Thread 713235089

Anytime someone says they don't like this game I assume they are low IQ.
>It's just open world slop
>I need to collect weapons because... I just do!
>The dungeons are short
>I literally need Nintendo to make the same game forever or I will die
>Muh Ubisoft
Breath of the Wild is a revolutionary game design that has yet to be recreated. Not even Tears of the Kingdom, which many claim is a simple DLC to this game, can come close to the understated genius of Breath of the Wild. If you don't get it then I'm sorry but you probably never will.

>>713235089 (OP)
>that has yet to be recreated
Genshin mogs this shit

>>713235089 (OP)
>Breath of the Wild is a revolutionary game design that has yet to be recreated
Nigga it's Ubishit towers open world slop, with the same copy-pasted bokoblin camps and huge swathes of nothingness. You finally get to a shrine and it's the puzzle takes about as long as the loading screen and transitions.

>>713235089 (OP)
The only real thing to find in the world are the shrines which are all boring copy pasted slop with the same assets

>>713235089 (OP)
>I need to collect weapons because... I just do!
You unironically need to do this though

>>713235197
>>713235317
>>713235381
Here are some examples of low IQ anons failing to realize the subtle differences in design which set this game apart.

>>713235490
Another low IQ take. Keep them coming.

Can you explain what makes this game unique or amazing?

>>713235507
Next time stick to chatGPT, you're not even saying anything

>>713235595
it's the first Nintendo game without design or gameplay
that's pretty unique and amazing

>>713235595
You wouldn't understand.

>>713235603
This low IQ anon can't even comprehend writing a single paragraph without help. How could a mind like this really appreciate the brilliance of Breath of the Wild?

>>713235743
Still waiting for a rebuttal.

>>713235197
>>713235317
>>713235381
Incels

>>713235089 (OP)
OoTsnoys are literal animals. Look at the archives for how often they make anti-BoTW seething threads.

>>713235089 (OP)
>Anytime someone says they don't like this game I assume they are low IQ.
BASED

>>713235089 (OP)
If you can't see past the shtick 5 or so hours in, you are stupid. This shit killed Zelda, which has always relied on a strong sense of progression and content, not copy pasted time wasters thrown in to try and hide how empty and worthless the open world is. It is a game for people who like literal walking sims and it's sad how many are too dumb to realize they're playing a walking sim.

>>713235089 (OP)
>I need to collect weapons because... I just do!
The core gameplay and main interaction with the game is about fighting the enemies using weapons. The weapons break. This means that you need more weapons. The enemies get tankier faster than the weapons get better. This means that you need more weapons.
Either you did not play the game or you just wandered around for a few hours, sneaking around or running away from every enemy.

>>713238357
>OoT
>snoys
>OOT
>A Nintendo game
>Sony fanboys

>Nintendo adapts to modern trends
>"Nintendo has revolutionized gaming!"
Cult.

>>713235089 (OP)
>Anytime someone says they like this game I assume they are low IQ.

>>713235089 (OP)
>Anytime someone says they don't like this game I assume they are low IQ.

It's usually either low IQ or they're demented Nintendo haters. These traits go hand in hand.

>>713235089 (OP)
Thats funny. Whenever someone says they don't like this game I assume they are high IQ.

>>713235089 (OP)
It's a trademark sign of ADHD people to seek instant gratification and only prioritize combat and tangible benefits of collectibles / tasks in games. They have no understanding of any kind of slow-burn material in any media.
They find it difficult to process any kind immersive experience and sense of adventure that everyone else takes from something like BotW.

For me it's the fact the mentally ill cannot let go of OOT dungeons. To them, OOT dungeons are like the holy grail of game design despite being so tired and overdone that they themselves know the ins and outs of them, leaving the whole concept dreadfully predictable and formulaic.

>>713241334
How did you get 28 hearts, steel lizal bow, and Hylian shield, if not through combat and engaging with the game in general?

>>713241892
>How did you get 28 hearts, steel lizal bow, and Hylian shield, if not through combat and engaging with the game in general?

You just proved his point.

>>713241334
It's funny when tendies were the ones shitting on open world and crafting before

>>713242352
>Hurr, look at these retards criticising the game using their experience of actually playing the game and experiencing its gameplay, story, etc., instead of just wandering around for a few hours
>Your screenshot shows that you must also have engaged with the game
>Exactly!

>>713242525
Low IQ indeed.

>>713242575
I know you are. You clearly have no argument.

>>713240727
snoy here. ocarina of time is one of the greatest games ever. its the switch era that nintendo started really making awful games like animal crossing new horizons, mario odyssey, and brap of the wild

>>713240727
OoTfags have been snoys since BoTW's release mindbroke them and the seethe in this thread only proves it

>>713242635
I forgot how bad Odyssey was.

>>713242648
You get filtered by Hinoxes.

>>713242467
It's because BOTW is the first open world game they played. "It's okay when Nintendo does it".

>>713242648
Annnd case in point >>713242635

>>713242628
You don't understand the original argument.

You're like someone who marvels over a person's suntan when they come back from vacation rather than the experience they had there.

Low IQ it is.

>>713235089 (OP)
It's a placeholder game because they took too long to develop it and risked sunsetting the Wii U without a new Zelda game, which would be a very bad look if they were trying to revive their brand.
It never coherently builds towards anything, you just play unrelated challenges until you get bored.
The game is at its most coherent during the tutorial, during self-contained challenges (like Eventide or Trial of the Sword) and Hyrule Castle, but everything else is just a mess.
It's fun, but only in the way that most post-2011 games are fun.

>>713235089 (OP)
fortnite mogs the shit out of every nintodler games
every western gamey games like moba rts fps require higher iq than all nintodler games combined
stick to your single player game kid

>>713243594
>>713243719
Low IQ

>>713243594
>It never coherently builds towards anything, you just play unrelated challenges until you get bored

The game gives you a single quest: Save The Princess.

And then the entire game is about you figuring out how to do this all on your own. You are let loose in a massive dynamic, systemic open world and have to overcome adversity using your own wits and resources. Every single thing you do contributes to your main quest.

Low IQ plebs got baffled because the game wasn't holding their hand and they couldn't feel any sense of progression without being guided down a corridor of linear checkpoints.

>>713242971
>It's about the journey, not the destination, chud!
Except I can talk at length about the journey and the fact that it sucked because I actually played the game and paid attention. Hyrule is an empty post-apocalyptic wasteland, Zelda is a retard, and everyone tells Link to hurry up and do his job. Meanwhile, you get filtered by Hinoxes.

Sadly I don't think Nintendo will ever make a proper sequel to it. This was like the one time the company showed any kind of ambition, and it was because of the Wii U failure. Now that the Switch line is succeeding, all the games coming out feel cheap.

>>713245035
>Every single thing you do contributes to your main quest.
To the game's credit, this much is true. You're still exaggerating how much that is because Calamity Ganon is a joke, which is why they made TOTK Ganondorf more challenging.

>>713241334
I love that this guys screenshot is a version of the game that's modded to not look like dogshit

>>713235089 (OP)
It's actually sad to think how bad nu-zelda has become

>>713235089 (OP)
Why call it Zelda?

>>713235507
Such as?

>>713235089 (OP)
tendies be like yoo this gameplay is fire

>>713235089 (OP)
Mogged by Elden ring, bg3 and genshin impact

>>713242635
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>713245035
>massive dynamic, systemic open world
Lol no, every part of the open world is completely isolated, to the point that shrines are literally on another dimension

> have to overcome adversity using your own wits and resources
That's the definition of game, what makes botw unique ?

>>713235089 (OP)
i hope one day you use something other than your slavebox to play videogames

>>713246063
>I love that this guys screenshot is a version of the game that's modded to not look like dogshit

It's the Switch 2 version lol, best version of the game is exclusive to Switch 2 chads.

>>713246152
Fake

>>713246328
Emulator glitch

It's just sad at this point.

>>713246908
So as soon as Nintendo releases a slightly more powerful potato that allows for better graphics, graphics do matter?

>>713246949
No, he's just pressing the button with a pause after each one to just use the slow basic two-handed attack repeatedly. You didn't play the game.

if I wanted a good action combat game id play something else, if I wanted a good open world game id play something else, if I wanted a visually impressive game id play something else, if I wanted a good puzzle game id play something else, if I wanted a good zelda game id play something else.

>>713245035
The moment to moment gameplay is systemic, the actual world is small, often scripted chunks, hence why I stated that the game's best parts are the ones that basically encapsulate the entire moment to moment gameplay like the tutorial, eventide island or hyrule castle.
The game's single quest is "play until you get bored", there is nothing really demanding that you figure out how to save the princess.

>>713247248
>The game's single quest is "play until you get bored",

Never happened to me. Still playing it now almost a decade later.

>>713245035
How many ways are there to get into Gerudo Town? Combat? Stealth? Earning their respect? No, you just buy some crap equipment and make Link wear it to satisfy a simple map script.

>>713235089 (OP)
TOTK being less interesting than BOTW led me to think that Nintendo themselves don't understand what makes this one so great.

>>713247783
It was the death of Iwata. He would've greenlit an actual sequel with a new world. Everything went cheap as fuck with Doug Bowser.

This game is good, I liked it a lot. I was disappointed that the sequel looked so similar and the crafting didn't appeal to me at all. I've never had any inclination to play tears of the kingdom despite having played all other main line Zelda games.

>>713247460
>How many ways are there to get into Gerudo Town? Combat? Stealth? Earning their respect? No, you just buy some crap equipment and make Link wear it to satisfy a simple map script.

That's a story driven main quest

>BotW has no content!
>apart from all the content!

You don't even need to go to Gerudo Town. You can just turn around and walk away. The game won't stop you or punish you.

You can play the whole game and never even visit the desert.

Both BotW and TotK are amazing

>>713246063
It looks dogshit though, I found it weird looking because it has aliasing lol.

>>713247783
Openworld fags just really fucking love large empty spaces with the same 3 things to do over and over. That sort of aesthetic thinking is basically what propelled Bethesda to greatness.

>>713235089 (OP)
I liked it but the writing was embarassingly bad. They really should have put more effort into that, or not had anything at all. Almost anything would have been better

>>713235197
This desu. BOTW was like a tech demo and Genshin made a game out of it.

>>713249843
kek what writing?
I don't really understand why people shit on TotK for moving past BotW's attempt at writing something, nothing of value was lost in it, and there's still enough little nods to BotW for it to be fun.
I won't forgive Age of Calamity for not giving us the OBJECTIVE: SURVIVE mission it deserved.

>>713249532
The other regions have other ways to enter. Zora's Domain even has different cutscenes depending on where you first meet Prince Sidon. Even OOT (a N64 game) had more options for entering the Gerudo's Fortress than BOTW does. Of course you don't need to do any of the content other than getting some good equipment and going to the castle, but it's still lazy of the developers.

>>713235381
Erm... sweatie its actually good when the new game is a direct copy/paste of the previous game with slight differences... you aren't a heckin racist chud that hates Nintendo right?

>>713235089 (OP)
It's OK that you like Ubisoft collectathons. I don't like them because it bloats the game. It's the entire game too so you can't even ignore the collectibles and focus on dungeons.

>>713250016
>Erm... sweatie
>... you aren't a heckin racist chud that hates Nintendo right?
please just go back

>>713249971
The writing was retarded even by Zelda standards.

>>713249971
totk was even worse somehow, which was crazy because the bar was already on the floor

>>713250052
I feel like I can hardly call BotW's writing bad, it's just so fucking empty. But I'd describe the entirety of BotW that way.

>>713235089 (OP)
iirc the gameplay lead said he was inspired by the open world of Red Dead Redemption, but I think BotW had something different and special with it's climbing and flying mechanics, which allowed you to traverse anything. It also gave the stamina upgrade system meaning and depth: you couldn't climb any mountain right off the bat, you had to grind and improve your stamina through shrines or gear.

My only complaint with BotW is no deep or meaningful boat/ocean sections. There are only two islands in the game of any significance, both of which were pretty small.

>>713250051
>you

>>713250178
>It also gave the stamina upgrade system
Nope. Skyward Sword did it first
>you couldn't climb any mountain
for what purpose was there to climbing any mountain other than guffawing at it?

>>713249921
>BOTW was like a tech demo and Genshin made a game out of it.

Genshin has absolutely NONE of the chemistry engine or interactive systemic world.

You know, the actual complex part of game design which requires talent.

>>713249995
>it's still lazy of the developers.

How is it lazy? You are just making shit up.

>>713250576
I was saying the climbing mechanic in BotW, which RDR did not have, was given additional depth by having a stamina system. I was not arguing or debating it's use in other Zelda games
>for what purpose was there to climbing any mountain other than guffawing at it?
Rare items/enemies, shrines , mini bosses, and the enjoyment that comes with general exploration into parts previously unknown.

>>713235089 (OP)
>>The dungeons are short
What makes you dismiss this one

>>713250576
No, no. It made the shitty stamina system better because of a tacked on collectathon. Also removed the dungeons but no one cares about the dungeons in Zelda games of course. Don't want daddy Aonuma to look bad. No sir!

>>713250576
>what purpose was there to climbing any mountain

Holy fuck. OP was right. Hater are low IQ retards.

>>713246995
I'm 90% sure this dude is just lying, It looks exactly a version of the game with clarity mods to remove the awful dust effects that obscure even things right next to the camera

>>713251040
>Hater are low IQ retards
goodmorning sametranny saar

>>713250947
>Also removed the dungeons

Eh?

>>713250761
What chemistry engine are you talking about? Genshin has elemental reactions which were awesome, I loved how you could freeze water to walk on it. Way less clunky than what BOTW did.

>>713251049
It is

The Switch 2 version

Brudda

>>713251109
Not a real dungeon

>>713250761
"Chemistry engine" is the gayest fucking buzzword for something that's thoroughly unimpressive and not particularly unique. You couldn't even name a way the world is interactive or interesting that genshin doesn't completely mog it on.

>>713251040
Oh wowie I could collect a heart piece... for what?! There is no challenge unless you make it.

>>713251245
>Not a real dungeon

What's a real dungeon?

>>713251296
One that doesn't last 5 minutes

>Another BotW autist seethe thread
It's been nearly 10 years. It's just getting sad at this point.

>>713251323
>One that doesn't last 5 minutes

Why lie?

>>713251109
>No enemies outside of calamity eyes and bubbles
>No miniboss
>Dungeon interiors are all visually identical
>Reward for clearing dungeon is a weapon that breaks in 30 seconds
That's before even getting to subjective complaints like the dungeon puzzles being novel but braindead

>>713241881
If you design a good dungeon then it wont be predictable. Literally just come up with new paths and items to get through the paths, with new items unlocking hidden or even quicker paths. shouldn't be that hard to make something like this when they used to do so.

>>713251331
People are still regularly seething over Fallout 2 anon.

>>713251423
>No enemies outside of calamity eyes and bubbles
Not true

>No miniboss
Miniboss fight to enter the dungeon

>Dungeon interiors are all visually identical
Damn I guess Zelda 1 didn't have any dungeons either

>Reward for clearing dungeon is a weapon that breaks in 30 seconds
No you get a new magic ability, each one is a game changer

>>713251423
>>Reward for clearing dungeon is a weapon that breaks in 30 seconds
The reward is actually a permanent upgrade from the princess/prince of each divine beasts region but since you never played the game you may not know that.

>>713251434
Anon, you just don't understand. That would be predictable. It's just the same formula over and over. We've had enough dungeons. Nintendo itself is clearly bored to death of them.

>>713251363
Shut up faggot

I like it but only with durability mods

>>713251648
I don't mind weapons breaking: weapons donwear out in real life. But what I mind is once they break I can't reforge them or add upgrades to weapons I like a lot to make them more durable. I suppose however this forces you to try new weapons instead of OP weapon spamming so I can at least understand the design philosophy, even if it isn't my favorite.

>>713241881
I don't even need OoT style dungeons, although I think the aesthetic and thematic variety in OoT is absolutely more interesting than the Divine Beasts. If they're gonna commit to being a big open adventure and highlight the danger and survival aspects of said adventure though, I wish they'd take a page out of something like Ultima Underworld or Legend of Grimrock, where a dungeon is a big dangerous place where you can get lost or die easily.

I think the original Legend of Zelda still does a fantastic job of making dungeons feel like a threat. If BotW is supposed to feel like the original game, why are the dungeons so toothless?

>>713241881
For me it's the zoomer retards who are conditioned into loving open world slop

>>713251732
>I don't mind weapons breaking: weapons donwear out in real life. But what I mind is once they break I can't reforge them or add upgrades to weapons I like a lot to make them more durable

Yes Nintendo should have added ridiculous clunky sub pages to your inventory for your horded broken weapons and pointlessly bloat the game's mechanics for weapon forging. It's good game design to dump worthless mechanics into a streamlined system.

Nintendo should hire you right away

>>713251781
Nta, and you make some fair points. But I sort of viewed the entire map as a dungeon in BotW, and the divine beasts a quasi boss in and of itself (or course there is an actual boss fight at it's completion). It is easy to get lost and even die in BotW if you aren't prepared, especially on the harder difficulties. My 2 cents. I can appreciate both games for what they are.

>>713251224
>botw with a hideous sharpen filter
people fucking paid for this lmao

>>713235089 (OP)
>I literally need Nintendo to make the same game forever or I will die
I mean the rest is subjective but BotW is so different from other Zelda games that there's a subsect of fans who don't consider it a true Zelda game

bring back the hookshot damnit!!

>>713251923
I didn't say I wanted any of that, I just think a blacksmithing mechanic would have been fun. They gave us a cooking one, don't see the harm in a smithing one, especially since you can already mine ore.

>>713251959
>heh it only looks good because that's been modded on PC

Actually that's the 4K/60fps version on Switch 2, with HDR.

>wtf looks like shit tendie! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>713251923
The cooking mechanic and food/herb inventory pages are like the definition of bloat though

>>713252116
Piratechads had this version 2 weeks before tendies lmao

>>713252152
>The cooking mechanic and food/herb inventory pages are like the definition of bloat though

Nah they actually add depth to the gameplay.

You have to explore the world to find ingredients.
Ingredients can be cooked into meals to help you move faster, climb faster, keep warm/cold, give more health, give more strength, give more stamina.

These all the player to create non-binary solutions to adversity and explore further.

>>713252228
>Piratechads had this version 2 weeks before tendies lmao

No you didn't lmao

>>713245157
>and everyone tells Link to hurry up and do his job
Only two people do and one of them is ancient grandma and the other is a fucking ghost. The rest don't give a single shit or even know what he's doing. They just sit around waiting to die.

>>713252448
>v1.12
>Some random retard from two years ago who probably just had outdated drivers

>>713252116
it's the PC version but worse

>>713252703
Kass tells Link to get on with his job after Link does all of his shrines and listens to his song. A few Gerudo women in Kara Kara Bazaar tell Link that they wish that a hero would resolve the problem with the giant robot. And more that I can't remember off the top of my head. I haven't played the game in years and I still know more than you about the game because you didn't actually play it.

>>713235089 (OP)
Lmao. Tendies would literally worship garbage like Valheim if it came out on Switch

>>713252448
You are legit retarded

>>713252386
Kill yourself, retard. Cooking was genuinely fun, but you're exaggerating its utility. By the time that you had decent ingredients, you probably already had armour that did the same thing, but better, and were skilled enough to parry all attacks and avoid damage in general. The only exceptions were things like the mighty bananas and stamina and endura shrooms, which remained easy to obtain and useful for most of the game.

>>713252448
The whole reason game carts exist is because pirate chads on /v/ beat the game 2 weeks before it came out on their hacked Switch

>>713253310
Nah I could wear my climbing gear and eat a warm meal. All options for me.

>>713253352
Game key cards*

>>713253094
>because you didn't actually play it.
I played it 8 years ago on my Wii U. The ones who care about the divine beasts still do jackshit beside the new champions who just help you get close and the divine beasts are basically harmless. Kass is a glorified hint dispenser more than any real character, but even then that's only 3 people in the entire world. None of the characters got off their ass for a century to do anything, they just sat around for a deus ex machina to save them, the world, and their princess.
Botw sucked, its lore sucked, its worldbuilding sucked, its story sucked, and its characters sucked, and its fans suck. There's a reason the only ones people care about are the ones they goon to. Blow it out your ass.

>>713253396
Or wear warm clothes for better protection and upgrade your stamina and/or eat a cooked endura shroom. Even the tutorial teaches you that food is just a temporary measure until you can get armour that does the same thing or better. You're barely any better than a secondary.

>>713253634
>None of the characters got off their ass for a century to do anything, they just sat around for a deus ex machina to save them, the world, and their princess.
>Botw sucked, its lore sucked, its worldbuilding sucked, its story sucked, and its characters sucked, and its fans suck.
The only correct part of your post.

>>713251781
This I can agree with. Traversing some of snowy mountains or trying to climb cliffs in rain felt way more like a threat than any of the dungeons. Nintendo did forget that dungeons should feel dangerous.

>>713254156
>Or wear warm clothes for better protection and upgrade your stamina and/or eat a cooked endura shroom

Doesn't let you climb faster.

You're only proving my point that cooking just opens options for the player to play how they want

>>713254519
And it forgot to add stuff on those mountains. That was such a huge disappointment for me.

>>713254440
Kassfag?

>>713255392
Ew, no. Kass was a bro, but that's all.