>moral dilemma isnt realy a dilemma at all if youre not retarded

shut up and go collect the 100 steel ingots

>Nah bro trust me, once we cure the plague I'll totally stop enslaving everybody. All my psychotic goons will happily relinquish their power. Trust the plan bro!
Ashur was either a liar or extremely naive

>>713269751 (OP)
>>713269931
You're acting like a bunch of weak pathetic nearly cannibalistic raiders Would form any kind of competent defense against him

>>713269751 (OP)
why was every fallout 3 dlc so god damn awful?

>>713270204
He's one guy who potentially jobs to a 19-year-old Vault dork. He's no Frank Horrigan

>>713269751 (OP)
i eat the baby

>>713270272
despite the copy-pasted alien, i liked mothership zeta

>>713270435
oh yeah, that actually felt somewhat a dlc, but i'd still give it only 5/10

>>713270340
>He's one guy who potentially jobs to a 19-year-old Vault dork. He's no Frank Horrigan
Frank Horrigan was barely even able to stand he was a genetic and scientific monstrosity and abomination who only manages to be A threat in the same way odd job is because of their strength and size and aside from that he wasn't even the main villain he was just a Lackey

>>713269751 (OP)
I was utterly shocked at the lack of sexual slavery in this DLC

>>713269751 (OP)
Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about these "moral" choices? It's a game; whatever choice get's me the best guns, abilities or waifu is best for me. Let's go and get it done. I got shit to do IRL.

>>713269751 (OP)
What was even the plot of this dlc? All I remember is steel ingots.

>>713270272
>>713270560
> Mothership Zeta
> The Pitt
> Broken Steel
>Point Lookout
I know they didnt really have any actual quests I mean they had a good 4 hour quest line but thats about it for most of these but I wanted to say I think the reason everybody remembers them and the ones in Fallout New Vegas and the ones in Skyrim and Morrowind is because they weren't dlcs they were actual expansion packs and the last game that had an expansion pack that added anything was cyberpunk

>>713270796
Slavers have taken over Pittsburgh because her brotherhood of steel initiate got stuck there after showing the slavers that he was actually competent and not fully a tard they bowed down before him in what was a chaotic raider breeding ground of Pittsburgh changed into being slightly more civilized however now he needs to take Pittsburgh from being a raider city or wants to into being a major steel producing city city sort of the same idea as Caesar except Caesar already has new Vegas in this scenario asher just doesn't have the slaves

>>713270796
Pittsburgh is full of violent mutated cannibals and ruled by murderous thugs who enslave people. Then the Great War happens

>>713269931
>Ashur was either a liar or extremely naive
Not all his lieutenants will agree to end slavery, those that are not loyal to him will be purged when the reforms come. The smarter lieutenants and underlings will get more more territory to rule over after the purge.

>>713269824
fucking hated that so much

>>713271031
He was a paladin or knight at least. Initiates don't have power armor.

>>713271449
>Initiates don't have power armor
Anon, literally the very first Brotherhood member you meet in Fallout 1 is an Initiate wearing Power Armor

>>713271449
4 player detected

>>713271449
>He was a paladin or knight at least. Initiates don't have power armor.
The same anus different shit It doesn't really matter cept to prove that he's competent and isn't a part of the third world mindset that the rest of the Raiders in the area have And is trying to start the steel Mills and production and shii

>>713270204
>[Cannibal] "Not my problem." < Eat zhe babby >

>>713271796
>on sunny days it doesn't need fixing
But wouldn't the water damage still be present on sunny days?

>>713270720
When will the safe edgy glass ceiling be broken?

>>713270720
Bethesda is scared of that sort of thing. Look no further than Fallout 4 where Cait's parents waited until she was 18 to sell her into slavery.

>>713272030
I mean if that's what you're going to choose you could have mentioned the fact that Starfield has an entire pirate quest line and you don't get the option to betray the pirates are the last minute or take all of the pirate heist for yourself or anything and you see the Pirates take people as slaves but they don't and they make sure not to say sex slaves or anything

>>713272161
Actually I couldn't have mentioned that because I didn't play Starfield

>>713271573
The entrance guard was an initiate? I didnt remember that. The initiates inside were training in combat armor.

>>713271653
I played all the games except tactics, BoS, and 76. But its been a while since I played 1 and 2 though. I remember that at least in 3 and nv the initiates didn't have power armor.

>>713272230
a life better spent than mine

>>713272030
>Bethesda is scared of that sort of thing

>>713270720
>eating people
>fine
>mass enslavement
>also fine
>implied reap
>shut it down
Meanwhile TNV did all three and then some with a questline that once you read into it further you'd wonder how they got away with it.

>>713272376
Don't forget that in Fallout 3 you can LITERALLY help a girl date rape a priest so that she can guilt him into marrying her, and you gain karma for doing so

>>713272305
Bethesda still made kids invulnerable. The fact that it became even more toothless over the years is irrelevant

>>713270690
Ah yes, oddjob's famed strength and size...

>>713272305
Fallout 3 really let you be evil. unlike NV
Fallout 3 are the last good game from Bethesda and better then anything Obsidian even made or ever make.

>>713272601
Good morning sir

>>713272569

>>713272950
>Source: AI
lmao

>>713273296
>>713273296
>>Source: AI
>lmao
The argument was "Oddjob isn't known for his strength" and the second result of what is Oddjob known for is "his strength"
move the fence post farther tho tard It doesn't make Frank Horrigan any more than a lackey which was my other point

>>713269751 (OP)
They really skimped on the writing for this dlc and put all the time and money into creating location. It's a shame because the setting is so fucking cool, but the quests and story fall incredibly short.

It's also bizarre, you finally get to that 3rd area in the game and its this big elaborate setting with tons of verticality, the huge main building and even buildings off to the side you can enter but they do nothing with this place, you go there once for one quest and then its time to escape

>>713272512
Credit where credit is due, it might be the only AAA game where you can canonically sell cunny
>>713272601
>Fallout 3 really let you be evil. unlike NV
Most scripted evil acts in F3 are cartoon-tier moustache twirling. I get it's fun, but I prefer NV's more realistic approach

>>713273717
I have to agree with this it felt the same way in point lookout too I know there's a lot of other stuff you can find on the island but with most of it having to deal with Desmond and The brain, or whatever his name was. I wonder if, although I'm never gonna actually find out, but I wonder if fallout 76 is version of Pittsburgh and is any good.

>>713273717
>really cool atmosphere
>awesome weapons
>cool premises
>all goes by way too quick
>even getting all 100 ingots isnt that time consuming as the actual area is pretty compact, just vertical

>>713273296
Do you think that Oddjob and Bond are characters that Rare invented? Oddjob was extremely large. About average height, but broad as a gorilla.

>>713273862
>Most scripted evil acts in F3 are cartoon-tier moustache twirling.
To be honest, And I have no idea how good this sounds. As I'm writing this out. I would have preferred fallout 4. And in general, fallout three a lot If they leaned heavily on you being more super cartoony evil. I'm glad that fallout 4 gave you the option to side with the institute But the institute's reason for being evil wasn't even 1/10 as fun as the enclaves. Or two tenths as fun as bringing my companions into the river. and watching them die.

For me, it's Point Lookout.

>>713274116
I like point lookouts setting, but I hate the main quest for point lookout, even though there's some cool events I didn't really like that one Lovecraft story I don't know why fallout 4 does that thing too where they need to include Lovecraft inspired stuff events it feels Completely out of place at least for me in fallout also same with that one weird alien helmet that kept everybody alive for 500 plus years or something

>>713273876
I didn't get that feeling in Point Lookout. I thought it did a much better job pacing itself and letting you spend time in that location and breathe it all in. It's also cool how every quest in that DLC kind of has an air of mystery to them, very cool atmosphere. Only thing I really think is a weak point of it is the ending and how abrupt it feels, you have no option but to kill the big brain there's no interesting conversation, no nothing just kill and end the story

>>713274116
I really liked the spy quest in this. This DLC is probably the best thing Bethesda has ever done with Fallout.

>>713269751 (OP)
The real problem is that Ashur's need for slaves is causing massive raider problems in the DC area. Why should (you) care about the Pitt? Fuck them and do what's best for DC people.

>>713274362
Eh. Sci-fi is magic but with a coat of paint of science. The Ug-Qualtoth stuff certainly stands out, but not in a way that upsets me. The game has way more retarded moments that negatively affect believability and immersion

>>713274362
Lovecraft is really unfitting for fallout. I don't understand why Bethesda keeps sticking into their games.

>>713276096
>they did it again with ZOOM because demons just aren't bad enough for the modern audiences anymore
Lel

>>713269751 (OP)
Point Lookout and The Pitt are the only worthwhile DLC in Fallout 3. Operation Anchorage is an overhated nothing burger. Mothership Zeta is boring and clunky. Broken Steel ruins your game.

The Pitt would almost be perfect if the "twist" of the plot wasn't so forced. Do you kidnap a baby for the butthurt ex-raider who swears he's a good guy? Or do you side with the delusional raider boss daddy who swears slavery is just a means to an end? Combing the steelyard was a lot of fun, at least.

it's kind of interesting that wernher will show his true colors is you pass the speech check at the end to tell him if he leaves peacefully you won't kill him

>>713274116
I still remember how they have the perk that was supposed to give you +5 damage against ghouls in this dlc. but they fucked it so bad and it ended up applying PER SHOT and to all enemies, and because of how dlc esp's worked they couldn't patch it. so it resulted in stuff like minigun's almost tripling in damage if you had the perk
kek

>>713269751 (OP)
Ofc not. Just eat the baby and finish what Lyons half-assed, the complete purge of the land.

>>713274116
Point Lookout was fucking annoying with the enemies' damage, you could be lvl 30 with the best PA in the game and some inbred retard with a 15% condition shotgun takes half your health from 200 yards

>>713278070
>Sure, fine. Obviously, you've joined with Ashur and I think you've got a bright future as a lackey. You really do. But you know what? Fuck this city, and fuck the raiders, fuck the slaves, and fuck you too, fucker. I'm gone.
What about this is his "true colors?" Seems pretty reasonable to be upset that the guy he brought in to help ended up betraying him

>>713279129
>fuck the slaves
>What about this is his "true colors?"

>>713279268
What the fuck do you expect him to say? You've fucked up his only chance to do anything. You've never wanted to do something then gotten angry and said "fuck this"?

>>713278815
bethesda realized how bad they balanced DR so many enemies in the dlc will do a flat 40 damage through all DR for some fucking reason.

>>713274382
>you have no option but to kill the big brain there's no interesting conversation, no nothing just kill and end the story
You *do* fortunately have the option of (after killing the brain) also killing Desmond after he babbles about his microcosm to punish his rudeness earlier in the DLC and end his retarded crusade.

>get KO'd by a few guys with lead pipes despite wearing full armor that even shotguns shouldn't penetrate
ok

>>713269751 (OP)
this nigga thinks slavery is evil LMAO
letting arthur or whatever his name is be is the only correct decision, killing him and ditching the place will just cause total chaos
you're like one of those "people" that support the iraq war and the coming iran war for "moral" "reasons"
THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM

>>713269751 (OP)
Siding with the raiders because they have cooler looking armor
Sorry slaves, get back to work

If radiation is so deadly how come they drop the barrels for the arena fights and just have a shot that gets rid of all the radiation you took on?

>>713272601
>>713273862
NVs realism has its place and it does a good job, but I'd love for there to be more sandbox games that give you the freedom to be super mega satan along with all the benefits and consequences.

>>713276689
>overhated
Anchorage is ass because it's a Call of Duty level stuck in a game with clunky and awful shooting
and the reward for it is just a reskin of a vanilla armor that only happens to be better because of a bug

>>713283448
I like the headcanon that radiation is only deadly if you take too much, and otherwise you can get along just fine with some radaway, only poorfags who cant afford it die of radiation sickness

It explains the gaping plot hole of ghouls existing, specially prewar ghouls, constantly being irradiated and flushing it out slowly mutates you into an immortal zombie thing

>>713269931
This just kinda proves it was a real moral dilemma because even assuming Ashur IS full of shit, he has a much higher chance of successfully curing the disease and I side with him most of the time. Ashur is a former Knight or Paladin of the BOS and his wife is a ltieral scientist, Wehrner ias some nobody who is going to stick the magic cure baby in a rusty worn down building and somehow figure out how to synthesize a treatment from it before the thing dies from the dozens of infections it's gonna get from that environment.

>>713269751 (OP)
Eat the baby

wernher is morally worse than ashur.
in fact i'd argue his ending is worse and less likely to effect any positive change

>>713272601
>>713273862
Fallout 3 feels like a product of its time where a lot of games had pretty simplistic morality systems like Fable, Bioshock, and Infamous. All the morality has to either be altruistically good or over the top bad. In New Vegas karma is a complete non-factor asides from Cass being the only character to give a shit about it while it's also incredibly easy to unintentionally farm good karma

>>713269751 (OP)
Should've been Cleveland.

>>713269931
Brotherhood tends to be quite naive. Whether they're doing good or evil, their extremely sheltered, ideologically-indoctrinated lives make them kind of hapless retards

>>713271147
That's a hell of a big "if"

>>713272601
>Launches 30 nukes at California
>Launches 30 nukes at Arizona
>Kills over 300 named NPCs in Vegas
>Kills Caesar
>Join forces Legate Lanius
>Happily allow Legate Lanius to rape, kill and enslave the entire Mojave Wasteland
N...nothing evil here. move along