combat and ending operations. They can't just go on fighting like that.

>>712963721
Big dudes fighting good. Bigger humanlike machines fighting even better.

>>712963463
I don't think I ever used those things. They're certainly not useful for evasion that's for sure.

>>712960791 (OP)
Why is it so important to be big? AC mechs are just the right size.

>>712961140
Downward force can be turned into horizontal force to cushion falls, see parkour niggas rolling upon landing
Suppose he caught her at an angle she'll be fine

>>712962428
Kojima particle shenanigry aside, NEXTs are kind of tame compared to what usually shows up in Gundam as far as speed and power goes.

>>712961483
It hadn't be this way, buddy.

>>712960791 (OP)
Mechs that move via rockets and boosters are not real mechs. They are sentai ranger goku wannabes wearing robot costumes.

This is not a debate. This is a statement of truth. If you disagree you are wrong.

>>712960791 (OP)
>13m
>18m
holy shit you guys are a bunch of effeminate midges
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/RX-93_%CE%BD_Gundam>>712961204
lets go faggot, I'll leave my funnels at home

>>712965081
You post this like we don't all know mechwarrior has jumpjets. Even the atlas can have them.

weeee

>>712965340
>jj's that slowly trudge up a mech vertically at roughly twice the speed of smell is the same as mechs that fly around like they are instant transmitting and leaving after images
Cease breathing.

>>712965340
BT Grognards on this site don't actually play any Battletech related game. They just shit up /m/ threads.

>>712965603
>trace anime mechs because you think they're super cool
>keep their ability to fly and zoom around in the air
>the fans have to pretend they don't exist because this makes them upset now for some reason
Now that you've learned you don't like mechwarrior, what's the next thing you're gonna pretend to like?

>>712965603
>Flies behind your mech using WiGe rules and rear shots your 100 ton mech in a single round
nothing personal

SRV-14-A Fei-Yen
>14.8m

lol mechlet

>>712963721
That's what a fucking mech is, a glorified exoskeleton. The entire idea is that they move like people. Otherwise it would just be a tank.

>>712960791 (OP)
ACs are sure to win because their speed is superior.

>>712960963
>>712961768
this shit is so ass

>>712966043
I was messing with Improved Jump jets on LAMs in MegaMekLab and I got a LAM that can reach speeds of 388 kph. That's faster than my speedy build in AC6. So much for realism.

>>712968150
It's even more wacky than gundam because LAMs can just fly into space. Imagine getting super into the concept of mechwarrior being this ubergritty hardcore physics-respecter setting and then the mech you're fighting turns into a jet and flies to the fucking moon.

>>712968828
To be fair LAMs are pretty controversial in and out of universe and lots of people hate them. I know they've done everything they can to bury them permanently.

>>712963002
brahma force assault on beltlogger 9

>>712969050
Hey, you trace macross for your mecha setting, don't get surprised there's a bunch of leftover macross about the place.
Herb, one of the later guys running battletechs canon writing, seethed over them so hard he tried to make them effectively unplayable and canonically terrible and then they all got destroyed down to the last bolt and all the factories and manuals destroyed too. And then they just came back later anyway. They're always gonna stick around, triggering the same grogs.

>>712966269
She was made entirely using a 3D printer, please understand. You can see it in her game over screen in the original game.