ffxiv obviously did the spectacle well, but what did it do wrong? what prevented the kino fight scenes from having proper impact?

nothing since you're still talking about it 2 years later

I liked it
Interactive anime like Asura's Wrath

X is 10
V is 5
I is 1
They're written from the highest denominator to lowest
If you see a lower one behind a higher one, like in the case of IV, it subtracts the bigger one, resulting in 4
So to make 16, it's XVI

>>713233403 (OP)
why are you talking about FFXIV using a pic of FFXVI

>>713233403 (OP)
>no unique weapon style or combat style like dmc.
>pacing is garbage
>yoshida

>>713234225
Odin is kind of like a unique weapon style, sorta.

how is this dumb faggot still spamming low effort threads

>>713233403 (OP)
so i installed ff14 to socialize and maybe find a gf. the gameplay itself is a bit boring since i'm still grinding the story quests but at least the story itself is starting to get interesting.

the social aspect on the other hand... first of all i have to exert some serious effort not to shit post too much or start random arguments in the newbie global chat. which doesn't always work out. 4channel really ruined my brain. thanks rapeape. but other than that i've had lots of positive encounters when starting random conversations with people around me. the only problem is i get flustered way too quickly when i even get a wiff of a female writing style. this might prove to be a problem in the future as i have to battle between my desire to start shit for no reason and running away with red cheeks.

how were your recent mmo experiences?

>>713233403 (OP)
Story was kinda lame, characters were wasted or underdeveloped sadly, gameplay was very repetitive and shallow and really stretched out too long as well, would've benefited from multiple playable characters. It had a potential but it fumbled pretty much every aspect of the game except big boss fights. And even then only the spectacle part.

ffxi raids
>flopped
cosmic exploration
>flopped
crescent isle
>flopped
post dt msq
>flopped

It's officially over . thread is raped.

>>713233403 (OP)
>what prevented the kino fight scenes from having proper impact?
Probably the hours FFXIV style questing in between those spectacle fights. Of all the things for XVI to borrow from XIV, why would they think anyone wants the quest design and conversation animations?

>>713233403 (OP)
Corridor > mob > corridor > boss (action cutscene)
Linear design is LAZY and no matter how realistic your graphics are, gameplay will always be king.
Shit like snoy movieslop and modern FF shouldn't exist.

>person indicates they don't think the argument is being made with the intent of discussion
>is immediately attacked for words used in their statement

>>713233403 (OP)
It'll be an underrated masterpiece like FFXIII and FFXII and FFXI and FFX in like 5 years

>>713233403 (OP)
the really long boring bits in between the big cinematic fight scenes

>>713239563
>FFXIII
Dogshit
>FFXII
Underrated gem
>FFXI
Great
>FFX
Overrated, cringy, linear piece of shit

>>713239563
>FFXIII
a bad game no one pretends to like
>FFXII
a bad game some people pretend to like
>FFXI
an ancient janky MMO that some people have tricked themselves into thinking they liked
>FFX
an overrated game a lot of people think they like

>>713239563
None of those games are underrated masteripieces. XIII is trash and widely hated, X is great and highly regarded, XI and XII are mid just like XVI. All of these are accurately rated.

>>713233403 (OP)
>Damage sponge enemies
>Boring combat
>Boring story
>Boring characters
>Boring world with little fantasy
7 Remake and Rebirth are 1000 times better than this, even Crisis Core Reunion is more fun and has better combat

>>713233403 (OP)
Clive attacks way too fast with nonsense anime moves that have no impact while the insane particle effect vomit covers the screen making it look really shitty.

>>713240772
I found it funny that I hated Clive in Tekken for all the bullshit effects he had on the screen but after playing 16 I realize they were just being faithful to the source which also has way too much bullshit effects on everything.

>>713233403 (OP)
The pacing was terrible
>Cut Dhalimil
>Cut Mid's fetch quests
Swap them with Joshua, Jill and Torgal's personal side-quests. Put effort into items, instead of (x makes you do 10% more damage with ability) have them affect the core gameplay from Eikons.
No retardedly ambiguous ending, shit or get off the pot

>>713233403 (OP)
quest design
cant decide if its an rpg or CAG
no elemental dmg

>>713233403 (OP)
No challenge = no fun

>>713233403 (OP)
Shit writing

>>713233403 (OP)
It was a mistake to cater to the lowest common denominator
FF has never been a particularly difficult franchise but at least it had some pain points added into its system (Things like poison and other status effects) But FFXVI dilutes the formula so much that the combat/gameplay barely changes once you are done with the demo.
Not to mention the swath of perfunctory, terribly designed quests, the laborious and useless "crafting" system, underutilized or plainly dropped plot points and characters, the lack of a party system, etc.
It has good qualities, and good moments. But the game has a lot dragging it down.
Would still say it's a solid 7/10 tho.

>>713233403 (OP)
>>713237736
>>713245740
>>713246329
How many times are you going to make this thread dude, move on

>>713246375
Try reddit if you only want positive vibes when discussing FF dying in real time

>>713246445
>Jannies remove actual videogame threads
>Meanwhile your repetitive samefagging mysery porn threads are allowed
Kys

>>713233403 (OP)
Bad story pacing and terrible side content held it back and the combat is mmo tier which needed improvement, still a solid game tho

>>713233403 (OP)
I liked it but it needed a playable party

>>713246539
>NO STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT YTOSHIDA -SAMA
Sorry shitter, no one cares about one of dozens Bingtendo threads dying for a chance to shit on a faggot who's single-handedly killing FF with his massive ego.

>>713246917
I didn't even talk about your boyfriend retard
>Nintendo
At least those talk about more things than you talking about faggot boyfriend
Tell me how many hours do you have in ff14 MMOtroon?

>>713246917
>Sakaguchi killed FF
>Nomura killed FF
>Toriyama killed FF
>Yoship killed FF
Nigga you had TWENTY years to move on, FF hasn't been good since X

>>713247034
How the fuck can a dead ip have so many threads.
It's like some kind of toxic relationship
>>713246958
This dude even came to some Breath of Fire thread and starting talking about yoshidda out of nowhere, I even know his fucking birthday, since he looks gay I wouldn't be surprised if this anon is some bitter ex boyfriend.

>>713246958
>MUH BINGTENDO
BING BING WAHOO out of this thread, manchild

>>713247034
>X
>good

>>713239563
>X
>underrated masterpiece
fuck you on about, it's widely regarded as one of the best in the franchise

>>713233403 (OP)
slop flop

>>713236616
Too little, too late. There's also Leviathan but it also comes in too late.

>>713233403 (OP)
>gear upgrades are just + to their values
>in a single player game with one main character
Lazy as fuck

>>713233403 (OP)
>but what did it do wrong
Everything, because Yoshit'n'Piss got woke

>>713250175
At least it was the most inoffensive version of gay, but what I found hilarious was I think it was PAX that had an interview with some of the VAs. And the Dion VA was like "can I give a shout out for this game having a prominent queer character?" and it was like scattered applause.

>>713251060
>two faggots sucking on camera
>inoffensive version of gay
Inoffensive version of gay is a sassy flaming homo from 90s comedy flicks, two cocksuckers longingly staring into each others eyes is pure faggotry.

>>713233403 (OP)
If the game was turnbased where you controlled a party of characters instead of a singular player-character.
Then the game would have had an incentive to keep more of its characters alive so that they could actually be part of your party as you played the game.
And if your party had a wider cast of characters travelling with you, then exploration of the world would have been richer as you'd have a wider cast to react the events and corners of the world that you'd find. And the devs would be incentivized to progress multiple character stories which would pretty naturally fill the explorable world with more meaningful content.

It's kind of fascinating how singular design decisions can cascade to have awful consequences. I really have no idea why they insist on making Final Fantasy action games where you have a designated protagonist that you control in and out of battle. Instead of making Final Fantasy actually play like Final Fantasy, where you control a larger party of characters instead of a singular player character, and where you have a larger explorable world.