The new RDR II remaster will also include the following additions:
>60FPS on PS5 and some slight graphical improvements.
>New games - Liar's Dice and Cribbage.
>Blackwater Ferry has fast travel to St Denis, Annesburg and Guarma.
>Chapter 5 expanded to with 5 additional missions.
>A prologue has been added and it starts right in Blackwater where they're camped right in town. Arthur and Hosea are running some scam in the shack right by camp. The new prologue consists of 7 missions, last one being the escape to the Grizzlies.
>Epilogue has 5 additional missions too.
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>>712977172 (OP)i just want a fucking duster in story mode that doesnt' look like a blanket stolen from a hobo. the ones from online ported will do.
>>712977590for comparison this is the duster from story mode. they made all coats ugly in story mode so they will get you to play online, because they know everyone will want to look an outlaw badass.
By your cpu needs 12 cores to run it now
>A prologue has been added and it starts right in Blackwater where they're camped right in town. Arthur and Hosea are running some scam in the shack right by camp. The new prologue consists of 7 missions, last one being the escape to the Grizzlies.
be neat if it had the cut eliza stuff, they changed her to die way before the game though so guess not
>>712977172 (OP)you pulled this shit from your ass but
>Epilogue has 5 additional missions too.i just wanna go back to mehico. it's already in the game but it's empty.
>>712977172 (OP)>"Remaster" a game that looks better than most games coming out now>Make the prologue that was already way too fucking long even longer>Add a bit of bullshit that most people probably won't even touchOP is making this up but it's probably spot on too
>>712977172 (OP)lol yeah right, there's no way they're lifting the veil on the blackwater massacre
>>712978340That's obvious bait for if they ever do a 3rd game (Which would be another prequel) but with all the Rockstar devs leaving who gives a shit
>>712977172 (OP)Hard Pass
They killed RDR2 Online
>>712977172 (OP)Is chapter 5 the Guarma part?
>>712977923>they changed her to die way before the game though so guess notIIRC it was just a couple voice lines about him coming home to find them dead, always a chance they could update them
Doubt they'd ever bring the frozen baby stuff back though
this game is so fucking boring
>>712977828And then they proceed to make online as lame and kiked as possible making people not want to play.
>>712977172 (OP)I thought this game came out years ago, why are you trying to sell it now?
>>712977828>they made all coats ugly in story mode so they will get you to play onlineThe dusters in story mode suck but I don't think anyone's ever said "I'm gonna play RDR2 online so I can get a really cool coat"
>>712977172 (OP)What remaster? The game is still ahead visually if you compare it with other modern open world slop. It literally doesnt need one
>>712978670it was me, I said that
>>712978719most games don't really need remasters, there's a few that benefit from them but the main reason they exist is cause they want to resell the game at full price again but they actually need to somewhat justify it
>>712977172 (OP)How old is red dead 2? I want this industry to crash and burn and every single retard that buy shit like this to die too.
>>712978719It's just a shameless cashgrab. Remasters are always just there to double up on profit because consumers are fucking retarded.
>>712979593I think it's like 7 years old at this point.
>>712978719Itโs just so they can charge almost full price again
>>712977172 (OP)>bump up the graphics a little bit, still not as high a the PC version>60 fps lmao>some bullshit nobody will care about>that will be $60 plus tip
>>712979737I bet you they will charge more for it than the original RDR2. Expect it to cost 80 goybucks at the very least.
>>712978529 Yes, but I' not there yet.
>>712977172 (OP)I just don't care. RDR2 was boring as shit and I have no desire to ever touch it again. I genuinely prefer the writing in a Tales game to that slop.
>>712978957Fair enough man it's not worth subjecting yourself to that though
>>712977828The blue coat is by far the best
Two gay cowboys eating pudding
>>712978340I just finished the new prologue and got to the Blackwater Massacre part and it was sorta disappointing.
Arthur and Hosea aren't with the gang when the shit goes down. They just hear the bullets flying, so they pack up the caravan (the camp is in my screenshot) to get the hell out of dodge. Then Dutch and the rest of the gang later catches up to them in Tall Trees.
Then there's a whole chase up to the Grizzlies until the Pinkertons get taken out by an avalanche which was pretty wild.
>>712977172 (OP)How to fix the game:
>Rework all missions by allowing more leerway without instant game over>reduce meddling with player invetory, stop forcibly switching weapons or focring certain ones into your inv>fully rework guarma, make it an actual hub with visitable locations and sidequests>add more epilogue missions in mexico>port all equipment from online into SP so you can actually buy shit with all your money
>>712978719still only 30 fps on "modern" consoles, not touching that shit.
t. 3090 owner
>>712977828>they made all coats ugly in story mode so they will get you to play onlineYeah and they failed. If they got anyone with brains they should cater more to SP fans than online fans, online gamers will accept any kind of slop they serve and they can even steal content away from them and they won't mind.
>>712980654fuck yeah. i'd totally rock one irl if it wasn't for the autism
>>712977172 (OP)Didn't that game just come out a few years ago?
>>712984748I'm afraid it's been... 7 years
>>712984894...and that warrants a remaster?
>>712984965I don't know, I just answered your faggot ass question.
>>712985002Well the truth is that I already had the fucking answer, and it's NO.
>>712977172 (OP)>delay playing the game because it still hasn't gotten an fps patch 5 years after the ps5 was released>bite the bullet in March and have to suffer through the 30 fps and slow pace after playing 60 fps action games exclusively>right after reaching the last chapter I learn that they are actually launching the fps patchfuck me I guess
More than a remaster, an indian cash grab slop just like every other remaster
>>712984894Time really fucking flies doesn't it.
>>712985070T-then why ask the fucking question to begin with?
>>712985073don't worry, you will enjoy it more on your second playthrough. on your first play you are too stressed not to get spoilered and the distinction between story and free roam is not quite as clear to you. best chapters to free roam are 2 and 3
rdr2 is perfectly fine at 30 fps because of how weighty everything feels.
>>712977172 (OP)redpill me on this game please - I hear that it's either a 10/10 wholesome chungus goty western with an amazing story or an overrated simulator sacrificing gameplay for the sake of articial realism in an empty world filled with shitty story missions
>>712987395It's pretty good, and a really good western story, now it ain't perfect but nothing really is
>>712987395The characters have modern values and sentiments forced into them which doesn't really suit the time period.
>>712977172 (OP)so it has more cutscenes?
>>712987395>amazing storythis is the biggest meme of all times
its about a piece of shit killer too lazy to work, who gets scared at the last moments of his life and starts moralfagging
>>712987780I wish we had the option to avoid the coof. You could still kill of Arthur at the end some other way but being forced to get sick even when you know it's coming just sucks.
>>712980269So why the fuck did you comment if you don't care? :D
apparently arthur got TB from that dude coughing blood on him during the story, I didn't learn that till a bit after I finished the game. Did you guys know that?
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Boring ass game with terrible aiming that feels like you're moving your cursor through molasses just so you use the shitty overpowered deadeye meter.
>>712987395The story missions can be a bit on-rails and you'll definitely feel restricted sometimes but they're worth it in order to experience the story. Great characters and acting combined with a mostly great plot
The open world is NOT empty in the slightest. There are hundreds of random encounters and locations to find, along with tons of hunting and fishing and flower picking if you're into that shit.
Does anybody even know what "empty" means anymore? RDR2 and the last two Zelda games have ruined open world games for me with how well they do exploration.
Still makes all Nu games feel outdated 7 years later.
>>712990810>Its not empty, you can pick flowers and cut grass
>>712977172 (OP)Augh! I just finished playing the game for the first time. Iโm in the epilogue right now.
>>712977172 (OP)>Blackwater prologue>Not show the shit heist that turned dutch into what he is
>>712977172 (OP)Just give us Undead Nightmare 2 or some Alien Invasion Wild Wild West already!
>>712992938We've already had undead nightmare so i'd rather have the alien invasion.
>>712977172 (OP)>60fps on ps5are you telling me it couldn't make 60fps originally?
fucking lmao
>>712978719They never updated rdr 2 to run at higher framerates for ps5/xbox and its an easy way to milk more money
>>712994973Game was too advanced for the PS4 to run 60fps. Still ran and looked better than 2077 on PC though. Rockstar magic.
>>712977172 (OP)>>A prologue has been added and it starts right in Blackwater where they're camped right in town. Arthur and Hosea are running some scam in the shack right by camp. The new prologue consists of 7 missions, last one being the escape to the Grizzlies.The whole point of the story is we never see what happened in the Blackwater heist, (you)r personal interpretation of Dutch is meant to be the answer.
>>712980269Yeah. The fact that they make you sit through retarded repetitive drawn out animations even for shit as boring as crafting a bunch of bullets is proof that it's a game designed primarily to waste your time. The outlaw stuff should be the most engaging part of the open world but it is so jank, poorly designed, and ignored by the devs that it isn't even slightly fun. Commit a crime in the middle of the wilderness and get mobbed by hordes of infinite spawning lawmen with X-ray vision until you die or get on a horse and ride away, how exciting.
>>712995475This. Not everything has to be outright shown in story telling. Letting the player pick up the pieces and paint a picture on their own is respecting their intelligence.
>>712990810The story is the worst part of the game. The open world and side missions are the meat of the gameplay. It sucks ass and was written by faggots and every mission is shoot the guy now think about how hard it is to be a murderous criminal with a heart of gold wow such conflict. The only story missions that I even remember are the getting drunk in valentine one which was memorable and fantastic and the unskippable tuberculosis mission that telegraphed to me exactly how the story ends by being the one extortion mission you HAVE to do.
>>712995475Dogshit this isnt a book or film its a videogame
>>712987395>an empty worldRDR2 has the liveliest world, with tons of interesting things to discover, and the most sophisticated NPC simulation system (and animals too!), with countless random events happening around you at all times. I still remember getting out of the bar in Rhodes and seeing a guy beat his wife behind it. I didn't stop him, women need to know their place. He ended up beating her more violently and drowning her in a horse trough. He killed her right in front of me and told me to fuck off if I wanted to do something about it. I didn't, and he angrily left. A couple of days later, when I visited the town again, the sheriff was hanging him in front of a small crowd. Public hangings actually happen from time to time in the game. I remember they hanged a prostitute in Valentine too. But I was more interested in a stray cat sitting under the scaffold.
Holy shit, nigger, name me a single game with such intricate details and an unthinkable amount of handcrafted content. I dare you to do it! You can't. You can LIVE in the world of RDR2 if you actually love interactive games, not faggot zoomer shit for retards
>an amazing storyIt's good enough
>sacrificing gameplayAYEEEE I CAN'T SURF AND JUMP AND QUICKSCOPE WHILE INSPECTING MY KNIFE WHILE WATCHING SUBWAY SURFERS GAMEPLAY AYEEEEE
Only retarded zoomers say that
The game is filled to the brim with gameplay mechanics and minigames
The morality system should be removed from these games because it tries to railroad you into playing a certain way.
>nothing about making wolf encounters less annoying/common
>>712997785yup ending its railroaded even in first game even tho redempetion makes more sense than getting tuberculosis and realice you re a retard instead of raising a family like john
>>712997785>it tries to railroad you into playing a certain wayThe fuck are you talking about? Certanly not about RDR2. Morality changes how Arthur acts and speaks in some scenarios. And the ending scene changes too a bit. You can do whatever the whole game, it doesn't try to "railroad" you into anything
>>712977172 (OP)>Another useless update just to break mods again
>>712997903learn to shoot and hear john
>>712998004i dont want to stop and shoot them i just want to keep riding
>>712997949the ending scene change if arthur dies like george floyd without police abuse or micah rapes him with a knife execution
>be me, rockstar
>old game is artificially capped at 30 fps on modern consoles
>refuse to put out a simple patch to uncap the frame rate on my game
>instead "remaster" the game so that players will need to pay $80 again for what is essentially a patch that uncaps the artificially capped frame rate
What a bunch of fucking scumbags
>>712998109so dont buy it faggot
pirate it on your PC
>>712998109pirate pc version online its dead
>>712977172 (OP)>Source: My gaping anusSure bud.
>>712977828I prefer the story duster. Its thin and practical. Instead of heavy and tryhard.
But ye, online was a mistake, should have just went ALL in on the single player
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>>712977172 (OP)>60FPS on PS5>on a 2018 game
>>712998109>consolefagging in 2016+9
>>712998101The fuck are you even babbling about, pedro?
>>712998576>on a 2018 gameThis 2018 game looks better than most new games btw
>>712996361I didn't commit a single crime and just played missions and had the time of my life. It's a great game. /v/ is full of contrarians.
Kingdom Come: Deliverance is better than RDR2
>>713000808>lobotomite satisfied by 20 hours of cover shooter gameplaybreaking news morons love mass appeal schlock thanks for letting us know
The coolest thing to happen to me in this game was randomly finding the cabin where the UFO shines its light on. Surprised the shit out of me
Just bought the game on Steam, do I refund or will I get the remaster for free?
>>712977172 (OP)Nice, I'll watch the extra missions on youtube and won't buy the game.
>>713001126Name your top 5 games
ill only get it if theres a cheap upgrade option for those who have the original, and it better have an expanded wardrobe, the voice actor for john seems hyped about something so im expecting there will be some more missions in the epilogue, if so that would be cool, undead nightmare 2 better be included too otherwise i wont even bother
>>713001612Europa Barbarorum 2
Combat Mission 2: Barbarossa to Berlin
Morrowind
Europa Universalis 4
Red Orchestra 2
>>712977172 (OP)Bullshit, but I want to believe you.
>>712977172 (OP)source on that, sister?
>>712998109>year of our lord 25>still doesn't know that consolecucks are called that for a reason.are you that dense bro?
>>712977172 (OP)Did they really made zero gameplay changes? Dropped this garbage because riding kept unequipping all my side arms, which made annoying as fuck getting into quick shotouts. Also fuck patrols spamming dogs.
>>712977828Buy a shotgun coat, idiot
>OP makes shit up
>provides no sauce
>anons believe it
>that sweet sweet dopamine hit from (You)s
>>712999000>>713003291>it's ok that the massive corporation scams the poors because they're poorImagine bootlicking to this degree
They should have remastered RDR1 properly, even if it was just higher res textures and updated models for the characters
>>712977172 (OP)>Epilogue gets EVEN LONGERLOL
>>712987395Its really pretty , basic but serviceable, hunting game with a plot on the side.
The only way I would be interested in a "remaster" this soon is if they add the following content:
>Finish the RDR1 map (add Mexico)
>Port RDR1 campaign into the RDR2 engine and have the end of RDR2's story run almost seamlessly into the first game's story. Maybe add an extra mission of John and his family getting captured by Edgar Ross.
>Port Undead Nightmare into the RDR2 engine.
>Give us Undead Nightmare 2 (or some other supernatural/sci-fi equivalent) with wacky stuff to find and do across both RDR2's map add well as RDR1's map.
>>713003448>poorPS5 is way more expensive than a PC tho.
I will never play 2 ever again despite thinking it was an okay game.
>>712977828lol the online mode was mostly focused around giving retarded bling to niggers and edgy stuff for spics
why do spics love wearing skulls and stupid edgy crap
my god i hate brown "people"
>>712998842โข is made by holding alt and typing 0153 on numpad
>>713007430>mumpadsNobody uses them anymore.
>>713007689by everybody you mean braindead shitskinned zoomers
>>71300775760% is the optimum keyboard size. It isn't the 80's anymore where you need a billion keys across a huge space because the cpu is potato. 60% with layers is considerably more effective for speed and accuracy.
>>713006819>PS5 is way more expensive than a PC tho.A PC costs $5000 retard nigger
>>713008002k enjoy your normie slop for retards
>>712977172 (OP)>Game takes you all the way too the beginning of RDR 1.>Let's you finish Sadie Adlers`s storyline because of it.>Open World post-1907 with more side missions.
>>713008575God i hate Sadie so much it's unreal. Worst character in the game by far.
>>713008783Arthur should have tapped that.
>>712977172 (OP)>CribbageColor me intrigued
>>713009246You just know she's crazy.
>>713008723>Dutch starts killing people with little justification>"Now Dutch, you always told me revenge was a fool's game. You're slippin Dutch...">Sadie goes ballistic and kills a bunch of O'Driscolls at their leaders execution>"Got dammit Sadie!" "Well, I'll catch ya later then"
>>713009870O'Driscolls aren't people.
>>713009951y'know gameplay and narrative wise you're pretty much right
Still, it rubbed me the wrong way that Dutch being a loose cannon is treated (reasonably) like a bad thing but when Sadie does it it's apparently no big deal
>walk into saloon
>some dude hunched over a beer
>woman storms in
>for gods sake, timothy, you said you weren't drinking no more with the new baby being born and all-
>leave me alone, woman
>AND YET I FIND YOU HERE AG-
>LEAVE ME
>woman grabs man trying to pull him away
>struggle
>smack
>I TOLD YOU TO LEAVE ME ALONE!
>woman sitting on the floor crying
>barkeep buts in
>good god, timmy, get her out of here. you're causing a scene.
>timmy yanks her arm up and leads her out of the saloon
>2 dudes in the general store standing at the register next to the clerk
>one of them talking to clerk
>so looking at your tab here, john, it's quite the bill-
>yeah i know, but i got a good feeling this time! i swear!
>you're 33.50 in the hole...
>it's not my fault those ungodly chinks took over the mine!
>yes, but you still have to pay.
>please, just one more chance. you know i'm good for it!
>that's the thing, i know you're not. the only reason i even agreed to let you run a tab was because your father pulled that stinking drunk mexican off me 20 years ago.
>...i just-
>listen why don't you come around this evening after closing and we work out something?
>train station
>2 cops 1 woman arguing
>calm down, young missy, breathe and start over
>alright, so i was standing over there at the news stand waiting for the 3:10 to yuma when this... darker fellow approached me
>he was rather well spoken for a freed man, you might even say well mannered
>something about needing help with his daughter having some lady issues in the rest room
>and when i turned around my bag was gone and the man was running away!
>so, you're saying the nigger distracted you while someone grabbed your luggage?
>that's right! i can't believe it! we give them the gift of freedom and that's how they repay our generosity!
>can you describe the man a little bit better? for the wanted poster and all
That is the kind of shit that i was expecting from RDR. Not a world and society that is more progressive than the 1980s.
>>713008575>>713009870>"Well, I'll catch ya later then"
>>712993560I want it all. Zombies pouring in from New Austin and West Elizabeth, Vampires in Saint Denis, Wendigo's and Skinwalkers in Big Valley and the Grizzlies, alien's invading in between it all.
>>712977172 (OP)>Chapter 5 expanded to with 5 additional missions.How cool. The shittiest part of the game now takes longer to get through.
>>713008575Means that Sadie, Charles, Pearson,etc are done for too if they indeed do it post 1907, Will john come after Tilly and the rest of the girls?
>>713010469>go wild with cryptid and supernatural mythos references alongside the usual zombiesI'm all for it.
I disbanded my superior arabian because i thought itd give the option to sell but it just fucking deleted it. If they could give me my horse back or the gold i spent hours grinding for then thatd be awesome.
Fix the fucking economy as well it sucks dick. I cant believe how quick they abandoned online.
All the billions they make and they cant assign a skeleton crew to keep online alive and thus increase the player base? No just fucking give up after a few months. Money grubbing cunts.
>>712977172 (OP)this game came out less than 10 years ago and still looks better than half the games released in AAA
wtf
>>712978490All it needed was a robust homestead mode so you had something to work towards with all the money/resources you got playing.
>>713003448My old beater with an R9 280 can run RDR2 at 40fps and it cost 500 bucks 10 years ago. Exactly how fucking poor are you motherfucker?
>>713012151>playing a rockstar online service game Are you retarded? Or just Indian?
>>712978670Yall yeehaw cornseed lookin mother fuckers just need to git gud at hunting and visit the trapper
>mfw all I need to find are muscrats, moose and a woodpeckerFuck.
>>713010092Because Sadie is a mary Sue.
>>713008723Arthur gooning for her the entire time was cringe as fuck.
>murder 69,420 innocent men and women>$9001 bounty everywhere>bear poor people so hard he caught tb>"aww shucks! Sadie saved me! I hope i dont ever make HER mad!"Holy shit. Unreal.
>>713012537This guy gets it. I didn't spend all that time genociding half the animal kingdom not to wear it.
>>713012880Arthus spawning like a hunderd bears on that poor family was pretty crazy ngl. I can't believe they kept that in the story.
>>713008783>>713009661Sex with Sadie's butt.
>herd cows
>โya done herding cows yet cowboy?โ
>yes
>time for bed
>wake up
>โguess we should herd these cowsโ
>>712977172 (OP)i just did another playthrough of this. so now they want me to pay $60 for a few new missions?
>>713013176OP is a faggot
>>713013169Ya done herding cows yet cowboy?
How does this game compare to the first /v/? I have both but I haven't played too much RDR2 yet since I have too big of a back catalogue to get through.
>>713012939>this recipe requires cow leather>the recipe requires pig leatherHigh honor Arthur is gay
>>713013679It's prettier but desu rockstar has been kind of stagnant with its sequels since GTAIV. The open world relies too heavily on the hunting meme desu. At some point when it first came out I realized that I had spent 30 hours running around waiting for uncommon pelts to spawn to get a jacket and just quit and went for a walk and didn't pick it up for another 2 years to finish the story lol.
>>713013987>halfway through slaughtering emerald ranch livestock>some fag starts crying and says they're gonna go tell the sheriff>chase them down, hogtie them and throw them on the train tracks >go back to slaughtering livestockIt's a simple life.
>>713008238no it doesn't you giganigger, not one on the same performance as a cucksole.
>>713010271Man I was extremely disappointed with Arthur not being an absolute scumbag or even the gang as a whole being more scummy except for Micah
>>713014959Micah was the only one that was written like a time accurate outlaw. The rest were hippie posers. The Vanderlinde gang was a joke.
>>713013679RDR2 is cowboy simulator. It's way too slow and tedious for me and the missions are extremely on rails.
Better off watching a bunch of old Westerns from the 60s and 70s.
>>713014346>loot the wrong body>DONG>shoot cattle>DONG>shoot pig>DONG>bump into someone too hard on the horse>DONG>kill someone shooting me because I stood too close>THATS A BIG DONGIm never doing high honor again.
>>713014275From the little I played the physics and shooting are definitely top notch. The graphics as well as the facial animations during dialogue is also top notch stuff. I will eventually get around to it. I always feel like after the PS2 era Rockstar's games are carried very hard on presentation and their game engine which makes the shooting and physics of their games kino. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are the most fun games out there. They almost seem too good in a weird way at the cost of just going for pure fun factor if that makes sense.
I remember telling my friend this last time we were playing games. I was telling him how with Bloodborne I feel I can easily pick it up, play it, the game is faster pace and like immediately fun. Meanwhile a Rockstar game seems to take time to get into as in its "fun" but not immediately so. Almost similar to a JRPG. It takes time for it to start clicking that their games are "good" so hope I made sense there.
>>713015819Honor is lame. You should be free to do what you want in an open world game.
>>713015797>Better off watching a bunch of old Westerns from the 60s and 70s.RDR2 is so removed from spaghetti westerns it might as well be another genre
>>713015949I played my first time as low honor and found out you get different cutscenes with high. It wasn't worth it.
>WOAH ITS A DEER INSTEAD OF A COYOTE WOAH GUYSThe cannon play thru is low honor until the diagnosis and then high honor until the end desu senpai
Hell yes, an even longer prologue!
>>713016440RDR is the closest you will ever get to a spaghetti western in a game. Italian directors led a massive shift in focus in the genre from slick Hollywood do-no-wrong American folk heroes fighting for objective good to violence, dark themes, morally questionable protagonists, and a shift to slow art house style pacing and cinematography. RDR2 couldn't even exist without spaghetti westerns. Spaghetti westerns did to westerns what Seinfeld did to sitcoms, it's literally the Genesis of the modern western. Are you blind, son? What a dumb take.
>>712977172 (OP)>60FPSIt was less than that before? Lmao
>>713017278I fucking love spaghetti westerns, I can't stand the type of western RDR2 is
RDR1 is more tolerable but it still doesn't have that spaghetti feeling
>>713017278nah it needs that andalusian setting and the psychedelic 60s zaniness to be a real spaghetti western
>>712977172 (OP)Why though
>>712978340They don't really have to since Arthur and Hosea were doing their own thing. If it's not bullshit, the most I'd say they do is
>Arthur and Hosea doing their thing>Suddenly hear gunshots, chaos breaks out>Run over to see what the fuck is happening, only finding the rest of the gang after they got off the boat>Escape
>>712978719Because people will buy it. Last of Us didn't need two separate remasters but got it anyway
Since when has GTA 5 had a legacy and enhanced version on Steam?
>>713013572No, the cycle repeated until I was done playing forever
>>712977172 (OP)Not a chance in hell, if they did do a remaster it would just be slightly better graphics and adding the few guns online had into the single player, like the LeMat revolver.
>>713017278Stagecoach (1939) had morally grey protagonists. the magnificient seven was also an inspiration to the italians, and it was inspired by samurai movies that were in turn inspired by even earlier westerns.
>>712977828quite opposite
>>713017560The getting drunk in valentine mission had more zaniness in it than most Leone films. There's also the wildlife photographer and other funny side missions, plus the random shit like ghosts and zombies and monks and treasure hunts and giants and other weird miscellania. The only thing it's really missing is a period soundtrack. Obviously it's not 1:1 to OUATITW, it's a video game, but it's all there.
>>712980178>$100 + tipFtfy
>>712987780>piece of shit killer too lazy to work>moralfaggingLmao
>>713015819Yeah the honor system is dumb but really most morality systems are shit. Rather they just get replaced with a reputation instead. Fallout NV had the right idea of using that over the karma system most of the time
>>713018232Yeah I didn't say they invented morally grey characters. But they were the fad that finally popularized all those features and changed the genre. Stagecoach and 7, though great, are both clearly old guard studio movies that don't approach anything close to the subversion of the Italian directors. Look at the movies that came out in 67/66 alongside TGTBTU. Noone except my dad remembers any of them because they're mostly trite movies from a genre that was dying.
>>712978719console users often have to buy a remaster version for 60fps kek