>“We did of course consider the addition of new jobs, abilities, and characters—including the jobs featured in War of the Lions. However, the original version of Final Fantasy Tactics is a very complete game both from a game design and story perspective. If we were to make major changes, it would only be a loss for not only fans of the original game, but also those new to the title."
>"With this in mind, our first step in reviving Final Fantasy Tactics in the present was to adhere to the original and put a spotlight on the original game’s characters and jobs, as well as the original gameplay experience.”
It seems the re-re-re-release includes none of the content or classes from War of the Lions or the mobile releases, but uses the localized script made for modern audiences. It is the original PSX version with the modern re-translation and nothing additional.

At this point why not just play the actual ps1 verison?

>>713009241 (OP)
I hate FFTactics but I feel bad for you fags cause they are clearly going to sell this shit as dlc.

People thought it would go unalted in 2025, lol lmao even.

>>713009241 (OP)
What a fucking awful line of thought and reasoning they are using. What the fuck is wrong with them???

just play Jeanne d'Arc instead of this tryhard slop

>>713009590
why should they release additional content for free? it can be dlc or its own remake

At least PC will be able to mod everything in.

>>713009241 (OP)
So are they adding anything new themselves? I dont remember much about WOTL aside from Balthazar or whatever his name was, was there anything else?

>>713009241 (OP)
can square enix do anything right?

I was never gonna buy it anyways

>>713009241 (OP)
>nothing additional
There is a hard mode and full voice acting as well as named characters getting more dialogue

>>713009590
Not entirely related but does anyone know why "Emergence" and "Kind of" were removed from CDRomance and Romhacking.net? It's very weird. They're the best way to play FFT by the way, specially Emergence

Tactics Advance chads win again.

>>713009906
yes they are censoring troublesome dialogue and adding a smear filter

>>713009968
Square took the devil's deal to stay afloat and now has to suffer retardation for eternity.

>>713009906
No not really. Just remastered graphics which is really just a shitty filter and new trannylation for an audience of people who never play these games.

I scoffed at this games announcement because I knew they were going to fuck this up like they did the Front Mission games.

>>713009241 (OP)
>just adds a shitty vaseline filter
>THE CREATION OF THIS WAS ARUDUOS
lmao modern devs

Onegaishimasu pay $40 for demaster!!

>>713009347
full voice acting

>>713010775
that makes it worse

>>713010775
that you will skip through because surely you can read faster than some retarded VA... right anon?

>>713011038
I would honestly prefer if every game in existed had either banjo kazooie/animal crossing babble voices. voice actors add nothing to the game for me

>>713011038
I cant connect with characters without voices

>>713009241 (OP)
>Unique Abilities for Ark Knight (Elmdore's is just a renamed Samurai)
>Has Counter in addition to Counter Tackle unlike every other unique job class
>Supports include Concentration, Safeguard, and Swiftness instead of the usual Squire supports
Were there supposed to be more plans with Zalbaag? His class is weirdly loaded compared to most other unique characters

They missed all the bonus content from the GBA and other FF ports for their Pixel Demaster bullshit, so no surprise. S-E can't do shit right.

>>713011431
read a book someday faggot, might help your brain get some wrinkles.

>>713011431
how do you read books?

>>713011610
I dont

>>713011431
can you conjure a mind apple?

>>713010024
the devs sperged

>but muh voice acting!
No doubt said by amerigolems who will use the dub lol

>>713011431
You know about these things called books?

>>713012205
nope. I only see black or darkness in my mind.

>>713009241 (OP)
Matsuno said he wanted to keep the wotl content, before he had to follow SE and edit his post.

>>713009241 (OP)
So what, no Dark Knight, Onion Knight, Balthier, and Luso? Not really a big loss since they were just kinda extras. Matsuno and others from Quest clearly felt they were superfluous and seem like they want to focus on remastering/remaking the game they created.

>>713009475
Only retards buy remakes so who cares

>>713013195
>no dark knight
>not really a big loss
I wouldn't have beat the game without crush armor and shit on cid ramza and agrias

>>713009241 (OP)
So who is this for? Any gamer who has a PC can already emulate WotL or the original. It's just confusing, who is in charge at Square?

>>713013528
Nta but dark knight requires an absurd amount of grinding I think you might just be retarded

>>713013070
>>713013195
Matsuno wanted to keep, Maehiro the director said no
https://x.com/YasumiMatsuno/status/1935129517733130657

why are japanese developers universally retarded and out of touch??

>>713009241 (OP)
How does classic work can you switch between both?

JUST PLAY THE FUCKING ORIGINAL
STOP BUYING LAZU FUCK DEMASTERS
ONLY LOW IQ RETARDS LIKE >>713010775 >>713011431 BUY THIS SHIT

>>713011431
The weak have no voice.

>>713014001
>LAZU

>>713014260
my high calorie diet fucked me again with this fat fingering

>>713014001
Tactic ogre remwaster was kino though. Same with twial if mwana dechi

>>713009590
Ego
WotL wasn't made by them so they don't want it

>>713013678
Grinding doesn't fucking matter in games with level scaling, the end gauntlet of tactics maps is retardedly difficult without dark and holy knights and cid.

>>713009241 (OP)
>now pay us $50

I hope they keep this line at least

>>713014368
Except it's the new director who doesn't want to

>>713014549
That's not real thoughbeit

That’s right goyim. It will look like shit like the VIII and IX remake too, precious goyim. Eat your slop and get niiiice and fat so we can steal from you

>>713014461
Have you even played WoTL? To get ONE dark knight you have to master two jobs, get max level in a bunch of high end jobs, and perma kill 20 units (have to wait 4 turns for them to perma die and you can get usually 4 max in one battle)

You don’t just casually end up with a dark knight in the end game

$20 dlc

>>713009968
nuYuffie's model and literally nothing else.

>>713014653
Both Matsuno and Maehiro worked on the original release, but not on WotL. And WotL content is getting cut because fuck you that's why

>>713009241 (OP)
Matsuno didn't make WotL, but he is adding roughly 60% more content to the script. I care about that more than a group of other people adding their own ideas to the story.

>>713014864
>you grinded to get end game job
>therefore...?
Yeah I looked up a fucking guide, went into a random encounter, lowered a goblins stats until it ran the fuck away, and then spammed accumulate 4000 times to get to level 99 with 4 characters, and I STILL had problems getting through the final dungeons, so I specifically leveled up the jobs that gave me dark knight.
Whats your point???
>You don't casually end up with the job therefore noone has it.
>It takes grind to unlock therefore it doesn't make anything easy.
I don't even know if you are following a train of thought at all.

>>713010775
Voice acting has never added anything to a video game, it only exists for hylic golems with no inner voice.

>>713013754
Maehiro needs to be shot in the kneecaps at this point.

>>713016045
The kind of idiots that pretend good voicework doesn't enhance a game are the kind of idiots that ask people about breakfast hypotheticals and think they're smart because of it.

>>713016373
how would you have felt if the game had voice acting?

>>713015881
I'll be honest, after seeing what he wrote for not-FFT in FFXIV I don't have high expectations

>>713016373
Voice acting has never added anything to a video game, golem.

>>713009241 (OP)
they literally don't have the source code for it.

>>713016373
>he can't imagine better voices on his own
Being a hylic sounds like Hell.

>>713009241 (OP)
Who gives a shit, Advance is the better story and Advance 2 is the better game.

>>713014674
what the fuck is with people using "thoughbeit" unless you're the same fag from all the other threads.

>>713016593
It's silly and it makes some people unreasonably angry.

>>713016563
>he can't appreciate good acting
I'd say it must be hell being such a philistine, but you don't have the self-awareness to notice how dire your situation is.

>>713014001
I wanna see the extra 60% dialogue they added though. I don't want mute Agrias and Mustadio like the original.

>>713016809
>he thinks acting enchances a VIDEO GAME
You seem confused, netflix golem. Do you think you're on /tv/?

>>713016890
>he thinks acting doesn't enhance an audio-visual medium
It's funny when you cretins pretend to be refined when in reality everyone knows the only media you consume is shitty video games.

>>713016890
When will you trogs realize that video is a synonym for movie and we just want to play movies. Movies suck because you can't interact with them. VIDEO games are the clear next step, and you're not taking advantage of the medium without stuff like voice acting

>>713017131
>>713017148
Stay on youtube and netflix where you belong. You don't even know what a video game is.

>>713017131
>>713017148
Take a hike, Kojima.

>>713009475
Meh I'll pirate it either way
Anyone paying for games post-2005 is a fucking idiot

>>713017234
I've been playing video games longer than you've been alive. Idiots that think tabletop limitations should arbitrarily be applied to games have always held gaming back and resulted in the absolute worst games.

>>713017364
I was born well before 2008, actually. Stay on youtube and netflix where you belong and stop fucking up my hobby.
>BUT DA CUTSCENES AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH VIDEO GAMES AREN'T ART BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID BOSS FIGHTS BAAWWWWWW!!!

>>713017431
That's nice, but were you born before 1990? Your ilk has always been a disease. Conflating voice acting with movie games won't help you come off as a hard core gamer.

>>713017364
>video games are being held back because they're not hollywood enough
This is modern /v/, God help me

>>713017234
I am sorry that your hobby is not going the direction it was projected to go for fucking decades and you are just now realizing it. Truly I am. You'll join the rest of the fossils on /vr/, I'm sure.

>hylic
do I need a mental software patch, I thought people said "NPC"

>>713016593
It’s a shartyism.

>>713009590
Lazy and ugly

>>713017782
The NPC thing was just modern people rediscovering the Gnostic concept of hylics.

>>713016593
tl;dr is
>some fag started calling out people ending sentences with "though"
>people started doing it to fuck with him by using "however" and "albeit"
>mutates into unholy amalgams of each word simultaneously
it's pretty funny thoughever

>>713009241 (OP)
>Pixel Remasters cut all the GBA bonus content
>Tactics Remaster cuts all the WotL content
I really don't understand it, and it's especially egregious with the PR games because Japan absolutely loved all that bonus content? Hell even in fucking XIV the newest content has the bonus jobs FROM the FFV GBA version in it and yet SE overall pretends that content doesn't exist. It's baffling behavior.

>>713009241 (OP)
>However, the original version of Final Fantasy Tactics is a very complete game both from a game design and story perspective

>complete from a story perspective

lol
lmao

>>713014674
I'm going to sentence mix him to say this as soon as the voices are ripped. Unless the voice acting is dogshit.

>>713019438
they hired a deaf man to voice all of the voice lines himself

>>713009241 (OP)
It's almost like it's because it's to globohomo the game for trannies and no other reason. "Well now the NEW VERSION IS GAY HAHAHAHAHA"

Literally nothing else.
Inb4
>Bro that sounds like some woke right!

Shills claim that calling out SNOW WHITE, WHOSE SKIN AS WHITE AS SNOW, becoming a brown woman was the same as the morons who did it to begin with. I don't respond to people who use that term. Be warned.

>>713016578
Was TA2 the charming isekai one?

>>713009590
>What the fuck is wrong with [the same race of people that stabbed Okinawan kids to death to "save them from the American Marine devils" and who shoved pregnant mothers off the cliffs of Saipan
Japs are retarded, read more about 1931-1945 to realize just how similar to the Chinese they are in terms of negative braincells.

>>713009241 (OP)
They did the same with FF IV-VI in pixel remaster
"you don't need the bonus dungeons/extra jobs from the GBA versions, they were shit anyway"

>>713015381
Matsuno fucking loved WotL you fucking retard lmao.

>>713013754
Good call, the most of WotL content was junk anyways. Its cooler to see Wiegraf go MIA in the first act as a sympathetic villain and show up later at the end of Act 3 corrupted. It’s easy to fill in the blanks of why he joins the Temple knights, that scene takes away more than it gives. Other things are stupid and unnecessary like Algus coming back from the dead. The Dark Knight job takes too much grinding to get. Balthier and the FFT advance guy are alright, I guess, but this game already stacks the player with special characters.
If anything should be added it should be a hard mode, some kind of battle frontier thing, multiplayer and if they wanted to put some effort into it even act V or act 0, go back to the fifty years war.

>>713020104
>they were shit anyway
They aren't wrong.

>>713020104
You're also forgetting the Dawn of Souls bonus dungeons for 1 and 2.

>>713009475
They never did that for pixel remaster

>>713018786
Yeah it’s weird considering it’s gonna have Gladiator and Necromancer too

>>713021160
Tactics remaster is an ai upscale not a minimum effort remake.

>>713010775
lol nigga is you serious?

>>713009241 (OP)
>no Balthier and Luso
I really fail how those two scenarios and characters were that hard to import.
Also, does that mean we can steal Elmdore's equipment again?

>>713009241 (OP)
Dead on Arrival. SE should just close their doors for good.

>>713021690
That’s my point. They didn’t do the extra content for PR and not doing it for FFT

>>713021965
Those two characters were put in WotL as promotional material for their respective games, it would indeed be difficult to add them since they lost the source code and also they have no reason to add them since their games are not new
They could have added XIV characters

>>713021965
Luso was the faggot from advance 2 that softlocks into a fight against a gazillion behemoths when you aren't at all prepared for it right?

>>713017645
>I can't read English but let me paraphrase you incorrectly
Yeah, that's modern /v/.

>>713023397
Seems like a pretty flimsy excuse to me. And why exactly couldn't they use the PSP version as basis?

>>713023457
Yeah, but to be honest, Tactics pulls out way worse traps on you.

>>713023397
No, the actual reasoning is that the director is a massive purist for the PSX release and told everyone to get fucked.

>>713017286
Not if they add denuvo

>It has to be just like the PS1 version
I'm sure they'll get mad and blame people for playing the PS1 version, then try to ensure nobody can GET the PS1 version anymore.

Squenix is fucking clinically retarded at this point. Not that I give a fuck. The WOTL script is objectively better anyway, and I already have that, plus the romhacks for both that and the original are pretty good.

>>713016446
I find it amusing that he said that Yoshi-P shot down all his game pitches after he contributed to FFXIV for awhile, when before Yoshi-P was all "I joined gaming to work under men like Matsuno since he's my idol!" in past interviews, so that really cements how much of a hack Matsuno is and rides on past honors from other team members and creatives ala Keiji "Con Man" Inafune

>>713021454
That's ff4, isn't it? Looks like the chocobo guy. I doubt there were so many jobs.

This was obviously what they were going to do.
They cut some extra shit from the older remakes out of the new DQ3 remake too.

>>713020608
What's the consensus here? I liked the versions, except for lag.

>>713009241 (OP)
As someone that didn't care much about the WotL extra content (apart from the cutscenes and multiplayer), if they didn't include it just because of laziness and not because they will actually replace it with something better they are beyond scum.

>>713009590
They probably just lost the source code or something

>>713026309
Wotl had multiplayer?!

>>713021965
>Also, does that mean we can steal Elmdore's equipment again?

No, they are following the JAP version

>>713026543
At this point WotL was the nicer re-release of this game lmao. Shame it was a shitty port.

>>713025995
And we all know FFXVI is better than anything Matsuno ever made during his time at Square.

>>713026895
I'd say so, it had at least usps. Thus re-release is worse than to luct.

>>713026982
>usps
?

>>713010775
lol, lmao even. Voice acting was the biggest mistake in gaming history before UE5 and fake frames.

>>713026543
It did. It had PvP, and it had coop bonus missions with unique loot.

>>713025995
Or YoshiP is just a hack who's never made anything good.

>>713009241 (OP)
>We added nothing over the original release so players wouldnt miss that experience!
Okay so i wont buy your shitty rerelease since you have provided me nothing over an old experience, and have given me no logical incentive to respend money/emulate i can already play.
>N-no wait please

>>713028013
Matsuno already said the new script is 60% larger, and they added a hard mode that rebalances the game.

>>713028115
>the game is exactly the same, but we added 60% more words but also no story changes.
You are dissuading me even fucking more.

>>713028216
>but also no story changes.
Who are you quoting?

>>713028272
>However, the original version of Final Fantasy Tactics is a very complete game both from a game design and story perspective. If we were to make major changes, it would only be a loss for not only fans of the original game, but also those new to the title."
The OP, and devs of this very same game.
Are you retarded? Please try to keep up.

>>713028115
Difficulty modes being changed at any time makes me think they are just number inflation lazy tier.

>>713025995
Wasn't one of Yoshi-P's ideas to turn FF into a CoD clone?

>>713027101
Unique selling pointS
>>713027239
I don't mind good VAs, but it's usually worse than text.

>>713027784
Unfortunately we lost the tech for these kind of coop. Sad!

>>713028729

>>713025995
Maybe the retard is Yoshi-P and Matsuno's ideas that were shut down would be the revival SE needs.

>>713028420
Them not rewriting the story doesn't mean there are no story changes. You being a retard and pretending the script went up 60% in size and all they added was filler nonsense also doesn't mean no story changes.

>>713028013
Based.
I bought FFT for 10 bucks of my money back in 2000. This shit remaster costs 300+.

>>713026543
Only way you could get weapons like the Fomalhaut iir. Broken as shit as you can imagine.

>>713028986
Wait until 55% of that 60% is just "The Chronicle or Brave Story" or whatever FF16 had on the main map.

>>713011038
>read
the people advocating for full voice acting don't read

What's the best way to play ff5?

>>713009590
SE is the jew
come on theres fucking 3 FF7 games then there gonna go to FFX and thats gonna get bloated and split into 2 games cause they jews

>>713029110
Voice acting is fine for me even if i'll be turning it off for every single future playthrough. People acting like it's some sort of amazing addition and the second coming of Christ are pathetic.

>>713009241 (OP)
getting sick of the whole "erm we wanted to make a remake of the ORIGINAL and not the much more beloved re-release with more content mkay"

(btw we're releasing the content from the re-release as paid dlc ;P)

>>713029110
The people pretending to be smart because they don't like voice acting don't actually read books. They just play low budget RPGs and pretend they're smart.

>>713014549
Is that the chick from Fae Tactics?

>>713009241 (OP)
>We want to highlight the original game as it was as much as possible
>While changing certain aspects and dialogue that aren't like the original at all
If they actually gave a shit, they wouldn't change anything beyond updating the graphics. Let people experience the original translation and just how shit unlocking and using Cloud is.

>>713029398
ff10 was the prototype modern ff; no world map, linear corridors

>>713029687
>The people pretending to be smart because they don't like voice acting
Nobody did that
>>713011431
This was what people are clowning on

>>713020326
the one thing I really liked from WotL was the extra beowulf scenes and battles

I'd like a tactical rpg with a decent system in a low fantasy setting, and full of political intrigue, but not as much text as triangle strategy.

>>713029793
>Nobody did that
Who do you think you're fooling? These retards explicitly got mad at the idea that voice acting can enhance a game.

>>713029749
They are even using WotL's script as a base instead of going for a fixed version of the original.
It's just excuses, they really did whatever was easiest for them at any time.

>>713028986
>You being a retard and pretending the script went up 60% in size and all they added was filler nonsense
Going by SE's track record, filler nonsense is exactly what they're adding.

This is one of Square Enix's favorite tactics. It's so in the future they can sell a different edition with different content and gimmicks to keep people buying. They'll never put out a fully definitive version for anything ever again

>>713029764
do I give a fuck what you think you stupid cunt

>>713013594
Its for playstation users. No one cares about what pc can emulate.

>>713029867
If it's always on and not toggle-able I wouldn't prefer it. FFT was developed back when there weren't so many cinematic games. You're supposed to abstract a lot of stuff. Tacked on VA is a novelty at best.

>>713028806
There must be some way to rediscover these ancient, aeons old tech.
Apparently it's too much asked for that this already 30 year old game that was already re-released with functioning coop gets this function slapped on. This game has already the full price tag!
>>713029062
Games like fft are inherently broken, no problem. Honesty, some fights aren't easy, at least for most builds.
>cant upload pucs
Why?

>>713009241 (OP)
just wait 2 years for the Final Fantasy Tactics: Remaster Remake Rebirth

>>713027784
>unique loot.
eh, some of that was put in after taking it out of the 'main game'. Like some of the stealable stuff in the story wasn't stealable anymore, but put in as pvp rewards.

>>713009241 (OP)
Well at least it looks good

>>713030003
>Tacked on VA
Dialogue was rewritten to accommodate it being spoken out loud, and the dev team is deeply involved in selecting the voice actors. The English voices might be tacked on shit, but that's irrelevant.

>>713013594
you pc guys dont play games

>>713011431
Same, honestly.

It's like with porn, I can only fap to the character if I've beaten their game. I see all of these Eve threads and I really want to coom to her, but I have to wait until I play her game.

>>713028729
>>713030028
You now remember the Crystal Chronicles rerelease.

>>713030113
Obviously ffta and ffta2 will follow and a true sequel might come, too.

>>713030195
Tacked on in the sense that it doesn't really fit the rest of the style of the game. It's a more modern feature that contrasts the design a lot. Again, I'm not against it but I can only view it as a novelty at best. Even unnecessary for future playthroughs.

>>713030195
thinking overacting nip is good in a realish war setting

>>713011431
>>713010775
lmao based

>>713011431
for me if a game doesnt have voice acting I feel like they just dont care about the story so why will I

>>713030413
In all honesty, I don't. Is this the game cube game? AFAIK i played the demo recently on Snoy station, but erased ASAP.

>>713030579
The online was tottaly fucked and ruined the entire game and it's aesthetic, and THEN they fucked it so bad with an IOS version update that it broke the entire infrastructure so they just took down the game.

>We're going to remaster a classic title
>No we aren't adding in extra content or creating any
>We're going to fuck up the UI, add voice acting, blur textures and fuck up the colors
>That'll be $79.99

>>713030719
>IOS
Found your problem.
Recently learned that mobile games, as console to mobile, are almost always cut to death and are more often than not completely broken, yet they sell better than console games. More phone users, I reckon. Shame that devs are incompetent and greedy.

>>713030782
but the other game we remastered tactics ogre has everthing =)

>>713030782
And ruin the pixel art for free!!

>>713009542
They're saying it IS unaltered. They're not adding all the shit added to the last remake that fucked the balance up

Is there any kind of auto play / auto grind option in this remake or is that only for the WotL on PSP / Android?

>>713031006
It's a much better re-release, despite having issues itself.

>>713019630
Yeah.

>>713030782
B-based! HAVE MY MONEY SQUARE!

>>713030443
>it doesn't really fit the rest of the style of the game.
How so? Be specific.

>>713030453
>overacting nip
You sound like the kind of retard who will call any Japanese voice acting overacting.

>>713032443
>You sound like the kind of retard who will call any Japanese voice acting overacting.
yes cause its shit

>>713032501
These are the kinds of retards who get mad at voice acting on principle.

>>713032443
>It's a more modern feature that contrasts the design a lot
Read nigga, oh wait

>>713032631
>It's a more modern feature
Games had voice acting before 1997, you fucking idiot. It in no way doesn't fit the game nor does it "contrast the design" at all. That's a completely meaningless statement. There's literally nothing in the game the precludes it from having voice acting. Nothing about the story, characterization, gameplay mechanics or systems in any way goes against it. You're making a worthless blanket statement that older games shouldn't have them, which is stupid because devs put voice acting into games when they could. Any rule you're about to come up with about why games of certain genres shouldn't have them in no way reflects the actual design of those genres or the wishes of their creators, and is something you'll pull out of your ass entirely. And once again, the retards pretending they're smart or hardcore gamers for wanting to read text without voice acting are too stupid to understand the strengths between different mediums, and certainly don't read books.

>>713009241 (OP)
do they realize that they could have had both and given people the option to choose

>>713019796
>no one ever did anything bad except the people I dislike
They gave Obama a peace Nobel prize for bombing civilians, literally nothing matters

>>713009241 (OP)
>sword magic jobs the only ones anybody fucking cares about
>dark knight added in the other re-releases
>removed from the re-re-re-remaster
I used to feel bad about Squeenix crashing but they honestly deserve it

>>713033089
I can't believe you typed something that ridiculous.

>>713033089
Even the eu has such a meme medal.
>nothing matters
Big politics/finance/corporations are holding our species hostage. They are literally hindering progress.

>>713032892
>Zodiac brave story
>Implied the story is told through lost texts, so as you read through the game you can imply that aesthetic theme as you read. The intro crawl cements this implication. To improve this would be adding footnotes and better text box aesthetics to reflect it
There. Youre gay and retarded.

>>713033476
Didn't he start like almost 10 wars

>>713013754
That's not what he's saying in this screencap, retardkun. Please take the time to actually consider the fucking context of the question instead of just seeing the words you want to read and disregarding the context they exist within. He's saying within this context that he wanted to keep the additional story scenes that were added in the WotL version, which they've already said the re-release will include new scenes not in the original release written by Matsuno. (Now granted, it remains to be seen if that means that the additional story elements of WotL will all be included, or re-imagined while written by Matsuno.) But nothing being said in your screenshot implies anything about Matsuno advocating for 2 extra guest characters, dark knight, and an onion knight that has no reason to exist (the game is more than easy enough with smart buildcrafting to make the process of making onion knights good anything but a sheer and utter waste of time) He's SPECIFICALLY talking about story elements.

>>713033606
That's a more retarded reach than I could have possibly imagined you'd have gone for. By your impossibly fucking stupid logic, the game should have no sound effects at all.

>>713033630
Losing dark knight is fucking faggotry

>>713032892
You're twisting my words a lot and going off tangents but it's pretty simple. The game was made without voice acting. It's designed in a way where voice acting is not needed. Adding voice acting is not a big deal for this game and in some ways it can get annoying and even hinder the experience.

>>713034035
>The game was made without voice acting.
Yes, as a limitation and not due to whatever nonsense about design contrast you're pretending applied to the situation. I asked you to specify how voice acting contrasted the game design, and now you're getting pissy because you can't actually back up your stupid claim.
>It's designed in a way where voice acting is not needed.
Again, by your logic then sound isn't needed, either.

>>713011456
There's some speculation that early in development they were thinking about multiple story paths, and these were cut down to streamline the game. Zalbag eitehr dying or joining you is very likely.

>>713009241 (OP)
War of the Lions content such as
>Hey you know the girl who literally killed herself and that guy at the end because they hate each other so fucking much?
>Actually they both no sold it and lived happily forever after together

>>713032562
have no way of telling me I am wrong cause you think nip shouting and fake bisho voices is good

>>713034252
>Games had voice acting before 1997, you fucking idiot.
>Yes, as a limitation and not due
Make up your mind.
It also doesn't matter why it was made without voice acting. The designed the game around it as soon as it was decided.
>Again, by your logic then sound isn't needed, either
What? I can't even begin to comprehend how you'd make such an idiotic parallel.
>you can't actually back up your stupid claim.
I did, you're just handwaving it very conveniently. It's a retroactive change that contrasts the initial design.

>>713034589
You can barely speak English. What makes you think your opinions on Japanese matter?

>>713034515
I have never played WotL, did they really changed the ending?

When

>>713034896
Nope

>>713010775
feels like this can be done with a modded iso today on emulator.

>>713009241 (OP)
The absolute state of current Square-enix should be an object of study for future game studios.

>>713034909
Can't wait for modern Squeenix to rape and mutilate an old favorite!

>>713034675
>Make up your mind.
You're either being obtuse on purpose because you think it gives you a point, or you're genuinely retarded. Games had voice acting before 1997, so the idea that it's a modern feature is objectively wrong. When games didn't have it (and when games now don't have it) it's an issue of resources like time and money. It's not a creative choice. Square put voice acting in games when they could, even in the 90s. You talking out of your ass and pretending they intended for the games not to have it won't make that true.
>The designed the game around it as soon as it was decided.
Again, this means nothing. The game is not designed differently for having voice acting. The mechanics don't change. The UI doesn't change. The story doesn't change.
>What? I can't even begin to comprehend how you'd make such an idiotic parallel.
Sound isn't needed any more than voice acting is needed. You could mute the game and beat the entire thing from start to finish without any problems whatsoever. They're both equally necessary. Can you give a concrete reason why one is superfluous and one is necessary? If you can't, then maybe you should considering shutting the fuck up.
>It's a retroactive change that contrasts the initial design.
No it doesn't. Learn what contrast means. They didn't design the game specifically to not accommodate voice acting. Circular logic like "It didn't have it so therefore they designed it specifically not to have it" is something only retards try using to back up worthless arguments that they make. Try not to be any more of a retard than you already are. And if you're going to make claims about them specifically not wanting it, then provide a source. You're worthless speculation is not a source nor will it ever be.

>>713034909
This actually needs a fucking remake. Anything to cut down on the excessive menuing.

WotL is not as good as og FFT and not including it is a good thing.

>>713009241 (OP)
I'm guessing for woke reasons
Trump needs to step in and regulate these DEI fucks

>>713034736
I am putting in as much effort as the shitty nip va

>>713009241 (OP)
Now if only these idiots just fixed the original script and not use WotL like the mouth breathing retards they are

>>713035230
I wanted it included because I didn't play WotL and I played the shit out of the original. I was hoping we'd get WotL with some extra features to make it feel really fresh. Hopefully I won't be dead when they finally add all that shit into one game.

>>713009241 (OP)
So there's literally zero reason to buy this then because you can just emulate the original and a bug fixed version of WotL with out slow down. inb4 Delita is suddenly a black tranny and the new translation was handled by someone like Kate.

>>713035347
Just play WotL then.

>>713035309
We both know that you don't know a single VA working on the game, nor have you listened to a single line they've read. Let me save you the trouble of writing out your next worthless shitpost.
>I don't need to hear them to know they're shit!

>>713035429
I probably will at this point, I just knew it was inevitable for them to revisit FFT so that's what I was waiting on and why I didn't play it before.

>"remaster" a game from 30 years ago
>remove content
>change things for no reason
>charge full price + tax + tip + online subscription

>>713009241 (OP)
Download the original games. Don't pay for soulless remakes by companies that don't know what they're doing.

>>713035456
I dont need to know there be freezer somewhere in this game and overacting shit

>>713035668
I wish this site just banned ESLmonkeys already.

>>713035139
>You talking out of your ass and pretending they intended for the games not to have it won't make that true.
I don't care what the intend was. They designed the game without (the more common nowadays feature) or voice acting.
>Again, this means nothing.
This means a lot and you're overly dismissive. Why do you think they added portraits to the speak bubbles? It's to make it even easier to tell who's speaking because all information depends on the player's eyes.
>Sound isn't needed any more than voice acting is needed etc
You're exaggerating to desperately prove your point.
>No it doesn't. Learn what contrast means
It does. Now you get flapping mouths on the portraits to accommodate retroactive VA.
It's very easy to dismiss any points as "for retards". Stop being so mad about me telling you that voice acting is not all that great and a very tiny addition. It's not a hard concept unless you're coping with something.

In an ideal world we would have gotten a release with:
>PS1 version with JP balancing and OG script
>PS1 version with JP balancing and WotL script
>PS1 version with US balancing and OG script
>PS1 version with US balancing and WotL script
>PSP version with OG script
>PSP version with WotL script
>completely new version without the WotL shit and new script
But I guess the only company that puts in that much effort is M2.

>>713035724
yeah they should ban you, sucks off something he doesn't understand cause his a stupid dumb fuck

I’m going to buy the remaster to play on hard mode that isn’t autistic bullshit like 1.3 insane stay mad you fucking monkeys

>>713035793
>I don't care what the intend was.
>But let me tell you about the design choices they made
Yeah, you're too fucking retarded to keep arguing with. You can't pretend to care how a game was designed the way it was while also saying you don't care about their design intentions or reasons for doing things.
>Why do you think they added portraits to the speak bubbles?
Games with voice acting have that, dumb ESLmonkey. You third world retards are genuinely a plague.

bro this dude has been spamming this thread for 3 days straight
what the fuck is wrong wtihy ou dude
go jerk off and play a video game you stupid fucking loser
dont play it if you dont lik eit,

Why don't they just make a new Tactics game already?

>>713036042
I can tell you about the design choices because I see them when I play the game.
Are you mentally challenged?
The game was made with a certain abstraction in mind when you play it. Voice acting isn't something you just painlessly jam in there.
Anyway you're that retard that keeps going on tangents about ESLmonkeys as if they raped you. Cope with your trash taste and lack of nuance

>>713036090
Site is infected with this retarded bullshit now, autistic 3rd worlders who go on crusades against various games trying to play narrative police

>>713036313
>I can tell you about the design choices because I see them when I play the game.
You absolutely can not say they didn't want voice acting as a choice as opposed to not including it due to resource constraint because you played the game and saw that it didn't have voice acting. That's too retarded for even an ESLmonkey to insist.
>Voice acting isn't something you just painlessly jam in there.
Actually, it is something you can add no matter how out of place you try to make it seem by saying "jam it in". Retards who think voiced dialogue in an audio-visual media is ever out of place are irrelevant.

>>713036541
I disagree with your simplistic view. Improve your tastes.

>>713031006
It didn’t have rogue

>>713011456
if I remember right even the game itself subtly hypes him up, like when Tietra gets kidnapped Dycedarg is limping out of the castle but earlier Zalbaag casually rushes and cuts down the dude trying to kidnap Alma

>>713036090
The interview is relatively new info for an upcoming remaster. It wasn't even that bait-y of an OP.

>>713037220
Didn't Dycedarg have some kind of anime AIDS?

>>713037038
>I disagree with your simplistic view.
You're the retard who thinks voice acting in an audio-visual medium can be a bad thing because budget constraints didn't allow it to be included originally. There's nothing to disagree about, you're just objectively wrong and don't understand the design intent behind games, which you're already explicitly said you don't care about. Your tastes are plebeian at absolute best. You have no place commenting on any subset of the arts.

>>713037373
No, that was his elder brother.

>>713009241 (OP)
No dark knight no buy

>>713037379
>You're the retard who thinks voice acting in an audio-visual medium can be a bad thing
Yes
>because budget constraints didn't allow it to be included originally
Speculation. Also a pointless thing to bring up.
You not only retarded, but you also try to act all smart which makes it even sadder.

>>713037525
Sorry. It was too hard for them.

>>713037563
>Speculation
Not speculation because Square added voice acting when they could in the 90s, and now it's completely commonplace. They're also adding it into FFT now. Unless you can find an interview of Matsuno saying voice acting doesn't fit into the game, then you're objectively wrong.
>You not only retarded, but you also try to act all smart which makes it even sadder.
You're an angry uncultured ESLmonkey.

>>713033772
I really wanted hell and heaven knight.
>>713034909
Proper remake!

Unprotected sex with female Geomancer!

>>713035724
I'm trans btw

>>713037641
You are arguing in circles and keep repeating the same stupid points that contradict each other. Try acting smarter next time if you want people to think you're superior to others.

>>713034896
No, WOTL still ends the same. Matsuno's post that Delita and Ophelia survived their mutual stabbing and lived an awkward married life came way after that port.

>>713010775
Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?

>>713037921
It's only the greatest thing ever invented anon.

>>713009241 (OP)
>we totally fucked this game with denovo for not reason, no multiplayer, no stealing the gengi gear, removed all of wotl content, removed classes, and totally downgraded from the original! buy our game
>also were totally gay for pride month
>squenix

this new bullshit is a massive downgrade even from the original

>>713009241 (OP)
Square Enix famously throws out their source code super often so this isn't surprising.

>>713037874
He should have rape corrected her instead of stabbing her.

>>713009241 (OP)
Wasn't the fact that they were selling a pack with a classic version and a WotL version a selling point?
If they remove content from the version that added more content to the game then what's even the point anymore.
I hate TRPG and I hate AI upscaled sprites so I wasn't going to buy it, but this feels like a slap to the face for the people who've been waiting years for an FFT remaster.

>>713009241 (OP)
kek, I'll just emulate the original
squarejeets shills can eat my shit

>>713009241 (OP)
>We did of course consider the addition of new jobs, abilities, and characters
>If we were to make major changes, it would only be a loss

>>713037812
>that contradict each other.
Why have I said that contradicts something else I've said? Be specific. If you can't give an actual example of a contradiction then I'll take that to mean you're done pretending you ever had a point.

>>713009241 (OP)
>People here were unironically getting excited to pay for an AI upscale with missing content

>>713038137
>no multiplayer, no stealing the gengi gear, removed all of wotl content, removed classes
None of that shit was in the original.

This media tour of theirs is just turning people off from preordering. They should’ve shadow dropped it

>>713038445
>no stealing the gengi gear
I stole genji gear when I was 11

>>713038445
you never played the game. you could lower elmdors bravery and steal all his genji gear, and masamune blade.

>>713033532
protestents and puritans are the reason everything fucking sucks. look up how many holidays we used to have before the reformation, how white people cared more about each other back then, or how suffering and individuality wasn't so glamourized.

>>713038520
>>713038530
Not in the original you couldn't.

>>713038262
Even with the source code excuse, this project been in development since at least 2017-18, before they even got full speed ahead on FFXVI. They could have remade the entirety of FFT in that time. It very much Matsuno being ungodly petty about how SQEX "fucked with" his game, despite its sister Tactics Ogre basically redoing the entire backend for the 3rd time to make things even better for the player.

>>713038331
>Wasn't the fact that they were selling a pack with a classic version and a WotL version a selling point?
No, they TECHNICALLY said that it was the OG version (with the WOTL TL, so not really) packed in with a Remastered version, NOT WOTL. Very weaselly worded there.

>>713038597
I definitly did though. I remember it clear as day, training thieves up to steal the genji equipment in Chapter IV.

>>713038597
the original is the only one you can do it in. they block you in wotl because you can only find that stuff on the deep dark. the awesome dungeon they're removing from this demake

>>713038404
>Square put voice acting in games when they could, even in the 90s
Why did FFT not have VA?
>budget constraints didn't allow it to be included originally
Speculation
>Not speculation because Square added voice acting when they could in the 90s

Don't make me do any more work for your retarded ass. Just stop replying to me with your retardation.

>>713038719
>>713038731
You didn't play the original, and that's a fact.

>>713038064
Maybe for retards who can't read.

>>713038641
https://x.com/YasumiMatsuno/status/1935129517733130657
Thanks for your concern.
I think I understand.

If I were the director, I might have incorporated some elements from the PSP version. (Not all of them.)

However, the director, Maehiro-san, stuck strongly to the original PS1 version.
He is a passionate fan of the original.

It is the director's role to determine the final specifications.
The director is also the one who takes responsibility.
Therefore, I support his decision.

>>713038838
>In the US version, the Genji equipment can be stolen from Marquis Elmdore. In the original Japanese version, Elmdore's job has innate Maintenance ability, and thus the equipment could not be obtained. The War of the Lions remake is based on the original, and thus the player cannot steal from Elmdore; the Genji equipment can instead be obtained via Melee and/or Rendezvous. The Genji Armor can also be obtained in the new sidequest at Lionel Castle in Chapter 4, after defeating Aliste Rosenheim.
Kill yourself. I know what I did. I stole the genji equipment in the PSX sitting in front of my TV petting my akita dog some 25 years in the past.

>>713037728
Is she nopan?

Holy autism batman

>>713038751
>Speculation
Nope, as evidence by them adding it in now, and adding it into games with fewer lines that would need voicing in the 90s, and adding it to all their games starting in the 2000s.
>Don't make me do any more work for your retarded ass.
You're actually too fucking stupid and ignorant to know that they have voice acting in the 90s, aren't you? Anyways, nothing you said, even if it was true, was a contradiction. I know you don't know English, but you should learn what words mean before you use them. Claiming something you can't prove (which is what you think I did and what you're actually doing) isn't a contradiction of anything.

>>713038937
Thank you for proving you didn't play the original.

>>713038838
why are you even here? you don't even know how bravery or faith works, let alone zodiac paring, and where you can get overpowered gear. fucking retard

>>713031193
>fucked the balance up
Tactics is one of the most unbalanced RPGs ever made
You don't even have to mix-and-match unorthodox combinations. Blade Grasp is one of the most cartoonishly overpowered passives in any game and it takes zero investment to get beyond the JP cost (comes passively from using Samurai, which is in itself incredibly strong just by existing)

>>713013195
Wasn’t there a quest line in WotL where Ramza could become a holy knight though?

>>713009241 (OP)
they cut the nortubel references from the original

>>713038641
>Very weaselly worded there.
And when you pointed that out to people they called you an idiot.
Now we are at the stage where everything WotL added was "cancer"
Can you guess the next stage?

>>713038986
The original in that sentence is the original japanese. You didn't play in japanese either, retard. The original we are reffering to is the PSX US version.

>>713038986
Retard

>>713010775
Voice acting basically killed jrpgs. Their golden era came to an abrupt end. The first mediocre Final Fantasy is 10 for example.

>>713039007
Maybe in some romhack.

>>713009241 (OP)
TL: were lazy and cheap

If they cared about preserving the original experience they wouldnt include the "hd" smear filter or add voice acting.

A remaster is never about delivering you a better version of the same game. Its about making more money. Theyll happily sell you that game ten times over and each time tell you this is it the definitive experience sorry we fucked it up last time that ones no good buy this one instead goyim

>>713039064
>The original we are reffering to is the PSX US version.
So not the original. You should call it something else.

>>713039084
FFX is great though.

>>713033630
Click the link before getting your panties twisted, he said more in another post. And no, they won't add wotl elements because the decision is on Maehiro, that's final. If you actually can read, that is.

>>713039130
>Bullshit semantic
Kill yourself tranny.

>>713039084
Jrpgs had va since the 80s anon

>>713039000
>Samurai, which is in itself incredibly strong
LOL

>>713038851
Fair enough, I can admit it isn't ENTIRELY Matsuno's fault (lmao at him still going 'but not ALL PSP content! :^D).
It's still a goofy decision, especially if you are making the game more expensive than the PSP port was.

>>713039046
If we are already at the "It's GOOD that it is happening!" then it usually goes to it selling a million copies and then people that ignoring all the warning signs go "ay, what the fuck, this is shit!". Except they already got your money and will just do it again.

>>713009241 (OP)
>This is the product contrarians of Remake and Rebirth wanted
Can we point and laugh at these retards yet?

>>713039007
it's not a quest line it's just a lot of requirements, but yeah he can become a holy knight. it's not as strong as his squire class though

>>713039210
Something is either the original, or it's not. The US version is definitively not the original due to the numerous balance changes. You should check out some of the other alterations if you're curious to learn more. Either way, I'm glad we now agree that you could not steal the Genji Gear in the original.

>>713011431
Grim.

>>713039228
Maehiro is no different to any other purist who existed back in the days of WoTL.

>>713038979
Show me the info that they didn't add voice acting in 1997 because of budget constraints. You don't get so state things as facts you know.
>Anyways, nothing you said, even if it was true, was a contradiction.
I know enough English to realize you have no idea what you're even typing here.
Spare me your tangled logical gymnastics from now on. You don't get to argue by not making sense.

>>713011431
as long as I hear the "dot noises" I'm fine with it reading

>>713039345
Kill yourself.

There's no real excuse for removing content from a rerelease.

>>713039396
Hmm? Is there something you're still confused about? If you tell me what it is I'll explain it in a way you can understand.

>>713039345
Retard.

>>713039459
W-we lost the source code and had to do it from scratch...A-anyway adding new content is a loss for the game...

>>713039569
>being smug and semantic when you get btfo
I reiterate. Kill yourself.

>>713009241 (OP)
WotL sucked

>>713039459
Um you see actually having less content is good!

>>713039643
I told him to kill himself first, this is stolen valor.

>>713039643
But >>713038937 clearly agrees with me: you can't steal the Genji Gear in the original. It's right there.
>In the original Japanese version, Elmdore's job has innate Maintenance ability, and thus the equipment could not be obtained.

>>713039384
>Show me the info that they didn't add voice acting in 1997 because of budget constraints.
They don't have budget constraints now and they're adding it.
>You don't get so state things as facts you know.
Facts don't not become facts because you're an angry turd worlder.
>I know enough English
No you don't.

>>713039361
I comprehend the purist argument. WOTL content is goofy and not well explained and the way they drop Luso onto your lap completely non-optionally is massively immersion breaking (I like the kid but why was he just IN THE WAY like that>). And the animated cutscenes are kinda uncanny valley-ish. Hell, I personally dislike the translation, it makes a complex story most people already ignored after Chapter II way too hard to digest. So I get why and how a purist got up so high.

But this is major rerelease. A paid product. That already has a "don't fuck with my memories!!" classic mode. There's no point in cutting out content. I can understand multiplayer not sticking around, and maybe the guest characters could be dropped. But extra classes, extra stories for the side characters, the "FUCK YOU, ALGUS!" fight?? I don't think why you would think that stuff doesn't make a fuller (if not better) experience for your rerelease? SaGa rereleases constantly add new content to make their games complete. All the HD-2D remakes have been adding more content. Other rereleases at least use the AI upscaling better. Why make your product look half-assed compared to all the other SQEX remaster projects, even if you aren't trying to?

hell, you can't even argue that everything is absolutely purist/Vanilla+. I think that White Armor for Ramza Pre-Order DLC not only looks gaudy, it goes against his dour self-image during the events of Chapter II. He's supposed to look like a broody merc that pushes people away, after the "death" of his best friend and him running away from the Beoulve household. The black and spiked armor works has more than just literal points to it!

>>713040083
>All the HD-2D remakes have been adding more content.
99% of the time it's to the game's detriment.

>>713039972
>They don't have budget constraints now and they're adding it.
Here, again, angry retard.
Retroactively adding it now is not proof they didn't add it back then because of budget. That's your own speculation.
Also get some help with your third worlder issues, it's unsightly to witness such obsession.

Is this square-enix or is this Atlus?
>makes game
>makes update to game
>remakes game to different console, adding more features but losing some features from the original and update
>Remakes game again but doesn't add new features

>>713040357
>adding something now that they have the money for it doesn't mean they wanted to add it before, even though they added it to other games and also the original creator is working on it and supervising voice work now
Actually, that's exactly what it means. You being an angry ESLmonkey doesn't change that immutable fact.
>Also get some help with your third worlder issues, it's unsightly to witness such obsession.
If cockroaches fill your house, do you not get angry and try to kill them? You might not, but normal people do. That's what you and your ilk are to /v/.

>>713009241 (OP)
AKA: we aint doin extra work for shit, here's your slop ENJOY!

>>713040906
>Actually, that's exactly what it means.
Once again you're stating things as facts.
I know you're extra dumb and think that voice acting can only ever be a positive. I'm getting tired of tard-wrangling you around so I'll just register you as a tasteless idiot and be done with it.
Seriously look into solving whatever issue you have with people from other countries. It makes you seem like a caricature of a person.

>>713040906
>Having cockroaches in your house
Embarrassing

>>713040906
Esl babble

>>713009241 (OP)
The actual reason is that war of the lions was not made by any of the devs of the original team. Square enix took a huge shit in Matsuno's team. So now that the original devs got hired for the remaster, they want to deal with their own work.

>>713041779
I hope their own work is good enough then. Because if they are cutting shit to only add some new spoken lines to Cid and Agrias during battles then it's pathetic.

>>713014001
NO!
NEW PRODUCT GOOD!
MUST COONSOOOOOOM NEWEST PRODUCT!
DON'T CARE ABOUT ITS QUALITY, I MUST EAT THE NEWEST RELEASED TURD!!!

>>713041241
>>713041496
>>713041635
ESLfags aren't people.

>>713041964
How are you posting on /v/ then eslbro

>>713009590
Because fuck you give me money. Their reasoning is literally "we'll cut this out because the original game doesn't come with it".

>>713009791
Or they could've already included it into the remaster and add in an option before starting a new game if you want to use War of The Lions content or not.

>>713042117
Why bother making a classic and enchanted options then?

>>713041887
They aren't cutting anything.

>>713042225
Cope.
>WotL doesn't count
Why are they using WotL's script then? Are they cutting the original?

>>713042351
The original was filled with errors. Altering that is akin to bug fixing.

>>713025995
Maybe his ideas got shot down since he suggested making a real RPG with fun cool mechanics instead of a game with no flavor that just follows modern trends.

>>713042535
You're being dumb but it doesn't matter. If the deal is to trade animated cutscenes, extra jobs, multiplayer and extra events just for voice acting and some new lines of dialogue then I don't think it's worth considering.
Pretty terrible idea for a remaster and wasted potential.

>>713009590
SE are retarded and greedy, a dangerous combination. They take cash from their own profitable game and spend it on NFT garbage while that one profitable game is dying from neglect.

>>713041779
>>713041887
Did Maehiro work on FFT PSX? If not then its just nostalgiafag wanking.

>>713042782
None of that stuff is being traded. It'd stupid to take an inferior port and use it as the basis for a new release instead of the original.

>>713043065
Not as a director but yes

>>713009241 (OP)
>square enix "remaster"
>is going to be shit
So business as usual.

>>713043162
It's not the port (they aren't using any source code anyway) it's the content. And if they didn't want to add Dark Knights and Onion Knights then they should add their ideas of extra jobs. But they are being lazy. Unless they really added some robust events to the story. But I highly doubt it.

>original crew would rather focus on their own new cutscenes/cut content than implementing fanfiction done by another team for easy money
>people call this a "demake"
This is how all remasters should be

>>713043372
The game already has enough Jobs that cover everything you'd want and then some. Adding more just for the sake of it is bloat.

>>713043647
You add more because it's fun. Framing it as bloat because it fits your narrative is disingenuous.

>>713043812
Dark Knight is already bloat but Onion Knight is something worse. Its antithetical to the game's systems.

>>713016593
This is what le ebik trolling has been reduced to.

>>713018214
>some fag
it was ESLs who don't understand when or why native English speakers use "though" at the end of a sentence. they used to post that nega-jak with the meme arrow and "though" on /int/ and /pol/

>>713043812
nta but like every conceivable role is filled by something you can acquire and adding more classes risks fucking up the balance of the original game
>But the original game is too unbalanced already and is easy
Which hopefully the hard mode will address

>>713043952
That's so much bullshit it's insane. They should add some new exciting jobs then.

>>713044035
That's why they made the new classes hard to get in WotL. Unless you grind which would make the game easy anyway, you don't naturally have access to anything more than the original for the whole campaign.

>>713009241 (OP)
>we could have kept the extra content but decided not to because fuck you
>accept this slop version that has less content than the US version

>>713044062
The entire premise of the Job system is to switch between different Jobs, learn abilities, and use them in different combinations to make your units feel unique.
Onion Knight has no abilities to learn.
Onion Knight can't equip abilities.
It doesn't fit with the game. It never did. Arguing for its inclusion outs you as either someone that never played the game or someone that doesn't understand or appreciate it. It's exclusion can only be a positive, because not only does it add nothing, the core design of the Job clashes with how the game is supposed to be played.

>>713035535
>be promised a remaster of a game from 30 years ago
>get upset it's not a remaster of a game from 17 years ago
If they wanted to make "The War of the Lions Definitive Edition" they would have called it that, retard. Nobody is pulling a bait and switch

>>713044035
If anything, they should remove more classes to make balancing easier for a more streamlined experience. I think the classic trio of Knight, Priest and Thief would be excellent!

>>713039228
>Fair enough, I can admit it isn't ENTIRELY Matsuno's fault (lmao at him still going 'but not ALL PSP content! :^D).
That definitely him talking about Dark Knight and Onion Knight and all the mindless op equipment added in multiplayer that's better than Midlight's deep gear and other hard to get rare items.

>>713044298
That's your own opinion. Onion Knight is a gimmick take that trades ability versatility with equipment versatility and stats. It's perfectly fun to mess around with and make weird combos.
Blah blah outing you as a non fan etc etc.
Stop being an idiot any time.

>>713044298
Nah Onion knight is based because it can equip any equipment and has high stats, Mime can't equip abilities either it's fine to have gimmick classes like that.
The problem is realistically you might master like two jobs by the end of the game and Onion knight needs 14 to max out...and because of the level up/down trick you can get infinite stats on any class anyway, so it doesn't fit into the game

>>713043812
>hurrr the added cutscenes will ruin the game's integrity
>b-but not added j-jobs because I say so, let us have f-fun, r-r-removed content
kek

>>713044563
>It's perfectly fun to mess around with and make weird combos.
Can't do that with Onion Knight, retard.

>>713044672
>hurrr the added cutscenes will ruin the game's integrity
Where are you getting this?

>>713044238
>accept this slop version that has less content than the US version
Did you have a stroke? This does have content not seen in the US version of FF Tactics, you're confusing it with a different game

>>713044771
Why do you insist on wanting more in a game that's already complete as it was originally?

>>713044725
Yeah you can. You can make combos based on equipment.

>>713044898
More=better.
There should be an extra 3 Chapters that detail how Ramza became a NASCAR driver complete with an unskippable 3 hour cutscene after every stage.

>>713044898
Why don't you just play the original for the rest of your life? Is adding a hard mode also too much because the original was complete? We can't add fun stuff now?

>>713045049
We already know the new difficulty is making retarded changes.

>>713045149
It is? Better avoid playing this then.

>>713045049
>give me number bloat!!!
difficultyfags are probably the worst kind of retards, that's at least one thing I can respect the dark souls fags for even if I dont like their games
everybody on the same playing field

>go to upscale restaurant
>have a lobster dinner
>all of the sudden you stand up and demand the waiter to bring you a deep dish pizza
>"sir that would ruin the integrity of the meal tho-"
>"I DONT CARE I WANT MORE I DONT CARE IF IT MAKES WHAT I JUST HAD BLOATED AND UNNECESSARY"

>>713045049
The "hard" mode is just "you cant use these abilities" retarded self imposed challenge shit.

>>713045232
>give me number bloat!!!
Where did I say that? Can you argue only against imaginary arguments? Wouldn't you want a difficulty mode with harder enemy configurations or AI?

>>713009241 (OP)
don't care

war of the lions is fanfic

>>713045320
How about you just play the fucking game, retard

>>713045313
Then it is shit and doesn't even count as an addition. I can cook up a mod for such a hard mode in 1 hour with the editor.

>>713045232
Original FFT is way too easy once you know how it works because enemies almost never have real abilities past like chapter 2.

>>713045389
What are you talking about?

>there are retards defending getting less content in a remaster because corporation said its a good thing to get less content
There is no hope for gaming. I will laugh my fucking ass off if the WotL content is added via paid DLC.

>>713009241 (OP)
So does that mean it's the version where the guest stars were Cloud and Aerith instead of the one where it's Balthier and Fran?

>>713045245
Holy mother of strawmen

>>713045546
>there are retards defending getting less content in a remaster
play the original

just play the fucking original
you don't need a demaster
the original is already there
it still works
they can't take this from you

>>713045546
If it's DLC then it will be praised as the "acclaimed WotL content" by the shit eaters. It's how it always goes.

>>713045472
And it'll still be easy with whatever new dumb difficulty they're adding.
>>713045638
Thankfully SE doesn't do that.

>game is a remaster of the PS1 game, like they said from the beginning
>spregs lose their shit
Ports, by definition, are separate works. Good on them for not giving in to the toxic consumer mindset that a remake or remaster has to include "DLC" that was not part of the original release to be of value

>>713045601
They took the possibility of a cool remake of the game with new content and extra features added from me. Wasted potential and a quick money grab.

>>713045760
>remake remake remake remaster remake
PLAY
THE
ORIGINAL

>>713010775
That is not a positive.

>>713045671
>And it'll still be easy with whatever new dumb difficulty they're adding.

Why would I judge that before it's even out? It could be extremely half assed but if it changes the way you approach maps it could still be interesting.

>>713045313
No it isn't they specifically mention Wiegraf being harder on Tactician difficulty.

>>713045793
I have you retarded nigger? What does that have to do with anything? Why do you keep repeating it? Ideally I'd be playing FFT2 by 2025 but I have to settle for a remake to get some new content like extra stages. Guess I'm not getting anything cool for 50 bucks.

>>713045824
We've already gotten a preview of the changes they're making and it's stupid horseshit like removing Blade Grasp. It's going to be ass.

How badly are they gonna nerf this nigga?

>>713045858
Sure, harder because they limit what abilities you can use.

>>713045858
They can do that by fixing a bug and using the JP balancing. It's not going to be significant.
>>713045970
Chances are he won't join at all.

>>713046015
Anon, he gets more HP too!!!

>>713045969
Where? Only thing I heard is no holy on Calculator

>>713045601
>"play the original"
>anon's complaint is that he wants to play a secondary version of the game with this remaster
This news really broke the demake npc script

>>713045678
If they're adding extra shit then it's not the original. And nothing was stopping them from putting the PSP shit as its own option in the main menu for those who wanted it

>>713046132
CT5 Holy with Chameleon Robes equipped was a popular meme strat that got deleted. It stands to reason that the same thing will happen to Blade Grasp.
But I bet they'll leave Hamedo alone when it's a better Blade Grasp solely because people haven't been screaming about it for years.

>>713044771
>everyone else complaining is saying their content will be worse than what was taken away, but I didn't say that
Yeah, you're such a free-thinker, lil bro.

>No Dark knight
>WotL translation
>No WotL content

It's like they actually fucking hate the fans. It's like they ONLY want to please shareholders and they know that enough retards will slurp up this slop to appease their poor shareholders.

>>713046365
>It stands to reason that the same thing will happen to Blade Grasp.
So you made it up fucking faggot
Hamedo only works on normal attacks anyway, hamedo+gun is funny but blade grasp makes a lot of enemies basically unable to hit you at all.

>>713046371
It's so hard to follow you with your made up arguments you know. Anyway my worry is that whatever they add is gonna be insignificant and very little in scope. Certainly not as cool as 2 extra jobs yes. I'm open to be surprised.

>>713046516
Is Megumin really in FFT?

>>713045245
Shitty, worthless analogy aside, if you ask the waiter to bring you a pizza as well, they will happily do it and put it on your bill.

>>713046191
>>713045947
I just can't understand the zoomer mindset of everything needing to be sharted onto a modern console just so they can pay full price for decades old titles that already exist for significantly cheaper and guaranteed without censorship.

Like why subject yourself to all this bullshit for MAYBE a chance to play the same fucking game unmolested.

I'm not buying it.
Shit, I'm not even sure I'll pirate it.
This shit is just sad. Square Enix has learned fuckin' nothing all these years. Fuck up after fuck up and they can't seem to get their head out their own ass. This is pretty much what happens when you have people who are way too old and way too stupid occupying positions they have no business in. Seriously, they're doing more damage than good and I don't have to explain to you why this remaster is going to fucking suck.

>>713046608
She was cut

>>713046608
yes

FFT TIME JANNIES

>>713046608
Yes.

>>713046286
>for those who wanted it
Call them what they are: shit eaters with no taste.

>>713045245
>food analogy

Okay but is War of the Lions even good?

>>713046902
Some of it yes.

>>713046015
>>713046080
They would have to change Wiegraf in some way or else he is still going to job to run away while spamming focus and tailwind.

>Chances are he won't join at all.
Maybe they will reintroduce Matsuno's old idea of making cid lose stats with each level.

>>713046539
>Hamedo only works on normal attacks anyway
Wrong, but that's what you'll be facing 99% of the time anyway.

what's been confirmed to be in the hard mode?

>>713046902
Some parts are nice

>>713010775
OH no, this whole shit is starting to look like a demake

>>713047049
Nothing has been confirmed besides that you can't use white magic with calculator. There is just some sperg here who's been spamming these threads for a week doomposting because FFT is site culture and he doesn't want people to play it.

>>713046743
As much as I hate YoshiP, I'm very relieved to know that Nomura has absolutely nothing to do with this project.

>>713047151
>FFT is site culture
lol

>>713047049
You can change difficulties on the fly. Abilities can get restricted. Wiegraf is apparently somehow very hard.

Enhanced version:
Their vision for FFT if it were to be made from scratch for the current generation of gamers.
Complete overhaul of the UI, with new features.
No new sub-events, no new characters.
Full voice acting. Script entirely re-written to accommodate voice acting and particular voice actors. Voice actors had some influence on the dialogue. Chanting for spells and techniques are voiced. Death cries are voiced. Start of character turn acknowledgement is voiced.
Story mostly unchanged.
Conversations that were cut from the original release due to time constraints were restored - Agrias, Cid, Mustadio, etc. post join. New character conversations. Some of these conversations only take place under certain very specific conditions. There are also some hidden branching dialogue options in some of the exchanges between Ramza and Gaffgarion.
Dialogue in battle may change depending on who you choose to deploy.
Enemy dialogue is mostly fixed.
Marquis Elmdore speaks quite a bit more. Additions to the story to explain why Marquis Elmdore became a Lucavi. Folmarv/Vormav also has new lines. There are new lines for various opponents.
The ending has changed as a result of the collaboration between Matsuno and Ramza’s voice actor Shinnosuke Tachibana.
While it is a Final Fantasy and Matsuno felt the need to make the ending a fantasy, he also heard some players were hoping for a more human vs. human focus and made some adjustments to that end.
The War of the Lions cinematics are returning, however, they will only be available to be watched in “The Chronicle/Brave Story” which is found in the menu. They did not use these scenes in the final release because they would not have been able to fit as much dialogue as they wanted to include.
Maximum of 50 units in party.

>>713047352
3 difficulty options which can be changed at any time - Casual, Standard, Tactical.
Casual - for those who want to purely enjoy the story.
Standard - matches the difficulty of the original version. They made it possible to use abilities which were previously useless like Charge +7 (it’s unclear if this is specific to this difficulty or not) and many other small details.
Tactical - for advanced players. Spamming Arithmetician Holy skills will not be sufficient to clear it. Wiegraf will make players cry.
The timing of Cloud joining has been moved to earlier in Chapter 4.
They thought they should not change the gameplay significantly. One example under consideration was the “charging” mechanic for spells which was born out of hardware limitations but they felt it would no longer be FFT if they changed that.

They used the smartphone version as a reference for the updated graphics. The mobile version graphics could not be directly carried over to large screens because the appearance of the map and characters were not consistent.

They increased the resolution while keeping the flashy effects to a minimum. Tweaks to on-screen effects. The pixel art is rendered in high resolution using a procedural process and then areas of concern are touched up such as the pixels on the face or hair.
When speaking about the addition of in-battle dialogue and new ways to enjoy battles, Matsuno - "Also, in the original version, the number of characters that could be used was limited, but this time there is a lot of it, and above all, the characters speak, so the script had to be rewritten to match the lines they would be speaking."

>>713046365
Blade Grasp is most likely getting fixed since it's bugged and lets you catch bullets and other missiles instead of just catching melee physical attacks like it's suppose to.

Maehiro shared two thoughts on this in the different interviews, one was more a joke and the other seems to be his real thought process as Matsuno commented on it on Twitter. These are his reasonings below. Matsuno didn't agree with his decision - he mostly took issue with the low percent chance/having to try many times to succeed reason.
That's (Elmdor's) identity, so you can't steal it. You can't steal an identity (laughs).
I thought for a moment, "Maybe it's okay in 'Enhanced'?", but in a simulation RPG where you develop your character while enjoying the story, repeatedly stealing something that has a success rate of only a few percent means repeating a very meta action for that moment. I think it's perfectly fine to acquire or destroy something during the course of a battle, but as a director, I couldn't bear to repeat a specific action over and over again just for that one purpose, so I gave up.

>>713010775
How many GBs is this game going to be?

>>713047352
Sounds like my way of playing with mostly generics is gonna suck. Bah, i was hoping the new dialogue was extra scenes, if it's in-battle dialogue i'm just gonna watch it on YT. I don't care for bringing mandatory units in battle just so i can see dialogue.

>>713016489
Reminder that these same people who repeatedly fail to preserve their own shit, also want to make private archiving illegal.

Matsuno originally wanted to try to make a story and see how it would change if someone in later generations dramatized it. In that sense, he thought it would be interesting if FF12 was not a true continuation of FFT, rather a work of fiction written by a later author. If it was written by a historian instead of a novelist, it would feature only humans and no Bangaa or Viera or other races.

Hiroyuki Ito originally strengthened T.G. Cid to match his lore. Matsuno actually wanted to make Cid grow weaker every level because he was such an old man (age 56).

Cloud was originally added to the 1997 release because Matsuno begged Sakaguchi and Kitase for permission.

The original release lost 5 months of development time because they originally started with a concept mirroring Ogre Battle before Sakaguchi told them to restart using a grid-based tactical design.

Much of the original project was cut due to the accelerated development time.

The 'Charging' mechanic was created because the PlayStation seek speed was too slow to move the needle to the specific position needed to display the animation for abilities with large graphical demands such as summoning magic.

The art was originally much more intricate and gradually became more low-poly to meet the 60 FPS threshold.

>Ito made Cid broken

>>713009791

>>713047295
I've been here since 2008 and he's right. FFT has always been loved here.

>>713009241 (OP)
kek what fucking hacks

>focus on deleted scenes and the like due to the game's rushed development over bloat from a psp port
>th-they don't c-care about ARt, fucking DEMAKE cashgrab
holy fuck

>>713039972
>They don't have budget constraints now and they're adding it.
That doesn't mean they always intended it. This is weird reasoning.
They could easily be adding it now because they think it's expected and the game won't sell as much without it.

>>713047860
>liking a very popular game is unique to us! nobody else likes it!
LOL

>>713047998
>is unique to us
When did I say it was unique to us? Why are underage third worlders who got here in the last few years so dumb?

>>713047951
>They could easily be adding it now because they think it's expected and the game won't sell as much without it.
By that logic, they'd have added voice acting to the Pixel Remasters and DQ3HD.

>>713047998
Who are you quoting

>>713048115
what the fuck do you think culture means bro lol open a fucking dictionary you stupid faggot

>>713048427
>culture means something completely unique to a specific group
God, you third worlders are fucking retarded.

>game is a remaster of the original and not a subsequent version that came later
>still has more content anyway
>"DEMAKE, DEMAStER, I'M NOt PAYING FOR ROMS"
"cut" content really makes ya'll go full retard, huh? greedy....

>>713048502
>still has more content anyway
But it's literally the same game?

>>713048502
>still has more content anyway
To be seen.

>>713048474
yeah, it do

>>713048474
Not him but you should take his advice and open that dictionary.

Why did Squeenix decide to go full Shakespeare in localizations of their games? Is there some Shakespeare westaboo in the company? Why didn't they write the original JP script in a similarly archaic manner?

>>713009241 (OP)
>still giving Squenix your money in 2025
NGMI

>>713048474
Uhh. Yeah.

the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.

>>713048502
This retard is really trying to equate some optional dialog depending on unique characters in your party with new jobs, new guest characters, new scenes, new battles, multiplayer mode, etc. Fucking lmao

>>713048740
No definition of the word culture includes the stipulation that it be unique to a group of people. You should actually open a dictionary before you tell other people to do the same.

>>713048850
And where does it say unique to a nation or group? Where's the world that means those customs, arts, social institutions or achievements are exclusive to one group?

>>713048562
They're adding new story sequences and QoL updates like an earlier recruitment of Cloud, cause the original was rushed. Did you not read the full article? Hell, we've seen anime cutscenes despite their claim of no WotL content

>>713048995
FFT is beloved classic. Everyone likes it.

>>713048832
idk about the rest of the Ivalice games, but FFXII's development was taking so long for other parts of the game to come down the pipeline that the localization team had time to give it a Shakesperean script with actual Shakesperean trained actors.

>>713049084
>Hell, we've seen anime cutscenes
We've seen a new opening and that's it

>>713049076

par·tic·u·lar
/pə(r)ˈtikyələr/
adjective
adjective: particular

1.
used to single out an individual member of a specified group or class.

>>713049287
The word particular is pointed at the group of people, not the things that make up their culture. Are you pretending to be retarded or are you actually an ESLfag?

It's fundamentally a remake, like FF7 "remaster" and HD Kingdom Hearts; they didn't have the source code and had to work off of reference, so it's a miracle it's coming at all. Yet, all you fags can do is cry over two bloated bonus jobs and that faggot from ff12 lmao

>>713049195
>"No definition of the word culture stipulates that those things be unique to a group of people"
>anon's whose culture is being an illiterate fucking retard posts a definition of the word that does not include being specific to that group of people
Good job, anon. Good job. 2 nations can have the same customs. Those customs are part of their cultures. That culture is not unique to either nation, but it's still part of both nation's cultures.

>>713049527
It's a demaster

>>713048197
They're different kinds of games. More weird reasoning.

>>713049537
When something is universal it stops being culture.
After all, liking Ghostbusters is site culture.

>>713049573
"demaster" isn't a word, you underage retard

>>713046902
the jobs were ass, some additional scenes were nice, the translation is way too flowery, argath's zombie fight is atrocious, the multiplayer is "who gives a shit" tier

>>713028986
Not that anon, but they also said no new scenarios. So the words are just being added to existing scenes and battles.

>>713049578
>Square was putting voice acting in games they could afford to voice all the major lines for in the 90s, and that got more and more common until all their new games had voice acting in the 2000s
>they must only be adding voices to this because they think it needs to sell
>because this tactics RPG is so wildly different than turn based RPGs, which obviously don't need it to sell
Your logic is flawed. But if you truly believe what you're saying, just go ask Matsuno on twitter if they didn't want voices or couldn't add them in for the original. He readily responds to people there and he can validate your mental gymnastics if you're right. But we both know you know you're not right, so you won't do that and instead will pretend you're retarded leaps in logic hold water.

>>713049747
Demake, Demaster, both are words that describe this slop.

>>713049287
Singling something out still doesn't imply its traits are unique though?

>>713049639
>When something is universal it stops being culture.
This is you making up definitions for words that don't actually exist. Try opening up a dictionary sometime.

>>713049639
There's nothing that is considered universal culture. As ubiquitous as English and Jeans are, they are still equivocaly American culture. I know it will shock you, but not everyone on the planet has seen Ghostbusters, and that would be still under the umbrella of American Hollywood culture.

>>713050018
>not everyone on the planet has seen Ghostbusters
Holy
fucking
retard

>>713049817
>they did it in some other games and they did it in the PS2 era so they definitely meant it for FFT and just had budget constraints
Nah.
>if you don't go pester this guy on twitter you're conceding
fucking lol

>>713049527
Also a bunch of gear, in particular for weapons that have early weapons and then never get any late game updates like axes.
Also, Reis' story actually has an ending instead of just stopping.

>>713016593
zoomer retardation

>>713050189
>Nah.
Actually, yes. Your idea that they specifically didn't want to do it is retarded.
>pester
Fucking lol indeed. If you weren't an ignorant, retarded monkey you'd know that Matsuno likes talking to fans about his games on twitter. Outside of things he's not allowed to answer, he answers all questions in detail. You have no leg to stand on here, dumb faggot.

>>713050331
>in particular for weapons that have early weapons and then never get any late game updates like axes.
Why are there so many people in these threads that speak so confidently about a game they've never played?

>>713044035
DK and OK can’t risk fucking up the balance of the game when you only get them from obscene grinding/you plan on bumrushing it from the start.

This lazy port will kill Matsuno’s career for good this time

>>713050707
There are 3 axes in FFT. The battle axe, the giant axe, and the slasher. Culminating in an amazing attack value of 16. WotL adds two more axes with values that actually line up with ch 4 weapons.
Archers suck in FFT for other reasons and wotl doesn't fix that, but there are no good bows in FFT. None. The only good bows are in WotL.

>>713043953
Sad

>>713051218
>Culminating in an amazing attack value of 16
Yeah, that's an endgame value retard. The strongest sword is only 14.

>>713009906
>I dont remember much about WOTL aside from Balthazar or whatever his name was, was there anything else?
Balthier and Luso
2 new jobs
Multiplayer which had some exclusive items tied to it
A chunk of new quests

>>713051416
Luso also makes poaching tolerable. Something it never was before.

>>713009241 (OP)
>re-release game
>cut content instead of adding it

this industry is beyond saving

>>713050459
>Your idea that they specifically didn't want to do it is retarded.
There's no evidence at all to suggest they specifically intended voice acting but
couldn't do it. This whole discussion has been you reaching and making dumb leaps of logic.
>you'd know that Matsuno likes talking to fans about his games
That doesn't change the retardation of "if you don't jump through this hoop you concede". It doesn't work like that, but every post you've made has been full of illogical shit so I shouldn't be surprised.

>>713009241 (OP)
>cut content from old game
>sell it for 50$ + tip + future dlc that brings back the content they cut

square lmao

>>713052025
not all content is good
the argath fight is awful and its exclusion is the correct decision

>>713052025
>future dlc that brings back the content they cut
They won't though. Just like the pixel remasters, they'll just leave the content out and call it a day. Bug patches are the best it anyone can hope for.

>>713052143
It's the right call.

>>713052025
If it's anything like the other versions, modders will fix it.

>>713052346
Keep dreaming buddy.

>>713052015
>There's no evidence at all to suggest they specifically intended voice acting but
>couldn't do it.
There is, but you're just ignoring it and making excuses that are completely retarded like "They're only doing it now because they think they need it to sell even though they don't do that for all their remasters."
>That doesn't change the retardation of "if you don't jump through this hoop you concede". It doesn't work like that
Nice goalpost move. First it was "I don't want to bother him" and now it's "W-Well it's dumb anyways." You don't know shit. You clearly don't follow Matsuno or anything he says, and all of your logic is worthless retard logic. The voice actors that Matsuno and the remaster team work with will enhance the game. You being an angry idiot won't change that.

>>713052143
My favorite is when they patch up one modern version and not the others. Like Zodiac age on switch and xbox was patched to let you carry your gear into ng+, while they didn't bother patching the playstation version.

>>713052450
They added the WOTL stuff to the PSX version for example.

>>713052123
>not all content is good
you mom was pretty good last night

>>713052825
>they dumped diarrhea all over this steak, they fixed it