Thread 713144974

What does /v/ think about The Evil Within?

>picks up bolt
>doesn't use bolt to insta-flash-fry all the babies
>takes damage
i really do like it though and the sequel, it's that really super punishing resource management combat stuff that gets me

>>713144974 (OP)
Played it for an hour then quit. Not because I disliked the game but I think something came up IRL and then I just forgot about it.

>>713146268
How would anyone know that flash bolts would kill the babies if flash bolts have been seemingly useless the entire game at this point?

>>713144974 (OP)
First one was awesome. Second one was a pile of garbage.

I liked it. Solid 7.5/10

>>713144974 (OP)
1st one had good atmosphere but absolutely shit gameplay
2nd one has slightly worse atmosphere but improved gameplay, up to the point where you unlock stabbing from a corner then the gameplay becomes shit again because there is zero reason to use any other tactic
so overall a whatever, don't really care if it stays dead

>>713144974 (OP)
Evil within has a first person mode?

>>713146852
I didn't know this either.

>>713147037
>after linking with a Bethesda.net account
lmao fuck this

>>713147093
Email and password. Now.

>>713144974 (OP)
I didn't like it. Was promised RE4 but with actual horror but the gameplay was nothing alike, the game controls weird, the resources you get given the amount of enemies you have to deal with is not enough, the hide and seek sections sucked, I remember dropping it halfway through because I was simultaneously bored and annoyed by the gameplay. And the story and writing were so uninteresting that I don't even remember the MCs name.

>>713147037
>>713147093
You actually don't have to link a Bethesda.net account, but the process to get it functional is a pain in the ass regardless unless you're fine with just playing on console on default FOV.

The TL;DR is you need both The Steam Version + The Game Pass Version, you have to download both and then cut + paste (not copy) the files from the Game Pass version to the steam folder after you've already launched the game pass version once, you also need to add a little notepad so steam doesn't detect the wrong files and tries to auto-repair them, the reason why you need to do this is because The Steam Version doesn't have any of the new features/ content/optimizations, but the Game Pass version doesn't have console commands which are required for fixing FOV, mouse sensitivity, and mouse smoothing.

Oh and if you ever restart the xbox app on your PC or your computer, you have to cut and paste the files back into the game pass folder, and then repair it, and then cut and paste it back into the steam version.

I am 100% serious by the way. Bethesda.net is not required at all.

I already owned the complete edition on steam and recently got a PC upgrade so I figured i'd spend the dollar for the game pass trial to try and beat the game within 14 days to get it over with, it's been fun.

>>713147351
>Was promised RE4 but with actual horror but the gameplay was nothing alike
I think it feels fine, it's not really scary though this is true
>the game controls weird
They fixed this
>the resources you get given the amount of enemies you have to deal with is not enough
I'm not sure if you're wrong or if they fixed this, but this isn't a problem at all
>the hide and seek sections sucked
I'm on chapter 9/15 and there was only 1 hide and seek section so far and it was literally in the beginning of the game, yes it did suck but once you get past that, pretty much the entire game from then stealth isn't even really necessary at all, and combat works very well for most scenarios
>I remember dropping it halfway through because I was simultaneously bored and annoyed by the gameplay
I get not liking the original version when it came out, but the gameplay and just feel of the game with all the updates/upgrades feel great to me, i'm planning on beating it, might even do NG+ and the DLC's aswell.

>>713147037
Did they fix Joseph's AI so he doesn't walk into tripwires?

>>713148429
Currently playing it and haven't run into that problem so i'm gonna assume yes.

>>713144974 (OP)
Better than the second, at least with what it was trying to do with the narrative and visuals of the nested dream world. There were something things I really did like in EW2 though like Stefano and the stuff with Anima I thought was interesting but I dunno it just felt less surreal.

>>713148353
Yeah. That clip brought it all back. My issue with that game was the shitty "burn enemies to keep them down" bullshit. That's what made the resource management stress stand out. Fucking resource management being the only thing 'horror' games can muster to add real pressure.

I want to be Kidman's boyfriend.

>>713148795
The matches were kino. Unfortunately the guy whose mind you enter in TEW2 doesn't have a fear of fire so you can't just burn everything.

>>713148795
Matches are abundant though, also enemies stay down when you shoot them in the head, the matches thing is just to save ammo or to try and multi-kill enemies with burning.

>>713148863
Fear of fire. Guess I forgot about that part but a flick of a lighter would have still been preferable to scavanging matches. Wasn't the max something weridly small like 15?

>>713149056
Max is 30, the number rarely goes below like 13 though, it's cheap to upgrade too.

>>713149107
Weird. It's been a long time but I remember looking at the inventory and thinking that this guy really just has his pockets.

>>713149056
>Fear of fire. Guess I forgot about that part
It's because he was caught in a burning barn or something. In the original game script, Sebastian started the fire but they changed it. Really wimpy move.

>>713149171
Yeah I think default matches starts at something ridiculous like 5, but that gets fixed pretty quickly.

>>713147432
I ain't doing allat

>>713150030
Understandable, but it is pretty fun

>>713146660
I remember the strategy for the big fire guys from the late game being "sneaky stab, sneaky stab, sneaky stab"

>The sequel isn't called "The Evil Without"
Aight, I'm out.

>>713146268
You can just run over them, unc.
>>713146424
>flash bolts have been seemingly useless the entire game at this point?
Could not be more wrong if you tried.

>>713151445
I'll stick with not using the niche combo item when every other item does the job better.

I don't know if any autist ever tried to call this an "immersive sim" but it definitely qualifies for that in some sections.

>>713151934
>Immersive Sim
It's a linear survival horror game similar to Silent Hill and Resident Evil dude

>>713144974 (OP)
pretty great at the start then starts to devolve into shooter slop at the end. also juli kidman is an extremely underrated vidya waifu

>>713152225
You don't understand Evil Within.

Bruh i'm literally playing it right now

>>713153084
Meant for >>713152981

>>713146424
>useless the entire game at this point?
You can stealth kill ten enemies in a room if you fully upgrade it.

>>713153668
Why would I need to do that? The enemies that can be stealth killed are fodder usually, I can't even see that being super useful on NG+ Higher Difficulties, but maybe i'm wrong.

>>713153887
>Higher Difficulties
True, especially useful during the beginning of chapter 6 when Joseph is disarming the bombs, and there's also a turret section that can be skipped if you use a flashbolt and climb over a car.

>>713154279
>True
I meant *This

>>713144974 (OP)
mikami kino of the highest order
filtered millions

>>713144974 (OP)
I have never played Evil Within cause it didn't look interesting. But lately I've been going through Shinji Mikami's catalogue and I'm curious to know what actually makes Evil Within's gameplay unique? Because from all the footage I've seen it just looks like a completely standard shooter game, but Shinji Mikami has always explored new gameplay systems in his games such as God Hand, PN03, Vanquish, RE4 and so on.

>>713155564
>what actually makes Evil Within's gameplay unique
That's the funny thing, it isn't
It's basically a 3rd person shooter with jank mechanics like burning bodies to keep them dead and shitty stealth
The "unique" thing is more of the atmosphere, the 1st game feels like a very long horror inception movie

>>713155564
>>713155780
Yeah it's not really a "unique" game, it was made during a time where there was a resident evil like game drought so to speak, and it was meant to quench the thirst of people into stuff like that.

I mean even nowadays all we have is Resident Evil and The Silent Hill Remakes.

I guess it's like playing Lords of The Fallen after you've already played all the From Software games a bunch, and are burnt out but want something similar but different.

>>713155780
>>713155891
that sounds quite un-Mikami-like

>>713155942
Well you have to understand the context of it
it was released in 2014 and even though it feels standard now, it felt like a breath of fresh fucking air because all the horror games were basically shooters like dead space 3 or RE6
He left to make his own shit, made a more traditional horror game and fucked off, so it's about right

>>713155942
I guess in terms of unique things the game has to offer the burning bodies thing is the most unique, it's not really to "keep them dead" like >>713155780 says, it's more of an offensive way to kill them early if you knocked them down to conserve ammo, or in some cases very very early in the game to check if a dead body is pretending to be alive and then burning them before they come alive, it can also be used to burn some bodies to get a secret item or something of that nature, other than that I guess you could say the setting is unique? Personally I don't find the setting very interesting, visually it doesn't look unique but technically because of the plot it is "unique" but yeah. I think with all the upgrades the game has gotten since release it is a game worth playing if you haven't played it before, only issue is on PC, as >>713147432 mentioned, if you want it running properly with all the features and running well, it's a pain to get running, and not many people would be willing to do all that for a good experience on a Resident Evil clone.

>>713144974 (OP)
I wish the entire game was more like the intro from 1. That was an actual well-designed, well-developed gameplay section where you had limited movement speed and other problems and had to deal with them.
The game immediately squanders this goodwill the moment you make it out of that initial room.

>>713156475
I always skip the first level on replays by using a save lmao.
Still Wakes The Deep might be a game you'll find interesting, it also got a DLC recently.

>>713155942
>>713156360
Another unique thing is that there's this back room area in the Safe Room area where you open up morgue body storage things in order to get an item, you find keys from breaking hidden statues in the world, usually it's just ammo and upgrade points but it's unique kinda. Although some people might just view it as a lootbox esque type mechanic.

>>713144974 (OP)
Still pissy Tango got killed before they were able to release the 10th anniversary edition.

>>713156824
10th anniversary edition?
>look it up
>it's real
fucking hell, I'm mad!

>>713156824
We have no idea what such a version would have entailed though, could and likely would have been a nothing burger.

Alright /v/ you con/v/inced me to play this slop. I'll head up to 1337 and find some good evil within torrent there

>>713144974 (OP)
It's honestly pretty bad.

>>713144974 (OP)
I think that theres evil within, too

The first game is a bad mix between Resident Evil 4, Silent Hill and some stealth segments.
The second game is more fun but extremly streamlined.

Both are mediocre.

>>713157514
Go to the pcgamingwiki page for the fixes. This game was and is still a bitch to get running properly.

>>713144974 (OP)
I thought it and the sequel were great.

>>713144974 (OP)
>installed 2nd game
>tutorial and forced walking for 2 hours
Nah

>>713157726
Got it. Just watched some videos on evil within looks like a fun

one of my favorite games, i replay it every now and then.
beaten akumu mode more than once, on ps4 and on pc.
love how the game looks, it's gorgeous. naoki katakai is a fucking master at art direction and I really wish he could work on another game just one time.

>>713144974 (OP)
Loved them. Should've been the RE of 8th gen and a century long IP but Microsoft fucked it.

I hated that the game is all "in le head". Why are the majority of horror games too cowardly to have actual supernatural elements anymore, its always hallucinations or at best some bioweapon or mutation

>>713158902
it's a crutch, easy excuse to just throw a bunch of shit in the kitchen sink

>>713157726
>fixes
DXVK alone fixes its stuttering performance on my machine apart for a few minor visual bugs.
Texture pop in during cutscenes and gameplay cannot be fixed 100% apart for maybe having 64GB of VRAM in the future. Blame John Carmack's megatextures.

>>713158553
Their inhouse lighting engine does a lot of heavy lifting. Very beautiful.

>>713158902
Yeah this is a horrible thing in any plot. I enjoy escapism, and nothing takes me out of something more than the plot reminding you it isn't real. This is why when I play this game I always try and ignore the story.

>>713148429
I don't remember him ever walking into tripwires in chapter 6. I don't remember traps outside of proximity bombs in that level at all.

>>713158902
and what's wrong with keeping the reasoning grounded in reality with STEM but allowing all the weird supernatural kojimbo shit in the head
who fucking cares if it's actual ghosts or not unless you are some autistic faggot

So judging by the posts in here, the gameplay is just servicable?, it'll get the job done but won't fully satisfy you? I always look towards gameplay first everything else is mostly secondary.

>>713159624
>the gameplay is just servicable
The gameplay's great if you make full use of the agony bow.

>>713159624
It scratches that specific RE4/Dead Space arsenal upgrading itch, and there are some interesting gameplay set pieces, it's alright for a playthrough. I'd put it on par with Re Village, with higher highs and lower lows. I'd say gameplay is the strong point, it's just very uneven from chapter to chapter.

>>713147351
>>713148353
Controls were never "fixed". Seb feeling as sluggish as RE4make Leon is the same in all versions both original, and gamepass + later versions.
Evil Within always gave you just enough resources. The problem was that you had to know where those fixed drops, because the game was made for replays.
>>713147037
All the "improvements" the gamepass and later versions did are a fucking joke.
3 second sprint was always a problem parroted by fucking morons. Sprinting is worthless no matter how long it took. Your sprint speed is barely any faster than the default. The levels are linear and microscopic, and you can easily outrun everything even with default movement even on nightmare and above. Its only practical usage is limited to maybe running up stairs a little faster during Ruvik's mansion, or boosting off ledges in the final gauntlet.
When you do an unupgraded run, which is trivial because of how unreliant the game is with stats in the first place, the only thing you'll miss is fire rate upgrades.
First person mode is a fucking joke. I immediately turned this shit off when the player's head clipped in during a door opening animation. Perspective or even the fucking letterbox was never the core issue of the game to begin with.
Both infinite ammo and first person were available via consolecommand anyway.

>>713160343
>First person mode is a fucking joke. I immediately turned this shit off when the player's head clipped in during a door opening animation.
I would rather play with a jank first person than without personally, i'm already on Chapter 13, played the whole game with it so far, tweaked the FOV, turned off mouth smoothing, and used sensitivity converters to make it something similar to the rest of the games I play, the game/controls doesn't necessarily feel jankier/less smooth than a lot of other games, it's about as smooth as like DayZ for example, is it as smooth as Call of Duty, Fortnite, or DOOM, or something like that? Of course not but it's not like OG Resident Evil 1 on PS1 tier by any means. I think even Dead Space 1 was more janky/tanky than this.

>>713144974 (OP)
I thought it was a good tribute to horror games. You see a good spread of styles from across different eras.

>>713146424
>flash bolt
>useless
lmao you have to be trolling or you've never actually played the game

>>713144974 (OP)
please play it in third person, first person looks soulless

>>713163950
I'm literally about to beat it right now, flashbolts were trash.
>>713164101
No, I even mod Resident Evil games to be first person, did the same with the new Hitman too, it just makes games better.

>>713146436
They both have their pros and cons.

never played either

>>713144974 (OP)
good game both the first and the sequel.
my complaint would be that there are too many on rails movie sections making subsequent playthrough a bit of a drag. but still great games.

still 30 fps on cucksoles

>>713144974 (OP)
I'm still annoyed that EW1 never ever actually explains it's story that the antag is just trying to body snatch his way out of the horror matrix, literally one sentence of two would of clarified a lot.

>>713144974 (OP)
worth playing if I liked first Dead Space (OG, sequels not so much) and RE4 (both OG and remake)? only have the steam version so I suppose without "fixes". generally prefer more action less horror

>>713165328
it does just super late into the game
>>713165218
60fps makes the game harder and breaks some stuff/has a chance to glitch important things out, also take more damage - at least in the steam version - the xbox/epic game store version has a newer patch that makes the game easier overall and changes some things from the original

First game was decent but the controls were a little clunky.

Second game was woke nonsense but they dramatically improved the gameplay.

>>713165949
>60fps makes the game harder and breaks some stuff/has a chance to glitch important things out, also take more damage - at least in the steam version - the xbox/epic game store version has a newer patch that makes the game easier overall and changes some things from the original

fine, but PS version has horrible input lag as well, so yeah play this game on pc

>>713144974 (OP)
It's ok, great even if you compare it to modern garbage.

>>713144974 (OP)
Garbage that got absolutely mogged by TLoU1

>>713144974 (OP)
Great game. Really underrated.

You should pirate the Epic version, since >>713165949

>>713166246
no if anything avoid the epic version as a first time player to get the intended experience

>>713144974 (OP)
most satisfying barrel / wooden box breaking of any game I've played

>>713157364
60fps on console and the JP dub available on an uncensored version of the game would have absolutely made it worth it to me. Although likely it would have just been a performance upgrade with a costume and a weapon or two thrown in.

>>713165041
kek

>>713144974 (OP)
It's in my top 5 games idgaf. Presentation and atmosphere is top notch. Gameplay is addictive if you like resource management.

>>713169797
Are you me?

>>713165949
>>713166246
>>713166993
>the game easier overall and changes some things
There is fuck all gameplay related they changed to make it easier.
The only functional changes are the longer sprint and a first person mode.
The game is the same shit from 2014, and the supposed performance improvement is fucking snakeoil if there ever was one.

>>713144974 (OP)
should i get it during the steam sale? does it work on the deck?