It's dogshit

>>712973845 (OP)
explain why it's dogshit in no less than 536 words

>>712973914
its gay and for fags

>>712973845 (OP)
Just like the first two.

>>712974634
that's only 6 words (actually 5 because you misspelled it's)

>>712974698
Based, it's a must buy, then.

>>712974634
not a reason

>>712973845 (OP)
That's what your mom said on your birthday

The only dogshit part is performance otherwise it's a fun as fuck never ending Nioh level.
Can't wait to play it next year.

>>712973845 (OP)
The Demo has FPS issues.

>>712973845 (OP)
...It's not even out yet.

>>712974858
Do any of the Nioh 1 bosses make a return? I liked fighting Yuki-Onna and the spider bitch, but I'd rather not have to replay Nioh 1 to do it. I've become too used to Nioh 2s Yokai abilities and all the ways I can animation cancel attacks.

>>712973845 (OP)
Ngl it's hilarious to read the hopium ninjadrone posts after the endless stream of slop produced by this company after NiOH2.

>>712975202
>Do any of the Nioh 1 bosses make a return?
Some.

>I liked fighting Yuki-Onna and the spider bitch
They're not in Nioh 2.

>>712975326
Yeah, I know. Shit like Nue and Onyroki made it instead. Onyroki is a joke of a fight, and Nue just loves spamming lightning everywhere and his soul core seemingly never lands when I use it.

>>712975470
IMO Nioh 1 has the best collection of bosses, and they're evenly split between human and yokai. There are only a handful of bosses I miss from Nioh 2, and even though Ren has more tools than Jin, the frequency Ren spams Flame Dragon/Exorcist Blade/Umbral Bullet is far greater than Jin does his Flame Dragon.

>>712975202
Nioh 3 doesn't exactly plays like 1 and 2.

>>712975310
to be fair, their output from Metroid Other M to Nioh wasn't exactly stellar

>>712975859
Nioh 1's Maria is also a really fun fight if you can keep up with her instead of just fishing for openings, very fast paced. Helps that Alchemists is one of the best boss themes in the series

>>712973845 (OP)
you're dogshit

>>712978264
She's also prettier in Nioh 1.

>>712978884
The shadow around her eyes really makes a difference, it's just not the same without

>>712979273
>local anon discovers the magic of eye shadow
Panda eyes are just better.

>>712978884
Maria mi reina

>>712979273
It helps, but there's more going off than that.

>>712979416
Her eyebrows changed.

>>712979561
The lips, nostril angle, even the iris size is different.
It's surprising, really

>>712975470
Nue is one of the few genuinely shit soul cores of nioh2, its impressive because like 90% or so are at least good.

>>712979921
>The lips, nostril angle, even the iris size is different.
>It's surprising, really
It's not as if human skulls don't stop changing when we reach adulthood. Every thirty years the human body has replaced its entire skeleton.

Why do people like to not learn how to play the game and instead just try to be as powerful as possible? It's like them asking stupid questions when they could just play the actual game and find out for themselves

>>712980248
Meta-fagging affects all games, not just Nioh.

>>712975202
>Do enemies make a return?
>In a Team Ninja game?
Listen to yourself

>>712980040
Can the gaki soul core be redeemed? Or rokugezo?

>Gaki
This yokai gets used way too much in Nioh 2. I'm kinda hoping that we done see it much in Nioh 3.

>>712975859
>and they're evenly split between human and yokai
human bosses were fucking dogshit LW spammers.
i'd say maybe a third of them were actually fun.
personally i think 2 made the right call in tipping the scales toward the yokai side of things

>>712980414
Gaki is not great but at least has good synergy with yokai form builds. By rokurgezo you mean rokurobi? Its does decent damage but yeah its just ok, Nue is objectively bad due to how inconsistent it is.

>>712980520
Dont count on it, the little dudes are the perfect initial mook enemies so expect them to be all over the initial areas.

Shunobon's should have been the new gaki but they are so fucking easy to deal with while the latter can be a pain in group fights at least.

>>712973845 (OP)
I liked the first two games a lot but after seeing that they're still reusing same monsters and using that shitty loot system for the third game; I honestly can't justify myself getting this game on launch. KT are so fucking lazy man.

>>712980727
>human bosses were fucking dogshit LW spammers.
>i'd say maybe a third of them were actually fun.
Speak for yourself. I love fighting Date Masamune, Sanada Yukimura, Mysterious Samurai and Maria.

>>712980520
they need to spice up gaki somehow. Maybe have their attacks hit other gaki since they're cannibalistic assholes

>>712980798
>Dont count on it, the little dudes are the perfect initial mook enemies so expect them to be all over the initial areas.
But they're so boring and overused in Nioh 2.

>>712981015
Who doesn't love popping them in the head with an arrow?

>>712980727
when you say lw spamming is bad you mean to say they overuse certain attacks, them being in lw isn't the actual problem

>>712981126
I don't think that anon knows how to fight them, which is why he doesn't like them.

>>712973845 (OP)
is this an open world or open area type game

>>712981015
They are overused thanks to nioh2 being a fuckhuge game but i dont think they are boring.

>fun to bully when alone
>genuinely a nuisance when in grouped with stronger yokai
>has a stronger form tranformation that depends on you fucking up and either getting grabbed or not finishing another downed gaki
>can be ranged enemies with either rocks or bombs
>can ambush from the ground or from high places
They are genuinely decent low level enemies that just suffer from overuse.

Again, compare to the redskins they introduced in nioh3 which have like what? hyper armor in bighead mode and an USELESS ground spike trap that lasts less than 5 seconds, thats it.

>>712981126
yes, that's what it boils down to

>>712981218
300+ hours in nioh 1, i did every single mission on every single difficulty.

i know how to fight them, i just don't think they are as fun as the yokai.

there's exceptions, as i said. i just feel like nioh 2 nails the perfect ratio of human-yokai enemies

>>712981638
>i just feel like nioh 2 nails the perfect ratio of human-yokai enemies
There are about thirty yokai bosses and around fifteen human bosses in Nioh 2. That's pretty much 2:1.

I hate they made it so that you could headshot people out of lw. Like what is the point of lw then? Not as many humans can lw in nioh 2 but then you have other bullshit you can use

>>712981997
Why do you hate an option you can ignore?

>>712982047
because instead of designing a fun way to interact with the boss they made a cheap out. And they could have used that time instead to refine the balance.

>>712981015
Yeah, they’re spammed to hell but they kinda work as fodder, which every game like this needs. The real problem is they didn’t evolve them at all—same lazy flailing, same goofy sound effects. Imagine if they morphed or fused into a bigger monster mid-fight like some mini-Nurikabe or sprouted spikes when enraged. Instead we get 1000 reskins and bomb-throwing variants. Team Ninja really needs to spice them up if they’re coming back for round 3.

>>712982516
Like what exactly? Ninjutsu and Onmyo already have projectiles that have various quirks to them. Having the option to do headshots to knockout living weapon bosses is great because it's more options. I honestly love the fact that you can do this to human enemies across the entire board. I'm so sick of games that funnel you into a handful of specific play styles.

>>712981803
yes, exactly

>>712981226
it's an open book

>>712982797
Lame.

>>712979921
I think Nioh 1 Date DLC takes place in 1613 and Nioh 2 final chapter takes place in 1616, rough few years for Maria

>>712982776
I'm glad ranged weapons can do that but there's no nuance to it. And if they wanted to expand the playstyles of guns/bows they'd be more integrated into the combat and have more applications.

But that wasn't what I was talking about, I said LW being vulnerable to head shots isn't interesting. You made all these moves when you can just knock the human down and immediately end it. That in itself can be fun and effective but theres not much back and forth to it if I can just ippon datara yorimitsu for example.

>>712983406
Then your issue is that bows are a sub weapon when what you really want is a bow as a main class weapon.

>>712980892
>Make Yodogimi the main villain for the DLC
>But that would make Sanada a bad guy
>So we make him turn against her for the greater good
>But that would make him a dishonourable traitor
>So we make his best friend dress up as him and make everyone believe Sanada remained loyal and died with honour
I love all the hoops they jump through to maneuver themselves around the history to portray characters in a way that fits the story they want to tell.

>>712983614
Yodogimi wasn't even a real villain, more like a tragic character.

>>712983614
>I love all the hoops they jump through to maneuver themselves around the history to portray characters in a way that fits the story they want to tell
It didn't work for Hideyoshi though. I think Otakemaru is cool, but he stripped Hideyoshi of all his agency. Just let these historical figures be power hungry assholes who are just using amrita and yokai for their own political gain.

>>712983824
but they can't make japanese people look bad

>>712983787
I know, I actually really liked what they did with her. It made me come up with a schizo theory that she intentionally but subtly influenced the Toyotomi clan to its doom as revenge for what Hideyoshi and Nobunaga did to her.
I went to the spot where she died in Osaka castle, it's very plain but peaceful.

>>712980248
Usual progression of niohfags is clear the game across all dreams and build the most op build you can, drop game part way through underworld, come back to game with a new save and just play to have fun/git gud without build autism. All this across 200-500 hours

>>712973845 (OP)
Never played a Nioh game before. Should I try 1 or 2 before this one? Or are they heavily connected in terms of plot and I would risk missing some interesting reference if I skipped one?

>>712984131
They are surprisingly connected, although 2 starts off as it's own thing. 2 is the overall better game, but playing 1 first makes you appreciate the improvements more.

>>712984131
Plot is connected but only in that 2 is prequel to 1 and the actual story is mostly just sengoku period but everyone has guardian spirits and powers. Kinda irrelevant.

>>712984242
2 is both a prequel and a sequel to 1.

>>712984340
Oh yeah afterglow takes place after n1, doesnt it

>>712973845 (OP)
Yeah, it is not better than 2 so far.
I will still preorder the shit out of it.

Isn't the gimmick basically that you are BOTH a ninja AND a samurai and can switch between their forms/movesets? WE ARE A NINJA SAMURAI but can also go LE SUPER SAIYAN HENSHIN ANIME FORM as well.

They just said "fuck it" here you can do everything.

>>712984614
they should give ninja mode the break gauge system from SoP

>>712984792
Considering the style change basically is sop job change lite this would be cool but it would only really work well imo if they also add the ability to chain cancel skills to change styles. Though at that point you're not only managing the stance system from nioh to ki pulse and string combos but you're also learning to chain cancel skills on top of that which I dont think would ki pulse so it would disrupt the flow

>>712975310
You wot m8 ? Aside from nonexistent optimisation all their games were good to fantastic.
>Wo long - best Sekirolike and reinvents parry combat
>Stranger of Paradise - arguably best final fantasy in 20 years and objectively has best class selection since FFTA.
>Rise of Ronin - surprisingly neat open world, historical autism and great combat