Holy kino

what part did you like the most?
Backtracking through empty rooms, or constantly fighting bats, bugs and snails?
My favorite part was change-weapon-shoot-door-navigate-corridor-change-weapon-shoot-door, but also scanning the grime and moss on every fucking wall was a blast, loved that part

>>713225573 (OP)
Torvus Bog... home...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo_09MsIVno

>>713225751
Mine was boost guardian

>>713225751
From your post its clear that you have never played Metroid Prime 2: Echoes

>>713226202
I fucking wish, I even played that piece of shit of Prime 1 to completion.

Putting ammo counts on the new bam weapons was stupid. Imagine if the wave and plasma beams had ammo counts in Metroid Prime 1.

For a game that is hailed by some as "The Greatest of All Time" and is a Nintendo exclusive, I'm surprised it isn't more expensive.

>>713226646
Why would it be expensive when the switch remaster exists?

>>713226748
i forgot about it

>>713226646
Every time I shit on this game on this board, there is surprisingly little pushback.
Barely anyone here defends it.

>play the prime games in reverse order since I didnt own a gamecube
>loved prime 3
>only ever heard people talk shit about prime 2 and the ammo gimmick
>skip it and play prime 1
>its boring as fuck so I drop midway
>play prime 2
>its fucking amazing and becomes my favorite
>go back to finish prime 1
>realize everything I disliked in prime 1 is fixed in prime 2
>also realize prime 3 kinda sucks but I still loved it
overall 2 > 3 = 1

>>713226884
That's because they know you're full of shit and won't engage with you seriously.

>temple grounds music
>under water temple music
>sanctuary fortress kino

>>713226506
If you don't like it then wtf are doing here you retarded fag?

the other beams should not have had ammo

>>713227481
>hating prime 3

>>713227912
3 was shit.

it threw out everything that makes metroid well... metroid

the first thing you do is talk to NPC's and shit and then they made it so beams stack

>>713228039
>it threw out everything that makes metroid well... metroid
That was fusion and then other M again. Prime 3 still has a semblance of exploration even if it's worse than prime 1/2 and a bunch of cool new upgrades

Prime 2 felt too formulaic and quest-givey, and the sky temple keys are way more annoying than chozo artifacts since you have to wait until you get the dark visor before you can even start collecting the things
I still like it, but Prime 1 is unquestionably better
Also the Dark Suit is fucking ugly as shit and the Phazon Suit is superior in every way

2 had kino sounds like collecting a key

>>713227912
I still like it tho?

>the final dark samus fight with the timer
>the alpha blogg fight

I just could not get the timing and had to try over and over

>>713228638
alpha blogg is literally bugged lol

>>713228039
>threw out everything that makes metroid well... metroid
>they made it so beams stack
Kill yourself, retard.

theres no sense of powering up in prime games.

like yea theres a sense of mobility convenience but not actually feeling more powerful.

in prime 2 by the time you get the final beam the game is pretty much over and there isnt much to do

>>713229032
are you retarded? The black hole is one of the most OP weapons in the series

>>713229138
its literally pointless just like every beam combo in metroid prime 1 and 2.

uses more ammo than its damage output is worth

>>713229032
there absolutely is, plasma beam and annihilator beam in 1/2 and the super missile combos are big power boosts. Even the screw attack in 2 is a great combat option especially on hard mode. Prime 3 is the only one that suffers from this because the base hyper mode charge attack is way too good

>>713229201
play on hard mode, the beam combos, especially the black hole and ice beam ones, are worth it. Only one that sucks dick is the flamethrower

>>713229240
i've replayed prime games several times and never bothered with other beams unless needed and beat the games without any issues each time.

the only time I use other beams beam is to get rid of an annoyance blocking me.

>play on hard mode
have and its more or less the same

>>713228039
>the first thing you do is talk to NPC's
You do that is Prime 2 as well but no one bitches about it there
>and then they made it so beams stack
Based retard

>>713229384
you don't "need" anything beyond the basic blaster shot for most enemies, that's not the point. I don't see how this is different from the 2D games you separated

Prime 2 is the worst of the 3 and its not because of backtracking. People that claim to like 2 over 1, which is fucking absurd, are contrarian try hards. The same type that think New Vegas is better than 3 or KOTR2 is better than the first. Just flat out pretentious horrid taste.

I like Prime 2 the most. The level design is much better than the original game, with a shortcut to and from each area, and regions being discrete Zelda like templedungeons.

>>713229384
>>713229435
There's like two to three bosses in the trilogy that really threaten the player unless you're going for a tankless run. Even then, I think the combat could be improved if they made everything just a bit more threatening.

>>713229407
>You do that is Prime 2 as well but no one bitches about it there
No, the first thing you do is explore a tutorial area and soak in the ambiance and aftermath of the doomed soldiers you were originally here to save. Then you get some exposition and then it's right back to the game.

I like Corruption, but opening is very sedate. It also does the thing a lot of enthusiasts dislike, which is made it more "Halo," by showering you in Human NPCs and tech. Which was in Echoes too, but of course only in the one intro area and the rest was the weird world of the moth people.

Corruption also has mostly non-human worlds, of course, but the Federation increasingly coming off like "generic human space military" was a let down.

>>713229472

Best boss fight.

>>713226141
for me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA0svtSeG0I

>>713225573 (OP)
I was just thinking it was high time I got around to these games. Nice bonus motivation see this.

I'm pretty set on 1>2>3 but MP2 really is special

>>713241119
>1>2>3
nice to see someone else also has that rating

>>713225573 (OP)
>play on wii
>turn off music
Kino experience

>"Finally Samus, I will have my REVE-"
>slightly charged beam
>"AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE"

>>713226192
I don't understand how people got filtered hard enough by the boost guardian for it to become a meme, the arena literally drops a bunch of health for you.

>>713228287
I used to think the dark suit was goofy as hell but now I kind of like it and think it's more interesting than the i-lightsuit pro at the very least.

>>713241721
I remember thinking he was "a hard boss," but not ball bustingly hard. Spider guardian kicked my ass more as a kid.

>>713228287
I thought the same when I was 12 but the phazon suit is just a recolor of the gravity suit, which is a recolor of the varia suit.
Dark suit has some character at least.

>>713243072
I appreciate the effort but it's just such an ugly brown colour, and you have it for most of the game to boot. It's like the Varia Suit in Fusion

>>713243256
looks steampunk
hard to dislike

Holy fuck Dark Pirate Commandos fucking suck ass. Who's idea was it to make "Chozo Ghosts but with more health and more i-frames"

>>713245140
The dark ones aren't that bad because you can instakill them by empowering the light orbs/crystals with the light beam or annihilator beam like any other Ing. It's the non-corrupted ones that piss me off.

I beat prime 2 twice.

It's cool, but it's not good.

Mothe.

>>713236037
>weak to the weapon you get by beating it
what did they mean by this

>>713245738
these are friend

>>713226141
comfy

MP2 is comfy

>>713245738
I liked their voice. It actually sounds otherworldly

Prime 3 had the best boss music

>>713245738
Snug bug.

>>713225573 (OP)
Never played the Primes, but was considering purchasing the Switch remasters. How are they? I've played and enjoyed Super Metroid, Fusion, and Dread.

>>713250437
Rundas’ theme is grade A, absolutely fantastic

>>713250545
There's only a remaster for the first game but all three are very good. Bit of a different vibe than 2D metroid. They're a lot slower and focus more on immersion, but still scratch that metroid exploration itch

>>713250545
Prime 1 is very good, but also overrated. It's a translation of Super Metroid into 3D, which mostly works, except they overlooked so many of Super Metroid's powers and suit upgrades being vertical-movement upgrades, which make exploring faster paced as the game progresses (culminating in the Space Jump which lets you fly). Metroid Prime is laid out mostly horizontally, and you don't get any significant upgrades that make moving through the areas faster.
So where Super Metroid lets you explore the map exponentially faster as you get more and more upgrades, you're exploring Metroid Prime in the end game mostly at the same pace as you do at the start. On top of this it adds an endgame fetch quest which exists solely to pad out the playtime.
Prime 1 was called "the Citizen Kane of gaming" and rated extremely highly by journalists at the time, which complicates people thinking about it objectively.
It's a solid 7 or 8/10.

I am very biased towards Prime 2, but it's a dramatic improvement. Gameplay-wise there are tons of small improvements to the controls stuff that's barely noticeable but makes the experience better, there are a bunch of new abilities that are interesting to use and which lean into the Prime formula's strengths as a 3D game series, the map is better laid out for traversal in the end game with more interconnection between each area, it's the most difficult of the Prime games, creative boss fights: and to top it all off it has some of the most unique and rich art direction ever made. Full stop.
People tend not to notice how exquisite the art is, but that's a problem of its subtlety. If you're an artist you'll be more likely to get it.
9 or 10/10, but I am biased.

Prime 3 is almost as good as Prime 2, except it's the easiest of the Prime games, very casualized, had Wii motion controls which were divisive, and was similar to Fusion in terms of having lots of interruptions from quest giver NPCs.
Very underrated though. And over hated.

>>713252132
2/2

Ran up against the character limit
Prime 3 is casualized, and draws comparisons to Halo which was big at the time because of the heavy Feddy presence, it's criticized for not being lonely like a Metroid game should be, but if you look at it as it is, it's a great game, even if it's easy.
Again the art is incredible and underrated. Not quite as bold or thematically unified as Prime 2, but underrated. I don't care what detractors might say, being able to board Samus' gunship and use it to fly between different planets is cool as hell.
If Prime 1 is mostly a proof of concept, Prime 3 is the most polished version of that concept.
Too easy, too handholdy, but it IS the culmination of the lessons Retro learned with Prime 1 and 2, and it's great simply for that reason.
7 or 8 out of 10. I slightly prefer it to Prime 1.

>>713226646
It's not as good as people say, but it's not bad. Biggest gripe I have with the first game is that it may as well be a walking sim for the majority of its runtime. Echoes fixed that a bit.

As for the low value of Prime, Echoes, and Corruption, I think that has more to do with the popularity of Trilogy than anything else.

>>713228638
>the final Dark Samus fight
I was big mad during my first run. Couldn't figure out how to get the phazon gimmick to work, so I had to refight the final boss. I still think that's a bit cheap.

>>713225573 (OP)
Am I weird for finding Samus more attractive with the power suits on than without?

>>713226646
because super is superior to prime in every conceivable way and only retarded zoomers like prime

>>713225573 (OP)
aAll 3 of these games are fucking 10/10. I bought a switch 2 for 4: beyond

>prime 1
>that slog to get to the phazon mines just to get to a part with invisible platforms
>and have to go all the way out to get xray visor
>then all the way through to get to that part again

This game has cool vibe. https://youtu.be/5xVzh9WA158

Zero Mission and Prime 2 were my 1st Metroid games back in the day. I went back to play the other games after playing them.

>>713254343
>I bought a switch 2 for 4: beyond
Prime 4 is on Switch 1 as well so you didnt need to get a Switch 2 for it

>>713253561
Wait, Super Metroid is rare?
I have a complete one, manual, box and everything.
Or this price isn't that high for SNES games, I am not a collector.

Sex with balls

>>713255723
Nothing new. You get dead eyed stares and anger in response to pointing out Twilight Princess was a GameCube game and BoTW was a WiiU game. People always want the new thing, even if the new thing plays just as well on the old thing.

>>713255723
Presumably he wanted the better version of the game

>>713252132
>On top of this it adds an endgame fetch quest which exists solely to pad out the playtime.
Lets be fair here all three prime games have this, and in terms of tediousness it goes 2 > 1 > 3

>>713256950
nta
Sky temple keys are more tedious if you just want to complete the game fast because you can collect fewer of them before getting all your powerups compared to chozo artifacts, but the majority of them are in new locations in the dark world that you couldn't explore safely before getting the light suit, so it feels less like retreading ground than the chozo artifacts. The world design is also a lot better for fast travelling, and you have Screw Attack to cut out large chunks of walking.

I couldn't even finish Prime 1. I thought it sucked. It's a shame because I love 2D Metroids.

>>713259585
Having so many locked behind the light suit is the worst part for me. In Prime 1 you can start collecting these things as early as getting missiles, and you can get a lot just along the way as you play the game, and it's pretty unlikely that you'll have none before they become mandatory.
In Prime 2 you can't even start until you get the dark visor which is ~2/3 into the game, then 5/9 of them require the last item you get in the game. The light world is very nicely connected which is true, but that point is entirely moot when you then always have the extra step of going in and out of dark world portals to get the key. It's a way bigger pace breaker

>>713256831
I think its 60fps on the Switch 1 as well

>>713256573
Well in TPs case it actually came out 1 month earlier on the Wii than it did on Gamecube so it made sense to get a Wii to play it day 1 if you were a big Zelda fan especially as the Wii was cheap as fuck anyways.

>>713261635
That's fair, but it's also hard to argue that it was originally targeted for Wii when they had to mirror the entire game. Likewise, I don't see how someone can argue that BoTW was a Switch game when Link uses a fucking WiiU gamepad. They even went out of their way to make the tablet in ToTK look more like a Switch to demonstrate the fact that it was designed for the console.

Not that any of this really matters.