The Minecraft movie was as huge hit. The Monster Hunter film failed at the box office. They're both fairly similar projects, but I think maybe the problem is that Monster Hunter takes itself too seriously. It should have had a B plot where Meowscular Chef is transported to the human world and a woman falls in love with him. Monster Hunter isn't an IP you can pull an Enemy Mine with. It's a dumb as rocks Japanese hack and slash game.

>>713056136 (OP)
Today's culture values goofy movies. That's why something as awful as Deadlool/Wolverine grossed one billion dollars. Serious and edgy movies had their time and will have it again, but right now, your Barbie/Deadpool/Aquaman/Marvel flick better have five jokes per minute.

>isekai a nerd into monster hunter
>give him powers equal to the average hunter
>watch him decimate the local dinosaur population, making hats out of their testicles

This wouldve sold

>>713056136 (OP)
It flopped because people knew it was gonna be shit because that faggot director only makes movies that has his wife in them. It was nothing like Monster Hunter. That Legends of the Guild movie, as shitty as it was animated, was a perfect Monster Hunter film in comparison and was actually faithful.

Serious vidya movies fucking suck and are stupid as sin
a videogame is not a serious thing it's a toy
Same for movies about .... lol comic book superheroes
The public rightfully derides this slop for being pretentious.

>>713056408
>It was nothing like Monster Hunter.
What do you mean by that?
>That Legends of the Guild movie, as shitty as it was animated, was a perfect Monster Hunter film in comparison and was actually faithful.
What do you mean? The live action film is canon. It's 100% faithful to the source material. The Monster Hunter team worked on it directly, approving every character, the script, the monsters, all of it.

What specifically is "unfaithful" about the film? Bearing in mind Capcom co-wrote it and it was based on super secret deep lore stuff that has only been shared with Paul W.S. Anderson and nobody else.

>>713056407
That might be popular in Japan, but there was always a need to downplay the animal cruelty and/or whaling allegories inherent to Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter has this bullshit line about how we need to hunt the monsters to understand them which is the same line Japan peddles to explain why they need to blow up more whales to find out why they fear humans. That doesn't play well in a photorealistic live action film. You really notice how the movie goes out of its way to present scenarios where our characters are fighting for their lives against hostile monsters, not against monsters just minding their own business.

>>713056408
The way Capcom view Monster Hunter and the way nerds view Monster Hunter seems to be completely disconnected. The Monster Hunter movie is a project they were very happy with, and were very proud to work on, and it reflects their vision of the IP. The fact that a number of online MH fans don't get that tells you that their idea of what MH is is very different to Capcom's. For example, the whole dimensional travel thing. That is foundational to the setting. The reason the MH world is post-post-apocalyptic is because forces from another reality came through the portals and ravaged the world. That's canon. That's the backstory Capcom provided for the movie, which is EXPLICITLY canon to MH World. There's no dodging this, people can fucking cope all they want.

>>713056136 (OP)
>make monhun film an isekai so that you can still put in coca cola and hershey's product placement despite that not making sense in a fantasy world
doomed to fail, absolute cashgrab. i say this as someone who likes his RE movies. there is the other issue of the film, it does not pay homage to kaiju films of the past. the RE movies understand the lineage of RE, basically being honest attempts at making cheesy horror flicks from the 80s and 90s into a game. he did not understand monster hunter and the history of kaiju/toku film. instead, we got a whole sequence dedicated to copying alien/aliens with the main badass woman character going through tight spaces with a flamethrower while loads of buglike monsters could attack at any moment.

>>713057128
>have hunter escort a research caravan
>monster shits all over it
>"go hunt that [insert monster here]"
This happens in game, so I don't see why they can't do it here.
Monster hunter quests often give pretty good reasons why they want a specific monster dead and have a whole team against poachers so

>>713056408
>That Legends of the Guild movie, as shitty as it was animated, was a perfect Monster Hunter film
It was too edgy, though.

No, monster hunter was a bad movie because it tried to be a "horror" movie with military isekai with some "badass woman".
If it was just a regular dude tossed in or just a story in the universe normally it would have at least been okay.

>>713057789
The movie's core visual influence is Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker where Naked Snake fights Ratholos with an RPG. I thought it captured that pretty well.

>>713058180
If Artemis was just a regular person people would complain that it was unbelievable that she could survive in the hostile environment. People always claim that characters need to have convincing backstories or they're Mary Sues.

>>713057802
What if the research caravan was intruding into the monster's territory? Think about crocodiles. People don't like the idea of crocs being killed unless they have encroached into human territory and hurt people. If people are going into croc territory and getting hurt, it's their fault.

>>713056136 (OP)
Spiders

>>713058689
how does that contradict what i said? taking an extremely easily missed bonus mission in a non monhun game has your main visual inspiration is a retarded way to go about things. that still misunderstands/ignores the kaiju/toku influence of the series and is the completely wrong starting point. it is retarded.

>>713057789
>nstead, we got a whole sequence dedicated to copying alien/aliens
He made Alien vs. Predator, and the film copies AvP pretty heavily. AvP was itself a remake of the movie Enemy Mine. That's why there are two protagonists who can't speak each other's language. The improvised flamethrower with the spray can holding back the creatures is a pretty obvious Dog Soldiers reference, having watched Dog Soldiers last night.
>he RE movies understand the lineage of RE, basically being honest attempts at making cheesy horror flicks from the 80s and 90s into a game.
Actually it's not that simple. See. Capcom saw Resident Evil as being Tokusatsu. Anderson understood this a lot better than Resident Evil fans did. Resident Evil has a natural inclination towards superheroes fighting evil mirror versions of themselves. Hence Alice vs. Wesker. But also all the classic RE characters eventually turned into superheroes.

That said...
>it does not pay homage to kaiju films of the past
How does it not do this? What do you mean by that?

>>713056136 (OP)
It failed because it was directed by Paul Anderson and was another vanity project for his wife

>>713058959
Can you explain how the film misunderstood the kaiju genre?

>>713056136 (OP)
i loved minecraft it was fun from beginning to end and i think critics have lost their minds

>>713059059
I know Boll made most of his movies based on a loophole in German tax law, but how does this guy keep getting money?

>>713059059
I am so jealous of that fucker.

>>713059059
the absolute STATE of bong genetics. completely overtaking the Milas slav genes

>>713059136
Anderson's Resident Evil films made 1.3 billion dollars at the box office, and that gave him a lot of leeway. He's also incredibly pleasant and well liked by actors, VFX people, general producers. Even though his new film In the Lost Lands was a failure, George R.R. Martin really liked, and the head of Constantin Film was very supportive of Paul.

Paul's next movie is The House of the Dead with SEGA. SEGA loved his vision for the franchise, adapting HOTD3 into a 90 minute fast paced, super violent, super scary horror action film. They shoot later this year.

Capcom have always liked Anderson. He has always been very agreeable when they've asked him for things, and he has always sought out their advice and input for his films. They loved the Monster Hunter movie. They were disappointed it didn't do better, but they didn't have to deal with a stubborn director that refused to listen to them. He incorporated all their ideas like the isekai stuff, the dimensional travel, the ancient civilization, the ecology, etc.

>>713056408
This lol. Even if Paul is seething in the thread.

Can someone explain to me where people got the idea that the Isekai thing wasn't Capcom's idea even though it absolutely was? People talk about the Monster Hunter movie like Capcom didn't micromanage every aspect of the plot. I'm confused. What do people think Monster Hunter is?

>>713059331
thanks chatgpt

>>713057451
Capcom doesn’t care about IP integrity when it comes to any of their games being adapted to film. To even suggest this means you have literally low IQ.

>>713059331
>He's also incredibly pleasant and well liked by actors, VFX people, general producers.
I would think there’s at least a bit of bad blood between him and the broader filmmaking community for getting that woman maimed and that other fella crushed to death during the production of the final chapter

>>713059476
>Capcom doesn’t care about IP integrity when it comes to any of their games being adapted to film.
Capcom have script approval rights. Production can't proceed until they sign off. That's why Alice was created. So they didn't have to deal with Capcom's "Jill wouldn't do that" meddling.

>>713059509
Nobody has been able to pin the accident on him. The insurance was Screen Gem's fault. The accident itself was the stunt coordinator's fault, plus the cut-rate crew carrying out the camera work. Jeremy Bolt comes off looking bad, though. He made assurances that were not lived up to, and there's no way around that. However, Paul was too busy having a mental breakdown to be present during those meetings, so he couldn't be held liable for anything said there.

He went back to South Africa and shot Monster Hunter 2 years later and there were no issues. What happened on TFC was a clusterfuck, but nobody has ever been able to pin the accident or onset safety issues on him specifically. There was no recorded incident where he was warned of safety issues and ignored advice, that sort of thing. That said, I imagine he is incredibly paranoid on his new movies of something going wrong.

>>713059304
I think she’s cute

>>713058753
Bro that was even more of an issue with her in the movie.
The literal only training she got during the movie was doing the fucking demon dance activation pose. Her backstory was shit.

>>713058753
>"horror", when the only actual horror bit was the movie's only black dude getting infested with spider eggs

>>713056136 (OP)
I'm going to be completely honest, if it wasn't for the memes, the Minecraft movie would've gone poorly.
Hell, I've seen people online looking to go see the movie 9999999 times just to get to the chicken jockey gag and chuck popcorn everywhere.
Everyone that sees it seems to come out with the same "it's shit but I had fun" opinion, regardless of whether or not popcorn was thrown.

Monster Hunter had a few issues that kept people from watching it, despite the fact I loved the movie:
>as cool as it is, having a movie where most characters don't speak the viewer's language is risky as hell, people REALLY don't like subtitles
>all the ads were "MERICA FUCK YEAH MILITARY STRONGK HOO RAH" which put off the MH fans, the only people who would've actually watched it
>no interesting marketing at all, other than "generic protag pose holding weapon" and the USA USA USA stuff, which, again, only put people off
>Tony Jaa doesn't have the pull he used to have (tbqh he's always kinda been an underdog though)
>only had like, one actual famous person with any pull at all in the whole movie, and Ron Perlman isn't really one of the guys you go out of your way to watch
>didn't have the budget to show more than like 5 monsters the whole movie
>vidya movies in general almost always do poorly, minus like 3 ever
>Monster Hunter itself isn't a franchise that people flock to that much outside of people who are already fans, and new MHW fans don't care enough about the franchise

>>713056408
>nothing like Monster Hunter
Nigga, other than the lack of a hub town (they probably couldn't afford a set like that) the movie's just knob-slobbering of Monster Hunter World (while carefully minimizing the onscreen time for any monsters), you must've skipped MHW.
Hell, the Meowscular Chef and the Handler are in it, and that arm slingshot thing.

>>713060063 (me)
Misclicked the first link, should've been
>>713058180

>>713059726
He's gonna make a LoTR tier classic at some point, probably some dead franchise like Battletech or Duke Nukem. I got a feeling...

>>713060063
>Nigga, other than the lack of a hub town (they probably couldn't afford a set like that)
That is actually almost certainly the case. Capcom mentioned that originally the film's script was way longer and much grander in scope, but it had to be cut down for budget.

Something that is kind of obvious is that when you talk about Monster Hunter online, most people clearly haven't seen it. It's very similar to Metal Gear Survive (which I think partially inspired the movie). The people who hate MG Survive the most absolutely didn't play Survive. They don't know what they're talking about. They have this idea that the move is "nothing like MH" because they've never seen it and they're just parroting complete nonsense. They're impossible to persuade or argue with because they don't know what they're talking about.

>>713059726
>>713060167
While the TFC accidents were tragic, the only real reason they have traction online is because nerds have a hate boner for Anderson. It's why you rarely hear about the death of a stuntwoman on Deadpool 2 despite that deaht being completely preventable and being caused by them pushing an inexperienced black stuntwoman to do a stunt beyond her abilities because they didn't want to nugget up a more experienced white one.

>>713059726
It would seem that Mr. Anderson was in fact at fault
>In 2019 Jackson sued the producers for "elevating financial considerations over safety." She and the crane operator both claimed in her lawsuit that director Anderson had changed his mind about the angle of the filming, and gave the crane operator the order to raise the camera one second later than he had done in the two rehearsals immediately before.

I rewatched Monster Hunter recently, and it's... it's fine. It's not great, but it's fine. It has likeable characters. It has some really nice visuals. It has all sorts of fun easter eggs for fans of the games. The vitriol towards it seems largely baseless. And because the film failed at the box office there's not a lot of people to push back against it.

>>713060063
>>713060136
Please, the whole nercylla thing and diablos was being played out as a poor attempt at horror.
Just because it was bad doesn't mean it wasn't clearly what was intended.
>>713060454
Because people would prefer to forget it even exists.

>>713060167
Paul already has Event Horizon, which is an incredibly influential and important film. His career is ultimately held back his genre affinities. Imagine if Peter Jackson never stopped making splatter movies. It would be nice if he'd tackle fantasy or something. Proper fantasy. Not an action movie with fantasy set dressing.

I hope that The House of the Dead will be a good movie. But it'll never be anything than a good horror movie.

>>713059110
it paid more homage to bayformers than any major toku flick.

>>713060348
>She and the crane operator both claimed in her lawsuit that director Anderson had changed his mind about the angle of the filming, and gave the crane operator the order to raise the camera one second later than he had done in the two rehearsals immediately before.
The problem is directors change stunts all the time. They were doing stunt rehearsals. The point is to refine the stunts during this stage. It's up to the stunt coordinator to ensure that everything is safe. The accident happened because the crane operator fucked up, and due to various circumstances (that can't be pinned on Anderson, for whatever reason) she wasn't wearing a helmet and wasn't in radio communication with the crew. Jeremy Bolt and the Screen Gems people should have have had something pinned on them, though.

>>713060531
>Because people would prefer to forget it even exists.
The problem is that Capcom essentially cowrote the movie, and it reflects their ultimate vision for where the franchise will go. It's like watching Resident Evil fans coping about his Resident Evil movies, claiming he doesn't understand Resident Evil and someone will make a "faithful" movie someday, all the while the videogames become more and more like those movies because that was always where they were going.

>>713060693
Valid point, I forgot he made that movie. Still a great film.

Because Jack Black is more marketable than Mila whats her face. Because everyone associates her face with those awful RE movies. This movie feels like a relic of a bygone era when crap like that and Underworld or Van Hesling or The Matrix were what was in.

>>713056136 (OP)
It failed because MH is a stupid fucking idea for a movie.

>>713056136 (OP)
It didn't fail.
It got review bombed by Chinks farming good guy ccp points because of a dad joke and they pulled the movie from theaters worldwide without even giving it a chance.gptnp

>>713060737
>it paid more homage to bayformers
It draws more inspiration from Dune than from Bayformers. Again, what about the film isn't like Godzilla or whatever. You need to be more specific here.

>>713061042
There is some truth to that. The film was coproduced by Tencent (hence why the film is so ambiguous about the nationality of the soldiers), and when it was banned in China, it fucked over its box office prospects because it was so clearly made with the Chinese market in mind.

>>713060994
You're not wrong. Monster Hunter was a passion project that all the studios turned down originally because they thought it was a bad idea. It was only after MH World was a big success that they decided to try to milk it, only to discover that megafan Paul W.S. Anderson had bought the rights years ago.
>>713060531
I thought the nest scene was really scary for a PG-13 movie.

The film is more boring than it is insulting. What an accomplishment.

>>713056136 (OP)
>Jin says “Look at my knees!”, to which the other character replies: “What kind of knees are these?” “Chi-nese!”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/monster-hunter-film-pulled-china-scene-sparks-backlash

>>713056815
>The public rightfully derides this slop
Capeshit movies are still popular

>>713056136 (OP)
The worst thing about Monster hunter is there won't be a sequel

>>713061064
>It draws more inspiration from Dune than from Bayformers.
>he says as he posts the scene that copies the scorpion transformer attack in the middle east from bayformers
lol

>>713061923
>movie ends in a sequel hook
>or at least bait to finish the plot in a game to ensure free sales
>movie's entire existence gets wiped from the record after, like, one cosmetic MHW DLC and that's it
Oof.

>>713056136 (OP)
I think it was broadly fine, maybe some slight issues in the way they force milla but hey, I guess the director has a hard on for his wife and that's not a bad thing
However, comparing MH with the absolute behemoth of a franchise that is Minecraft is silly. MH is not that niche but it's not on the same level.
It's not a great movie by any means but it's serviceable. Mediocre. 5/10.

>>713062270
I got the dvd but only watched it once cause depression about greentext

>>713059789
>put up camera
>nooo ahaha stopp ahaha
>press stop
???????????????????????????????

>>713056136 (OP)
I've watched MH recently. The movie wastes too much time on trying to be Enemy Mine but more meh and too little on being about hunting monsters. Like what's MH about? Hunting giant monsters. This means we have to waste what feels like quarter of the screentime on Mila and that hunter guy being distrustful to each other. If the budget wasn't enough to pack it full of monster action then the whole project should've ended on drawing board.

>>713056136 (OP)
I didn't know David Bowie was in the movie.

>>713062127
>>he says as he posts the scene that copies the scorpion transformer attack in the middle east from bayformers
No, it actually copies the Dune stuff around sand worms. I don't get why people think the film is like Transformers. The military play such a small role in the film. Did they... just watch the trailers or something and make their minds up that way?
>>713062270
Capcom don't actually own the rights to the film. But the film is canon.

>>713056136 (OP)
It didn't have chicken jockey

Personally I just hate it with a passion where a setting with a non-Earth universe feels the need to cross over the setting with IRL Earth, because they assume modern audiences are incapable of emphasizing with any character that isn't literally them.

>>713059789
put on a bra

>>713056136 (OP)
It didnt feel like monster hunter. Monster hunter feels like you and 3 other normal guys go out to fight natures greatest beasts. Its a positive story of mankind living with and occasionally ocercoming nature through wit, strength, teamwork and courage. You save villages from monsters.
The movie wasnt that.
Also
>actually the lore for monster hunter is post apocalypse and science bad and blah blah
Gay and stupid so Ive decided its wrong.