I believe this is a worse game than Tak and the Power of Juju

>>713255030 (OP)
i had no idea progression was locked behind shadow mario. i thought it was a shine count thing front to back and you needed around 70 shines to unlock the volcano.
i managed to ignore a shadow mario level and got a shit ton of shines, eventually looking up why i couldn't just beat the game yet.

and in that time playing the game i can say it's easily among the worst 3d marios, yeah

>>713255030 (OP)
the fluds hover is easily the slowest most awful piece of shit hover move in any video game.
why do people suck this game off?

if /v/ hates it then it must be good

>>713255410
Early 2000s nostalgia

>>713255410
Gamecube kids have to defend every one of their exclusives in increasingly pretentious ways. Mario Sunshine is a d-tier platform game. Truly awful to play.

>>713255030 (OP)
How did this mystery even make sense? All you did was bring Yoshi to a merry go round and suddenly you're in another dimension with Bowser Jr taking away your water again.

>>713255030 (OP)
You can believe all you want, but you are wrong.

>>713255030 (OP)
If Mario Sunshine had been released on N64 as Mario 64 episode 2, it would be hailed as one of the greatest games of all time, rivalling Mario 64. It would have the same heated debate than OoT and Majora's Mask have.
People only hate Mario Sunshine because it's on the Gamecube. NPC behaviour.

>>713257573
There's exactly one missing orange Yoshi ride. You can even see in that image the pole it should be attached to. It's still stupid but that's the reason.

>>713258558
Yes but how does shoving a Yoshi into a stick open a portal to another dimension? Other secret levels usually had you entering a hole in a wall or doorway.

>>713257797
It would have been a better game if it had more of Mario 64's moves and fewer of sunshines, but the level design, shitty yoshi implementation, and blue coins drag the game down. Seems like people only defend it because it's a gamecube game. Never see anyone get this bent over something like Galaxy.

>>713257797
Everybody else was making leaps and thriving during that era. The move from 64 to Sunshine is a big leap graphically but the gameplay and controls feels like a marginal improvement at best

>>713255283
The shine sprites are entirely pointless gameplay wise and literally don’t do anything except make Isle Dalphino brighter. I was in the same boat as you. Collecting sprites and wondering why I can’t unlock the volcano. Turns out you just need to beat episode 7 on every level. All the sprites around isle dalphino, all the blue coins, are pointless and only exist to pointlessly pad the game out.

>>713258694
Galaxy is the best 3D mario

>>713258694
Lmao. Galaxy has an army of zoomers ready to defend it.
>>713258959
Case in point.

>>713258959
Galaxy is casual babyshit since it was the first mario I found easy enough to bother 100%ing.

>>713255030 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhrMtk8ifuo

SOUL RANKING:

1. Super Mario Sunshine
2. Super Mario 64
3. Super Mario Odyssey
4. Super Mario Galaxy (and 2)

This ranking will remain true until Donkey Kong Bananza comes out, at which point it will be #1. Never underestimate an ape.

ASPECT RAAAATIIIIIOOOOOOO

>>713259243
My first game was mario64 as a kid. Galaxy is better
>>713259352
Every 3d mario is casual babyshit

>>713255030 (OP)
That implies Tak is a bad game

>>713257797
nah, people fellate oot much harder than majora's mask

Playing Super Mario Sunshine is like looking at an abandoned building.

>>713258921
>only exist to pointlessly pad the game out
Would it have been better if Nintendo had added a shine minimum to unlock the final boss? It's a trivial change to make. Would that have pleased you? Why is everyone such a nigger here all of the time? The point of a game is to play it, not to beat it. I bet you cut your wrists collecting all those shines that you did. What a horrible, horrible time you had.

>>713261057
Trying to get 100 coin shines in Super Mario Sunshine is like shooting yourself with a nail gun.

>>713255030 (OP)
Most of the Cube-era Nintendo games are overrated. We're in that age where GC kids are now controlling the online narrative.

>>713261281
What's getting the blue coin shines?

>>713261426
hooking up your testicles to a car battery.

>>713255030 (OP)
Damn, Tak and the Power of Juju must be pretty good. I remember the song from the promo video.
>I'm a real wild boy- wild boy- wild boy

>>713261279
>it's fun
>>713261281
>it's shit
The duality of /v/

>>713257797
People hate Sunshine because it's a bad game with bad game design. Or are you going to sit here and tell me 100 coin shines kicking you out of the stage is good and the fact not every course episode will have enough coins for said sprite making you collect them over and over again until you do is acceptable.

>>713261380
Ps2 is underrated tho

>>713261857
It has great movement tho, super satisfying jumps, you are fighting the game itself, it's such an unique game.

>>713261857
/v/ would be able to enjoy games again if you all weren't severely, cripplingly autistic and inherently positioned from a contrarian stance. If you could look at games with fresh eyes again, instead of decades accrued cynicism. I can't even remember caring about blue coins when I played this game in middle school, but you've poisoned your mind with too much internet debate and video essays. Now you consider yourself the hero of video games with all the correct opinions, when you're really the village idiot, inebriated on bad moonshine.

>>713257573
>>713258668
these are the top minds criticizing the games you like

>>713262501
>the game is good if you're a kid with no critical thinking
okay?

>>713262105
What good is a decent movement system when there's barely any levels that capitalize on the fucking movement system? None of the stages make good on what Mario can do. 64 sure as shit did from the moment you entered Bob-omb Battlefield.

>>713262501
I played the game from start to finish recently for the first time in 20 years. It wasn't good then and it's not good now.
>/v/ would be able to enjoy games again if you all weren't severely, cripplingly autistic and inherently positioned from a contrarian stance
Sorry that I hold the exact same opinion from when I was 12 year old? I'll do better and play more video games I don't like to remind myself how much I don't like them.

>>713262735
>critically thinking your way out of enjoying a Mario game
It's still good. I'd still play it. I did play it more recently. There's something wrong with your head. You're not the winner here; you've set yourself up to fail at something most people find effortless.

>>713262501
No anon, it's badly desinged, like the blooper thing on the docks? So you have to ride into the water track, do the time challenge and if you don't make it in time(which is never disclosed btw) it will kick you out of the level and take a life off.

And it's not even consistent, some shines let you continue close to where you died, others take you to the beginning of the level, others just kick you out forcing you to watch that dumb city shot then put you at the start of the hub, or you just appear outside the level.

>>713262838
Post more elves doing that face.

GameCubesnoys are a literal cult. Any Switch installment is better than its better than its GCN counterpart.

Mario Odyssey is better than Sunshine.
BoTW is better than Wind Waker or OoT.
Ultimate is better than Melee.

Fuck cubies.

>>713261703
Nah, I agree with both anons. The platforming levels are fun, and the coin grinding is shit. SMS is overhated but it's weak for a 3D Mario game.

>>713255030 (OP)
shut the fuck up gerstmann

>>713255030 (OP)
Tak had soul. I only played the first game though.

>>713262808
you having a skill issue towards Mario Sunshine makes your opinion wrong automatically

>>713261380
>We're in that age where GC kids are now controlling the online narrative.
This. Snoy contrarians love trying to manipulate people into turning on the Switch 1 and 2.

>>713262808
It carries the entire game, I'm quite sure the fludd started as a dev tool which evolved naturally along game development, nozzles break the game pace so they mostly put them far from the intended road to the shine, but sometimes they are just there on the side, waiting for you to help you breeze through some bullshit.

And the levels being shapeless messes with no coherence make the movement shine(heh) even more, all the tech you can perform feels even more satisfying, it's closer to Mario 64 than many are willing to admit.

>>713262987
>GameCubesnoys are a literal cult
I genuinely can't even tell anymore whether or not this shit is just falseflagging or if switch cultists are really THAT bad

>>713263638
NTA but he's right. Cubies are more snoys than Nintendo fans and your constant seething at the Switch only proves it

>>713262838
>It's still good. I'd still play it. I did play it more recently.
Because you still have the brain of a child

>>713263638
>"switch cultists"
Oh, shut the fuck up cubie

>>713263949
>>713264309
Meanwhile you cultists were shilling the garbage NSO subscription weeks ago because muh online fzero gx

>>713264678
NSO gamecube =/= snoycube

One is actually profitable and accessible while the other one flopped and only praised by stinky smelee pedos

FLUDD is a better companion than cappy
Hes got your back

>Cubesnoy gets outed for being a cultist
>deflects to "no u" because xhe can't come up with xer own insult

>>713265029
FLUDD should have stayed dead.

If Mario Odyssey Mario controlled 25% like Sunshine Mario it'd be the perfect Mario

>>713265029
Based

>>713265029
ok cubie cultist

>>713257797
What's the mod

>>713265029
I kind of forgot cappy was supposed to be a character to be honest. His legacy is just being able to throw the hat to jump off of it.
I wish they did more with the enemy possession mechanic. It seems like it's supposed to be important, but it's never used very extensively.

>>713258881
>controls feels like a marginal improvement at best
The controls were worse than 64. They reduced momentum and the constant reliance on FLUDD made the no-FLUDD stages the only worthwhile ones.

>>713255410
It would be way, way more enjoyable to use if you could just change the direction you're facing faster.

>>713255030 (OP)
The best movement in mario locked behind the worst camera and levels of the series. Extremely front loaded game

>>713265598
Mario Odyssey would be better if you could take captures with you, it's so sanitized and there's not much you can do with the power ups.