literally why would you ever worship a daedra

why do so many daedric princes simp for lorkhan

The Daedra Princes do things. You can objectively observe their influence and sometimes even speak to them and get physical rewards for serving them. Meanwhile the Nine Divines do fuck all.
NPCs are very clear about this when the issue is brought up.

>>713072601
Akatosh saved the entire world from the oblivion crisis

>>713072503 (OP)
Because I also love murder.

>>713072554
He's the best around

>>713072503 (OP)
S'wit question.

>>713072554
Lorkhan fucked with the Aedra, therefore he a gud boy

>>713072601
Nine Divines
>You're a decent person? Just go to church or a shrine and get a blessing to rid you of illness or injury and make you strong. Do this whenever you like! I love you!
Daedric Princes
>Go and torture everyone in the nearest orphanage and trap their souls for eternity so I can give you an artifact that will inevitably be stolen or lost or taken from your corpse in the near future.

>>713072601
nine divines literally cure ur sickness wen u pray 2 em & giv u skill buffs + dont ask 4 morally dubious actions 2 earn doz tings
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>713072503 (OP)
Sometimes you worship someone because you DON'T want them to fuck with you.

>>713072601
>the Nine Divines do fuck all.
They're literally the reason you can do ANYTHING. Without Akatosh there would be no time. Without Mara there would be no love etc etc.

>>713072601
The what Divines?

>>713072503 (OP)
I hate everyone who posts these comics but I love the little facial expressions on the characters. I wonder if this is how libs feel about stonetoss.

>>713072921
Not true at all. Playing as a "Good" character in Oblivion right now and most of the Daedra quests are benign (kill these necromancers/vampires/etc evil people) or just borderline cases like Sheogorath's silly prank.
There's only three quests that I considered outright evil so I didn't do them.
>Mephala, involving killing NPCs from two families and framing each other
>Namira, where you summon spirits to kill priests
>Molag Bal, where you corrupt some guy by baiting him into killing you
Even Clavicus Vile's quest isn't bad, you're just stopping someone obsessed with the sword who has killed countless people. Although I chose not to finish that one so I could keep weightless Umbra.

>>713073375
he drew a kuromi that i busted to

"I'm Else God-Hater. Yes. I hate the gods. All gods. They can all bite my garters. And if you don't like it, YOU can bite my garters, too."

>Skingrad
"Ask me what I think about chapels, praying, the Nine Divines. Go ahead. Ask me."

>What do you think...?
"The gods don't do a damn thing. Do they even exist? How could anyone tell? Daedra Lords, sure. They exist. They do things. Bad things, mostly, but things you can see. The gods? They don't do a damn thing. So why do we build big chapels and sit around and mumble, and ask them to save us from this and that? It's stupid. And chapels and priests and folks groveling on their knees, they're stupid, too."

The only daedra prince I respect is Hermaeus Mora

>>713073532
i hope he and the dragonborn are chilling rn

>>713073441
Tragic that Oblivion doesn't have a marriage system.

>>713073532
>Feed me knowledge that i will share with pretty much no one
Also an asshole

>>713072503 (OP)
Azura's realm is chill and she only curses people who deserve it

>>713072503 (OP)
I hope TES 6 has a collection of knightly orders to be a counter path for the daedric quests.
Hunting them down and eradicating them is an option that has been long overdue.

>>713073640
I mean this guy's an asshole, doc!

>>713073640
Except he shares his knowledge with people that have proven to him to value knowledge autisticly

>>713072503 (OP)
Because she looks like this

>>713073941
this artist is such a fag

>>713072503 (OP)
>Daedra prince of murder and secrets
>considered one of the "benevolent" daedra princes

>>713073993
What the heck dude...

>>713073941

>>713073998
>Doesn't murder me, and tells me other peoples secrets
Seems like a decent fellow

>>713073998
It's because she has black hands
>Boethiah and Azura are the principles of the universal plot, which is begetting, which is creation, and Mephala makes of it an art form.

>>713072554
where are other parts of his body?

>>713074570
His balls became the moons and one of his balls was bigger than the other

>>713074660
>one of his balls was bigger than the other
He's just like me fr

>>713072503 (OP)
they reward you in life more directly than the Aedra but they get to torment your soul in the afterlife.

>>713073998
>>considered one of the "benevolent" daedra princes
By the Dunmer, not the rest of the world.
>But why?
Because the Dunmer have always recognized the power of intrigue (assassinations and the like), and Mephala appreciates the worship of such plotters.

>>713072672
why didnt Akatosh turn into a woman and bare Septim child when the world needed one

>>713074914
He didn't need to

>>713074914
Trust the plan 2 More elder scrolls

>>713072503 (OP)
It's a different culture, Imperinwah's wouldn't understand

>>713073441
Irony of a Nord saying this when Kyne gave the Voice to her people.

>>713075196
In fairness she can't exactly pull up UESP and fact check things.

>>713073441
I wonder how retarded she felt when the world was saved by akatosh at the end of oblivion (fuck that ending btw for cucking the player out of being the protagonist)

>>713076092
UESP
Fact check

Pick one.

>>713072921
>>713072927
>thinks it’s the Nine actually responding when you receive a blessing
Lmao. The Tribunal constructed their own shrines. The shrines work because people believe in them. There are probably equivalent shrines all over Tamriel in non-Imperialized provinces with everyone thinking it’s their special interpretation of whatever god it’s supposed to be that’s blessing them. When a peasant offers his finest bread to Mara and begs for healing he is essentially casting a spell.
The thing with the Daedra is not that they are active, because Aedra worship does work, it’s that they are personal. When a Daedra favors you it’s because a thing that is actually alive has its eyes on you, not some cosmic force given a name.

I worship sithis because of my argonian wife

>>713076362
It was probably Sheo providing the boons for the false tribunal.
He likes to fuck with people.

>>713072503 (OP)
>Literally why would you ever worship a daedra?
Because wintersun mod makes them into a proper dieties to be worshipped with good buffs for followers of specific dieties.

>>713076092
I was going to say something but no actually a radical atheist doomsday cult member who doesn't actually have any knowledge of the religions she hates is actually 100% on point, bravo Emil.

>>713072503 (OP)
thought this was about lolth and not mephala at first

>>713076362
pretty sure that's just the heart's power, even if massively toned down

i don't think people understand the power of the heart, it literally erased an entire race because "lol, lmao even", Chud Ur became incredibly powerful from it despite not even being able to manipulate it; and it was at the center of a time manipulation WMD

>but muh power diminishing
still, would have been enough, vivec had full acess ONCE and he understood the meaning of the game

>>713076823
If Vivec understood so much why is he now powering my Pants of Stamina Regen?

>>713076946
Lmao
For the same reason he never wants to fight you
The biggest question is: why he didn't remove / get mined out the rock that is the minister of truth ? no i forgot the name and no i'm not going to check

the morality is that at the end the bad daedras won

>>713076170
Pretty sure she's a Mythic Dawn sleeper so in canon she was probably already dead by then

>>713077454
baar dau, and I thought he had put it there intentionally so that morrowind would literally live and die by his power?

>>713076823
Whatever it is it worked in essentially the same way that the Imperial Cult shrines did. They even had equivalent spells like Intervention. The Imperials even said that the Dunmer religion is an imperfect interpretation of their divines, like how Hindus sometimes say that gods of other religions are still valid. If someone in Hammerfell prays to Tall Papa in the same way they probably receive the same blessings. The Aedra are overrated because we mostly see games where the Imperials have shoved their interpretation of them down everyone's throat.

Seen any elves?

>>713077808
i mean, yes, i remember reading it was as a massive "get fucked, see what h appends if you cross me, you only live thanks to me", but he only ended up dooming his people, something he knew would happend when the Nerevarine would come and destroy the heart. Maybe he was coping and that the heart woudn't get destroyed and therefore he and the stone ( or was it shit ? I remember reading somewhere it was litteral shit, maybe a metaphor or something) would remain in place. So by not ordering it being destroyed, he doomed his own people for a second time. Truely a retard of the first order

>>713074914
Old man was probably infertile
no time to gestate, they needed a hero fast (I never actually finished the main quest but I assume there is an implied urgency even if I fucked around doing lots of side quests)

>>713072503 (OP)
The correct answer in TES is to not worship anything. But if you must, choose the Aedra. They are the least powerful and less likely to fuck you over.

Any time mortals meet the divine guys in TES, it ends bad for the mortals. If you can live your life without getting their attention, you won.

>>713076812
same

>>713072672
Yeah, but what has Akatosh done for me lately? Huh?

>>713074914
He did if you played a female Hero. You just failed by not hitting Martin.

>>713072503 (OP)
because she's hawt

>>713078098
>mfw nords get away with literal genocide references WHILE in the land of the people they targeted

>>713078054
I disagree. Even if they effectively powerless compared to deadras who roam freely, i think it's still fair for men and mer at least to venerate them, as not only their ancestors, but as the creators of everything. Even if they don't understand their true form. It's akin to praying to a god of fire ( aedra ) against an intergalactic evil being ( daedra ) in our world

>>713072503 (OP)
if one wants to RP as an historian/archeologist and learn the entirety of the elder scroll history which games should one play? any particular recommended order?

>>713078575
> Powerless
Bonks you with Stendarr's Hammer as I shine my lucky coin.
They need to have an Aedric questline in opposition to the daedric quest line in TES 6.

>>713072601
>catch vampirism
>beeline to church
>be cured before it transforms me

>>713073379
>choose not to do certain quests, even if that means missing rewards, because you're roleplaying
kinda based
>deliberately don't finish quests to optimize rewards like weightless Umbra
Seems contradictory to me

>>713078754
The latest one. It should have all relevant texts. That or a wiki.

>>713078575
>literal genocide references
what are you on about
it's literally a joke about being in the land of elves and asking a stupid question about elves

>>713078930
ok that's a bit boring. was hoping find to some unique books in earlier titles and make it really feel like you're on a research expedition

>>713079041
i always interpreted as that. Do as you wish, but it makes sense for Nords to be boastful about that sort of thing, not make a crappy joke

>>713078909
It's ok, Clavicus Vile is voiced by Todd Howard, he understands

>>713078273
the only exception is lorkhan

>>713079401
Lorkhan is the only god who really cares. I'm not sure why that is

>>713079714
Well, the entire world is basically his pet project. All the other divines would rather be floating in the gnostic divine soup or whatever, and are angry lorkhan tricked them into helping with his "constructing reality" hobby, and don't really care about anything in it except in ways that they can pass the time waiting for the world to end, and exert their power to feel in control.
Meanwhile lorkah actually cares because he's the one who built it, he's invested in his project.

>>713072554
Lorkhan might not be real and just be another persona deadric princes take on.

>>713079931
True. But I always wondered what it was about his creation that zapped the gods powers away. It has to be something, because even the Daedra want in on it because they keep trying and failing to take over mundus

>>713073070
That's like saying without sunna you wouldn't have the sun raise every morning and so none of the plants would grow so you should show some worship to her.

>>713079991
There's more evidence he exists than any other god in TES. Other than maybe Akatosh but he's pretty closely connected to Lorkhan anyway.

>>713072503 (OP)
I've been here for years but I still don't know who made the original comic or the name this format goes by. I really love the expressions these !jaks make, very neat

>>713072503 (OP)
Azura in particular seems pretty chill for a daedra, desu. Even most of the others aren't all bad all the time.

>>713079121
There really hasn't been any rhyme or reason behind the placement of 95% of the books.
Some are parts of quests so they are placed accordingly.
If you are going to play as a scholar just find a Library or a book seller.
I think the librarian in Skyrim has radiant quests to find rare books so that might fit your plan.
Other than that it is random.

>>713072672
>saves the world from a crisis they created in the first place
Very cool

>>713072601
>>713072921
Childhood is worshiping the deadra, because they have secret clubs, and giving you a sliver of attention and pittance powers when having a good day.
Adulthood is realizing that the Aedra are really there for us, and keep society and reality together without being destructive shitheads.

Praise Stendarr

I WILL rape Herma-Mora
>gay little nerd thinks he can smugly tell me what to do
rape

>>713081065
When Talos becomes the leader of a monotheistic religion the scouring of the daedra will be glorious.

>>713073993
Nah he is based as FUARK and Azura is my waifu.

>>713074889
pretty sure it was because the chimer were trying to do a secession with the altmer, they didn't want to and it got violent, and he/she/it liked it, so he/she/it decided to help them

>>713072503 (OP)
They gave immediate real power. In term of min-maxing this is a wet dream.

>>713073941
https://files.catbox.moe/0p9m7u.mp4