Thread 713103463

>Decide to check out Mario Kart stream
>Run into some Japanese guy, one of the top players in the world
>Literally every race starts with like 13 people in the back crowding around the first item box set hoping to get a good roll that they'll hold onto until Lap 3 to burst towards the finish line
>Everybody is using the same characters and the same kart
>Everybody picks Random because that's the only way to get a regular 3 lap race
>skip through the VOD this is every. Single. Match
What a great video game Nintendo, really knocked it out the park with this one. The racing game where if you try to race well you're a complete fucking retard

Nintendo won. Switch sold millions. You lost.
lol

>>713103463 (OP)
>game is worse at top level metaslaving compared to the casual intended way of playing
say it ain't so!

>>713103463 (OP)
You should feel embarrassed for making this thread

>>713103463 (OP)
So the same shit as 8D buy instead of Yoshi its toads?

>>713103954
when you design your party game in a way that a winning strategy is obvious to every 5 year old within a couple weeks, you've done a shit job designing your game
when the best kart is blatantly obvious on the fucking stats screen, you've done a shit job balancing your game
and when people try to actively avoid your game's main gimmick, you've done a shit job gimmicking up your game
"it's a party game" is a shitty retort, party games are just as much games as any other and need just as much if not more care put into their design to succeed
but the only succ mario kart world is doing is suck

>>713103463 (OP)
Link the stream, OP

>>713103463 (OP)
nintendo is too successful, you have to wait for another wii u disaster for them to make better games. nintendo wanted to make a baby game for babies which is why everything's complete bullshit and your racing doesn't matter.

Seems like a problem with the players rather than the game. That has always been the problem with games like this.

>>713104302
>8D
>Yoshi
It was all Waluigi and Roy

Bagging is even stronger than 8, especially when the more "open" track design lets you skip half the track with golden mushrooms.

>>713103463 (OP)
>watching gay streamers
Faggot

>>713104495
Exactly, let's see the proof

>>713104492
>casual game for babies is a casual game for babies
Yes you should have figured this out long ago.

I haven't even broken 8k VR and I'm already seeing people do this shit constantly.
They need an "expert" mode that's 12 players on full 3 lap courses only.

>>713103463 (OP)
Mario Kart World's "hype" died so fucking fast lol

>>713104651
no such thing as "problem with players"
it is dev's job to provide guidance and minimise frustration to the player
for example, if players keep picking "random" to avoid intermission plus one lap races, there is a lapse in your game design- either you didn't make intermissions enjoyable enough, you didn't make the reward for intermission worth it, or you didn't force their hand enough
thus, a more fun intermission, a full race after intermission, or/and no option for a non-intermission race, pick any number of the solutions, would've fixed the "player" issue

The one time I ever got sponsored to stream something was the PC port of Resident Evil Revelations that had just came out and it was a nerve wrecking experience and ensured I would never stream again. Everybody is just berating you for not employing hardcore meta strats in what seems to me like a pretty casual third person shooter or god forbid not doubling back around the level for an optional upgrade.

I wouldn't have made it in today's landscape streaming was still pretty small then.

>>713103954
It's more like Nintendo simply abdicates any responsibility for competitive play. Their design philosophy across multiple games is basically
>oh, sweaty gaijin want to sweat?
>well, let's remove these sweaty mechanics...
>perfect
>now it's fair for everyone! our work here is done! :D
Meanwhile all they've achieved is leaving sweats with fewer options to outplay other players; and in the case of Smash 4, Smash Ultimate, and every Mario Kart game, a degenerate, imbalanced meta that's the product of neglect. You cannot stop sweats from sweating.

Splatoon is probably the exception to this because it's designed to be competitive, but I don't play it.

>>713104935
again, a casual game for babies should have even tighter game design than an average game
mk has always been predicated on dragging sweatlords down and propping babies up, and a big part of that is designing it in a way that it's hard to cheese on one end and hard to accidentally fail on the other
for example, baby blooper is the best kart in the game by far, so sweatlords will keep picking it, and then kids will see bloopers everywhere, think that maybe it's good and start picking it too
and on the other end, some little girl is a fan of rosalina, so she picks it and her snowmobile thing and ends up with one of the worst combos in the game with shit handling, meh speed, shit acceleration, and only good bonus being fast on water that is barely present on any tracks
both are examples of mkw failing at baisic game balance and design

>>713104651
meta slaving is todays gaming culture. Watching videos, reviewing builds, theory crafting. No one just wants to "play for fun" as literally EVERY single nintendo game is designed. The FOMO is so strong they are slaves to it

>>713105083
Everyone is only playing Knockout Tour and that shit is cancer or most shit looks like this KEK

>>713105083
its another game with a lot of missed potential. i really hope they bring some major updates to the game

I wonder if Lakitu + Billdozer is any good? The stats are all even.

>>713103463 (OP)
Its incredible how tone deaf Nintendo is
>one major complaint in mario kart 8dicks from even the most normiest of normies is "You gotta do something about sandbagging"
>somehow Nintendo makes sandbagging worse and you can now get insane drops all the way from 24-12, meaning you can blitzkrieg last place to first in the final hour CONSISTENTLY

Boost items expiring on a set timer would literally fix this gay retarded bullshit.

You get a boost item it expires in ten seconds so you have to use it now.

>>713105826
Let me get this straight... you can't pick individual tracks?

>>713104694
Waluigi was meta at launch
later it was Yoshi with Teddy Buggy during the DLC patches.

>>713106107
These are your track selection options when playing online
>Two laps of an intersection, one lap of the actual track
>Two laps of an intersection, one lap of the actual track
>Two laps of an intersection, one lap of the actual track
>Random track, no intersection, three laps of the actual track
There's a reason why 90% of people just pick random online now

>>713106197
Classic Nintendo

>>713103463 (OP)
guess only bagging levels got picked. front running is viable but still prone to bad luck on occassion

>>713106107
When playing with randoms, the game will give you an option of three tracks or random. The three tracks are weighted to be nearby tracks, and if so, they're the "intermission" version (where you drive from where you currently are to the track you picked, and only do one lap of the track you picked). It CAN pick non-nearby tracks, in which case you do a normal 3 lap race, but as I said, it's weighted to prefer nearby ones. If you pick random and it picks anything not nearby, you do a three lap race there.

In player-created lobbies, it does all of the above, but you can also bring up an alternate menu that lets you pick any track you want.

lol

>>713105826
I hope Nintendo is tracking this shit and sees that nobody wants to play their gay intermission tracks

>>713106726
>but you can also bring up an alternate menu that lets you pick any track you want.
last time that happened in regular lobbies, we got nothing but baby park
the problem is not that you can't choose, the problem is that intermissions suck, and racing just one lap of the regular track sucks even more
if we got shorter intermissions and longer races, nobody would complain and nobody would pick random every time

>>713106726
Do you think /v/ could coordinate an all cow lobby with blooper car?
It would be funny

>>713106852
jokes on you, they will remove random instead

>>713103463 (OP)
>Game is garbage because of metafags bagging and avoiding certain tracks
Wow, it's exactly like 8DX

>>713103908
I didn't lose. All gamers lost, including you. It doesn't matter how much "fun" you have with the switch 2, you've lost. You stabbed the poisoned nail directly into the heart of the tendie worlds you love so much. Enjoy the enshittification of your nintendo games, anon.

>>713107029
cow sucks
baby daisy is the best character, best handling with road speed bonus on top

>>713105748
Anon, tendies aren't going to ever have a logical conversation with you. It's not possible.

>>713107241
I thought all characters in that weight class had the same speed.

>>713107315
World is like Mario Kart Wii where everyone has individual hidden stats
Remember how in Mario Kart Wii literally everyone played Funky Kong because he had the best stats? Mario Kart World is that again

>>713107315
actually yes, you're right, it's baby mario and goomba who have road bonus, baby girls have acceleration bonus (worthless)

>>713105826
Jesus Christ.......

>>713106197
Wtf were they fucking thinking

>>713106852
They really don't want to admit open world isn't suited for Mario Kart and they spent all those years and waiting for switch 2 hardware for nothing.

>>713107502
I'm aware of that, the thing is the featherweights are all the same from what we know. Parabiddy, Baby Peach and Daisy with Swooper are the only ones in that category.

>>713106812
How is this possibly faster when by the time you get a "good combination" the regular people are already a full lap ahead

>>713103463 (OP)
>>Everybody picks Random because that's the only way to get a regular 3 lap race
ooooh, so that's how it works

>>713105826
>>713106197
LMFAOOOO

>>713106197
>>713105826
As retarded as this system is,

A random track every single match is actually pretty kino and prevents people from just picking the same 3 maps over and over again online. It inadvertently creates a better experience.

Completely by accident

>>713103463 (OP)
I never have this problem because I only play locally with friends.

Every video I've stumbled upon has been faggots riding rails and barely even touching the track or they lose. And then a video of a guy doing damage control and saying how rails are hard and actually they are awesome, totally not retarded at all

>>713105826
$80 well spent I'm sure

>>713105308
>competitive play
It's a party racing game...

>>713106812
why so many toadettes? is my wife meta? I don't own a switch 2

>>713103908
never beating the ps2 sale record btw.

>>713109860
Where you try to win races

>>713110082
man most the track designs really are bland. should have seen this coming since the new mk8 deluxe dlc tracks were kind of ass

>>713110082
The webm that killed my interest in this mode

>>713103463 (OP)
Yeah they really fucked up with this one. I don't see world having a long shelf-life unless if Nintendo implements massive free gameplay updates that fix its fundamental issues.

>>713110780
>I don't see world having a long shelf-life
C'mon.

Maybe among MK /v/eekends, but you're insane if this game won't continue to be a killer app for the next decade.

>>713110082
Yeah but that's only when you bag a little bit. Not literally hanging out STOPPED at the first item box. The people actually playing are going to be a whole lap ahead of you.

In your webm, he was only a little behind everyone else

>>713111318
3-5 years, maybe. 10 like MK8 though? Fuck no.
Either way, they really do need to fix a lot of shit in free updates or a sizeable portion of kart-game fans will eventually forget about it or try other kart games.

>>713103463 (OP)
I watched some western tryhard who always got really mad when other players didn't use their items like he expected them to. When he got rolled by a megashroom in the third lap he went on to rant about how the player brings shame to his clan for being a toxic troll. Shit's funny

>>713110082
AMAZING GAME DESIGN NINTENDO!
WAHOOO!!!!

>>713111403
I don't have a webm for MK World depicting EXACTLY that but here's footage of it with MK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjRRXnvsi_Y
I can guarantee you that it's even worse now with how strong power items are in World

>>713111403
>The people actually playing are going to be a whole lap ahead of you.
They won't because there's 20 people clusterfucking each other with items constantly. One bill or gold shroom and you're always back

people who follow metas are... stupid?

>>713112205
Most are because they don't even understand why something is meta. They just hear Youtuberman say it is, so they pick it.

>>713109159
hooray for fuckups!

>>713103463 (OP)
>meta fags ruin a game
>it's the game's fault
this ALWAYS happens you fucking retard. Maybe play for fun and not to appeal to some faggot turbo autist elitists that want to minmax every single fucking thing they ever touch.

>>713104492
>when you design your party game in a way that a winning strategy is obvious to every 5 year old within a couple weeks, you've done a shit job designing your game
There is hardly a single video game that doesn't suffer from this. The more casual, the quicker it's broken by meta fags. This is a casual kart racer. No one takes you serious you fucking sperg.

>>713105826
Every Knockout Tour for me ends one of two ways.

>Knocked out first segment
>Last place in last segment

>>713105826
nintendo being incompetent when it comes to online has gone on for way too long. other companies knew how things should work for like 15+ years now, they can't even be bothered to make a sensible design for online lobbies for the flagship title of their new console.

>>713110082
this is why knockout is better

>>713114874
they really need to update knockout to have more courses. especially one that ends in a full 4-player rainbow road

>>713103463 (OP)
What a disaster

>>713103463 (OP)
>Can't have regular cups in single player mode
>Online mode has the most insufferable tryhards in the history of Mario Kart
The open world meme is destroying every franchise I love.

Not gonna lie I'm thinking of selling the game which thankfully I can do since I got physical

>>713111918
People subject themselves to this shit?
>race starts
>the winning move is to idle in 12th place to fish for items
...

I really hate "competitive" mario kart

>>713105826
DELETE THIS

>>713103463 (OP)
WiiU Kart 8 was better than this shite

>>713103463 (OP)
The issue is nobody is ever going to stop buying and playing it. They don't really care if the gameplay is good, just that it has fucked up chaotic moments you can share with your friends. It's unfortunate but it's what it is.

>>713105308
>Meanwhile all they've achieved is leaving sweats with fewer options to outplay other players; and in the case of Smash 4, Smash Ultimate, and every Mario Kart game, a degenerate, imbalanced meta that's the product of neglect.
stop sweating you fucking retard

>>713105274
backseaters are a blight

>>713103463 (OP)
> Literally every race starts with like 13 people in the back crowding around the first item box set hoping to get a good roll
What does this mean?

>>713120372
NTA but it's a legitimate problem with the game that could be solved pretty easily if the devs cared to.
I don't play that way, but it does feel bad when I go online and playing the fun way gets pooped on by playing in a retarded way.

>>713120372
>objective of the game is to win races
>stop trying to win races
t. nintendo

>>713113756
no, the worse designed the quicker it gets broken. you can have a well-designed and well-balanced casual game, as well as garbage exploitable tryhard ones.

>>713104745
>, especially when the more "open" track design lets you skip half the track with golden mushrooms.
Isn't that a good thing? Everyone complained that
>MK8 was too strict with Lakitu and didn't let you do fun skips
>Golden Mushroom was useless
Sounds like MK9 fixed those.

>>713103463 (OP)
>get into a lobby with 8-9k people
>all on the same grey car
so this is the meta pick? why exactly?

>>713121767
good handling and acceleration stats, and it secretly has a good speed stat when on roads, which is the most common track type

>>713103463 (OP)
post a link then, faggot

>>713122073
>has a good speed stat when on roads
why would you make a hidden stat like this when it applies to most of the tracks? I've been picking whatever looked nice or the Pipe Frame.

>>713111472
No they will not. God you people are so fucking retarded. Kart racer fans stick to Mario kart because it's the most popular with the biggest player base. That will continue to happen because the average person doesn't give a shit that people at 10k+ rank bag constantly. No one switches to dead games to play
And MK8 only lasted 10 years because nothing else released in that time frame. Which will continue to happen hear
I swear some of you faggots are so stupid

>>713103463 (OP)
>compfags are autistic subhumans
Yes and?

>>713111918
Cheese Land is the way it is due to an incredibly broken Bullet Bill extension, at the very least it can be said that the Bullet Bill got a big nerf in World. (Which sucks, rather they just took the extensions out).

>>713121686
Gold Mushroom should be useless.

>>713105826
They're doing it because random forces three laps instead of one.

Which is stupid on Nintendo's part.

>>713103463 (OP)
>Sweats ruin everything
It's a day that ends in Y

>>713125285
Common Mario Kart DS W.
>You thought I was going to mention MOTORCYCLES META version? Yeah right.

>>713110082
This is me every race in online. Toadette in Baby Blooper for great acceleration and handling

>>713122314
who knows, they're retarded, some karts have it even worse because despite what the in-game stats say, all their in-game speed points go to water speed, which doesn't matter most of the time.

>literally no one likes the gay straight lines
>not even japan, bootlicking capital of the world
lol

>>713103463 (OP)
>hoping to get a good roll that they'll hold onto until Lap 3
Really? A single lightning bolt from one of 24 players in one of 3 laps fucks this strategy.

>>713127185
Doesn't lightning only hit people ahead of you?

>>713103463 (OP)
>it's always the multiplayer fags complaining
either shut up and take it or fuck off to a different game

>>713110246
3DS and Switch both beat the record but Sony changed the numbers during the 3DS era and again during switch.

>>713103463 (OP)
So bagging is actually worse in this game? Fucking kek

I don't get the complaints about people sandbagging and spending half the race in 18th place just to get some "fuck you I win" button.

Not because it isn't true, it is, but because that shit is fucking BORING. How the fuck is anybody so fun-deprived that *this* is how they choose to spend their free time? Like, I'm playing Episode 1 Podracer now on a nostalgiabend. It's not an especially hard game, but holy shit at least it's FUN. I can't imagine doing this shit day in and day out just to get a 1st place dopamine rush that'll wear off in thirty seconds.

>>713107128
lmao playstation fag

>>713104935
You nintendies are always so predictable and detestable
>NINTENDO GAMES ARE PERFECT IN EVERY WAY! THE BEST THE MEDIUM HAS TO OFFER! $80 WELL SPENT WITH MY ADULT SALARY!
*anon critiques an aspect of the game*
>HMMM ACHULLY IT'S A TODDLER'S GAME YOU SHOULDN'T CRITICIZE IT EVER THE FAULTS DON'T MATTER BECAUSE IT'S AIMED TO TODDLERS! WHO CARES?

You guys don't even have faith in Nintendo. Always choosing the easy way out in the face of criticism.

>>713103463 (OP)
Maybe that’s just how JP plays. I only see rampant bagging on tracks like Moo Moo Meadows and Koopa Beach.

>>713111472
Mario kart 8 was the ONLY game for 10 years DUMBASS

>>713129002
You really think a tendie is the one who said that? Anyway bagging is only reliable on certain tracks (well, all of them if an intermission is picked, thanks nintendo)

>>713113574
FUCK META PLAYERS!!!! SOULLESS PIECES OF SHIT!!!

>>713122314
Pipe Frame also has better road performance than any of the karts in its weight class.

>>713128335
lol, Maybe nintendo has extra unit sold they can find data on?

>>713129002
>NINTENDO GAMES ARE PERFECT IN EVERY WAY! THE BEST THE MEDIUM HAS TO OFFER! $80 WELL SPENT WITH MY ADULT SALARY!


Funny since yes, Nintendo games ARE perfect. WHAT YOU THINK I WANT TO PLAY SOME LIVE SERVICE SHIT???? YOU THINK ITS FUN TO PAY THE FUCKING BATTLEPASS JUST FOR MY CHARACTER TO LOOK BLUE?????

FUCK YOU!!!!

I FINALLY GOT A 2020s MULTIPLAYER GAME THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT BULLSHIT AND YOU PEOPLE THINK IT SUCKS????

FUUUUCKKKK YOOOOOU!!!!! GO PLAY YOUR FAGGOT MTX, GAMLING SIMS WHILE I PLAY MY COMPLETE,SINGLE PURCHASE FUCKING GAME FOR ONCE!!!!!!

>>713129942
Is Caps Lock back in style now? You still have to pay for online to play Mario Kart.

>>713130234
yeah if im an online fag but guess what? There's local multiplayer so I don't really have to get the fag online service to play anyway. Also, despite being a multiplayer game it actually has a decent singeplayer side which is something I can't say for most multiplayer shit today.

You know? how most games used to be? before fucking Destiny came out?

>>713105826
>>713106197
Genuinely kind of interested to see if they'll actually fix this because it's becoming a pretty noticeable problem but it'd also essentially require Nintendo to admit that their idea of "WHOOPS! ALL HIGHWAYS!" was a fuckup

>>713106197
The japanese don't know how to develop games. The reason shit like this happens isn't because nobody is brave enough to speak up and say that this is bad design, it literally does not occur to any of them that this could be bad design. Bug people.

>>713131145
and the small times it happens, they get fired. see fukushima and kojima

>>713110082
This is what you guys believe is better than Crossworlds? lol

Why do boomers hate intermissions?

>>713116025
As soon as the "grind on anything drive on anything" mechanic was revealed my heart sank. I instantly knew this game was going to be ruined by metafags and sweats. DNI with online multiplayer

>>713110082
>Yoshi/Biddybuggy is STILL the meta
BRAVO
Is the Teddy Buggy still in this?

MKW hurts my hands. I'm waiting on a grip to play it again. Other games don't bother me.

>>713129040
Bagging is not optimal in every track.

>>713132293
Did you find a grip?

>>713110724
It's Koopa Beach anon, there has never been anything to it at all since its first creation.

>>713131584
biddybud/biddybuggy is better

>>713103463 (OP)
Is it worse than the Yoshi spam though?

Nobody cares about the open world and the inbetween/intermission tracks are fucking ass. Why introduce wall riding and grinding then proceed to have players not race on actual tracks?

>>713105748
>>713107302
>samefagging

Imagine playing Mario Kart and not just using your favorite character.
I'd rather die than not do that.

>bring back pickable 3 lap races
>knockout tour has random start and end locations, 6 laps same as before
>slight nerf to mushrooms/golden
Would the game be fixed?

>>713138004
>no
>yes
>no
The game is fine. Adapt already.

>>713103463 (OP)
Bruh, why are people treating a children's kart game like some e-sports mainstay? Why are nintendies such losers?

>>713110724
koopa troopa beach is literally the most boring mario kart track.

Items are definitely broken in this game. MK was always a party game but I remember when you still had to drive well to get first place. Now it doesn't matter. In fact you get punished for driving well.

>>713138249
>waaaaah I can't take a quick lead and be immovable anymore, the skill is gone
Bitch fucking please. 8D was notorious for someone taking a quick first and then never losing it the entire match.

>>713131362
shut the fuck up little bro. Crossworlds is gonna be shit

>>713138004
dude the game is already fine anyway FUUCKK.

Gamers are SUCH FAGS today. WHY CAN'T WE JUST BE OK WITH WHAT THE GAME HAS???

I HATE THIS LIVE SERVICE BRAINROT

>>713128335
Cope, ninceldrone

>>713131362
https://steamcharts.com/app/34190
https://steamcharts.com/app/785260
Wow , those 971 peak players of sonic racing sure are going to show mario kart that its better
Shut the fuck up sonic autist you lost in the 90s and still losing

>>713138249
>never heard of ketchup

Newfags are all underage.

Old mario kart was designed so bad you were better off staying in 2nd place until the last part of the race to avoid the automatic “difficulty” from the computer. Such trash, always been fucking garbage. Everyone that bought this is stupid. Mentally deficient.

>>713138935
looking forward to your cope when Crossworlds breaks 200k peak on Steam

>>713138994
2nd place sure. But now it's better to be 12th+. Kinda crazy

>>713138637
Sonic Racing Crossworlds is on track to win Best Racing Game of the Year at the Game Awards, Mario Kart World fumbled the bag and has no chance.

>>713128583
If the game was paced well, this strategy wouldn't work in the first place. That's a fault of design than how people play by the rules that are placed.

>>713139475
>Best Racing Game of the Year at the Game Awards
>game awards

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHJAJAJAHAH

Dude you should be a comedian!

>>713139889
>UH... it doesn't matter anyway!!
Don't spoil me bro, I want to see your reaction when you lose firsthand

>>713103463 (OP)
Japs are very into Mario kart, if you saw them in 8 they'd always be using waluigi or wiggler or whoever the fuck was the top pick with the exact same wheels and parts

>>713139991
well damn that just further proves how shit the game awards are

>>713103463 (OP)
>Nintentoddlers shocked (again) that their baby console has baby games, despite constant warnings, they insisted that they were richfags paying for the deluxe gaming experience. Point and laugh at them.

>>713130441
>Yeah it doesn't have free online, but it has this wonderful single player mode!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

>>713140901
nigga I point and laugh at the faggots hyped for arc raiders

I feel Nintendo did not want this to sell well

>>713141398
Why the fuck you laughing nigger kike??? WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING OK WITH THIS LIVE SERVICE MULTIPLAYER ONLY BULLSHIT WE KEEP FUCKING GETTING???

YOU'RE FUCKING OK WITH THAT??????

GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!!! AND NEVER PLAY GAMES AGAIN!!! WE NEED LESS PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713140901
idk PlayStation thought it was a good idea to make and release concord.

OH YEAH like fucking Halo today is soooo mature.

this development was predicted by the farty ponies

>>713138761
Games will never be art.

Double item box was the biggest mistake ML8DX reintroduced to the series. Two bagging items stored is too unbalanced.

>>713103463 (OP)
>one of the top players in the world
kek

>>713135860
So called free thinkers

>>713142903
They should make it worse and have double dash item switching so you can use single shrooms, and protect the stronger items from a boo easy

>>713103463 (OP)
>Everybody picks Random because that's the only way to get a regular 3 lap race
wdym?

>>713107128
>enshittification
How to tell someone gets regular worried phonecalls from their mommy

>>713103463 (OP)
>>713105083
>>713107128
>>713129002
Still buying Mario Kart World
Still buying Mario Kart World

>>713143431
>Still buying Mario Kart World
You mean you haven't bought it? It's been out for 2 weeks. Basically dead game at this point.

So in the end, was it justified?

>>713131481
>As soon as the "grind on anything drive on anything" mechanic was revealed my heart sank. I instantly knew this game was going to be ruined by metafags and sweats
>meta isn't grinding and wallriding, it's just sandbagging for items... again
so what point were you trying to make anon?

>>713143852
Wait so you're not a shill and you're just crying? That's even better.

>>713143431
What's with the "anti-soul" fog?

>>713143997
Most people got the bundle and didn't actually pay the full 80 for World.

>>713138480
Haha yes, egregious rubberbanding is good thing.

>>713143997
well yeah? If I got a physical copy I could just sell it and get my money back.

>>713144119
Looks normal to me

>>713143852
zoomers when a game doesn't get updated every 2 seconds

>>713103463 (OP)
they made a racing game for 8 year olds

thanks for the $600

>>713144280
>rubberbanding
>online

>>713107128
enshittification because........ some flaws exist???? Did your parents drop you when you were a baby or are you just retarded? Is this what we're doing?? re-defining words now???

fucking kill yourself.

>>713144587
there is no rubberbanding onl-ACK

>>713135860
always feels so good to come in top 3 with whatever character I want in these high VR japanese meta slave lobbies

>>713144579
Damn if mario kart is for 8 year olds what does that make forza??

>>713105308
>people still playing Melee 20+ years later
>NO NO NO NO we must do everything possible to make the new smash games play nothing like melee!
I will never fucking understand this logic.

>>713144673
That's just ballance. Rubberbanding is when bots literally just go faster to catch up to first

>>713144806
Take a shower

>>713144806
idk, the desire to have each game have it's own identity and legacy?

>>713103463 (OP)
No, I won't pick random. Uhh, I know know, I just... won't pick it that's all.

>>713144883
>brawl is remembered for tripping and cutscenes
>smash 4 is remembered for bayonetta, ice climbers being cut, smash run being exclusive to 3DS, and being slow, floaty garbage
>ultimate is remembered for rosterfaggotry, input delay, and steve, sonic, and g&w ruining every single tournament bracket
I don't think this strategy is working

>>713109860
Where the objective is to get 1st place against other racers

>Can't play the game without some BS happening every 1 minute.
tendies will unironically defend this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgdRIqyXjI

>>713110439
>>713145137
The objective is to have fun, which sweats don't know how to do

>>713144806
>>NO NO NO NO we must do everything possible to make the new smash games play nothing like melee!
yeah, they did better

>>713145008
MELEE HAD FALCO AND FOX FAGGING YOU FUCKING FUCK

>>713145232
Take a shower

>>713145008
>and being slow, floaty garbage
that started with brawl.

>>713145327
melee has a diverse roster of competitively viable characters, a varied stage list that gives even weaker characters a chance to counter stronger characters, and is still a fun casual game
calm down

>>713110246
Hard to do so when sony keeps claiming every indian has bought and owned onr

>>713145381
brawl at least had some stuff to offset its slow base speed, although it was restricted to specific characters. brawl still feels better to me than 4. 4's knockback is just so ass.

>>713145409
Take a shower

>>713131362
Anon please. The crossworld beta was horrible. Its a worse mario kart 8 clone

>>713145510
breathe in the stink faggot

>>713103908
Switch proves how to be successful: Actually appeal to the white race

>>713103463 (OP)
wow jap players are try hard losers

>>713144806
>I will never fucking understand this logic.
Let me help you anon. It's gonna be a huge leap of logic, but I really want you to put your thinking cap on for this one. I'm gonna give you a hint and you tell me why they did what they did.
Ultimate sold more then every console Smash game combined.

>>713105308
>You cannot stop sweats from sweating
Exactly so your bitching is pointless

>>713145356
is that the scariest thing you can think of or something?
i do that, must be harrowing for you though

>>713144279
And those people are stupid for buying the game digitally, but that's not what I asked.

>>713145840
Don't care

>>713145748
You're acting way too fucking smug for someone who is too stupid to process the simple fact that the video game market is not what it was in 2001 and the Switch sold 151 million units to the GCN's 21 million. If you really want to play the stupid numbers game for stupid idiots, Ultimate sold 36.2m copies to the Switch's 151m units, while Melee sold 7.1. to the GCN's 21m, meaning significantly more of the install base bought it.

This is why I hate the modern /v/irgin obsessed with sales, reviews, and player retention metrics. You're all fucking morons who don't even know what to do with the meaningless data you obsess over. Kill yourself.

>>713146060
I don't care about sales either anon, I'm just responding to the statement
>I will never fucking understand this logic.
Do you really not understand?

>>713146158
i get it
saleposting / chartposting has just driven me insane

>>713146060
It's always wild to me how little the Gamecube sold. I was a Nintendo hardcore all through that generation. From SNES to Cube. It was "the PS2 era", in the world but the Gamecube Era for me.

It was Resident Evil Remake of all things that made me branch out.

"Oh its a remake? I wonder what the original is like, a PS1 is auper cheap!"

I'd like to think maybe Silent Hill 2make is causing some kid now to seek out the original and maybe older games in general.

Hope you liked this blog.

>>713146395
I will forgive consumers for not just buying the fucking GameCube and therefore dooming us to the Wii / WiiU era of gimmicks, wagglan, and casual shovelware

>>713146450
never forgive*

>>713146450
aw shit you fell for the "waggle is bad" meme

>>713103954
Top level of mk 8 wasn't half the match crowding around the first item set to try and bag except in the absolute best sandbagging tracks.

>>713144812
Rubberbanding mechanics is still rubberbanding

>>713105768
Because its not fun to eat shit in 18th place multiple races in a row because everyone else finds winning fun. Its a basic prisoner's gambit that's destined to be lost and if developers had fucking brains they wouldve learned the lesson back in 07 with the Call of duties becoming mp5/SCAR or mp40 spam.

>>713130612
They'll change the random option to be like the other options instead of three normal maps. They're not going to admit the fundamental guiding principle of the games design was a mistake.

>>713107241
>babies are best again
Fucking Nintendo

>>713144657
>Did your parents drop you when you were a baby or are you just retarded?
Both

>>713122314
Because they've learned literally nothing from Wii and 8. They've got some retarded idea in their head that this will force players to try more karts or some shit when all it does is make an instant metagame as soon as the stats are datamined

>>713105826
Yikes