Why does Morrowind get all the attention when Neverwinter Nights exists. This game is just begging for a Faerun Rebuilt project.

>>713060319 (OP)
>too complicated for normies
>not complicated enough for autists
>modern DNDfags have never played anything before 5E and never will

what's your favourite class? i've only played monk (i'm playing now but i've only ever gotten to act 2) and i like it but some part of me thinks i should play a fighter so i can make use of all the cool magic items i find.
do you keep one character through all the different campaigns or start fresh for each one? i've never tried multiplayer or any campaigns except the vanilla one

>>713061872
I like to do hero runs, where you module hop with one guy. I tend to use a fighter

Does Neverwinter Nights require the same thing as OpenMW for Morrowind to be decent to play?

>>713062065
no, I know the original works on Windows 7, and I know Enhanced Edition works on Windows 10 & 11, idk where the original stands with Windows 10 & 11, and all the mods are compatible with both versions

>>713060319 (OP)
First person RPGs are more popular than CRPGs.
Also a large part of the reason why bethesda games have such good modding support is because of the tools bethesda makes available to modders

>>713062065
na just the game on steam and it has workshop support so modding is easy

>>713061872
Paladin is busted in the original campaign because you fight lots of undead, they even give you a holy avenger later iirc. The fighter/bard/RDD combo can also delete everything in all three main campaigns, makes the game extremely easy so it's not as fun
Last time I went through SoU I used this one and was pretty fun: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/nwnecbguild/green-knight-of-ehlonna-druid-28-ftr-4-cot-8-t2353943.html, that forum has a lot of interesting builds but they're mostly for multiplayer, still worth a look though.

>>713062263
>>713062387
Cool, I'll grab it for my Steam Deck.

>>713060319 (OP)
Yeah, it's pretty fun. I played both this and Morrowind a lot when I was younger.

>>713061219
Sex with emotionally damaged paladin.

>>713060319 (OP)
Couldn't tell you, because I could literally never finish NWN due to saves corrupting every single time I tried.

>>713060319 (OP)
Morrowind was on Xbox.

>>713060319 (OP)
I HATE FORGOTTEN REALMS I HATE FORGOTTEN REALMS

>>713060319 (OP)
Point and click games are just not as engaging.

>>713060319 (OP)
>RTWP DnD game
>no good party mechanics
There’s your problem.
NWN is only good for peresistant worlds and custom modules. It was VERY popular for that but the time has passed.
Nowadays it’s just a DnD game with the classic DnD game gameplay, only you can only play one dude

>>713062346
I don't understand why every dev doesn't do what Bethesda does by releasing mod tools. It keeps your game relevant for years instead of being forgotten after 2 weeks.

>>713060319 (OP)
>Faerun
nobody cares about dnd setting

>>713060319 (OP)
If you want to rebuild it in the new engine, you need to make it VERY modable. The NWN1 is all about modding.

>>713067493
Tons of games release dev tools that nobody ever does anything with, outside of maybe one forum on a far flung corner of the internet where one person releases one shitty level they made.
Fuck man now I'm remembering when my friend showed me this random hunting game he played as a kid, and the devs had released a full level editor, it had an ATV in it so I made a small tool to generate positions for geometry to make ramps out of the haybale asset
I'm with you that every dev should do it btw, along with 5 year source code releases, but yea tons of games do it and it doesn't change their relevance at all. Hell ubisoft released level editors for their games for decades and like literally 10 people in the entire world care about it out of the millions that play them, now mind you yea those don't compare to something like the TESCS or GECK but still.

>>713060319 (OP)
I was on a persistent server and it had to be restarted daily because of memory leaks

>>713067493
Some games do but they started late, whereas bethesda has built up their mod community from the early 2000s. And some devs just hate modding entirely.

>>713061872
I liked playing dex-based monks
-go fast
-notice hidden stuff while going fast
-archers across the way? Pull out your bow
>>713061872
Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark use the same character
The Hero of Neverwinter (the character you’re playing now) is someone else

>>713060319 (OP)
>Neverwinter Nights
Please tell me more.
Arpg or Trpg?
Is the gameplay good? What about the envoirements and world? The artstyle in pic looks really pleasant.

>>713061872
Oh, do yourself a favor and DO NOT GET the thing where you get a free hit on a second adjacent enemy
You won’t be able to turn it off and it will wreck your single-target DPS

>>713068114
I loved it
The base game campaign is good
Shadows of Undrentide is kind of a snooze
Hordes of the Underdark is excellent

>>713067830
NTA but the quality of the tools really matters.
Also, the reason TES games get so much love is they're easy to add to. A lot of games in order to use the tools you'd have to make your own game or at least a level which is a much more daunting task than say adding a dungeon or short quest. The open world nature helps them a ton.
It's only once people get comfortable with small mods and the modding community becomes active that big mods are even looked at.

>>713068114
>Arpg or Trpg?
Neither; it's a RTwP CRPG. The gameplay is nonexistent. The environments and world are really generic IMO but that's subjective.

>Eye of the Beholder
>Eye of the Beholder 2
>Lord of Terror
What are other fun multiplayer modules?
I played through Aielund Saga with my group of friends but we thought it was pretty mediocre from act 3 on

>>713061219
I absolutely love the fact that 5e has a 2d6 maul.
I just cannot grasp how and why the older editions made greatswords and greataxes were always stronger than blunt weapons like the warhammer and mace. Like, how the fuck does an axe or sword do more damage than a heavy mass of steel swung at you at immense speed with the force of a semi truck? There is a reason those were the only weapons that could reliably fell a late medieval knight clad in plate.
So that is one thing e5 e did well compared to others like e1 and e3.5.

>>713068431
I'm deeply in to hacking communities, I partially agree with you ease-of-use is a factor, but I think it's more just about popularity. Bethesda games are very accessible, so they lend more to popularity, then they also have a somewhat easy to use tool (even if it does crash constantly) that they give you a step-by-step tutorial on how to use to make your own level in. There are quite a few popular games with large modding scenes that had no tools whatsoever, the community made them themselves (Look at Resident Evil 2 Remake, Monster Hunter World or Doom for good examples of this, and yes there are other adjacent games with tools but those were the ones the tools were designed for initially the others are just updates) while, for example, every Far Cry game has had a bundled level editor since 2008 but nobody used them until Ubisoft added an in-game browser for levels and a points reward system, and even then people really just used them for the points, but the tools have always been decent.

>>713061872
Pale master for dat finger of death the bony arm is also sick as fuck.
But shapeshifter comes close second.

>>713068746
>I just cannot grasp how and why the older editions made greatswords and greataxes were always stronger than blunt weapons like the warhammer and mace.
The trade off was that blunt weapons had a higher critical modifier but lower critical range as well. So on a 20 you innately do 3X with blunt weapons while swords threaten a critical on 19 or 20 but usually only do 2X. Exotic weapons broke that trend however and were all over the place in stats.

>>713061872
>what's your favourite class?
Wizard. C'mon, they're not called Bards of the Coast for a reason.

>>713069434
Wizards are based but you shouldn't use faggots of the coast as a reason for why

>>713060319 (OP)
>Rebuilt
kill yourself. the games are fine ass they are.

>>713060319 (OP)
I tried it and gave it a good few hours but I honestly hate playing with DND rules. To fucking hell with
>feats
>class feats
>general feats
>instant feats
>epic feats
>racial feats
>fucking feats
>skills
>spells
>effects

Whoever thought that taking your shoe off which requires the taking-off-shoe skill which will fail and you will die if you roll bad enough, would be fun needs to be executed. Be it tabletop or video games DND is for fucking retards that hate fun

half the chests in this game are locked, how are you meant to take any henchman besides a thief? i don't mind, just curious. i guess if you're a mage you get knock? i assume bash doesn't work on everything

>>713071326
OP means he wants more of Faerun in NWN, like Tamriel Rebuilt which just adds more stuff to Morrowind outside of Vvardenfell.