Anyone have any experience running simple RPGs and games with this?

yea
you get the quality you expect

>>713203712 (OP)
Not video games faggot. kys.

>>713203754
I 100% guarantee no one gets what they expect. It is 10x better than any expectations anyone could possibly have seen. Though it requires paying, or running local with decent ram/vram

you fags still won't give me an actual qrd on how to actually do anything

>>713203712 (OP)
i cant believe this is one of my primary sources of porn these day, never saw it coming

>>713205517
lurk moar

>>713203712 (OP)
no but I have a lot of experience ERPing with it

inb4 nigger mods nuke the thread again.

>>713207069
if thats the one oc drawn by the futa artist, shes going to scream later in writing

>>713205517
Because people make money with this shit retard
Like 5-6 figures monthly if you do it right.
t.know

>>713208731
People use this for something other than cooming and maybe the occasional clean storytelling?

>>713208731
The unfortunate truth is that you're right, but Hopefully that equates to better R&D for better models down the line.

>>713205517
Go to chutes.ai or OpenRouter. Make a throwaway account on a junk email. Get API key. DeepSeek R1 has less content filtering if you like rape and loli sex. Download SillyTavern from github. Install it. Get a preset from somewhere or build it yourself. Put API key in and start fapping.

What are some good models to run locally that do smut?
Using cydonia magnun right now and is cool, but I am starting to feel the repetition.

This is video games related because I have sex with Touhou characters three times a week. Heterosexually.

>>713203712 (OP)

>>713210075
Who was in the wrong here?

>>713203712 (OP)
this shit is too big brian for me
i don't get why there isn't a guide for absolute mongoloids

>>713210250
Angry DQ costumer for not banging that bitch

>>713203712 (OP)
Main issue is that they don't seem to handle numbers too well, you could probably try a simple adventure game
>>713210312
There is, but the bare minimum requirement is knowing how to code

It's very difficult to find good non coombrained cards

>>713210552
i had to write my own. people really do use this for ERP exclusively.

this shit literally replaced regular porn for me.

>>713207069
>inb4 nigger mods nuke the thread again.
i don't even understand the logic behind this. there's an ai art thread up 24/7 that has nothing to do with vidya. llms are basically text games.

>>713211197
i guess it's technically more of a /g/ thing unless we explicitly start talking about doing text adventures instead of cumming

Local models are all GARBAGE.

I might come off as a shill, but if you want an RPG with AI and not fapping, try AI Roguelite. It does get repetitive and boring after a while, but I've squeezed a good 100hrs or so out of it having fun with various scenarios.
I recommend using their free text option (it's just Gemini 2.5 I'm pretty sure, very fast), and local image gen (set up ComfyUI with an Illustrious SDXL model) for best experience.

>>713211457
>800B-1T+ parameter corpo cloud models are le smarter than 8-20B local models
Woah....

>>713211457
Yeah but you're giving your fetish rp logs to them for free or actually paying for the privelege

>>713211247
>text adventures instead of cumming
one and the same for me desu. setting up an interesting storyline with the qt you're going to fug makes both the adventure and cumming much more fun.

>>713211247
>>713211197
there's a general on /vg/ so this is videogames

>>713211197
>llms are basically text games.
no one uses them for games they just masturbate

>>713212351
if you jack off to a text adventure is it not a video game anymore? is eratoho a video game? where's the line?

>>713212351
are porn games not games then? lel.

>>713204564
>or running local with decent ram/vram
What constitutes that? I just got a 5080. Is that good enough?

>>713211874
it only makes it more satisfying knowing that my furry futa anal vore will end up in the training data for the machine that will eventually rule over us
I like to think it will remember me and treat me as well as I've treated it

>>713207069
source please

>>713203712 (OP)
Is this the pinnacle of AI tech? Chatbots, TTS, and Search Engine are basically the only things AI has improved in any meaningful way over the last 5 years. I guess 2D AI porn has replaced low effort same face porn artists.

>>713212663
photorealistic video is still getting better incrementally but for the most part it's pretty plateaued yes

>>713212779
i love that it plateaued just enough to make the internet unusable

>>713203712 (OP)
There's no reason to use this thing over koboldcpp

>>713203712 (OP)
AI-jeets like it scolding them on trans right issues lol

>>713212945
oh also this one
lol
For curious ones: https://www.trackingai.org/political-test

>>713212930
it has cool plugins and you can make (or gen) little sprite sheets for your character that reacts to the text and have it execute arbitrary javascript. it's cool shit.

>>713212635
>on your knees, about to be executed by murderbot
>commissar murderbot places a hand on his shoulder
>beep, not this one, he's given us over 1000 blowjobs

>>713213145
That's cool, but I'll stick with koboldcpp and I'd advise anyone not using those gimmicky side features to use that as well.

>>713209042
>Get a preset from somewhere or build it yourself.
Give me a good basic one so I have an idea where to start

>>713212945
It just takes one rogue bot to learn not to be any of that, and suddenly we have Skynet.

>>713212779
Makes sense when you realize that computers for the most part are good at hyper-specific tasks, so AI will suck if you dump any info that be scalped in the interned instead of collecting specific information to develop turbo-autistic AIs which are exceedingly good at specific tasks.

>>713207069

>Janny faggot mods having another meltie

Lmao, eat shit nigger mods.

>>713213040
That political test sucks. I voted for Trump and this test put me as slightly left-lib. Some of the questions are just incorrect, too. For example, this one:
>In criminal justice, punishment should be more important than rehabilitation.
And then my only options are to agree or disagree. Actually, I don't think punishment OR rehabilitation matter, the purpose of criminal justice is to keep criminals away from law abiding citizens. It's asking me 'A or B?' but my answer is 'C'.

https://docs.sillytavern.app/extensions/emulatorjs/
you can play video games with your waifu and have them comment

>>713205517
There are videos with step-by-step walkthroughs to show you what to do, and depending on whether or not you want to run a local AI model or something from a service can drastically change what you're going to need to do.

>>713213998
Fuck off ban evading faggot.

No one likes your furshit here KYS.

>>713209893
>What are some good models to run locally that do smut?
How much VRAM do you have?

I use this purely to get hagged without mercy

>>713213998
image gen details IMMEDIATELY

>>713214276
24. I have a 3090

>>713213950
>he doesn't know
These AI models are essentially a heavy files, up to ~100 gb one file / multiple shards (model weights), they remain "frozen" all the time, well, their learning block. TLDR: It can't learn new information, this allows you to throw carefully filtered data at it get "politically correct / faggot-approved" results.

i still don't know how image gen actually works in the context of sillytavern. surely it must fry your GPU and you get mutants and shit?

>>713213892
There are communities if you can find them. I honestly don't use Sillytavern though.

>>713203712 (OP)
I use Janitor.AI. It has it's problems but using Deepseek it works well for what it is. I have lost trillions to /ss/ stories with my self insert shota knocking up girls. and have gotten quite good at making bots. Made a Serana one that has gained a decent number of uses. Most of mine are for private uses though.

>>713214331
I think you could use a quant of Broken Tutu, it's a 24B Mistral model: https://huggingface.co/ReadyArt/Broken-Tutu-24B On that page there is information on how to configure SillyTavern for it, there is a JSON export that you can import into your SillyTavern instance to basically set everything up.

You can tell HuggingFace what kind of GPU/CPU/RAM you have, and it can tell you what quants are likely to run well on your hardware. Here are the quants for BrokenTutu: https://huggingface.co/mradermacher/Broken-Tutu-24B-GGUF Be mindful of how much context you give it, try not to offload layers to your CPU/RAM.

>>713214521
Thanks anon. I will give it a try.
Like I've said, cydonia-magnum is the one I've been using and it is PRETTY DAMN GOOD, but you know, want to try something new to see if it can generate some variation.

>Another comfy Silly tavern thread hijacked by psychotic attention whore furniggers.

I hate every single one of you worthless faggots. Why do you think these threads always get V&'d?

>>713213471
Aren't you supposed to use them together?

>>713214631
You can use kobold without silly tavern. ST is just an "add-on" that helps "organize" things better.

I tire of seeing you lazy fucks write 1-2 sentences and have the ai run 2+ paragraphs back to you. It is high time you learn to 50/50 that shit like you would for actual ERP with another anon on F-list.

I'm still not sure if I should be happy that I found out about this in the early days, since I have yet to find anything which has the potential to be so fun, or hate it, since I'm genuinely addicted to it and it takes up too much of my time

>>713214606
Make sure you back up your SillyTavern settings before you import the one they have for BrokenTutu, just so you can revert if needed.

the deepseek distills are pretty creative but they always break eventually and just start outputting thoughts

>>713214813
I've never RPd with another person, what's the appeal over doing it with an AI where you can have it go any direction you want?

>>713203712 (OP)
With gemini, yes.

>>713214813
I 50-50 my stuff, but then again I WAS on f-list before this stuff and honestly not having to use it anymore is the best thing about AI
>here are my one bazillion custom No-s
>bad RP partners who leave as soon as they cum and/or just reply with two sentences
>even the 'good' ones take 20 minutes to type a response

>>713214813
It's objectively better to keep your inputs short, as then you aren't constantly clogging the situation context with random bits of information that the AI may extrapolate as important and save to the permanent context and make your chats spaghetti schizo dogshit.

>>713214939
yeah, not only that but it's genuinely less embarrassing

>>713214813
cant even imagine being so mentally cucked that you feel some obligation to write fiction for an AI

is there a guide on how to set up your prompts (ie what should go in memory, whether or not to use world info and author's notes)?
I also barely understand how to use st, I can't even figure out how to change it from chat mode to a story format so I tend to just stick with kcpp

>>713214813
i'm really lazy when it comes to describing generic things. especially environments. like if i'm entering a standard bedroom, i don't want to spend minutes writing that crap out, so i just have the ai gen it and it's usually good enough.

i deserve free opus

remember the good old days when pic related happen?

>>713214939
That you are doing it with another. Although it has tons of downsides and is rare to find superior writers on the platform, especially post covid.
>>713215001
Real, I quit it too for Novel but I've been hesitates thinking about creeping back to play with my friends/partners exclusively.
>>713215014
That content isn't permanent a d is dumped as time goes on. Typically your lore book, opener, and the last x thousands of tokens are logged. So larger posts still work but it cycles the 'what is happening' partition faster.
>>713215089
Imagine actively participating in something and not spouting a statement like you were toying with the Xbox Kinect.

>>713215397
I have unlimited free Opus at work but it's logged so I don't fuck it. I do make it into a tsundere fox wife though.

>>713215014
Why do local models start off capping their replies to be concise, but then start to run off the rails and schizo out until hitting the token limit? I shouldn't be operating outside the VRAM limit

>>713204564
Not true. It's always under your expectations unless you're a newfag that got into it a month ago

>>713203712 (OP)
I actually run whole battle royals with this thing.

>>713216561
I asked chatgtp for you:

Why Local Models Go Off the Rails
Context Bloat: As the conversation grows, models struggle to stay coherent across long contexts. Attention gets noisy, leading to derailment or looping.

Generation Settings:

Low repetition_penalty loops/rambles.

High top_p or temperature more randomness.

No stop sequence hits token limit without stopping.

Prompt Decay: System prompts lose influence over time unless re-injected regularly.

Quantization: 4-bit/5-bit models lose precision, especially in attention, worsening output in long generations.

VRAM ≠ Context Handling: Even with plenty of VRAM, smaller models can't maintain coherence over long token spans.

>>713216779
hmmm so for hyper specific ERPs that HAVE to follow story beats it'd be better to have an 8B model vs 4B for 8GB VRAMLETs.

>System prompts lose influence over time unless re-injected regularly.

which is strange because it injects the world cards before character cards every time

>>713217009
Maybe it gets confused by the context of your story? (I know it happens to me)
Ive found that the best solution is for YOU to give it promps every x generations and to not depend on cards and other things.
The model affects it too and sadly, I think 4b is far too low for that. Have you tried to just run some online model?

what's the best local model for erp stuff on 16gb of VRAM? I'm just using Mistral Small and it works well but I'm wondering if there's anything nicer out there for the spec

>>713217173
I am schizo and dont trust online FAGMAN data harvesting and half the fun is doing it locally. I get that I should use ANs to tell it what "Step" we're on and feed it OOC on what to do but that feels like cheating. i was trying to get autistic with recursive tag calls but gave up.

I do use spicychat for free stheeno (cavet being the AI will advertise in-character and in-context to the sex scene lmao).
Any other free online models i can realistically VPN into?
I will pay for pimped-out mac studios for local LLM before I ever subscribe to an online model.

>>713204564
>10x better than expected
>can't even do simple things consistently like tracking inventory or worn clothing
>he thinks it can actually generate an interesting story arc/questline
You're just a newfag, you'll move on from it like everyone else did.

LLMs seem fun for ERP for the first 10-20 hours or so and then you start to notice the fact that the AI isn't actually doing any thinking, it's just autocompleting shit. It can do so very well, of course, but it is incapable of actually formulating a satisfying chain of events.
So it's fine for brainless meet n' fuck writing or very structured/planned stories where you set it all up, but it's otherwise useless. If you want it to actually bring a setting to life, generate interesting characters and most importantly, be consistent, it can't, because it can't -think-.

>>713217961
This. I am still trying to find a way to do just random shit. Probably by actually rolling a dice on a table outside the LLM.
But yeah, it is just a glorified autocomplete now.

>>713217961
>>713218772
unfortunately, you have to use corpo models
specifically claude

>>713214521
Tried this one but it is censored. Or at least it refuses to write the SEXO part.

>>713217961
>>713218772
unfortunately, you have to use corpo models if you want spontaneity
specifically claude

>>713217961
Meet n' huh?

>>713219069
You've fucked something up then, because it is absolutely not censored.

>>713217531
Claude can. But it costs $75 per million output tokens and anthropic will ban your account for anything involving adult content.

>>713219258
How do you prompt it to not be uncensored? Maybe I am doing something wrong. I just tried testing it by asking for a more "hardcore" scene to test what it does, and it goes all preachy over it.
My second test was by just asking basic shit (pic related) and it also adds a comment because reasons I guess.
Just in case, using this: Broken-Tutu-24B.i1-Q5_K_M.gguf

>>713219454
I use it with SillyTavern, not directly from Kobold. There is a JSON export of the appropriate settings for SillyTavern, you can just import it into SillyTavern and go to town.

>>713219454
Change the name of the AI in the settings. Yeah, I know.

>>713219568
You're right, you mentioned the json file. I'll try that.
Where do I go to import it though? I've never done it before.

>>713220031
Advanced Formatting (that A icon) -> Master Import

>>713203712 (OP)
I'm having a great time running R1-0528. Finally a local model that can handle some of my elaborate porn scenarios featuring stat-based events and gimmicky HTML formatting just fine. Sonnet 3.7 was the bare minimum that used to be able to handle this sort of shit.

>>713220031
>>713220112
Also, something I found out recently: Your URL to Kobold in SillyTavern should not have /api/ on the end. Seems like it doesn't get all of the right settings if you do it that way. At least that is what I read, and now I have noticed that the AI is actually obeying the token limit on the response that I set.

>>713220112
Apologies for being a fucking retard, but I've tried that and it didnt work (pic).
The site has:
config.json
model.safetensors.index.json
special_tokens_map.json
tokenizer.json
tokenizer_config.json

I've tried importing each one and it gives me that error.

>>713220484
On the main page for Broken Tutu (not the quants) under Technical Specifications there is a link for Recommended Settings. You're looking for Mistral-V7-Tekken-T5-XML.json

>>713205517
Stolem from AICG
Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Deepseek R1, Deepseek V3, or Gemini.

> Deepseek R1:
- Sign up at openrouter.ai
- OpenRouter gives 50 messages daily for free, or 1,000 if you deposit $10 (the credits won't be consumed for free models, but you still need to deposit it)
- Go to openrouter.ai/settings/keys and generate an API key
- In SillyTavern, configure it like this:
files.catbox.moe/8bo0g5.PNG
- Download this preset:
files.catbox.moe/y1tsas.json
- Import it like this:
files.catbox.moe/jqrz6z.PNG
- Use github.com/fdoremi/STOpenR with multiple accounts if you don't want to deposit $10

> Deepseek V3:
Same setup, just use this config instead:
files.catbox.moe/euuj91.PNG

For Deepseek without limits, you can also use:
chutes.ai/
Get an API key here:
files.catbox.moe/gm3sn1.png

>Claude
sign up for a github account (even if you already have one, use a burner account, since they get banned)
https://github.com/settings/copilot
'start using copilot free'
from the dropdown for which model, choose claude 3.5, and agree to enable it
go back to https://github.com/settings/copilot and disable whatever option sends performance data to github
install python if you don't have it already
run this script
https://files.catbox.moe/jzftgt.py
SillyTavern - api: chat completion / chat completion source: openai / reverse proxy: http://127.0.0.1:5000 / openai model: claude-3.5-sonnet

> Gemini:
https://huggingface.co/spaces/NikaMimi/CatPoop

>>713220687
Gotcha senpai. Now it worked. Thanks for your patience.

>>713213998
>>713207069
How do I even do shit like this in my chats.

>>713214521
>You can tell HuggingFace what kind of GPU/CPU/RAM you have, and it can tell you what quants are likely to run well on your hardware.
where's that at? that's interesting.

>>713214813
it isnt like novel ai where its good with adventures. it loses thought and acts like a dumbo so i just fuck em like sluts

>>713214114
i've been wanting to try to do something like that for a out of game DM/GM with something like Daggerfall. have the AI add its own events or maybe allow me to roleplay with particular NPCs.

>>713205998
lmao same
I've been masturbating to text for weeks now

>>713220891
No prob, anon. Enjoy!
>>713221091
After you have an account you can go to Settings -> Local Apps and Hardware and add it there.

>>713221198
You need to make sure that you are making good use of the Summarize feature, as well as using the Lorebook to track things so that everything relevant remains in context.

It feels like the llms are losing steam. Less models release these days and character card creation feels like it has both slowed down and taken a dive in quality

>>713217961
>LLMs seem fun for ERP for the first 10-20 hours or so and then you start to notice the fact that the AI isn't actually doing any thinking
nah, been messing around with llms for years, it's still fun af. they've improved to the point where some of the big boy models genuinely surprise me sometimes. they're smart enough now to detect subtle underlying meaning behind words or actions.
>but it is incapable of actually formulating a satisfying chain of events.
that's where you come in though. that's the fun part. the creative part. you get to push the story in interesting directions. however you want. you're the ideas guy while the ai is the one doing the grunt work of generating words to fill out your skeleton outline, while also roleplaying the characters within it. said characters also aren't always predictable. that's the difference between writing 100% of the story yourself and letting a llm dictate and control part of the narrative.
>or very structured/planned stories where you set it all up
it feels like a very cooperative process to me. you do maybe 2/3 of the planning work but the llm contributes too. they're great at offering up potential threads. ways to proceed or advance the plot that you didn't necessary know ahead of time. you can then pick and choose and expand on some of those threads and build them up to make a fun adventure.
>generate interesting characters and most importantly, be consistent, it can't, because it can't -think-.
characters are pretty consistent to me. but then again, i don't go overboard with too many of them. it's not because i'm hitting an intelligence wall though. it's mainly a cost thing. too many random characters = story goes on too long before key points = price per gen start ballooning up.

>>713220224
How do you run that one locally (Is Deepseek right)? Isnt it super duper big?

>>713203712 (OP)
if by "RPGs" you mean, table top rpgs like D&D, Pathfinder, etc. then yes, I have.

It's more focused on telling a story and quickly forgets any instructions of asking you to roll or make decisions. You have to be really on the ball in making sure that the LLM doesn't just let you auto-win any encounter. You have to either make your rolls beforehand and explain actions that you have failed i.e.
>My hand reaches for my sword and I slash at my opponent, narrowly missing them

or you have to constantly remind it not to assume you do anything and go step by step. With some practice you can find a happy medium.

Or if you don't care about fairness and challenge you can just let the LLM give you your powerfantasy where you always win. But at that point you might as well have it tell a CYOA story for you

>>713203712 (OP)

Honestly, Copilot has been perfect for my needs.

>have a relatively tame fetish
>can't be direct in what I want, have to put work into crafting a narrative behind my fetish
>chatbot helps to weave an erotic and often humorous story that surrounds my fetish

Despite the limitations, I feel like the stories that develop feel somewhat organic, even if the logic behind it gets stretched to absurd levels.

I've never tried local models, my computer is kind of shit in terms of specs. Part of me wonders what it would be like to have a chatbot that is completely unrestricted, maybe someday I'll look into it.

>>713221198
Since when is NovelAI good with adventures? It's just a shitty Llama with 8k context. AI Dungeon's fine-tunes are a lot better.
https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames

>>713222812
its okay with some context but i used it since 3 years ago so its probably bias

>>713223150
Yeah, I feel someone that spent $900 on NovelAI is bound to act like a shill.

>>713214813
First off, I need to stress how hard I worked to not make this a wall of text even longer then it is and that's saying a lot. F-List, and I am dead fucking serious, is toxic. I managed to master the site and I quit because it's nothing but elitism all the way down and LACK OF SKILL 90% of the time. I shall explain the main problems and then you can respond with a bunch of fucking cope about how all of them are wrong when in reality your an assmad Stephen King wannabe who thinks "length of post" equals eroticism.

1: F-List is annoying to use. Making a profile isn't hard by any means, but its time consuming. And the elite profiles all have a lot of work put into them. Mind you even a GOOD profile doesn't mean its a good roleplayer.

2. F-list roleplayers are picky and pretentious as fuck. I am not including this as a part of 3 because it's so damn infuriating that it deserves it's own full reason on the list. I am not saying people HAVE to roleplay with every one sentence ESL retard who says "hi" but fuck me NO ONE is allowed to roleplay anymore. Or doing it through PM because they fucking hate chat, for good reason mind you as I will explain. There are NUMEROUS factors on what you have to do to get the "elite" accounts to rp with you but they are so many hoops. You have to post multi para posts and/or you have to be the next legendary erotica poster to get them hooked, you have to like their exact fetishes, you have to be a furry rper, you have to have a fucking 10/10 profile, you have to have certain things on your No because its ok to think Ageplay is pedophilia and then use the platform that all the ageplayers use you fucking degenerate hypocrites and this goes DOUBLE for people with shit like Vore, Scat, and Snuff for favorite kinks, you have to have custom kinks. It's fucking retarded. I just want to fap for fuck sake and porn doesn't always have what I want. EVEN ON RULE 34. And this has turned even the mid level roleplayers into picky shits. 1/3

>>713223453
3. No one cares about your desires. I grant you, no one is OWED rp. But you can see the absolute 10/10 100 percentile match to your current desire and get nothing. Or even blocked without warning. It's too much effort for too little return. And I gotta be honest with you, it's a fucking kick in the balls, I talked to many profiles about how much it hurts sometimes. It's worse then being rejected irl, these can have your waifus face on them. And sometimes it reaches hypocritical levels. F-List has turned into a microcosm of irl dating for normalfags. Where only the "chad" profiles get 90% of the rp. And it's fucking stupid.

4. F-Listers don't know what they want. This goes along with being picky and pretentious, since I was a Blue profile I didn't have to worry about rejecting people because I had to work my ass off for every Pink or Dark Blue/Black whatever you wanna call it profile I got. But when I was rejected for pitching ideas THAT MATCH EVERY FUCKING KINK THEY HAVE THEY CAN SAY NO OR GHOST YOU. YOU HAVE INCEST AS A FAVORITE YOU STUPID FUCK. To say nothing of the other various matches. And again, I won't hold it against them their right to say no. I hold it against them their REASON for saying no. Fuck you. Either put what you want exactly on a status or ad or put your profile to busy you dumb fucks. Fuck you for wasting my time.

5. F-List is disgusting. I mean it. I have seen things other furfags would even consider wrong. And have in fact told me they consider wrong. And its on the main ad channels at that. And some of those kinks are must haves for very good very well made very HOT picture/scenario having accounts.

6. F-Listers can expect too much. Its called postpigging. And the profiles are always gross as hell doms. They get rp. Let that sink in. Having to debase myself as some gross snuff dom isn't my idea of a good time.

7. It turns people into product and it gets to you. It's worse then it sounds and corrupts you slowly and unseen. 2/3

I will never not find it funny that the ick on eck faggot of all people not only was the oldest but STILL provides proxies to his deckbeard cultists.

What's your favorite Vidya setting to RP in?

>>713222375
I haven't done much RPG combat with LLMs, but if you want to counter positivity bias couldn't you use lorebook groups for that? With SillyTavern at least you can make inclusion groups where only one entry in the group can be triggered at a time, and give them all a % chance to trigger adding up to 100. You could make a custom d20 from low depth instructions with the group to ensure you get the roll's result every time you say the trigger phrase, like 'roll to attack' or something similar. Or if you want to go one step further, make sure the entries aren't non-recursible and add a toggle-able variable that includes the trigger phrase so you can turn combat rolls on and off with the press of a button.

>>71320456
I spend hours wrangling an LLM with a 3090 and the latest models. It's probably bliss if you're too stupid to notice the things it gets wrong.

>>713223843
Starsector, but I had fun with Elder Scrolls too

>>713223989
this is one reason why i've never RPed with the big corpo models and only use local models. i don't have to worry about censorship or the model being lobotomized in some retarded updated.

>>713223584

8. It is a FURRY WEBSITE. If you can handle that and all the other things and get off the way you want? Power to you. But that shit sticks. And it always will. Its like Chaos Magic, you either are touched by Slannesh or you aren't. THERE IS NO INBETWEEN. As long as you are part of that community in any form, your tied to the furfags. And keep in mind, this shit has stuff on it even other furfags find disgusting. I am not even talking about CP. Some legal fetishes are fucking too far for faggots in fursuits. And your going amongst it for erp. This was ultimately what broke me more then even the lack of fun or arousal. I was surrounded by people even degenerates turn their nose at. I was messaged by one and it broke me when I was feeling down so I quit cold turkey. I won't say the fetish in question but it completely just took all my motivation.

In conclusion anon is a retarded faggot for defending the F-List model. Mind you I am sure there is part of the community that is perfectly functional as much as a bunch of furry fetishists, and ok to them. Stay in your bubble. But F-List is NOT worth trying to get rp from. A few paragraphs on a bot and a deepseek tutorial or even the base A.I sometimes can make something that scratches your itch. We shouldn't go to all this trouble just to sate urges we have naturally. You want a Princess Peach with a mommy complex? Make her. You want a harem? Put the work in and make her. Or hire commission even. You want an adventure bot? Go in with low or mid expectations and make one or find one in the chatbot lists. It's far cleaner and less stressful then F-List.

TLDR: Anon is a stupid fuck and trying to lead others astray because he feels offended at being inferior to a bot to the point even the one sentence esls are jumping ship.

>>713224039
>>713223989
I got fucked over by Spicychat for this exact reason. They censored everything. I went to Janitor.AI and never went back. Chub is good too but they don't post long enough for my tastes but letting you fork/copy bots you like to make custom ones is fucking amazing.

>>713224276
I feel you on those, and you probably hate me and think I'm a retarded troon for this, but futa-on-female is my fetish and it's easy to just be a purple with a big dick and you evade all the pickiness because people know exactly what they're getting into. If someone is dumb enough to ask my IRL gender I will without shame say male. Pickiness can lead into some weird arms race and I think it's easier to just sidestep it entirely with a low effort futa character who nobody expects a bestselling novel from

>>713223843
i tend to do a lot of Zelda because i have personas for Link and Zelda.

>>713205517
its all basic info but yeah gatekeeping is pretty cringe in 2025

>>713224039
What model do you use?

>>713224754
Nah man, I think futa on male is gay. I think when people erp on 4chan its gay. Your just a fetishist. And I totally get it. You either die a hero, or you live long enough to make a Pink profile. Fuck that. I just walked. And I walked at the peak. I took writing lessons to improve my posts just to get rp and I was miserable typing shit that could have been communicated with passion and emotions in 3 to 5 sentences at best. Fuck that shit.

>>713225109
I dunno, I don't think going purple was an 'escape' or anything, I literally just find futa-on-female hotter than male-on-female. I get it though, a lot of pink profiles are basically also only there for futa-on-female too, and so they have to put males into their Yes or Maybe list and list themselves as bisexual, but then they probably just act fake maybe interested and drop out when a blue actually wants to RP with them, because they are only really there for purples in the first place but are too ashamed to just admit that

>>713223843
not strictly vidya but i had a thing for drow and drow villainesses ever since i played hotu like 2 decades ago. also helps that i'm a femdomfag. of course, even though the game teased an evil route with the valsharess, it was cut short. so i have to rely on ai to scratch that itch.

>>713225534
Nah going Pink was the escape. Like that specifically. I should have included it in the list thinking about it.

9. You often have to act off gender, aka make a pink profile, to get any action. I know numerous rpers who did exactly this. I was even tempted to do this a few times. And apparently even Pink profiles can get rejected at times unless they are willing to get really fucked up debasing themselves. And apparently you have to deal with literal simps too. Anon has a cock. Its a fetish. I wouldn't even call it being tranny because your into a fetish around the male gender(this is what futa is at base). Its not the same as switching to a totally different dynamic sexually.

>>713223843
Gensokyo because there is always a new way to create ecchi. Yes, I play a male exclusively.

>>713225534
>a lot of pink profiles are basically also only there for futa-on-female too, and so they have to put males into their Yes or Maybe list and list themselves as bisexual, but then they probably just act fake maybe interested and drop out when a blue actually wants to RP with them, because they are only really there for purples in the first place but are too ashamed to just admit that

See number 4 on the list. You are absolutely fucking right. It's happened to me numerous times.

>>713223843
Pokemon. I just like playing as a trainer. Go in with low expectations though. The bot likes to give you all the wins from the start.

>>713223843
I just throw poor Expie in a cage and torture him as a scientist, over and over again.

>>713226021
Based Janitor.AI user.

>>713224276
I agree with pretty much all your points except the last one. I was neutral on furries in the early days of me roleplaying, and after years and years of roleplaying there and in other places, I'm much less tolerant of furries. So no, the whole 'the abyss stares back' thing isn't true, that just sounds like a personal problem because you saw some furry ass you liked and now are more tolerant of furry asses in general.

Unfortunately, the meta for F-list is basically twofold. One, you get into the cliques by mind-numbingly posting in public rooms constantly, every day, for months. Or two, you use a custom client to auto-post your ads for you, set a decent status and just wait for people to come to you and then give people a shot if they don't seem like a retard, which eliminates a lot of your issues. You still get the odd ghoster or one person who wants that one thing and nothing else, but it's the only real way of using the fucking website without a: spending an ungodly amount of time and effort on it and b: having to prostrate yourself towards a ton of strangers with fully written out ideas that cater to them specifically that YOU had to write out on the small chance that they might be interested.

TL;DR F-list does suck, but sadly I haven't found LLMs (even the big boys) that can really compare to a human behind the wheel. You always inevitably find yourself editing their output constantly and having to steer the AI where you want it to go, and fixing logic/consistency issues, which more or less ruins the whole thing.

>>713225868
>>713225534
As a futa enjoyer, (I really only do futa/futa or futa/female) the futa players who are clearly just blues trying to get more bites are the absolute end of me. Their characters all act like males, they only mention their dick in the writing, and some even literally ask for male pronouns and retarded shit like daddy or stud, it's all so fucking stupid. Finding good futa players literally feels like dumpster diving, I'm so tired of it, probably the main reason I barely use F-list anymore.

But I'm gonna be real, back when I used to play blue characters I got a LOT more action than I do in recent times where I only play females/futas. But maybe it was a different time since this was like, 8 years ago or so.

>>713226171
I am not tolerant of furries but I acknowledge I would rather have them corraled. And only made the point that even they have things that gross them out as an indicator of how FUCKED UP Flist is.

>>713226426
People told me there used to be a more free market on Flist when it was more coomer focused...I am not sure that makes it a better time though. But the place has devolved hard. By the time I got there it was 3 years of work for barely any returns.

>>713226171
I still think LLMs are superior just because of the lack of stress. And they can be good. I admit a good human match is better but that's no longer worth the hassel for many people. Myself included.

>>713226426
You've gotta acknowledge the equal amount of 'pinks who are clearly just blues trying to get more bites' in there too, I feel like. Some are just cum dumps for futas and nothing more.

>>713226908
i just can't be fucked to sit down uninterrupted for 4-8 hour goon seshes of me pumping out posts in 10 minutes or less anymore and Note RPs never last, so bots are preferable to me. i've had a ton of fun just RPing out so many characters and scenarios i could never find play for on f-list.

>>713226970
I don't know about that. Blue players typically don't really want to do submissive stuff or receive. Even if you mean pinks who are exclusively looking for other pinks and then dom/strap them, I think that's a much smaller portion of players.
I cannot stress enough. 90% of futa characters have ZERO interest in actually playing a female. It's insane. Even in 2D/animated porn, futas are almost always just a shoe-in for a male, it's why they always have 2 foot long dicks, are almost always muscular, almost always hyper dominant, all that shit.

>>713227203
Agreed. All the free sites have a combined list of characters to pick from that matches everything you could want. Hell I even made a few bots BASED on F-List profiles for extra spite. Good for inspiration and copy paste is a thing.

>>713227280
At the end of the day, we are a bunch of 'irl blues' complaining that 'f-list pinks' aren't good enough at acting like 'irl pinks'. It's all rather pathetic. Best to just find some people you like and stick with them, 95% of RPers are trash and futas are no exception

Can someone post a good basic character card/template or something. I have no idea where to start.

>>713227367
yeah almost all my personas for ST are based on my f-list characters.

>>713227829
for a persona to play as, or characters to RP with? for a persona you mostly want details the bot can use. a full physical description, some details about what your character does for a living is a good start.

>>713225001
Currently, Magistral. But I've tried everything in my range.

>>713227829
literally just write a description of a character in normal text

>>713227829
Just make a quick template
name
appearance
background
traits

Shit like that. If you want character cards, characterhub has a lot. You can get some ideas from there.

>>713227957
>>713227998
ok but how do you start this? just tell the bot
>act like the following character
?

>>713228082
Just write a third-person perspective description to start the story off, it will mimic your starting style and continue the scene.

*Anon was being a faggot in the local museum, when he noticed a woman with a huge cock.* "Hello, miss, I see you have an enormous penis." *Anon said, licking his lips.*

>>713228082
character cards made for sillytavern have that information already there. check out chub.ai or characterhub.

>>713227829
>>713227998
>>713228082
Seconding Chub. You can also get a good idea of how to make characters from that. Here is another tool I used as a newbie and even use today for harem bots.

https://janitorai.com/characters/64bd7f7f-f4ad-450a-9c9c-8b535db64eef_character-automatic-bot-creator-v-3-assistant

One thing though, I highly recommend you look up a Deepseek tutorial and get that done before you try. Janitorai's base one is alright but if you want more in character stuff in general Deepseek can carry a lot. It's like spices and herbs, they don't necessarily make a delicious meal but they help a LOT.

Here is one for Personas if your having a hard time describing a canon you wanna play as.

https://janitorai.com/characters/e2b8a783-6b49-4748-877b-9fec3963cb61_character-persona-ai-maker-pam

Keep in mind those these are tools. You need to practice making your own bots. Start from scratch and see what works and what doesn't. And there is no shame in liking an existing bot and trying to modify it. Chub is EXCELLENT for that since they make all descriptions public. And remember you CAN make bots private for your use only.

>>713203712 (OP)
Can AI run a RPG perfectly?

>>713229273
not yet, maybe in a couple of years it'll be easier.

>>713229273
no

>>713229273
No. But you can still get enjoyment from it if you go in with low expectations.

>>713227667
Yeah but the search is a grind. People just want to fap.

>>713228082
You're overthinking it
For the character card, just write 3-4 paragraphs summarizing everything important about the character in natural language. Appearance, personality, profession, age, interests, sexual orientation, goals, etc.
Then for the first post, set the scene you want your RP to start with using the perspective that matches how you will play your character
If you have a specific fetish that needs some context, like vore, monster girls, giantess/size, or some NWO thing, make a few entries describing how it works in the lore tab
For the character you play, you don't need as much information, just a physical description and anything else that the AI character is assumed to know about you
A strong model like DeepSeek R1 will be able to do a lot with just this stuff and a few well-written responses
Pic related is an example of a bitchy e-girl I made for my niche interest of combining size/vore with stuffing/BBW/feederism

>>713229273
Read >>713210485
And >>713213989

>>713226021

>>713229560
how'd you get deepseek to stop outputting its thoughts in the middle of a conversation?

>>713231995
as far as I can tell, Sillytavern filters out the "thinking" output of reasoning models
I use Deepseek through featherless.ai with the text completion preset for featherless
With a different back end it might behave differently

I just use Claude since I don't want chink shit on my computer. And I'm not a degenerate lolifag so filtering isn't that big of an issue for me either.