How in gods name was I supposed to know that in order to get the code I needed, I'm supposed to click on a bunch of random paintings scattered across the GIGANTIC map until they showed me individual numbers from the code
has anyone actually beaten this game? why does no one talk about how insanely obtuse it is?

>>713157484 (OP)
I beat the game but I don't remember doing that. It was years ago though.

Beaten it many times. Sucks to suck, little zoom zoom

I unironically used a guide back in the day but I am a gigantic retard to be fair

>>713157552
because that's not a thing in SS2

>>713157484 (OP)
>shitting on goat game
do better
also one personal log refers to that specific code

>>713157734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAgfvFmfROk

>>713157734
Yes it is, it's on the recreation deck. You put the code in upstairs at the basketball court.

>>713157758
it says find the code in "art terminals"
very vague, makes it sound like an area

>>713157484 (OP)
cus u played thru ss1

Le skill issue :^)

>Frank's split up the transmitter code and uploaded it to a number of art display terminals throughout this deck. Just cycle through the art and you'll find a piece of the code.
what could it mean???

In SS1 I had to use a guide once in my play through because I missed a keycard thing in a laboratory, in retrospect there was lot of environmental shit around it that should have made me explore the area better

>How in gods name was I supposed to know that in order to get the code I needed, I'm supposed to click on a bunch of random paintings scattered across the GIGANTIC map until they showed me individual numbers from the code
they have brackets you colossal moron

>couldn't find the code for this door on medsci
>randomly punch in 00000 out of frustration
>it opens

>only 6 days left
fuck year

>>713160151
I mean, the only feature worth looking forward to is the improved multiplayer. I'm not that hyped

>>713157484 (OP)
>subhuman zoomer mistook ss1 with ss2
Grim

>>713160151
why not try the game now?

>>713157484 (OP)
embarrassing bro... at least play the games

>>713160484
What are you talking about? The paintings are in SS2.

>>713160640
I've finished SS2 multiple times. I just want to check out the new version.

??? That's what you do in SS1. Smash almost every screen on every level to get the reactor keycode

>>713157484 (OP)
iirc two of them are two digits, so you only have a few possible orders to check

Are you ready for the uh, remaster?

>>713157484 (OP)
One of the logs or something definitely tells you about the terminals.

>>713161857
yang's log literally around the corner from the start of recreation
I refuse to believe OP missed it

>>713161857
>expecting players to read

>>713161913
Listen and believe.

>>713161806
will they give keys for free to the owners of the original version?

>>713161956
LIVE AND LEARN

>>713162143
No. Only those who preordered the SS1 Remake

>>713157484 (OP)
>getting filtered by this when a log you find specifically tells you what to look for.
the roll-slop generation everybody

>>713161806
Only thing I'm looking forward to is an actual functional multiplayer.
I'm gonna mod all the low-res/low-poly models back in.

>>713158002
>makes it sound like an area
only if you're a retard
a terminal is an area, terminals refers to multiple instances of a single thing
and in most fucking sci-fi games, terminals is used as another word for monitor, computer or screen that is typically built for one use and for use by multiple people

I dropped this boomerslop the moment I realized that the enemies respawn endlessly

>>713163951
multiplayer ruins the game though
you have to share everything, including credits and cyber modules
all horror and survival disappears because you always respawn when you die
in fact dying becomes hilarious

>>713161806
if they do a good job of rebalancing the game then I'll probably play it eventually. otherwise not interested.

>>713164065
>multiplayer ruins the game though
have to disagree.
of course the game is meant to be played alone for the first time but after multiple playthroughs, playing the game in multiplayer adds hilarity and lightheartedness. however the constant crashes and desync issues made it a pain in the ass to get it working properly.

>>713164065
Pretty sure everyone gets the full amount of modules.
That's not to say that multiplayer SS2 is at all good, but at least you have that.

>>713164065
do you still have to pay the nanite cost when you die on a high difficulty? that'd surely cause a game over if someone ran out of nanites

>>713164147
I watched IGN play through the first area of MedSci and the hybrids were still doing the same damage. Doesn't look like they've changed the difficulty

>>713157484 (OP)
Because an audio log literally tells you, you drooling retard.

>>713164007
Why is that a problem?

>>713157484 (OP)
i had to start my game over in ss1 remake because I somehow lost all the plastique thinking it wasn't that important

>>713164658
yeah, they probably should have made it take up more inventory space like it did in the original to stop people from accidentally doing that

>>713164657
I'm playing blind so I'm doing a lot of exploration back and forth, and I like clearing an area and knowing it's clear. The combat is annoying in this game and you can easily die, and the respawning enemies are just too annoying and not comfy at all.

>>713164759
What level have you made it to? The game becomes a breeze after Engineering

>>713164657
Because I want a comfy easy time in my mutant robot infested space station

>>713164801
I don't remember what it was called, I played for 2 hours post-tutorial. Maybe I will try again and power through the initial slog.

>>713164831
robots can't mutate

>>713164952
Not with that attitude

>>713164759
>System Shock
>not comfy at all
Oh no! How can a sci-fi-horror fps with rpg elements not be comfy?!

>>713164908
Yeah the first two decks are a bit of a slog but respawns will only be a minor inconvenience after that to keep you on your toes. Now if you played System Shock 1 and dealt with its instantaneous invisible mutant respawns in a dark environment then you would really be raging

>>713165128
>invisible mutant respawns in a dark environment then you would really be raging
It's really not

>>713165472
not what? dark? invisible?

>>713157484 (OP)
>log literally says they are hidden in art terminals

surprised you made it that far with your iq

>>713165574
The implication that it's rage inducing.

>>713160438
bad for you

>>713164519
yes and yes. that is the way it is.

>>713164612
man, ign dudes really dont know shit. it seemed like someone who had played the game before was playing it but man it was awful to watch. also they failed at climbing on the desk xD

>>713157484 (OP)
I get your struggle but when you see a giant fucking "3" plastered in one of the corners of the room that's generally immediately flagged as a code component. The shittiest part about gathering this info is that you generally have to run through it twice with infinitely respawning enemies because the game doesn't tell you you need a code when you enter the area

>>713157484 (OP)
I rarely talk about it because many people didn't play it or finish it. It falls off hard in the finale, personally, which kills all motivation for replays.
It succeeds greatly on atmosphere and design, and Shodan is fantastic, but I found combat dull.

>>713165940
the beginning and end both suck. not good for a game less than 10 hours. shame since the story is so good

>>713165637
I was pretty annoyed the first time I did that section. This was PRE-mouselook mods as well. The guy who designed the level even admitted on the anniversary stream he thought it was a bad idea

>>713165714
Yeah well I wanted a little more value added. VR was on the cards but Facebook stepped in and cancelled their support for it

>>713166342
They also said Fallout 3 is a good immersive sim, so you know they're right

>>713166681
Do you actually believe maintenance was a well designed level?

When are they doing Thief?

>>713166785
It's a incredibly small level that I can't call it poorly designed either. I do praise it for the illusion of depth that the darkness creates.

It shines in the 2nd half when your return and have to navigate the panel mazes while Security 1 bots patrol. The invso mutants aren't a big enough nuisance for me to be irate with them especially with one of the best weapons being on the same floor

>>713166785
I refuse to believe people are that fucking retarded to get filtered by maintenance deck. Invisible enemies are interesting concept and you get rapier on the same level as they appear at so all the challenge is gone right away anyway. It's a cool deck and I don't care that some dev backed down saying it's bad. System Shock is dickish on purpose and it's something I like a lot

>>713167195
The same stream I believe anon is referencing mentioned they put Cyborg Assassin in annoying positions to be dicks.

This reminds me of the Conker dev LP when they said they were hardcore back then and modern gamers would cry about it if they made it now. They also admit that they suck shit at the game and would probably tone down the difficulty, but that's because they suck shit at it as old men

>>713166961
>>713167195
The rapier is hidden on the deck so that's not entirely fair. You also need to find the light attachment to even see on that level. Now imagine doing this back in 1995 using keyboard controls and an extremely low resolution. The invisible mutants respawn instantly and fire silent projectiles. There's no surgical unit on the level either. The rest of the game is no where near as dickish as that level except perhaps for some of shodan's traps. But yes, if I was playing the modern version with customizable controls, mouselook, high resolution, high framerate and I knew where the rapier was it becomes trivial.

>>713167568
>Hidden
It's the first door to your left. The keyboard controls are non issue. Yes, I've played this and their other games like this. I never not reached this place without the flashlight, I think you might find one here too but you can also use the night vision patches.

The only thing I can't speak is low fps and resolution. I still won't say this the worst floor. Level 7 is worse due to it's more confusing layout and Cyborg Enforcers melting your hp if you don't ambush them

>>713167818
And then up a ladder and through some tunnels but it's guarded by a security bot 1 to dissuade you. I don't think a lot of people took that route to begin with so their resources would just be drained by constant attacks.

Engineering is well lit and has a lot of corners you can lean around. Plus you have all your gadgets and seriously powerful weapons by then. Another thing is those particular enemies actually make a noise as you approach their vicinity. Harder to navigate than every other level, sure.

>>713168102
A plain view ladder and a single hallway with a dead end. You already have a mag pulse at this point. The Security bot has no chance.

Even IF you don't have the resources, Shock 1 doesn't block much to the player. You can easily dash to the Executive floor.

>>713166174
Medsci is a PERFECT introduction to the game's mechanics. It's Engineering that spikes the difficulty like crazy.

Fuck searching those Cargo Bays.

Bump

>>713166450
They could easily add it back in if they just drop motion controls. Modders are doing it with bolt on front ends ffs. Not even costum ones. Sshock 1 remake is fantastic with UEVR

Same reason you're supposed to backtrack for the reactor shutdown code in SS1.

SS1 remake art style mogs SS2 sadly.

>>713157484 (OP)
SS2 assumed you had 2 neurons to rub together and didn't pander to the lowest common denominator, which is one of the reasons it's so good.

Play the Christine Fan Missions NOW

>>713172959
I've only really played Ponterbee Station, but it was so long ago that I don't remember anything from it aside from the voice acting of the main villain. I might give it a shot since I haven't played the entire trilogy.

>>713173557
Theyre worth checking out since theyre the only notable fms outside of Return to the UNN. Terri Brosius actually provided new lines and dubbed over the SHODAN lines in Ponterbee and Nightwalker which is really cool.

>>713157484 (OP)
Let me guess anon, you struggled with the Golden Claw puzzle door too?

You’re supposed to listen to the audio logs instead of just putting them on in the background and wait for the objective to update.

>>713175128
>Terri Brosius actually provided new lines and dubbed over the SHODAN lines in Ponterbee and Nightwalker which is really cool
Wow, really? I remember beating the game, but SHODAN wasn't voiced by Terri. Gonna check it out for sure.

>>713157484 (OP)

It's spelled out in at least one audio log, probably multiple ones

>>713164612

enemy damage is not the problem, the problem is Energy weapons suck dick outside of putting 1 point for the laser pistol to have something to shoot cameras/droids with. Exotic skill is also redundant, despite being a requirement for the strongest melee weapon in the game. Heavy skill gives you a godlike grenade launcher, a completely useless weapon and a BFG that gets outclassed by the Assault Rifle (which, admittedly, is too good at what it does)

>>713164759

Game's quite unforgiving at the start but soon you'll see all the hybrids as loot pinatas. The difficulty curve follows a sinusoid pattern at least until you get the Assault Rifle, which is OP

>>713164952

Tell that to SHODAN

>>713161806
Not for forty fucking dollars I'm not

>>713178169

It costs 20 Euro, where are you getting $40?

>>713176804
I don't get why people obsess over the Crystal Shard. Laser Rapier has way longer reach.

>but muh overhead smash
Overhead smash is an awful nuisance due to how slow it is.

>>713178347
Laser Rapier has bad damage against organics, not really a problem if you want to invest in the typical melee skills and psi spells but it's still the weakest melee for normal characters without all that stuff. It's upside of doing more damage to bots kinda stinks because they all blow up in your face outside of midwives and assassins so you shouldnt melee them to begin with.

>>713157484 (OP)
An audio log right by two of the monitors tells you.

Overcharged Laser Pistol with decent Energy weapons skills will one-shot most enemies, and the Laser Rapier with some Psi powers (which can last like 5+ minutes per cast) will decimate even the Rumblers while inside The Many.

>>713179509
>Overcharged Laser Pistol
My favorite way to play SS2 lately is to play energy only and carry a bunch of laser pistols all set to Overcharge. You nuke everything in the game by swapping between them while one is on cooldown. 3-4 lets you deal with basically any enemg but you'll need to make sure they're all at least mod level 1.

>>713172939
No. If they had known what a mouth breather the average target audience is, they definitely would have dumbed it down. Ken Levine is notorious for aggressively dumbing down bioshock due to the experience from sshock2

>OSA
>Wrench
You don't need more

>>713180035
It's a pretty boring run. I think I'll go for early game grenade launcher in my remaster playthrough

>>713178347
Rapier has longer reach but only deals half damage to annelids. It's great for taking out cyborg assassins I guess