>"Competitive" community
>90% filled with shitters trying to LARP as the top 10% of players
>Actively resists participating in scrims that are off meta because they think it'll make them worst at the meta
>Stagnates for 10 years
>One sided beef with the "casual community"
>Casual community regularly forgets they exist because they're so irrelevant to the game as a whole
>This is inspite of youtubers constantly trying to shill their formats
>Trying to hype themselves up as "the next Melee" back when Smash Bros was all the rage
>The one time the devs listen to them they pushed out some of the worst weapon balance changes in the game's history
>Use the devs ignoring them in the future to "proof" they had nothing to do with the rebalances
>"B-but also those rebalances are actually good y-you know! You just need the intelligence of a competitive player to understand them!!!"
Is there any other competitive scene as obnoxious to keep up with as TF2's?

>>712981251 (OP)
I don't mind them because I forget they fucking exist, lmao. I just play on screamfortress 2fort 24/7.

valve would have made bad balance changes with or without them.

tf2 is a great example of bad casual community because holy christ do they shit and whine for a group of people who is all about "having fun"

>mfw using reverted Reserve shooter on castaway
Deleting pyro players has never been this fun before

>>712981251 (OP)
i have only seen casual players get mad at the existence of comp players, almost all comp players play casual because you cant play comp 24/7 like casual. also still blaming comp players on weapons being rebalanced is retarded because jill made those decisions on his own and then ignored all feedback during the mym betas. i also dont get the bemoaning of the rebalancing either, the only thing i can think of is the amby being a bit too weak, but it still out damages stock close-medium range if you can consistently hit headshots. i'd legit rather just be stuck with no item servers then have the 2014 era item balance where everyone was using the same unlocks because they were straight up better than stock

For fifteen years, TF2 has had some of the biggest pussies making videos crying about how x is broken or how y needs a buff.

>>712981479
I doubt the B.A.S.E. Jumper would have ever been nerfed if it wasn't for Roamers crying about how it could make you miss an airshot.

>>712981902
Sniper is broken and pyro needs a buff yeah

>>712981251 (OP)
Smash Bros Melee has a horrible community. Infested with trannies and still require COVID vaccination at certain tournaments

>>712981251 (OP)
didnt smash kill a guy recently?