And why is it so fucking easy? Unlimited continues? Permanent HP upgrades? A body armor that halves all damage effectively doubling your HP? 4 (FOUR) sub-tanks that fill your HP to full, effectively giving you 15+ health bars with the body armor and HP upgrades? Ridiculously strong weapons that one-shot mobs? Bosses that die in like 5 seconds while you just facetank when you use their weapon weakness? Almost non-existent platforming?

Who the fuck asked for this? Why did we just remove all fucking challenge or skill from the game and make a mindless fucking hold right game? Who is this game designed for exactly?

>>713002254 (OP)
The Zero series games are the only good Mega Man games worth playing.

>>713002254 (OP)
>it's another /v/ shits on one of the best games of all time because le hecking contrarianism and irony poisoning so we cant be genuine anymore episode.
Kill yourself

>>713002618
Mega Man was always overrated as fuck

MMX is just the most easy, braindead, accessible, casualized entry so no shit all the casual faggots love it

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTmQ56Rtzqc

>>713002254 (OP)
Mega Man 1&2 are the only legitimate games in the series. The rest can all eat a dick.

>>713002254 (OP)
Me

>>713002254 (OP)
it was made to be a game
not to extract quarters

i can't disagree with it being easy since this is my first video game memory and i beat it when i was 5 (though it did take me a lot of effort and time)
but it's not egregiously easy like you're saying, contrarian piece of shit. kill yourself op

>>713002254 (OP)

>>713005169
4 sub-tanks + body armor + heart pieces + weapon strong against boss is at least 50x easier than one health bar + no armor + buster (you deal 4x more damage and have about 15x more HP with the former)

It's insanely unbalanced and just lazy RPG crap game design for retards

>>713005692
you choose to do that

>>713005169
It's stupid Simon Says shit. Find the boss weakness and just stand there in one spot peessing a single button while facetanking the boss and win with ease. It's a total joke as an action game.

>>713002254 (OP)
>And why is it so fucking easy? Unlimited continues? Permanent HP upgrades? A body armor that halves all damage effectively doubling your HP? 4 (FOUR) sub-tanks that fill your HP to full, effectively giving you 15+ health bars with the body armor and HP upgrades? Ridiculously strong weapons that one-shot mobs? Bosses that die in like 5 seconds while you just facetank when you use their weapon weakness? Almost non-existent platforming?

You're describing X4, not X1

X1 is a relatively easy game, but it's not the cakewalk you're describing it as, especially for people who aren't familiar with the genre. Try X2, it has better difficulty balancing and is generally the better game.

>>713002254 (OP)
It's Mega Man for babies. Mega Man 1 is the only classic Mega Man worth a shit

>>713002382
No they're not you retard. All of them suffer from screen crunch, jank ass enemy placement, and terrible level design.

>>713006636
>screen crunch
This only applies to games ported to GBA and the screen is crunched to fit. Mega Man Zero games were designed for the GBA screen

>jank ass enemy placement
Zoomer buzzwords

>terrible level design
Far better than Mega Man X's braindead levels where you just hold right to win.

The main appeal of Zero is the combat and bossfights, which are miles ahead of anything in classic or X

>>713005984
Eru.

>>713006923
>Enemy placement is a buzzword
>Having the entire game on one fucking map is better level design than hold right to win which you're doing anyway but instead with leaps of faith
Retarded frogposters being Zerofags doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

>>713007142
Each mission has its own unique location, theme, hazards, enemies, and bosses. Who gives a fuck if the world is technically connected in the overworld outside of missions?

>>713007356
>Who gives a fuck if the world is technically connected in the overworld outside of missions?
Because it fucking isn't, the entire game's map is. Retard.

>>713007009
エールエロ

>>713007440
Again, retard, why is that a negative?

Stage design:
Classic > Zero > X

Weapons and combat:
Zero > X > classic

Bossfights
Zero >>>>>>>>> X > classic

>>713002254 (OP)
There are too many different forms of HP upgrades in the game, it works better if you don't use the subtanks

>>713007753
Because it isn't good level design, idiot.

>>713007885
Just shut up already you fucking retard.

>>713008218
Go back to plebbit if you want an echo chamber, retard frogposter.

>>713008347
>It's bad because it le... JUST IS!!!
Kill yourself autistic retard

>>713008503
No, retard. It's bad because those issues and many more make it bad. If you're a grown man unironically throwing a tantrum like this, you're the one who should kill themselves. If you're a kid then your dumbass shouldn't be posting here.

>>713006923
>Mega Man Zero games were designed for the GBA screen
And yet they still have leaps of faith. Perfect example is the stage from Zero 2 where you're primarily traversing by jumping from airship to airship. There are several instances where you just kinda have to jump and trust because you can't see where the next airship is.

>>713008678
>"those issues"
>such as interconnected world with segmented levels bad because... it just is
>"and many more"
>which I won't name, just uhhhh... know they exist
Fuck off and kill yourself autismo freak

>>713002254 (OP)
stopped reading at mid.
you're actually retarded.
>>713002382
>frog poster being even more retarded than OP
not even surprising.

>>713008867
That's not a leap of faith, you can see it if you position properly.

Would it have been better at 240p? Absolutely. Does the platforming and combat still work very well and it's still by far the best Mega Man? Absolutely

It is a shame though that the best games in the series were developed on weak hardware with a low res screen and limited inputs

>>713008980
Again, they're not interconnected, retard and I did name them at least a small handful. If I were to name all of Megaman Zero's issues, I'd be here all day. Either way, dumb fucking frogposter as always.

>>713009227
>If you ever so slightly continue edging to the right of the screen you can just barely see the next platform
Not sure what you were cooking with that one chef

>>713009337
It's really not that hard at all buddy, it's what's known as a skill issue.

>get called a pathetic retard and laughed out of /vr/
>run back to /v/ to make the same thread
Lol

>>713007753
take your meds, grandpa.

>>713009414
Right "skill issue" in a game with "depth" like this

>>713009227
>>713009414
Are you fucking dense? There are multiple instances where the next airship is BELOW YOU and you have no ability to scroll the camera down to see it. You have to jump and then course correct midair the second you see it appear or else you fall into the void and die. You can't even wall cling to the ship and slide down far enough to see it. And even in your case where you say "just slowly inch your way to the right until you can just barely see a few pixels of the next ship", that's still poor design because it grinds what is intended to be a fast paced action platforming experience to a halt for no good reason. I'm not even saying the Zero games are bad but to say they are perfect and that they don't suffer screen crunch is a bold faced lie.

>>713002254 (OP)
So what's a good platformer?

>>713009529
Almost every action game in existence has looping/juggling if you are able to get a boss in an exact spot and spam a specific move with precise timing.

You are a zoomer dumbfuck.

>>713009910
>what is object permanence
>how dare I have to actually adjust my jump to account for new information
Again, skill issue. Stick to babygames like Mega Man X where the platforms are large, slow, and predictable

>>713009990
Mega Man X is barely even a platformer. It's closer to an action game or even bossrush than anything.

>>713010025
>Almost every action game in existence has looping/juggling if you are able to get a boss in an exact spot and spam a specific move with precise timing.
Not only do they not at least the goods they don't have fans trying to pass off their poor design as an intended "combo" mechanic lmao
The zoomer trying to give me history revisionism on whether the Zero series was good or not is calling me a zoomer that's funny

>>713010196
Okay, what's a good platformer?

>>713010196
>or even bossrush than anything.
No, that's Zero 3. It's just a bossrush game.

>>713002254 (OP)
It's not meant to be hard, it's the first game in a new series. X2 is harder, and X3 is harder still.
If you want challenge from MMX then speedrun it, it's one of the most based speedgames with very few trannies in the scene. In any% you get none of the upgrades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olUxecVVBPM

>>713010221
DMC, NG, Streets of Rage, Capcom beat em ups all have numerous boss juggles you zoomer dumbfuck.

corruptionbros...

>>713010732
I'm convinced at this point the game is one elaborate hoax by one Mexican dude. All of the footage you see is actually made in windows movie maker, even the streams.

>>713010115
It ISN'T skill, you dumb fuck. That's the point. Once you have seen where the platform is, you know where to jump and don't have the problem again. If it's your first time playing the game or it has been years since you last touched it and you don't have a perfect photo memory of the stage layout, you're not gonna have any idea where to jump and will probably die on your first attempt just to see it. That's not skill because no such skill exists that will allow you to know where that platform was beforehand outside of prior knowledge. That's why it's a fucking leap of faith and you're a disingenuous retard.

>>713003484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mLajpEt_ZE

>>713010924
Oh, you're one of those zoomer dumbfucks who thinks any bit of memo is bad and games should be cinematic babygames that are designed and balanced so that a first time player can easily react and overcome everything.

Yes, doing that jump helps with doing it in the future, the same as every platforming or combat challenge in existence. Do you cry and shit your diaper when a boss uses an attack for the first time without pulling out a whiteboard and explaining what the attack is first?

>>713002254 (OP)
You people are such a sad bunch of faggots.

1) You are probably talking shit anyways just for (you)'s
2) The game is very old being among some of the earliest action platformers on the SNES (THE SNES!)
3) I would hope at this point tons of games released since then that expanded upon the idea or improved it

But guess what? MMX still remains one of the greatest games ever made today. Because games do not age and because your bait is soft meaningless crap.

The game has a built in hard mode, it's called not picking up every fucking upgrade, you moron. Try beating Launch Octopus with no dash and base health and tell me how easy it is.

>>713011942
In cases like this, I'd rather hear what might be a good game in OP's opinion. I can get finding MMX easy, but what sort of expectations does OP have? Because even as far as more difficult platformers go, you can go various ways.

>>713011989
I find Spark Mandrill to be the more challenging one without upgrades, because dealing with his dash punch can get dicey. With Launch Octopus you're mostly trying to keep your distance so you are decent bit away when he does the spinnaroo tornado. It also helps with destroying or dodging his projectiles before they can hit you.

>>713011989
>bro sesame street is so hard when you go for WR speedrun

>>713013157
Choosing Launch Octopus stage first and having to fight him with base X is something that can happen to anyone playing the game, not some crazy self imposed challenge, retard. That's how Mega Man's open handed nature always worked, difficulty can vary wildly depending on your tools at any given point. Elec Man stage is balls hard done first, but trivial if you have Cut Man weapon.

>>713013593
>woah this is hard when I do it the complete wrong way like a retard
>Dark Souls is so hard when I unequip all my items and go straight to blight town!!
Dumbass

>>713013893
>I'm a shitposting retard and nobody can stop me!
Keep it up idiot.