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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:29:48 PM No.713174467
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He's right.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:31:17 PM No.713174551
Cite 5 examples where the lack of it did. No need to wait for an answer: he can't.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:31:26 PM No.713174567
>>713174467 (OP)
I only play games on ez mode nowadays, but I'm not a zoomer like 90% of this board
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:31:32 PM No.713174573
"He" needs to git gud and stop being a pansy little bitch
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:32:36 PM No.713174652
>>713174467 (OP)
not gonna read it, but its absolutely wrong. Most people cheat at something and then realize it wasn't as much fun as if they had played normally at some point in their childhood, although there are a few broken individuals who only seem to enjoy the act of cheating and don't care about the games themselves.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:33:27 PM No.713174701
>>713174567
normal mode in modern games is already easy mode. Even my mother usually picks normal
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:34:23 PM No.713174752
>>713174551
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls 2
>Dark Souls 3
>Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
>Elden Ring
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:34:55 PM No.713174783
>>713174752
trvke
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:35:32 PM No.713174819
>>713174701
sure it is buddy, you can enjoy getting frustrated at the game while I'm actually having fun
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:36:42 PM No.713174892
>>713174652
nobody said shit about cheating retard
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:37:36 PM No.713174956
>>713174467 (OP)
Sekiro does have difficult spike issues, it isn't remotely linear.

out of the first 3 bosses you can fight 2 of them are harder than anything you fight through mid-game.

you have very limited options to encounters if you hit a wall, while there are some branching points where you can come back to a hard boss later you are frequently hard stuck until it clicks for you.

i personally dropped the game on the second Owl fight that takes place in the burning room the Madam Butterfly fight was in and never went back to it.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:37:51 PM No.713174972
>>713174752
>Dark Souls
>the game that literally got famous due to not having an "easy mode"
>somehow this means it was ruined by the lack of one
even normalfags, who are all the filthiest of casuals, acknowledge DS1's lack of an easy mode as part of the appeal, what's your excuse anon?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:38:08 PM No.713174996
Here's the crux of this whole issue. People like him view games as "content" that you need to get through, like a book or a movie. They don't find the act of just playing for the sake of it enjoyable, which is fine on it's own but problematic when they start demanding that the whole industry caters to them.

There are enough handholding movie games as is, play those.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:38:11 PM No.713175002
Sekiro has difficulty options though. Easy mode is on by default.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:38:25 PM No.713175020
Souls games should have easy mode, except the only thing it affects is increasing soul gain by like 5x
The game will be easier if you play it normally, it reduces tedious grind, and importantly doesn't actually affect your parameters compared to a player of the same level
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:38:44 PM No.713175045
>>713174956
you quit at one of, if not the best boss in the game.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:39:18 PM No.713175079
>>713175020
Souls games do have an easy mode. It's called magic.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:39:37 PM No.713175097
>>713174892
is god mode not an easy mode anon? does it not make the game easier? this isn't complicated, "cheating" is just another way to say "turning on easy mode".
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:40:01 PM No.713175132
>>713174467 (OP)
An easy mode completely torpedoes the concept of a learning curve, since the game can never count on you being forced to learn lessons at the right time.
Sekiro is almost entirely built on a learning curve and consequently the base game starts you on easy mode anyway, only unlocking optional hard modes on NG+ or later in the game.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:40:14 PM No.713175150
>>713175079
yeah yeah we all know, souls games have easy mode it's called using anything except naked fists only hardcore run.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:40:33 PM No.713175171
Honestly, FromSoft should just make a joke easy mode where you beat everything in 1-hit just so the whinners shut up.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:41:06 PM No.713175213
>>713175045
i was hard stuck on that boss for a couple days, it just wasn't clicking for me when he is mostly just a harder version of the boss you already fought.

i don't find shit like that enjoyable, for example i beat Malenia in Elden Ring and was stuck on it long enough that when i finally beat it i felt *nothing*, i bet Owl 2 electric boogaloo would have been the same thing.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:41:14 PM No.713175219
I don't give a rat's nutsack about fromslop games and their masochist fanbase.
But gatekeeping is always a good thing and I hope they never put an easy mode in for worthless journos. Either a game is made for you or it's not and you need to get over it. Adapt or die motherfucker.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:41:31 PM No.713175234
>>713174972
>normalfags
if these are the people whose opinion you're following then you have a serious problem
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:41:53 PM No.713175252
>>713174467 (OP)
Wrong actually. Many games are bad because the devs felt the need to include a difficulty slider beyond new game and NG+. If you don't have that you can actually focus on designing the game instead of just playing with damage and health modifiers.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:42:24 PM No.713175296
>>713174467 (OP)
Every game should have a proper normal mode, aka sex haver mode. You'll die a few times but it'll still be enjoyable with a challenge, but nothing annoying.

Winning in a game is failing at life, so it should be something designed to relax and let you sit back and enjoy. Hard modes, challenges, achievements, looting and crafting, online gaming, daily rewards, non-linear/open world in games that doesn't warrant it...it's all shit.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:42:31 PM No.713175307
>>713175097
no, you're just retarded
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:43:16 PM No.713175353
they're right, casual secondaries pop up like flies even if they don't play the game at all
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:45:11 PM No.713175475
>>713174467 (OP)
Yeah I don't care if some people want to play on easy, of course it should be added, nothing is lost and more people can play the game.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:46:15 PM No.713175557
>>713175475
You experience is actively made worse if they devs have to split their attention between balancing several difficulty modes.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:46:32 PM No.713175576
>>713174467 (OP)
>Videogames are art and artists vision should be respected
At the same time
>I don't care if the artist vision for this game is that the game is hard I WANT TO PLAY IT ME ME ME ME ME
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:46:56 PM No.713175606
>>713174467 (OP)
easy mode wastes resources that could go into other areas of the game. it forces devs to
>shy away from obstacles and enemies suitable for higher difficulties that can't be reworked for easy mode without substantial work
>rebalance enemies and their kits
>check AI behavior and alter routines, and in some cases come up with entirely new (and pointlessly easy) attacks
>redo entire sections of levels and rework tutorials and dialogue
>change enemy counts and types
easy is a waste of time and money. I'd rather have cheats like infinite lives, moonjumping, ricocheting bullets, noclipping, etc. and the ability to tune shit myself (e.g. lives and continues, gravity, weapons, ammo count) so I can make my own fun
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:46:58 PM No.713175608
>>713175234
>even retard casuals think this game doesn't need an easy mode
>but anon... anon alone is right that the game is too hard!
>that secretly makes him the hardcore badass, and not the absolute filthiest retard casual
sure lil' bro. I'm just laughing at you for being the king of all casuals here. Even retarded normalfags put more effort into games than you do, aren't you ashamed of that? that's like losing to a retard in a math contest.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:47:59 PM No.713175661
>>713175307
I'm not the one asking for games to be made even easier than they already are.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:49:15 PM No.713175743
>>713175557
Devils advocate; its pretty easy to just set in a take 50% damage do 50% more damage
Not all games are combat focused i grant though
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:50:45 PM No.713175858
Play on easy mode all you like, but if youre a streamer and you play easy mode, be prepared to be mocked and teased.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:52:19 PM No.713175962
>>713174467 (OP)
I like games without difficulty level, but I don't mind games with two difficulty levels - easy and normal. Games with customizable difficulty level are trash it's usually some ubislop
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:52:33 PM No.713175980
>>713174467 (OP)
I like feeling like I accomplished something by beating a difficult game, and I gain satisfaction that normie shitters are forever filtered from the same satisfaction.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:53:20 PM No.713176046
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>be vidya "journalist"
>new popular game comes out
>it's hard
>everybody online is talking about all the cool things in the game
>you can't because you're stuck at the first boss
>write an article about how all games need an easy mode
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:55:14 PM No.713176189
>>713174467 (OP)
I want journos to suffer and further lose relevancy, that's why easy modes need to be purged. I'm sorry for people who are shit at games but actually interested being left behind but it's a sacrifice we have to make.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:56:19 PM No.713176275
>2019
He's dead.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:56:52 PM No.713176312
>>713175557
They don't need to really put effort into it, just half enemy damage and double player damage or something like that depending on normal difficulty.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:58:05 PM No.713176384
>>713175219
That's my view too. I personally think easy modes are fine for story focused stuff, but if the point of the game is the challenge, then bypassing that is retarded. It'd be like putting in a "summarise this for me, grok" mode in story-driven games.
I play most shit on medium, or easy if I don't find the gameplay fun, but do like the story, but I don't really need it to be like that. If something ain't easy, I'll either git gud or play something else. No wukkaz m8
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:01:26 PM No.713176607
>>713175002
This. If Bloodborne had an easy mode where the wooden shield is now a 100% damage reduction shield people would be calling it a smart way of helping the player instead of just changing numbers and calling it a day. That's exactly what Sekiro does. Game about deflecting that doesn't punish you for not timing it right unless you're playing on the harder difficulty.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:01:49 PM No.713176628
why do "people" keep giving attention to journalists? why does op have to go to the website and post that shit here? why do people care so much about journalist opinions? why do people care so much about game awards which is just more journalist opinions? they're literally the most biased opinions you could ever get, opinions from people who got a job writing mostly from nepotism that also don't actually like video games and hate playing them, why do they get so much attention? why do people keep consuming this garbage and discussing it in this very thread? what's the fucking point???
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:05:31 PM No.713176878
>>713175608
>m-m-MUH CASUALS
not everybody enjoys losing at their video game anon
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:06:31 PM No.713176950
>>713175661
got any examples of these """""easy""""" games you're blabbering about?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:08:34 PM No.713177089
>>713174467 (OP)
I fucking hate difficulty selection shit, because you never know which difficulty is intended.
In some games "hardest" difficulty stands for normal, in some going above actual normal just turns the game into an antifun slog with bloated hp bars.
Is it so fucking hard to just make one difficulty? Even lazy retarded asset-flipping japs from fromshit can do it.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:08:46 PM No.713177102
>people shouldnt be allowed to enjoy something because i have a small penis
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:10:29 PM No.713177224
>>713176628
>what's the fucking point???
to make us all insane. I'm dead serious
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:10:55 PM No.713177254
>>713174467 (OP)
I'm fine with easy modes but devs need to make it where you can't Platinum a game without beating it on the hardest difficulty so at least people can look and see that you're a pussy for beating a game on easy
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:15:37 PM No.713177582
Isn't it weird how despite Elden Ring having spastic bosses with infinite combos and selling a gorillion times more than Sekiro no one bitched about this? There are easy mods, but not easy mode begging. Normalfags can easily accept that something isn't for them and either modify their game accordingly or just fuck off.
Only "hardcore gamers" are little bitches like this.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:16:15 PM No.713177628
>>713177254
I agree, but only if all devs involved in designing the gameplay and anything related to it will be obliged to clear the hardest difficulty before their work would be considered done.
There is more than enough faggots designing challenge in the games who can't even remotely approach to clear it themselves. Coop action games like vermintide or helldivers are prime examples.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:19:26 PM No.713177858
>>713177582
Well, ER doesn't require the player to actually learn any of its bosses. The winning tactic is to out-grind and/or overpower them with that broken bullshit weapon/ash you found in a dark corner of the map somewhere. You don't really have to git gud at all.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:21:33 PM No.713177983
>>713177858
>The winning tactic is to out-grind and/or overpower them with that broken bullshit weapon/ash you found in a dark corner of the map somewhere.
Can you explain why doing this is bad and rolling like a cuck until you win is good?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:22:35 PM No.713178058
>>713176878
So you admit being below casual? We can call it journo tier if you like.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:24:15 PM No.713178179
>>713174752
All of these games have easy modes. It's called katana build.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:24:40 PM No.713178212
>>713177858
Which is the point people always made to journalists seething. "Use this overpowered weapon", "summon help from NPCs or players", "abuse poise" and so on.
Engage with the game's systems and community to make your experience easier, as it was intended. Creating a level playing field and a shared experience where users can help each other because we all went through the same challenge, regardless of how easy or hard it was for each person.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:39:11 PM No.713179241
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>>713174467 (OP)
>every game should cater to everyone
Play something else
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:41:36 PM No.713179392
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>>713174467 (OP)
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:42:40 PM No.713179453
>>713174467 (OP)
>playing game
>it gets a bit tough
>open menu, turn difficulty down
>finish the game but missed the opportunity to improve
OR
>start playing a game
>easy/medium/hard options available
>pick easy because you're a newfag
>sleepwalk through the whole game never being challenged or engaged, ignore half the mechanics, don't get your money's worth
So whether the difficulty is changeable on the fly or locked in at the start, the easy mode is a disaster that makes the game worse for anyone who engages with it. The only people who benefit are """journalists""" who feel strangely compelled to see the credits roll under any circumstances before they can shit out their pathetic review.
Modal difficulty selection is awful outdated design. Difficulty selection should be something that happens inside the game, not something that happens inside a menu.

>>713177582
Wrong. The overpowered builds in Elden Ring are so vastly overpowered that they're like playing another game, and the openness of the world means any retard can watch a tiktok video showing them how to run past 1000 enemies to pick up a sword that does 20 gorillian damage with infinite range every time you press L2. Dark Souls had it's easy mode in the form of magic and summons but it was never as huge a gap as in Elden Ring.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:45:36 PM No.713179657
>>713179453
>Difficulty selection should be something that happens inside the game, not something that happens inside a menu.
"If you used game mechanics you didn't beat the game" fromshit brainrot really did a number on you small-dicked subhumans.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:46:57 PM No.713179728
>>713179392
What's the context of this?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:49:49 PM No.713179943
>>713179728
It's all accessibility options turned to the maximum. Squeenix likes devs to implement those and most modern titles have something similar. First time I noticed it was in Nier Automata, where you have options for auto dodge/attack/shoot etc.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:50:46 PM No.713180013
>>713174467 (OP)
Difficulty modes change how a game is fundamentally designed because everything has to be arbitrarily scalable in order to make difficulty switching seamless to create and play. That's why something like dark souls would never work with an easy mode. By the time you rework all of the less forgiving aspects of the game, you're just playing a completely different game. Why is it so hard for people to accept that some games aren't made for them? You don't see people asking for Give Me God of War mode in fucking animal crossing. Are the sekiro steam achievements that fucking important to you?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:12:14 PM No.713181536
>>713175213
But the second owl fight is a straight out optional fight which you have to do specific actions for to even access. Why didn't you just leave?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:13:34 PM No.713181635
>>713174467 (OP)
Doom the dark ages was too easy on the default setting and made everyone think the game was bad and too easy. While its actually amazing and hard if you make it harder.

So yes a game thats all combat can be boring if its too easy.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:15:28 PM No.713181779
>>713178179
*str build with over the shoulder weapon
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:38:42 PM No.713183498
>>713174467 (OP)
For me that's ok, as long as they state what's the intended "balanced" difficulty.
Might as well throw a hard/chaos mode, too, for those that want an extra challenge.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:40:19 PM No.713183612
>>713176878
You're not even playing a game if there isn't a losing condition. It's a toy at that point.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:43:06 PM No.713183803
>>713181635
Thats not easy mode.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:43:15 PM No.713183813
>>713174467 (OP)
>game is boring
>just assume that's how it is
>years later
>try again on hardmode
>it's actually extremely fun
kingdom hearts
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:44:42 PM No.713183908
>>713175234
as oppose to the faggot desperately carrying water for a journalist?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:49:28 PM No.713184275
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if you can't be assed to play a game then just cheat? that's what I always do
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:51:31 PM No.713184421
>>713174467 (OP)
>using Sekiro of all things to advocate for easy mode
You can always tell when they haven't played the game they're talking about. Firecrackers and parry spam beat 95% of all bosses easily.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:52:08 PM No.713184471
>>713175606
niggabro, just cut their health and damage by half like other games who gave no shit, why does it have to be complicated, easymode players don't deserve effort
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:53:36 PM No.713184582
>>713175980
>I like feeling like I accomplished something by beating a difficult game
That's because you're a loser, working retail is harder than Elden Ring
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:53:51 PM No.713184604
>>713174467 (OP)
The point of an easy mode IS to ruin a game though.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:54:15 PM No.713184637
>>713184471
This, they just have to balance the intended "regular/normal" mode. Then they can create an easy/hard mode with 25-50% modifiers on resistance and damage dealt; screw balance on those.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:56:13 PM No.713184804
>>713184582
it's only "harder" by virtue of the fact that video games are fun and working retail makes you want to blow your brains out
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:57:49 PM No.713184925
>>713176628
>why do people care so much about game awards which is just more journalist opinions? they're literally the most biased opinions you could ever get, opinions from people who got a job writing mostly from nepotism that also don't actually like video games and hate playing them, why do they get so much attention?
pre-emptive anti-E33 cope lmao. it's going to win whether you like it or not.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:58:44 PM No.713184996
>>713184582
No, that's because you're a miserable sack of shit that has apparently never done anything rewarding in their life and has no idea that difficulty isn't inherently tied to how rewarding something feels.
Working retail is a joke compared to oakum picking. Not sure anyone every felt very accomplished for finishing that task.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:02:21 PM No.713185268
>he plays a translated version of the game because learning the original language is too hard
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:04:26 PM No.713185447
>>713183803
I read it as "can a game being easy ruin a game".
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:07:41 PM No.713185679
>>713174752
>Sorceries/Havel's
>Rapier
>katanas
>firecrackers
>spirit ashes
all of them have easy mode
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:10:05 PM No.713185869
>>713185679
The last two I agree, but the first 3 no. You should not be forced to change your entire build to make a game easier. It's even worse in DS1 because you could not reset your SL.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:15:30 PM No.713186269
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>>713184421
All of these games have an easy mode if you're willing to engage with the mechanics. These retards that demand a difficulty slider really just want the game to play itself.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:19:48 PM No.713186640
>>713174467 (OP)
>devs make the game they want to make, the experience they intend to convey
>"NNNOOOOO HOW CAN YOU NOT JUST CATER TO ME, I MUST BE PART OF THIS, HOW CAN I JUST NOT PLAY THIS GAME THAT I DON'T LIKE AND NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE COOL NEW THING I DESERVE TO BE PART OF THE GROUP NNNOOOOOO"
You in fact don't need to play every game, if the game as it was intended to be experienced doesn't appeal to you for whatever reason, just don't play it, it's that easy
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:21:33 PM No.713186769
>>713174752
This has to be the worst answer of all because these games barely have story

Like i can kind of justify the easy mode argument for games with a heavy storytelling element but here overcoming the bosses IS the game. Like, there is no game without it.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:24:48 PM No.713187037
>>713186769
Not quite. Back in DS1, my brother just wanted to play PvP, so I did some bosses for him kek
Now that I think about it, I did the same for him on DS3.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:26:55 PM No.713187203
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is easy mode and it absolutely ruins the game.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:27:47 PM No.713187273
>>713174752
>equips havels
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:28:05 PM No.713187302
>>713174467 (OP)
wrong. people who play games on easy mode shouldn't be allowed to discuss games.