>liked cyberpunk even at launch, decide to play again now that phantom liberty is out, the modding scene exists enough to make panchiko work, and I have a 4090 instead of a 2060
>decide to scramble together a build in the build planner
>it's all different now, I don't really mind but then I read shit like pic related
What mongoose raping arab did those poles hire to come up with this dogshit?
So I aim my gun, and if I don't shoot 2.5 seconds later I lose half my stamina? This takes up a skill point? Can I have the 'shoots my own dick off accidentally sometimes' skill instead?
And the entire skill tree is built around this shit I can't even go to the next skill without unlocking it.
What the actual fuck happened here the skill system was fine.

Why are you aiming if you aren’t shooting
If you aren’t shooting why do you need the stamina
Are you this retarded all the time or is this a special occasion

>>713149558
Damn nigga some times I just like looking through a scope and mumbling some stuff to myself about how I am the angel of death, what of it. I don't want to see stamina bars flashing and FOCUS MODE ACTIVATED on my fucking screen ruining blade running.

>>713149623
turn off the UI

>>713149803
Hows that work with the hacker shit?

>>713149927
not my problem

>>713149361 (OP)
Yeah, Focus Mode is AIDS

>>713149941
Thank you oh wise cdpr game designer.

>>713149978
dont forget to buy witcher and cyberpunk on switch 2
no but seriously I never really used guns in cyberpunk
one time I played it I went max int and tech and just spammed hacks and sometimes used a smart gun

>>713150023
I only ran guns half the time but the level cap is 60 now and they erradicated half of the hacker tree so I gotta find places to dump all these points.
Problem is every skill seems like commando-tier-trash now, stamina regen is half of every perk, did this game even have stamina?

>>713150126
yeah it had stamina from the start
idk just dump et into cool and do some sneak shit

>>713149361 (OP)
>What the actual fuck happened here the skill system was fine.
Lmao. No it wasn't.

>>713150173
There's like 6 perk points worth of stealth, throwing weapons has something like 20.
Monofilament has like 2 now down from half the body tree.
>>713150217
Ok well then it was shit and is now unfuckingworkable, sound better?

>>713150258
>Ok well then it was shit and is now unfuckingworkable, sound better?
No, it doesn't. I've played with both systems and the new one is a lot better (but it's also not perfect). And this is pretty much the consensus. I'm not going to argue with you further because this is clearly an issue of taste, and you have none.

>Shooting is worse than Deus Ex sequels
>Driving is worse than Far Cry 4
>Skills are worse than both
>Characters are atrocious
>Story/Setting/Tone is AIDS incarnate
>Bugs out the fucking ass
>Enemy AI is retarded
>Roleplaying is nonexistent
Do people actually like this shit? It's just Borderlands in a somehow more annoying setting, with less enemy variety. The only thing I did like was Jackie getting smoked. God, what an annoying cunt.

>>713150370
Ok sorry you're right I can't wait for 80% of my screen to go vignette black and hear WOSH every time I ADS
The community is always right.

I can't believe I bought witcher 2 at launch and this is the kind of fucking stupidity it paid for.

Yeah I saw a video of vignette- I mean focus mode, I'm done, I'm gonna go play skyrim instead, thanks anons, they ruined the game as far as I'm concerned.

Cyberpunk's "skill trees" are fucking dogshit because of how hyperspecific and pigeonholed they are. I filled out the skills for shooting people with revolvers in the cool tree and then there was fucking nothing else to spend skill points on because they're all hyper specific shit that only applies if you use weapon X on a wednesday with a new moon or whatever so I just had to sit on 30+ skill useless unused points.

>>713150743
They're also completely linear now, just like here's skill 1, here's 3 subskills, and here's skill 2 with 3 subskills, and there's your ultimate, repeat for the entirety of all 6 trees. with 2-3 per tree for whatever gimicky weaponshit we came up with.
Throwing knives has more skills in it than any other weapon in the game, and it still looks worse than it did in 1.1.

>>713149623
Based true RP'er.

>>713149361 (OP)
since shooting costs stamina it ends up being the same except you only get the negatives of lower stamina after the mode ends

>>713151464
Nah what it actually does is makes a bunch of noise and fills your screen with bullshit, I've watched the video you can't lie to me.

>>713151502
Why wouldn't you want this? You're playing a videogame

Hey they removed scaling from the monowire
>check all other cyberware arms
Hey, they removed scaling from every single fucking cyberware arms, the titular feature of the game.
Mhrst

>>713151746
Because that is not a feature indicative of a video game, it is a feature indicative of a SHIT video game like call of duty.
I get that poles also made bulletstorm but I didn't think this rpg was trying to be intentionally dudebro retarded like that game.

>>713151804
>>713149361 (OP)
yea they reworked everything for no reason. you used to be able to find the monowire, gorrilla arms and the blades in the city and get them any level. they removed this im guess when they changed the system for the dlc?. idk i bought the dlc but i never played it since i went to the monowire spot and found shit

>>713151502
it's been like a year since i played but i don't remember it being that bad
i did play a sandy build tho which is very noisy
if you have 20 in cool you can hip fire with perfect acc, that's what i did in the end game

>>713151895
Apparently all the ripper docs sell them at level 10 now, also the ripper docs no longer have unique pools of items because this game is made for retards.

>>713151953
gay and lame. i liked exploring and finding that shit. its like playing skyrim or fallout and rushing the unique items for fun. then they patch it and remove the uniques and put them in special vendors instead

>>713151951
>i did play a sandy build tho which is very noisy
This is what I'm starting to realize across all the skill trees, between 1.0 and 2.0 edgerunners came out and cyberpunk went from a cyberpunk rpg to LOUD IN YOUR FACE EDGERUNNERS SHIT,
Uh fuck half this game is hacking how do we make this EDGEYRUNNER
YOU CAN MAKE BIGGER EXPLOOOSIONS AS A HACKER NOW

>>713149361 (OP)
I only vaguely remember cyberpunk perks but I'm pretty sure it was like 33% amazing shit you must get every time, 33% completely unnoticeable perks that might not even work since you literally can't tell, 33% "who even wants this?"

>>713150394
>Driving is worse than Far Cry 4
>Bugs out the fucking ass
>Enemy AI is retarded
This also describes the deus ex sequels

My first playthrough was cool with knives and the occasional katana. I tried to play the game again when the DLC came out and realized they completely changed the tree and I dropped it soon after.

>>713152143
>driving
UH, FUCK WE FORGOT TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT IN 1.0
HERES A SKILL WHERE YOU CAN POWER SLIDE OUT OF YOUR CAARRRR YEAAAAH
IT'S A STARTING SKILL OPTION AT ANY SKILL ASSIGNMENT YEAAAAAHHHH CHOOOOM

Is no cyberware run doable on hard difficulties? I did sandy + gorilla arms playthrough last year, now I kinda want to try new things.

>>713149361 (OP)
Yeah I tried to get into that focus fire thing and dont even know what it does. I just maxed out smg fun, switching 3 auto-reloading smart guns is devastating and fkn easy lol.

>>713149361 (OP)
eventually you dont even lose stamina when shooting silenced pistols and they're 100% accurate and they're also the best for headshots. maybe power revolvers do more but they're loud and dont get the aforementioned pistol bonuses and they only get 6 shots

or you just throw knives at peoples heads and instantly get the knife back to chain more headshots with which are all instant kills

the combat is fucking easy and Im playing on the hardest mode

>>713152273
Cyberware was really good on my 1.0 run, I have no fucking idea with 2.0 it looks like dogshit.
The only thing I couldn't do with cyberware on hard in the original was the araska optional ending, it was not good at frontal attacks but now it doesn't even look like stealth exists anymore so who the fuck knows you're probably just a monofiber whirlwind that sprays negative status effects at everyone now.

>>713149361 (OP)
>make most perks situational or shit you don't really need, like only 2 perks in each tree is actually meaningful, lock every perk to specific weapon types so no point in multi-classing or finding synergy
>move all the useful passive bonuses to some "headshot 100 enemies" shit

What was the point of this again? It just made levelling even more boring and pointless than it was before. I was constantly running around with loads of unused perk points because I had fuck all to spend them on.

>>713152108
OG had infinite explosions tho because you could just spam 200 grenades

>>713152351
i don't mind situational perks that much as long as they're strong, sadly most are weak
what i do hate is how the tech tree is pretty much mandatory

>>713151953
The ultra-speshul hover-legs being exclusive to the transgender ripperdoc pissed me off because the first time I played the game I blew his head off the moment I could. Before I knew this tarded tranny had a unique item that doesn't even match his character.

>>713152463
Been there brother, that's good game design right there.

>>713152463
someone should make a realms restored esque mod for cyberpunk to get rid of all the tranny shit and gay shit. the seethe would be funny

>>713152572
funnier than the seethe over it being in there in the first place? lol

>>713149361 (OP)
>MFW the game came out with a perk that made you invisible while you were swimming
>The game did not feature a single mission or area where you fought enemies while swimming
Also there was an explosion-resistance perk which did nothing because all non-grenade explosions did a 1 hit KO to the player regardless of HP.
Oh yeah and the perk which made you unable to be knocked over, turned vehicle collisions from minor damage to a 1 hit KO lmao.

>>713152589
there it is, already seething at the thought

This fucking faggot robot in Reed's path is annoying as FUCK

>>713152458
>what i do hate is how the tech tree is pretty much mandatory
Is it? I remember it being mainly boosting consumables and tech weapons. Although some of the low level cyberware stuff was pretty decent.

>>713152595
Anon there's a perk where you can power slide out of your car.
Tell me in detail all of the useful deployments of this skill in a mission.

>>713149361 (OP)
people complained at launch that most skills in the tree were just percentage increases. so it got engoodened.

>>713152696
>The game launched with a perk that let you throw knives at enemies
>No, you cannot pick up the knife after you have thrown it
>And it did minor damage as well lol
CDPR are hacks and Cyberpunk was coded by jeets.

>>713152750
Great so they removed all the arm weapon trees, and 80% of the stealth tree, and skill trees for each individual weapon class and replaced it with knife throwing against robots.
That makes perfect sense.

>>713152727
Yes and along that, even without perks, you still can become easily overpowered as you progress in the game because the game is very generous with gear you get. By the time you reach level 20-25, you reach peak of your build.
Half of talent tree is just additional filler anyway.

>>713152619
yeah the cyberware perks made a big difference for all playstyles and with all the op cyberware in the dlc the extra capacity from edge runner fell necessary

>>713152463
i wish RPGs let you steal from vendors
besides all the best gear should only be available by stealing from corps doesn't make sense that every joe schmo can sell you a sandy

>>713153019
>Cyberpunk is a real and gritty universe, with stealing being commonplace
>Can't actually steal from (((merchants))) ingame
Lol, lmao

>>713152996
>Half of talent tree is just additional filler anyway.
That sucks fucking dick anon, up from like 3 skills to "half the talent tree?"
Jesus fucking christ.

>>713153217
It's entirely your choice whether you want to do extra damage with explosives and dash like a madman or not. Nobody is forcing you to pick shit at gunpoint.

Tying playstyle skills to specific weapons is so dumb. Having playstyle perks and weapon buff perks separate would let people customise the way they want to play but instead there's zero customisation.

Just get 15 body and go through the middle path. Everything else is filler. Even on Very Hard it's like this.

>>713153278
I'm literally forced at gunpoint to pick a trash skill because without it I can't go pistols.

TAKE ME DOWN TO THE KURWAJANK CITY
WHERE THE BUGS ARE PLENTY
AND THE GUNPLAY'S SHITTY
OH WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME

>>713153343
Come home, anon. Go full unga and spec into Body/Reflexes. Melee only.

>>713149361 (OP)
That's the kind of skill that works in a turn-based game since it's technically a buff for an aimed shot (bonus acc for AP penalty next round). Not real time where you can just use ADS to point at someone's head and shoot. If I were to implement this better it would just be something around of slowing down time when ADS'ing while having no stamina depletion and gets disabled when you are hit for a few seconds.

>>713153343
Reject reflexes, embrace body/tech supremacy.
Come home, anon, toss grenades while punching everyone on sight. Pistols are for fags anyway.

>>713152185
>Driving
>deus ex sequels

>>713153669
game already has that it's down the tree, it's only 10% slow iirc which barely helps
hitting headshots also extends the mode either that or getting kills don't remember

>>713154067
I'm implying that its stackable with other skills as well.

>>713152185
Yeah bro I hated those driving sections in Deus Ex

>>713149558
>Why are you aiming if you aren’t shooting
Either a soulless NPC or has never played a shooter before.
Literally everyone uses ironsights to look at smaller things in closer detail in FPS games, and before that people would just crouch and jump on thigs just to look at and examine them.

>>713153803
>>713154732
So you admit that Far Cry 4 did it better? Then we're agreed.

>>713150394
Look how he didn't critize the fashion. The 150m usd 3 years time of patching produced some cool jackets.

>>713153716
game is literally unplayable without 20 reflex and double jump legs
>>713154926
retardGOD your eyes have built in zoom function you don't need to ADS

So what's the last good patch? 1.6.1?

>>713155012
>I was just pretending guise!

>>713149623
>Game about future and electronics and AR features and some near sci-fi shit
>Gets upset because it's not fallout 4.

>>713150126
My first run was like yours too, I loved completing missions without ever having to fire a single shot or look my enemy in the eye. I paid zero attention to guns, only when necessary cuz the game forces you or whatever.
That's gone?

>>713155692
newest one because of mods

>>713149361 (OP)
Are there any good mods for this shit game?
>inb4 mods to make a troon toon

Now that I can play the game at max settings and path tracing at 2k the game is like feeding my eyes a nonstop train of orgasms. Every second of gameplay looks screenshot worthy, or like what you'd see in a "cinematic game trailer".

Just makes me think of how immature unreal engine 5 games are still. Once developers really start getting a grasp on that those games are really going to be amazing, like how the latest unreal engine 4 games have been (and unreal engine 6 will be out by then).

>>713155635
NTA, but double jump isn't necessary. I completed the game before once with lynx paws and without legs enhancement. Double jump is not necessity, you can beat the game perfectly fine without it.

>>713156294
i really liked enemies of night city
there're also a lot of fun mods for cyberware don't remember the names
and there's one for stealth forgot the name but it made so hacking wasn't free and you had to infiltrate subnets to unlock hacking people in them it was pretty fun too

>>713150394
You a real dingus eh bud