>completely overshadows its original

>completely forgotten fotm

SH2 remake improved:
>Angela
>Eddie
>Woodside apartments
>Hospital
>Labyrinth
>Hotel
>Combat
>Enemy variety
>Difficulty
>Graphics
>Length
>Number of endings
>Replay value
>Horror atmosphere and scares

SH2 Remake fucked up:
>Mary and Maria voice acting
>Maria's design
>Historical Society/Prison
>"Leave" and "In Water" endings

>>713067016 (OP)
Why did all the good animators have to piss out before giving her good content

>>713067016 (OP)
literally who

i like her video work

>>713067148
they ruined the dog ending by leaving out the gag credits images.

>>713067148
>Stray Souls: Silent Hill 2 Edition
>improvimg anything
lol

>>713067016 (OP)
Nah. It is one of the greatest remakes ever though. Can't wait for the SIlent Hill 1 remake

>>713067148
Remake Maria > OG Maria.

>>713069570
I wish they just went with 3.

>>713069795
3 loses half of its impact if you dont play 1 first

>>713067016 (OP)
Nah. Old Laura would've looked better if Bloober was actually skilled at 3D modelling.

>>713069570
>Nah. It is one of the greatest remakes ever
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>I hope that they butcher silent hill 1 too so I can finally play it!
Fuck off normalfag. No one forced you to pretend to be a "Silent Hill fan".

>>713070159
LOL still looks ugly.

>>713069837
This, if anything SH3 will be done after SH1 since it's the direct sequel. Maybe if they do SH4 they can finally make it a good game.

>>713067016 (OP)
Should I wait for SH1 remake? Or can I just play SH 2? Never played any SH games.
But also don‘t want to get spoiled.

>>713070179
says you, faggot.

>>713070251
SH2 is standalone but in the same universe. You can play it safely as it only has very tiny connections to 1 and 3 that you'd only pick up on if you'd played 1 and 3 already.

>>713070251
You can just play SH 2 since its a stand alone story.

>>713067016 (OP)
The easiest way to discern people who have never played it is by them not knowing this isn't a remake, but a sequel.

>>713070251
>Never played any SH games.
God, demake fags LOVE self reporting, huh?
>>713070301
Nice script that says slurs for you, nornalfag.

>>713070237
>>713069837
>>713069795
SH3 is definitely happening.

When it was first announced that "Project G" (now we know for certain it is SH1 Remake) was in early development, it was also announced that "Project H" was in the concept phase. Expect SH3 not long after SH1.

>>713070482
QQ

>>713067148
Are the shadows still broken in the remake? See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIvl8q_8Uvk&t=844s
If so, you can add that to the list.

>>713070453
Nope. It's a butchering.
>>713070842
No need to cry when called out.

>>713067049
fpbp

>>713071370
No, it's a sequel.

>>713070251
As >>713070453 pointed out, it's a bit iffy, because ostensibly it's a remake, and can be played as such, but if you dig even a little deeper you find out it's a de facto continuation of the original SH2, especially the extra endings.

>>713071617
>>713071667
No, it's retarded fanfiction made by a bunch of poles who don't understand silent hill. Go back.

>>713071702
No, it's a sequel, but hey, pic related is an """excellent""" SH title made by a 100% Japanese studio, with full creative control, as well as several Team Silent members on board.

Not even taking into account that EVROPA has been completely dominating the horror genre for the last 15 years.

>>713067016 (OP)
I played this like 16 times in a row when it came out because I played every ending then I actually got a key for the game so I got every steam cheevo, it's OKAY as something new for people who don't like silent hill, but like the idea of silent hill, but it's a bad remake and a deeply flawed game in general
A lot of the levels are way too long meaning your playthrough is slogging by Brookhaven when the original game is just a nicely paced movie that would be over by that point
The combat design is terrible when you actually understand it fully, it looks okay if you don't understand it but once you do it's paper thin in depth in addition to being prone to breaking and extremely exploitable, the original game's combat is super easy even on hard when you understand it, but at least it is actual combat, remake's is entirely a scripted rhythm game pretending not to be
The enemies are also too "aggro" for the narrative, the narrative of sh2 is supposed to be melancholic, you're supposed to feel bad for the enemies, they're pathetic and weak just like the person that inspired them, but in remake they're actually violent, the narrative connection you feel to james is lost through this because instead of getting the notion that you were putting down sick people, you get the notion that mary was a violent monster and james was just defending himself
The nightmare gets way too heavy way too quickly, they did actually explain this in the hidden lore so kudos for that I guess but I think it still hurts the tone of the game
The new puzzles being 90% basic arithmetic is so pathetic it's kind of funny
I liked the addition they made to hint you toward the NG+ endings and to hint you toward the alternate NG endings, those were legitimately a great addition
I DO like the goth angela mod and like 14 of my playthroughs were using it
All in all though I did NOT like the game as much as sh2, not at all
>why did you play it 16 times then
I have autism

>>713070159
literally all they had to do was make the cutscene models in-game

>>713071520

>>713070453
Only people who use Reddit know that it's a sequel. Are you going to pretend to have figured it out by yourself?

wait that reminds me...
why the fuck haven't i seen sex animations of laura yet?

>>713070378
>>713070414
Cool thanks!

>>713071908
You're referring to that one puzzle? It just serves as hard confirmation, but you have hints this is the case from the very start of the game, especially if you've played the original. It's obvious James has already gone through all those locations.

For fuck's sake, you find solved puzzles from the original game being replaced by different ones.

Remakes are worthless trash.

>>713069570
I played Silent Hill 1 at released

>>713070378
SH2 has more connections to SH4 than the other two.

>>713070179
I played Silent Hill 1 at release

>>713072000
Yep this is completely correct. I was just answering the question the best I could for a potential new player though.

>>713070159
Not even close. New Laura is an absolutely incredible beauty. A gem. They intentionally made her look kinda weird and chubby in the face though and added freckles

>>713072024
Sure, sure.

I think SH2R is trying to introduce a proper chronology to the cycles James is going through.

In Water -- Stillness -- Leave/Maria/Rebirth

With "Bliss" being the actual bad ending.

>>713072470
the time loop theory was always retarded

>>713072939
Bloober made it canon. Stay mad.

>>713073091
Poor quality fanfiction is not canon.

Haven't played. How is it a sequel?

>>713073347
There are a bunch of cryptic collectable photos in the game. They serve no purpose except for the cryptic messages written on them. See pic related.

The implication is that James has been getting the "In Water" or other bad ending for 20 years, and SH2 Remake is finally him getting the "Leave" ending and escaping the town

>>713073347
Its not.
>>713073471
Fanfiction.

>>713067148
>SH2 Remake fucked up:
>Historical Society/Prison
wait huh?? how? I found the prison scary and tense as fuck in the remake compared to its original.
I agree with the other points tho

>>713070658
>Project Heather
>set to premier in 2027
Aint no fucking way SH3 remake would already be showed in 2 years from now wtf. We'd be lucky to have a trailer of SH1R by 2027...let alone 3

>>713073347
>>713073508
the game's filled with completed content from sh2, in addition to the rebirth materials having been used already on the first playthrough, it's pretty clearly a sequel, and they don't even hide it they give you a special camera framing with a crt filter any time you interact with the old stuff

>>713073603
>small setpiece is turned in to a giant slog

Remake culture should fucking die

>>713073738
It has probably been delayed since. That article came out in April last year. My bet is they wanted SH1 for 2026 and SH3 for 2027. But SH1 in 2026 would clash with Silent Hill Townfall which is probably releasing next year.

>>713073792
It's fanfiction. Made by people who don't understand good writing and never made a good game ever. Not just that, they had no right to be involved with Silent Hill and are not the actual devs. Fuck off.

>>713073792
>>small setpiece is turned in to a giant slog
Naah speak for yourself, Prison level was some PEAK horror in the remake,
And if you wanna argue about "muh slog", you could argue by that logic that almost every single location became a "slog" .
Cant wait for SH1 remake to also become a kino """""slooooog"""".

>>713067148
>SH2 remake improved:

>SH2 Remake fucked up:
>>Mary and Maria voice acting
>>Maria's design
>>Historical Society/Prison
>>"Leave" and "In Water" endings
>>Angela
>>Eddie
>>Woodside apartments
>>Hospital
>>Labyrinth
>>Hotel
>>Combat
>>Enemy variety
>>Difficulty
>>Graphics
>>Length
>>Number of endings
>>Replay value
>>Horror atmosphere and scares
>

>>713073603
I just think it wasn't as much of a mindbend area in the remake as it was in the original. For example when James falls down into the well and there appears to be no way out... The original game made you desperate enough to resort to just try and hit every bit of the wall around you in hopes that it would crack. With the remake you already know that breaking down walls is a core game mechanic. Stuff like that.

I don't think "find the 3 keys to unlock the 3 objective areas!" resident evil style level design was appropriate for that area which is supposed to have more of a psychological horror impact. I really loved what they did for all of the other areas but I think they were wrong to expand on the prison THAT much.

>>713073948
oh you're saying it shouldn't be considered as a sequel because it's garbage, not that it isn't framed as a sequel
i forgive you for being an esl you're doing your best, i agree with you the game is dogshit

>>713074003
every location did become a slog that is my stance yes, pacing is important in a movie game

>>713073935
>My bet is they wanted SH1 for 2026
This is almost impossible unless they put some team of 1000 devs or some shit and work overtime endlessly.
They're already working on Cronos, and even if they didnt, theres no way they'd start on SH1R in early 2025 and release it only a year later. This isnt some pixel indie shit

>>713074003
>Prison level was some PEAK horror in the remake,

Did you find the Halo of the Sun? I just found it, and there's a demonic voice if you stand in the cell. Definitely spooky.

>>713074123
>SH2R
>movie game

>>713074117
Fair enough, these are decent arguments

>>713074126
I think you are underestimating the development timelines of these games. SH1 remake has been in development for several years now, at least since 2023 for sure if not even earlier. When they say that it was in the "pre-production phase" >>713070658 it means they actually have a lot of shit ready for it, unlike SH3 which was just in a concept phase at that time in 2024.

You also need to consider that they will be able to reuse a lot of assets for the 1 and 3 remakes. That is how Capcom for example was able to pump out almost annual releases of Resident Evil from 2017 to 2023.

I bet you that SH1 will be a 2027 game and SH3 will be a 2028 or 2029 game.

>>713074212
I am still blown away by how realistic the environments in this game look. Shame it is undermined by the shitty character models.

>>713074123
i'm going to elaborate on this as well, sh is a series designed to be played repeatedly, you're meant to play it over and over and over again getting other endings, ng+ items, learning the lore through repeated readings of memos, even sh2r follows this trend by having so many endings, however, how many people actually replayed the game entirely for each ending? i did, but i don't know a single other person that did, everyone i know just reloaded a save, or looked them up on youtube

as an example, how many sh2r fans are even aware that you can't skip the trick or treat show any more, a section you have to sit through doing nothing for 4 minutes every single playthrough, shit like that is unacceptable and sh2r is full of it
and then we get in to the fact that sh2r james is half the speed of original james, which compounds with how long the dungeons are in r

>>713074421
>I am still blown away by how realistic the environments in this game look

Yeah, they look good, but so do other modern games. I played Kingdom Come 2, which had equally good graphics.

>>713070159
fuck your AI slop

>>713074558
>how many people actually replayed the game entirely for each ending? i did, but i don't know a single other person that did

I'm not doing 1 run = 1 ending, but I'm doing multiple runs. I'm following a guide right now to get 100% collectibles (the alternative is super tedious wall hugging) and it also tells you how to get multiple endings in one run. However, one of the endings requires In Water, which I don't have. That means you can't even get them all in one run. I'll be doing like.... 4 runs.

>>713067016 (OP)
I think you meant pic related instead

>>713074365
Thx for the clarification anon, i hope you're right. Im very optimistic about SH1R and have good expectations, i hope we see more of it sooner than later then

>>713075414
grim

>>713067148
I know this is bait but "improved horror and atmosphere scares", the fucking game played like nuRE, what sort of "atmospheric scares" are we talking about? being swarmed by nurses and you had to bro swat them all beat-em up style?

The only scares the game gave me was when the iframes locked when i'd be banging up a wall and some crawlers suddenly materialized on my back and couldn't do nothing about it.

OK nuRE clone, very little to do with SH2.

>>713075709
Next time play the game to completion.
Also in hard mode
>the iframes locked when i'd be banging up a wall and some crawlers suddenly materialized on my back and couldn't do nothing about it.
Works fine on my PC, poorfag.

>>713075878
I actually finished the thing.
Bitch, its game mechanic, it has nothing to do with PC performance.
And if you dont know that, you clearly didn't play the game and are just here to farm (you) because your life is just that sad.

>>713076089
Hit a nerve did I? lol, try again I finished the game on hard mode and highly enjoyed it.
>m-m-m-muh game mechanic!! it sucks!!
git gud faggit. You can deal with most enemies just dodging and attacking properly.

>>713074780
I would if I could