RiseBreak:
>here's a quest to hunt a monster
>depart
>hunt monster
>good work, here's 4 more quests to hunt monsters that you can accept in any order before hunting a bigger monster

Wilds:
>hunter, let's go say hello to the local brown people!
>slowly auto-follow Alma
>look hunter, a rock! press A to look at the rock! oh, press A to look at the mountain next!
>1. Wow, nature's majesty sure is majestic.
>2. I wonder what the mineral composition of this rock is...
>3. Can Grug use rock hunt monster?
>hey hunter, let's slow down and disable your slinger for no apparent reason
>oh, look, flat-beaked scrombompulus! they're so beautiful... wow, nature hecking rocks!
>meow, that's pawsitively awesome! :DD
>oh, hunter, this looks like the local village of brown people, let's slow down so we can cinematically trot in
>HELLO WELCOME TO OUR PEACEFUL AND VAGUELY CENTRAL ASIAN VILLAGE OF PEACE, WE HAVE MUCH TO TEACH YOU ABOUT EATING GRUBS WITH YOUR HANDS
>skip cutscene
>skip cutscene
>OH NO, A MONSTER!
>meow, i nearly shat my fur, LOL!
>HUNTER, WE BEG OF YOU: PHYSICALLY PUT DOWN YOUR CONTROLLER AND GO TO THE KITCHEN WHILE YOUR SEIKRET CINEMATICALLY FOLLOWS THE MONSTER FROM ON-RAILS PATHS THAT NO ONE WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO SEE IN MANUAL MODE!
>wait a minute, hunter... those rocks
>shoot the rocks with your slinger!
>shoot the rocks with your slinger!
>shoot the rocks with your slinger!
>press B to shoot rocks
>wow, great work hunter! and just in time for the guild to process our formal written request to hunt this monster. let's do this!
>play monster hunter for 7 minutes
>wow, great work hunter! i'm sure the local brown people will have plenty of thanks for you to mash through.
>skip cutscene
>mash through dialogue
>skip cutscene
>hey hunter, let's go talk to the local population of marketable Ewok-like Lynians, is it okay if Jobber Maximus, voted most likely to be endangered by a random monster in his high school yearbook, comes with us?
>slowly auto-follow Alma

>>713314806 (OP)
You just replaced World with Wilds. I have seen this pasta before. Die.

>>713314806 (OP)
Wilds is like that because Capcom is catering to the American players.

>>713315073
Uh oh, looks like Trump missed a spot!

>>713314806 (OP)
>praising risebreak when it's part of the problem by turning things even more into Monster Fighter instead of Hunter, which Wilds followed up on
>conveniently leaving out as well how Rise went into cringe story territory that placed unnatural importance on the human characters over just hunting monsters

>>713315364
Did they combine the worst aspects of World and Rise to create Wilds?

>>713314806 (OP)
>meow, i nearly shat my fur, LOL!

>>713315364
Yes, but Rise characters were memorable and easy on the eyes, Wilds characters on the other hand are ugly and forgetable.

>>713315941
Character focus is part of the problem to begin with. Even if it's done well it still interferes with what MH should be.

Am I expected to be spamming my seikret in order to heal? The monsters are so spastic and erratic that it feels like a bother to learn their patterns.

The back and forth of hitting a monster, then getting on the seikret to heal is really fucking unfun.

>>713316883
Should only be useful in the most dire of emergencies. You can just sprint and drink most of the time, or wait for your cat to heal you.

>>713314806 (OP)
Man. You're still in low rank?

>>713317056
The whole game is low rank

>>713316883
I don't know how to tell you this but learning the monsters patterns is the entire game. You could continue playing despite this, but it'd be like someone who hates puzzles playing a puzzle game.

I'm "hunting" for a game without so many gosh darn brown people!!!

>>713317117
Bro, I have thousands and thousands of hours in this series. My sweet baby insect glaive got forced into a charge attack meta. Most of the time I get hit it's because I'm in an animation or trying to charge up an attack.

When it rains, it pours I guess.

>>713315364
MH has always been "monster fighter." The only games ashamed of being MH titles are world and wilds which is probably they both have wildly different logos from the rest of the series.

>>713314806 (OP)
i push the auto find monster button and wank my fucking crank shafter to gemmas monster tits

just play FU

>>713314806 (OP)
Where are the leaks?

>>713318110
fuck yoself bitch

>game where everyone is outside all the time
>WHERE ARE ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE
These are the same gamers that call a woman in battle armor "unrealistic," by the way.

>>713318609
The second new monster is supposedly Steve.

>>713314806 (OP)
>say hello to the local brown people
You could have stopped there, we get what you care about most

>>713315941
I hope you get raped by niggers for saying retarded shit online

>>713318718
you should play GU instead

>>713319498
Hunting monsters?

>>713314806 (OP)
>Finish all the story shit in mere hours
>Wilds turns into the first part
Wow it's like monster hunter at its core is just a shit shallow game that used to be disguised as "deep" due to jank and grind

>>713316883
Haven't played the nuMH but couldn't you drink a potion?
A s wait, there's more!
By adding honey it makes the heal bigger.

>>713314806 (OP)
I like it better if there's some polish music

>>713319065
White people built everything. Outside. Literally.

>>713319498
I see, may God strike down these bots/discord troons. (Or indians, God forbid)

>>713319448
I can't wait for the paid dlc.

when are we getting old mh random quest list + rise n amount of keys for progress

I see Rise/Sun is on sale. Do I buy that instead of Wilds when I'm done with Woldborne?

Seems like Wilds might need a couple of extra years.

>>713323101
gotta ask yourself first if you want the combat to be more or less like dmc, if you want more, get rise, if you want less, consider looking in to older games like 4u, p3rd or p2ndg, almost all the old mh games have active online scenes currently

>>713315941
This but unironically.

>>713317519
>thousands of hours
>forced into a meta
So World was your first game? Cool.

>>713319448
>Port Mizu and Seregios instead of making new monsters or bringing back ones that we havent seen in years
>paid cosmetic DLC
>AT Uth Duna
>Paid cosmetic DLC
>Doshaguma mask quest
>Paid cosmetic DLC

So Lagi is it; got it.

>>713324952
>bringing back ones that we havent seen in years
>he wanted Monoblos

>30 fps
>All monsters are shit
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Unskippable walking segments
>No endgame
>No Elder Dragons
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No challenge
>No MH language
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>713324182
Basic reading comprehension is necessary to fully enjoy the internet, my mentally challenged friend.

>>713324182
Have you used IG in Wilds? The new charge attacks have completely redefined how you play the weapon.
>charge on the ground while performing your basic combo with the other button
>charge in the air to perform the downward thrust
>charge your Kinsect to collect multiple extracts at once
>perform a finisher by comboing out of one of the charged attacks and consuming all your extracts
Yes you can simply do basic attacks but you can ALSO charge while doing them. It's not like it has charge levels, either; it either is charged or it isn't. I'd argue it's actually a nerf to the weapon since the input is holding one face button to charge while the other is free to be used normally, despite the fact that pressing both face buttons together goes completely unused. That would have been a perfectly fine place for these attacks if they didn't want the charge time to be part of it. So yes, they very intentionally implemented a "charge meta" onto the Insect Glaive: they added a charge where there wasn't one and didn't need to be one.

>>713325892
I believe there are two levels of charge actually.

But yes, anon is an idiot, thank you for defending me.

>>713314806 (OP)
>RiseBreak
why do you retards call it this instead of sunrise?
same with worldfags calling it world borne instead of ice world

>>713325117
Really is disgusting how washed out and colorless Wilds is.

>>713326928
Because the G Rank expansion comes later?

>>713315941
This. It gave me my wives Yomogi and Komitsu

>Risebreak makes the monster intros play before the quest starts and are easily skippable even on multiplayer
Such a smalll detail, but it makes the experience so much more enjoyable than World and Wilds

>>713327148
>he doesn't use the world cutscene skip mod

>>713327250
You still have to get in the quest and find the cutscene trigger before you can skip it to enable multiplayer

>>713314806 (OP)
for real though
>both run on re engine
>should be quite simple to share the same quest/investigation system
>risebreak can easily to 3-4 single hunt monster quests or 3 single hunt investigations with scaling difficulty you can manually adjust
>wilds can only do 2 max, fixed difficulty, their only triple hunt is a fucking event quest that is 1 by 1
what the fuck?

>>713315364
The point is theres no reason to pad the simplicity of monhuns quest progression. Rise was just back to old gen quest rank up.
>conveniently leaving out as well how Rise went into cringe story territory that placed unnatural importance on the human characters over just hunting monsters
Thats been the plot of monhun for a long time that got more pronounced by 4u. But atleast 4u didnt cram useless shit in your face every 30 second.

>>713317973
I do this in nultiplayer, but when my horsebird arrives with the other players im not done flogging the hog and end up just standing by them till it ends

>>713327148
>Risebreak makes the monster intros play before the quest starts
I thought that sucks and killed the surprise for my friends. It's obvious that the game can actually handle in-quest skippable cutscenes, but they just don't do it for some reason

>>713314806 (OP)
this is even more grim when you think about how they completely neutered the code gameplay to remove any and all friction, but then introduced a different kind of friction that is literally just 100% terrible.

>>713327136
My girls.

>>713327136
>artist got nuked
fucking hate xitter activists

>*whistles for magic chicken*
>autoruns to monster marker while i watch tiktoks
>"Mhmm... Chatacabra, gotta be."
>"Come on, Seikret."
>Big Nose Tits Mcgee Handler shouts in my ear
>"YOU REALLY ARE A MONSTER HUNTER™ IN THESE WILDS™"
>approach Chatacabra
>whiff TCS but thankfully I can activate my Hunter Senses so I 180 pivot to hit the monster
>continue using hunter senses and unleash my cinematic attack
>repeat this 30 times
>get hit once, thankfully my cat throws a ball of green cum at me so im completely healed but just in case i call for my magic chicken to swoop me away from danger while i auto sharpen, heal, do my taxes, and make some food while the monster limps away
>when im ready, the magic chicken autoruns to the monsters exact location and arrives in 4 seconds, enough time to completely ignore everything else onscreen like the landscape or endemic life while i watch a tiktok (thank goodness for this small quality of life feature)
>kill the monster (really hard because i had to use buttons to make things happen in the game)
>skip all the post-quest text and rewards with 1 button (i can get back to watching tiktoks faster)

Fiorayne has yet to be surpassed

>>713331154
Fiorayne, Kayna and Sophia are best girls from the franchise.

>>713331154
>>713331280
guild tomboy that bullies you your entire journey before nervously saying you've proved yourself and can join when you clear the final hunt her cleans every other mh girl except yomogi

>>713314806 (OP)
Rise 2 will save the franchise.

I downloaded again to do the Akuma quests, and fucking hell why is this game so ugly, like I remember it being ugly then I open the game and it's even worse, how they fuck they do it?

>>713323101
Rise is too easy and boring
>but sunbreak
they have to turn into stupid level investigation grind so the game can have more longevity. it's a bad game in my book

>>713332724
>Rise
>also good
lmao

Still not gonna play wilds.
Cope Tendie.

>>713314806 (OP)
Wilds for Switch 2 when?

>>713331446
does she actually bully you? pretty sure she is on your dick minute 1
*ahn fierce flame*

>>713334829
she locks you in a chastity cage and edges you every night.
At least that's the only thing I remember from the story.

>>713314806 (OP)
>>meow, i nearly shat my fur, LOL!

>>713331154
Mogged in her own game.

>>713317686
alright show me one hour of MH1 content that doesnt involve 90% prepping, gathering, and running around trying to find the monster

...oh wait

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THE BLACK BVLL

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THE TEMPERED OF TEMPEREDS

THE JUSTICIAR OF JUSTICE

THE TALLEST OF THE TALL


CHADIGANTE THE RUINER

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GRIPgante the CRUSHING

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>>713336158
fled in fear from Lunastra

>>713337490
>fled in fear f-ACK

>>713314806 (OP)
it gets better in high rank but that doesn't excuse how awful low rank is to slog through
and even when you do the hunts do not make up for it, even though i enjoy offset attacks
it's going to need even more saving thanks to g-rank than rise did

>>713331154
She's the worst part of Sunbreak's story and one of the reasons why Wild's story also sucked.

>>713315941
Gemma?

>>713324952
>instead of making new monsters or bringing back ones that we havent seen in years
they put blangonga, kut ku, and gypceros and everyone here hated it
i think you're all going to complain regardless of who they put in

>>713338475
disgusting dyke with a side cut.

>>713315364
At least risebreak let me skip the shit I didnt care about, and the skippable cinematics (all 3-4 of them) were only at the start/end of a hunt
You can have a melty if you want, risebreak knew what it was about and complied to the player instead of strongarming him

my wives

>lagi is back
>no underwater fighting
for what purpose, that's his whole gimmick

>>713325117
>>713326993
Did they even tweak the game to not run like absolute fucking garbage even in NASA rigs?

>>713338347
How so?

>>713338737
I liked the white lagi fight a lot

>>713338542
I don't hate any of those. I do despise how fucking neutered they are, ESPECIALLY Blangonga. That's what the fundamental issue is here with returning monsters.

Similar sentiment with Nerscylla. Love the monster, but her fight in Wilds is a complete joke.

>>713336158
>Is only brave enough to hunt elderly or injured elder dragons that went to the New World because they're close to dying

>>713339030
come on now, don't pretend people here weren't complaining about gypceros before they even release the game

>>713338903
Ivory was one of the hardest fights in 3U but only because they gave him an emergency quest.
Landlaggi is literally just Khezu with a Ludroth skeleton

>>713339110
>>Is only brave enough t-ACK

>>713339169
Not everyone is going to like every monster. Gypceros is pretty much a nothing burger with a few annoying moves, but ultimately a non issue.

all I want is GU at 60fps, is that too much to ask?

>zoomers unironically simping for rise
shit mobile game

>>713317686
Why do babbies that started with Rise pretend to be veterans all the time?

>>713323101
Risebreak is the worst monhan and Wilds is unfinished.
I would emulate GU or 4U instead.

>Now, an actual mobile game, is less gay than R*se
lol lmao

Both rise and wilds have the fundamental problem of being too easy, but wilds is even easier.

>>713325093
IT WAS HIS TURN
DIABLOS HAS HAD IT GOOD FOR TOO LONG

>>713340235
>my shit tastes better than your shit
you really thought you had them didn’t you?

>>713340356
Alright anon which one is it. Too poor for a phone or too fat to walk around for more than 5 minutes?

>>713340457
are you genuinely retarded? stop buying and defending mediocre games

>>713340606
no answer... that means I'm close and it IS either one of those things, LOL, LMAO

>>713338475
I don't like sluts

>>713340753
my gun collection costs more than everything you own and I do 5 hours of 85%HR on top of 3 hours of lifting every week. both games are shit.

>>713340869
bruh stop tweaking AHAHAHA

>>713338890
Handler makes more sense now that we find out that she's supposed to be a support hunter but capcom was too retarded to implement it in wordborne

>>713323101
Its certainly a safer alternative. Wilds almost always breaks whenever they update.
Also sunrise GL is peak

>>713340930
it would be more interesting if you actually had an argument

>>713341069
nigga thinks he's on reddit arguing for upboats lemme guess you're a /pol/boomer LMFAAAOOOOOOO

>>713340869
pressed fr

>>713323101
It's a much better MH than both wilds and world, but /v/ is obsessed with hating it more than actually playing it to find out.

>niggers have such low iq they will chimp out over anything
it’s funny to wind them up and watch them go

Wilds was pretty fun but I have shittaste. Should I wait for sunbreak to be on sale?
>>713340990
Where can I get all the monhun artbooks?

>>713314806 (OP)
Oh look, hyperbole. Very exciting.

>>713323101
I wouldn't even buy wilds if its 5 dollarydoos. Best to get Risebreak now not that its online is spiking.

>>713341727
I would wait, TU is close just play something else

>>713315364
Oh shut the fuck up. No MH game ever had those "hunting" aspects you faggots cream about. Randomly running around until you find a monster isn't hunting. World got close, but then they just had the flies show you where the tracks are instead of you actually having to pay attention to them.

>>713342125
not reading, kys risepedo

>>713323101
Rise is overhated, it's very fun and campy like old MH games + cute girls
It took a few too many things from world and added a few more bad ideas, but it's snappy, fun, and addictive even if easy at times
Sunbreak is extremely fun with all the different builds you can try out + switch skills
https://youtu.be/_l0XOykueZc
Wilds feels like you're playing nothing; it's sludge. The music isn't even good besides the iceshard cliffs theme

>>713342354
>Rise is overhated
oops typo, overrated*

>>713342568
oops another typo
I'm a faggot*

>>713342164
Keep chugging the cinematic slop world/wildsbab

>>713319448
>variety of paid cosmetic dlc extras typed twice

>>713335958
show me one hour of MH1 video where you auto follow npc with uninterruptible movements and cutscenes

>>713319364

>>713323101
this anon is right on the money
>>713342354

>>713342354
I don't even get the easy meme. World and Iceborne didn't have anything remotely resembling difficulty until the TUs either.

>>713343643
Wilds is harder than vanilla world and about the same as vanilla Rise but we have to have this retarded discussion forever because thirds can't run it on their computers

>>713314806 (OP)
fucking jej

the pasta that mindbroke wildsfags into sissysubmission

>>713342164
>no argument
Raped and gaped. Learn what the word hunting actually means.

Wilds was made for people who played through World with Defender equipment

>>713338475
Gemma is hot but having sex with sex freak twin sisters is as close to heaven as we can possibly get

>>713314806 (OP)
I can't believe they added more to the hunting simulation aspects and thought that the bureaucracy of having a license was a good idea.

>>713333703
Wilds is such a piece of optimized shit game that I'm pretty sure it would burn the Switch 2.

It unironically will never happen. Portable MH for Switch 2 is a given though. It will 100% be Rise 2 or something because Capcom is seeing how much negative attention Wilds is getting

I want them to put GU on steam so I never have to play these out of touch dogshit nu-monhun games again

>>713343643
Wilds felt noticeably easier than World before the TU1 + buffs for the Apexes + gore. Some people still cling on to the easier than World meme but I don't feel it applies anymore (doing a slight respec for some of the Elders is minor inconvenience). 8* + 5 difficulty Gore is tougher than anything in base world + Deviljho. The Apexes were buffed a bit and feel like they should have from the beginning. Mizu is ok as well and Zoah is a better fight than Xeno. If it's still too easy then fags need to stop carting on my hunts.

What is actually noticeable and a real problem are the wider gaps between the title updates. They have to be substantial at this point or it's truly over.

>>713315941
I think Alma is good. The rest I don't really care for. Gemma isn't all that attractive with her weird fetal alcohol syndrome face and retarded hair.

GenUlt:
>here's a quest to hunt a monster
>depart
>hunt monster
>good work, here's 4 more quests to hunt monsters that you can accept in any order before hunting a bigger monster

Wilds:
>hunter, let's go say hello to the local brown people!
>slowly auto-follow Alma
>look hunter, a rock! press A to look at the rock! oh, press A to look at the mountain next!
>1. Wow, nature's majesty sure is majestic.
>2. I wonder what the mineral composition of this rock is...
>3. Can Grug use rock hunt monster?
>hey hunter, let's slow down and disable your slinger for no apparent reason
>oh, look, flat-beaked scrombompulus! they're so beautiful... wow, nature hecking rocks!
>meow, that's pawsitively awesome! :DD
>oh, hunter, this looks like the local village of brown people, let's slow down so we can cinematically trot in
>HELLO WELCOME TO OUR PEACEFUL AND VAGUELY CENTRAL ASIAN VILLAGE OF PEACE, WE HAVE MUCH TO TEACH YOU ABOUT EATING GRUBS WITH YOUR HANDS
>skip cutscene
>skip cutscene
>OH NO, A MONSTER!
>meow, i nearly shat my fur, LOL!
>HUNTER, WE BEG OF YOU: PHYSICALLY PUT DOWN YOUR CONTROLLER AND GO TO THE KITCHEN WHILE YOUR SEIKRET CINEMATICALLY FOLLOWS THE MONSTER FROM ON-RAILS PATHS THAT NO ONE WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO SEE IN MANUAL MODE!
>wait a minute, hunter... those rocks
>shoot the rocks with your slinger!
>shoot the rocks with your slinger!
>shoot the rocks with your slinger!
>press B to shoot rocks
>wow, great work hunter! and just in time for the guild to process our formal written request to hunt this monster. let's do this!
>play monster hunter for 7 minutes
>wow, great work hunter! i'm sure the local brown people will have plenty of thanks for you to mash through.
>skip cutscene
>mash through dialogue
>skip cutscene
>hey hunter, let's go talk to the local population of marketable Ewok-like Lynians, is it okay if Jobber Maximus, voted most likely to be endangered by a random monster in his high school yearbook, comes with us?
>slowly auto-follow Alma

what the hell happened that caused such a massive negative review spike in just the past week?

>>713323101
Yes. Sunbreak is currently the best modern Monster Hunter expansion. Base Rise is a little boring, but Sunbreak is great. Wilds is basically Monster Hunter but lobotomized children. Nothing you learn in World/Rise or any classic Monster Hunter will carry over to Wilds because you don't need it. Focus Mode completely destroys the skill floor and you just just mash attack in the monster's face and suffer no consequences.

>>713314806 (OP)
>has genuine complaints
>cries about brown people still
discarded.

>>713345349
it shouldve launched like this.

I played freedom unite on my psp for a good amount before wilds released and played that.
I think its an alright game, but i have the same opinion of freedom unite.
Ultimately, monhun is just not that good of a series and wilds changes only exacerbate that.
They "modernized" it in ways that make sense by giving you more control over your hunter in combat and automating things that were offensively repetitive in the old games.
But the fact that doing this makes the game less good just kinda shows that monhun is just fundamentally kinda screwed.
It should never have gotten as huge as it did.

>>713345349
I'm gonna guess it's a game update but the game itself still running like shit on nuclear powered 'puters

>>713345294
>oh look thunderbugs, if I touch them I can turn them into a trap or whatever
Oh thanks; I guess I'm a fucking retard and forgot that my character said that last quest too

>>713345349
Public opinion started to catch up and people realized that they aren't playing it anymore despite it being a MH game

>>713314806 (OP)
I wanted World 2. This ain't it bro

>>713345349
>Play game when at launch, it runs like shit
>"meh guess i'll trust capcom will fix it in a few months"
>try again
>still runs like absolute shit
>can't get refunds
>leave negative review

>>713345349
Update broke PC performance.

>>713345356
8 star tempers (especially Gore) are harder then anything in either Base World or Rise, so I don’t get this. If you were talking about launch Wilds then absolutely.

>Prior games I could get hundreds of hours in base HR game alone
>Even with how bad Rise' base game was I still got 400hrs out of it before the expansion
>After 80hrs in Wilds I genuinely don't feel like playing anymore
Genuinely hope the expansion fixes it like Sunbreak did for Rise

>>713347539
No, you got exactly what you asked for.

>>713348428
If the expansion is anything like Iceborne, it will most definitely introduce new performance problems and the cycle will begin anew

>>713323101
I thought it was fun
Base game had flaws, but everything I didn't like got fixed with Sunbreak
I recommend playing it with mods

>>713345349
honey moon phase is over

>>713345349
Perfect storm of events like every other anon has been saying for months since it's launch. Every single thing about Wilds sucks from the gameplay to the UI and finally the worst performance per patch and TUs taking many months.

World gave us Kulve endgame grind and they were tossing ATs at us every 2 weeks with Lunas addition. Wilds doesn't even have enough monsters to make ATs every 2 weeks.

>4/4U cut monster health in half and basically double your damage via skills resulting in hunts that are half as long
>GU adds OP styles and OP super moves and counters that trivialize the game
>World straight up removes Hub quests and lets you restock mid-hunt, esentially making single player as easy village quests by default.
>Rise re-adds even more OP super moves ehile sharing Worlds problems
>As if the general buffs 4/4U made to stats wasn't bad enough, Wilds again buffs everything about the Hunter, and adds super easy spammable counters (no longer locked behind a cooldown like GU/Rise) and free aimable attacks so you never miss. Hunts are now EVEN SHORTER becuase of how much easier everything is.

These are the real issues with Monster Hunter that are ruining the game. They started with 4, and it's only made Singleplayer a worse and worse experience with every game. It's a similar experience to how MMOs started to die when they started to cater to Solo players. Now you no lomger need nor want a group to progress through diffixult Hub Quests, you can just easily solo everything with your super moves, infinote healing, and crazy high Def and Attack stats. It's pathetic, lazy design that screams that the Devs just gave up after 3U. Multiplauer was.the heart of the series, and the devs killed it by catering solo scrubs who complained about monster's increased health in Hub, not realizing that's part of the appeal of solo Hub. Fuck, the parallels to MMOs is just too much.

>Wilds heavy focus on plot is making people extremely annoyed of "Plot in MH".
>As result people will not give pic related a chance due to this growing dislike.
Fuck Wilds, indirectly ruining my fun Pokemon MH's chances of getting more games.

>>713352629
While nobody cares for the story, I still think Capcom thinks Wilds's success is because of the story
I think MHS3 is still possible; I would assume it would be in production during wilds development anyways

>>713352751
I want to believe that, but then we're talking about the same Capcom that shelved SF4 and hasn't given us a single MegaMan game in almost a decade.

>>713352751
It makes sense. World and Wilds are both the most story-focused MH games by far and broke sales records. Meanwhile, Rise went back to the standard gameplay focus of MH and sold considerably worse than World in comparison.

>>713353881
Which is incredibly ironic because Sunbreak ended up having one of the better stories in a MonHun game

wilds is unsalvageable

>>713348085
Lol no they fucking aren't. Did you even hunt the Emergency Apexes? Gore? Sure, Gore can be troublesome. To imply the others are "hard" now that they have more HP and slightly more damage with little to no changes in the fight is actually stupid. AT Rey Dau isn't even that hard compared to Emergency Apex Arzuros let alone Diablos or Zinogre.

>>713314806 (OP)
Once I got passed the initial 10 hour long story mode tutorial, the game got alright.

>>713353881
>Meanwhile, Rise went back to the standard gameplay focus of MH and sold considerably worse than World in comparison.
>MH Rise 17.1mil sales
>MH World 21.5mil sales
>Worldborne total 35mil sales
>Risebreak total 28mil sales

>significantly worse

Nata is basically pic related but done wrong, how Capcom could fuck up sp hard if they already have a perfect example.

>>713355065
SEX

>>713348545
I honestly didnt realize how unnecessary and trivial sharpening was until I randomly found an no sharpness decay mod
Hunts felt natural, no need to worry about sharpness micro or have to stop the hunt and run in circles with the dog, literally a "HOL UP BROTHA I GOTTA TIE MY SHOELACES", it feels good to just go and lock horns with the monsters like that, it really falls into place how sharpness itself (not sharpness level) is a trivial mechanic. Sure, managing EXCESS sharpness as a damage buff is a way to balance a weapon, but "sharpen or you just bonk/this one part is too hard for any weapon available at your rank and you and will bonk at unfortunate twists and turns from the monster" is just dumb, I believe the game has now enough name and budget to experiment with an alternative system that doesnt involve halting the flow of combat

>>713355065
plapplapplapplapplapplapplapplap

>>713355208
shut the fuck up

>>713355334
Great insight, anon

>>713354910
The MH community as a whole has been insistent that Rise was a colossal flop and a mistake for the past 4 years.

>>713345349
people tolerated it on release because they thought crapcom would fix things, now 4 months later things are the same or worse

>>713354910
>risebreak total 28m
damn what the fuck, capcom have been making bank this whole time and wilds releases in this state?

>>713315024
Nice try capjeet. There's no press X to look in World.

>>713352629
Actually I haven't touched Stories because of that faggot cat

>>713342354
>>713314806 (OP)
My only cope with Wilds is that i hated Rise but Sunbreak, so that might happen again once the expansion drops.

>>713354651
These threads are useless because the dedicated thread warrers can just go
>nuh uh X is harder
To anything no matter what. The new things are reasonably hard

>>713345349

Everyone was coping that even though the game alunched unfinished, they would add updates quickly, like witth Rise.

They didn't, in fact, their updates have been about... half as many as MHWorld, game also got boring very quick because it's that easy.

Also the optimization is ass and got WORSE after an update, so they haven't fixed that neither and there's a good chance they won't.

Somethign about the code in this game must be fucked up or MH team is just that bad optimizing, but yeah, shit just doesn't run well enough, I'0m confident the game would look amazing without terrible fps and terrible resolution and terrible anti soul gas but... it has all those things so we can go die.

>>713356884
Wilds suffers some the same issue as Rise did at launch - after World, R2make and DMC5s huge success investors and EGS/DEI went all in at Capcom. Rise was fucked by covid and system overhauls (due to Worlds success) forcing the game out early (remedied quickly in 3 months). Wilds is just a continuation of investor meddling and Capcoms insane greed and desire to be a Commiefornia giant.

>>713358382
IIRC someone here sat though the game's credits and a third of the people in there were saars

>>713356415
It sold like trash until it was in a bundle with World and Iceborne for 20 bucks.
Nobody plays Rise. Shut the fuck up tendie

>>713338475
Side shave fag should go fuck themselves

>>713315941
More or less this. Do I want to spend hours look at my adopted guardian twins and these woman or a shitty ugly boy with a (merchant) all having the same shit from the Handler in World?

>>713345349
>we're totally gonna fix the shitty performance in future updates
>update actually makes it even worse teehee

>>713338475
Gemma is only hot by the standards of World/Wilds characters

>>713338475
Gemma is ugly compared to all previous MH girls.

>>713323101
Base Rise is mediocre. Sunbreak is one of the best Monster Hunter experiences, especially if you just like fucking hunting things. Most of my friends tapped out of the game because we beat the story and the game just said
>congratulations
>now hunt a lot to unlock even more post-story content

>>713315364
If wilds was more monster fighter it may have been a good game. Wilds can't be following up on monster fighter when there's so many things in the way of just fighting the monster you want and the monsters can't fight back when you are allowed to play the game.
You massive retard.

After months of retard faggots praising that they are making more World instead of more Rise and they're making finally making World 2, you don't get to play revisionist just because you realized World's formula sucks. You got your living breathing world with intricate monster behaviours again, with less "arcade anime MMO cooldown garbage", and now you will deal with those repercussions.

>>713362105
Das more like it.

>>713315024
How you gonna out yourself like that as not having touched the game you are talking about

>>713319498
Brown hands

>>713341752
every single one of those things happens, down to the palico saying he's going to piss himself

>>713323101
Yeah. Then play the other games. The hoont never stops.

>>713321680
stfu niggerlover

>>713319448
haha!
le fun event quest!
haha!
le fun paid cosmetics!
haha!

>Oldfag MH1 player
>Saw all the things they were doing with World that were going to be a problem and try to tell /v/ and /mhg/ that this is going to go bad
>World sells millions
>See problems exacerbate more with Rise
>Wilds releases
>All the problems I had with World/Rise are even worse
>Get called bing bing wahoo by worldfags
>Get called Worldfag by Riseshitters
>Watch /v/ and /mhg/ lament MH's current state
I tried. You just didn't want to listen.

>>713323101
Yeah
Rise is much worse than World but it is a lot better than Wilds
Or you could get one of the good MH games if you havent played them yet

>>713324182
Are you the
>Just play wrong lol
fucking retard that is in every single fucking MH thread?

>>713341752
Oh look. A faggot that has not touched the game. Very exciting.

>>713367498
>Rise is much worse than World
It really isn't. If you took Rise's content and gave it World's graphical fidelity, and then did the opposite with World, the argument for which is better wouldn't even exist. Worldbabbies continue to be obnoxious fanboys entirely because they think that having cinematics, a tard handler, and muh believable ecology is what makes it a good Monster Hunter. The actual monster hunting aspect is one of the worst in the franchise, and the Gathering Lands is probably THE most cancerous form of post-game content Capcom has ever done.

>>713368274
It wasnt a question mong
I have played every MH since Freedom 2 and Rise was the worst MH ever made before Wilds came out

>>713338475
She looks like that faggot from that one show that has gene wilder's son or whatever

I have a 9800x3d and 4080 and wilds runs like shit unless you use DLSS or framegen. It is optimized badly. Rise runs silky smooth, or World.

>>713342125
>No MH game ever had those "hunting" aspects you faggots cream about
This.
Oldfags will unironically argue that old games had "actual hunting" because they had to paintball monsters and drink hot/cold drinks every once in a while.

>>713338475
She's from MH4 not original to Wilds

>>713369414

Monster Hunter never mimicked real hunting but at least it felt like you had to think and prepare a little, you had to bring the right items, know the right strategies to deal with a monster or an enviromental problem, you had to plan on gathering and farming the materials for needed items, use the right armors and weapons for the right monsters.

Now you kind of just get on the Seikret and kill the monster and then the monster just dies and move on to the next one it is, you don't have to find the monster, you don't have to do anything in special to make sure you don't lose it, weapons don't bounce off of armored monsters anymore, status ailments are a joke, the snowy area gives you free hot drinks so the mechanics is pointless... the list goes on.

>>713338784
I don't think they can do much about that. RE engine just wasn't made for giant areas like the game has. Though that doesn't excuse the horrible texture quality

>>713314806 (OP)
My friend sent me monster hunter world as gift. I've never played a MH game. Should I play this as my first experience or just find a ps2 rom for the 2004 MH game? I don't really like emulation but I don't want to taint my first time with the franchise either.

>>713369940
And you can bring two weapons now, don't forget that.

>>713341727
https://www.fanatical.com/en/dlc/monster-hunter-rise-sunbreak

>>713369496
She's not little miss forge anon

>>713369940
>you had to bring the right items
>muh hot and cold drinks

>know the right strategies to deal with a monster or an enviromental problem
No. Every monster has always been a hit it until it dies

>you had to plan on gathering and farming the materials for needed items
For the first hour or so until you unlock the farm and then you never have to worry about running out of stuff again.

>use the right armors and weapons for the right monsters
Bullshit. Every single monster could be defeated with the same weapon as long as it had enough raw. And in the same vein, long as you didn't use the fucking starting armor, you could get away with using any set you wanted.

You're either retarded or you never actually played the games.
The only point I will concede is how monsters are now show at all times and the games tell you when they're close to dead.
But it's not very different from old games where they literally spawned in the same areas.

>>713370423
>Caravaneer's Jacket
>Sophia's Kut-ku doll on her belt
Lol
Lmao

>>713370450
bruh I am not saying old Monster Hunter was some hyper complex survival ass puzzle game where you had to figure out esoteric shit to beat monsters, but it made you think and made you focus more than fuckg MHWilds does.

I've played MH3U, MH4U, and World, and I have seen MH do things that I like do things that I dislike and MHWilds went to with the simplification and casualization too fucking hard

>>713370310
I actually don't mind that, in fact, in the game it doesn't even seem helpful at all, only autism speedrun strategists may use that at all I think, because it's not like the game is tough enough to make you think about carrying weapons that cover each other's strengths and weaknesses

>>713369496
Funny how you've been trying so hard to push this narrative of Wilds being connected to MH4U to make people play your slop, but nobody cares.

>>713370450
back in the day, hitting Diablos' head made your weapon bounce.

I don't think I bounced off of Diablo even once in Wilds and Rise, and I didn't bounce off of Gravis in Wilds neither, I also never got paralyzed or stunned... they advertise Lala Barina as this venomous paralyzing spider but you have to hit her super easy to dodge flowers like 4 times in a row for it to affect you and you have to be retared on purpose for that to happen.

I can just tank the ice blight and the bleeding too in Wilds, Idgaf in that game lmao

>>713369940
>the snowy area gives you free hot drinks so the mechanics is pointless
It’s pointless anyway because adapt jewels exist and only take up a single one slot.

>>713370976
Not my point. Gemma is only memorable because she was in a past game. It's only loosely connected to 4U with Ace Lancer and Gemma being there. Wilds is dogshit and the first MH game I'm skipping after the demo did not impress me.

I love WorldBorne and i think it's a great game and the hatred it gets is underserved compared to RISE and Wilds

>>713371190
>Gemma is only memorable because she was in a past game.
See? You keep pushing that garbage. Nobody cares and nobody is going to play Wilds to find out whether it is true or not.

>>713371396
She's wearing the caravaneer's fucking jacket you fucking retard. It's the same fucking symbol on the back of the jacket
She has one of Sophia's dolls on her god damn belt
You are so fucking stupid kill yourself I'm not telling anyone to play wilds faggot. I'm only saying that people remember her because of her connection to 4U because if it was just some faggot pounding monster parts they'd also be forgettable
You are a fucking moron.

I miss my wife.

>>713371190
>Not my point. Gemma is only memorable because she was in a past game
SHE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE IN THE PAST GAME. THEY WESTERNIZED THE HELL OUT OF HER.

>>713372126
They want the american audience.

>>713372126
RE Engine'd

>>713372084
I love that his mods worked on NPCs and you could custom mixmatch pieces on them.

>>713372126
>cute body type
>easy on the eye
>just cute in general
>get Wild'd
>look like your generic Western Porn Game.
>shitty ugly side shaved cut
>muh realism
Anyone defending this change is a tranny.

>>713371941
Not him but go fuck yourself if you think the Wild version is an "upgrade". You fuckers cope on Gemma because she is the only "Good" looking bitch and she was a fucking downgrade of her original self.

>>713372881
>if you think the Wild version is an "upgrade"
Did I ever say that in any of my posts? You're just as much of a stupid fucking mongoloid as that other anon but I suspect you're samefagging to save face. You shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

>>713373089
I don't give a shit when you keep pushing Gemma as your cope that WILD ZE GOOD when every single character is shit and Gemma is downgraded. No amount of pushing GEMMA IS HOT PLAY WILD when that point doesn't work. Gemma is an ugly looking bitch and your cope is gone

>she's bad because she's an adult now and can reject my advances
okay

Wilds is to Monster Hunter what soundcloud rap is to music.

>>713371941
>look at this hag with the dyke haicut, shes actually that girl from that old monhun game, i swear, please play my slop
Nope.

>If you don't like this ugly western looking bitch with side shaved, youre a virgin!
Wildfags, everyone.

Wilds:
>here's a quest to hunt a monster
>depart
>hunt monster
>good work, here's 4 more quests to hunt monsters that you can accept in any order before hunting a bigger monster

>>713373301
I say in two of my posts that wilds was shit. And that I didn't even play it, only the demo
I never said Gemma was hot. Only that she's memorable because she was in 4U
You have actual brain damage.
>>713373496
As do you.

>>713373620
And its such a shitty example to push forward. What a hill to die on.

>>713373620
Anon how many times do they have to obviously keep pretending that you’re shilling for wilds before you realize they’re blatantly baiting you? You’re giving them the sperg out they want.

>>713373827
I'm not shilling that fuck awful game

>>713314806 (OP)
RiseBreak:
>Hunting Horn is a Fisher Price toy that got a couple of new melodies added to the pool and a universal Attack Up L
>Despite picking up other weapons for soloing I still played HH most because I played with friends and Lunagaron's Sharpness Up melody allowed my DB & SwAxe friends to go full retard
Wilds:
>Hunting Horn takes the very few things that worked from Wilds (except drawing without attacking what the fuck) and adds them to World's setup, making it the best HH in the series
>All the bullshit you said about the game's structure (and the performance) still apply so I still put less time into Wilds than Rise

My monkey paw had a finger curl bros.

>>713372881
I wonder how wildfags would cope if they didn't have gemma. Every single character in the game is ugly as a sin.

>>713371267
World is the most beloved game in the series. The fuck you on about hatred?

wilds let you literally just go out there and hunt, and never really have to come back to the village
I guess rise children need to be told what to do all the time I guess

>>713373880
>SHE IS FROM A GEN4 THAT MEAN YOU SHOULD LIKE WILD IF YOU LIKE GEN4!
lol. lmao

>>713373590
This literally never happens at any point in Wilds. There is one single point where the story opens up, and it's before you leave the Windward Plains for the first time. There's only two monsters there at the time. For the entire rest of low rank, you're going from story beat to story beat fighting each monster in sequence, all the way until high rank. At that point it's not "four monsters in any order you want" before unlocking the next Urgent, it's grinding Hunter Rank (if you hadn't already met the thresholds because of how much HRP they give you).

>>713369414
It's not about what they had, it's about how the games should have developed over time. The games started with a few token "hunting" aspects and it was kind of hard to find monsters sometimes. You would think they'd evolve the formula from there, as technology and budgets improved. Instead, they removed what little hunting there was.

>>713314806 (OP)
It truly is mindblowing that anyone played defense for this embarrassing shit. I've played every MonHun since Tri, and I couldn't even force myself to finish the base game with Wilds. Absolute trash.

>>713374425
Did you finish Iceborne or sunbreak?

>>713374080
not by mh vets its not

>>713374080
most beloved by newfaggots

>>713373991
No, World HH is still the best in the series. HH should be about hitting the enemy, not stacking bubbles and stocking up resources to do a big combo. With the original World HH, there still weren't many mechanics, and encores were still weak and clunky enough that they weren't always the best attack 100% of the time.

I guess it's a toss-up between that and GU. It depends whether you prefer your recitals and encores to actually be stronger than regular attacks, or just additional attacks you can get in for style points while you upkeep your songs.

>>713374080
>wilds is so bad it makes anons think world is the most beloved game
One thing is sure, World is superior to Wilds.

>>713374609
By pure numbers alone that's at least half of all hunters.

>>713374721
A lot of people buy funko pops
Doesn't make them good

That's why i drop World after 1 hour

>worldjeets shit endlessly on rise because of no muh "hunting"
>wilds is worse in this aspect
>suddenly the "hunting" doesn't matter and was always bad
I'm just glad snoyjeet trannies get a taste of their own medicine

>>713372881
I fucking hate the side shave like you wouldnt believe

>>713374805
Everyone outside of your headcanon agreed Wilds is worse than both Rise and World.

>>713374909
seething

4U > 3U > FuckU > Pturd > XX > Worldsborn > Risebreak >>>>>>>>>>> a pile of dog shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebola mixed with super aids >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wilds

>>713372881
>wholesome character turned into a dyke looking bitch
Who are they appealing to again?

>>713374680
It's the only MH that /v/ decided was immune from criticism just because it didn't launch on a particular portable platform.

>>713374805
MH should've just been PC out of the gate. Snoy and Shitendofags are a blight.

>>713374486
Never played either one. Rise and World were alright, I liked Rise a little more. Neither of them were as good as anything from Tri through GU for me, though. I haven't felt compelled to go deep into endgame or play any kind of DLC for the games since GU and prior.

>>713375035
based af, but GU should be tied with 4u for best

>>713314806 (OP)
Rise was the beginning of the end.
Capcom simply doubled down on Rise's shitty design choices even after it greatly underperformed compared to World.

After World did the unthinkable and made MH mainstream, Capcom thought "Wow, World surely sold a lot, maybe we should make it MORE mainstream?"
Then after Rise failed to meet expectations: "Wow, maybe it wasn't mainstream enough!"

>>713375649
I suggest trying out sunbreak, at least. The roster is pretty great, it drop the rampage mode, and the Follower system is nice for players that want multiplayer without the player part while diving into waifu territory.

>>713367323
Its ok when world did it

>>713375035
I liked 4U but I fucking hated the playerbase. Nintendo players are dogshit at games.

>>713375939
Every problem people bitch about Wilds is directly influenced by World.

>>713315024
World wasn't as egregious with this shit. The tripled down on Wilds

Capcom needs to stop trying to flesh out the weapons more, they're fleshed out enough. Give us new types of weapons instead or at least go back to styles. Styles gave each weapon way more life than adding a new move and messing with the mechanics.

>>713376331
Accel axe, Memerang, and tonfa never ever

>>713374294
Nta but low rank is literally just a tutorial and high rank is structured like that. People getting mad about nothing, you can’t even access the hub until you clear low rank

>>713374805

I thought Worldjeets were the most dissapointed if anything because World introduced all the monsters leaving tracks and marking their territory and shit and I found that so cool when the game first showed it, it got kind of annoying when doing it too much in the final game but still, so weird that now monsters are just permanently on the map, there's no risk of losing them at all and having to go find them and give a reason to move through the map and wonder where they could go and what areas they may frequent.

>>713376613
Its because if they werent on the map itd be a half hour headache of checking every map by hand for a monster and hoping theres one.

Rise CHADS wonned.
How many times have we gone through this?
Rise (Classic) fans were and WILL always be right.

>>713375939
On the contrary, the people behind Wilds often pretended Rise didn't even exist. They didn't acknowledge it at all. Every shitty design decision came as an evolution of what they did in World. For example, people like to point to the Palamute as inspiration for the Seikret, but they don't mention the Palamute in any interviews for the game. It's actually an evolution of the Tailriders mechanic from World. They even praised themselves for coming up with the idea.

>>713376417
Bring back Bowgun components

>>713376780
It's like as if World dev never look at Portable team and sniff at their own fart, while Portable look at what Worlds dev did, and either did the opposite of what they did, or take a good feature from the World dev and did it better

>>713377034
>instead of collecting tracks you collect bing bugs

>>713340990
Too retarded? Fucking thank God that never came to be

>>713345349
The Akuma collab update was insulting

>>713345349
People predictably got over the honeymoon phase and the recent update literally made the game run worse on some graphic cards for seemingly no reason. I also imagine a lot of those reviews comes from people who realized they paid $80 for a MH game that looks and runs worse than World and will most likely never be fixed.

>>713376762
Who is this sex demon?

Miss me euro companions.

>>713338475
Ugly as fuck

>>713380838
>muh realism

>>713314806 (OP)

any rooms

>>713380745
Tsukino from monhun stories.

>>713380745
Tsukino from Rise

>>713381581
Now I'll play your game.

>>713381705
>From Rise
Being a DLC crossover costume doesn't make her from that game

>>713381975
Tell that to my dick while she moans during the hunt.

>>713382050
The tsukino outfit is kind of lame though cause the face isn't animated, so it just looks like a mask.

>>713373991
>>713374679
Hunting Horn is best in Rise because it actually makes people want to play the fucking weapon for once. It gives you the buffs but still encourages you to get up in the monster's face to do (very respectable) damage. World HH just encourages people to stand in the back and play their songs safely so they can get the encore off. There comes a time when Worldbabs need to understand that it wasn't a miserable amount of deliberate "clunk" that made the classics so good, it was that you had to commit to actions and not get punished by the monster's attacks. Rise still has that, but just without the useless dancing in place while you buff the party.

>>713382337
Honestly I just love the breakdancing. They couldve kept it's old mechanics without changing the weapon. I hate how nerfed it got in the full release vs Rise demo.

>>713382050
Awooga!

>>713376762
>a cat is hotter than wilds main girl
The absolute state of wilds.

G Rank won't save Wilds.

It's literally over.

>>713384459
Wilds bros?

>>713383739
arent cat sexier and voiced in Wild? Wouldn't catfags want that over tsukino?

>>713384459
they clearly rushed the shitty base game to put all the juicy stuff in the $70 G rank haha

>>713384459
Can we downsize and lower the scope of the game and focus the budget on hunting monsters and making the engine work?

>World and Rise sell something like 70m copies cumulatively
>already reached the biggest audience MH could have ever hoped to reach
>for some reason Capcom believes there is another huge untapped audience
>design and balance Wilds with only newcomers in mind, alienating not only oldfags but even world babies

The fucking strangest thing about this delusion is that a lot of people on socials were agreeing with this, saying that MH still needed to break in the mainstream like ER. Insanity.

>>713385596
Maybe instead of DLC they could make it a separate game like how the expansions used to work. Leave the original Wilds to rot and release a new version of it entirely. Give owners of the original a discount on the digital version so it only costs as much as the exoansion normally would as DLC.

>>713386028
It's called corpobrain
The line must always go up, no matter the cost

>>713386028
Its not a strange decision at all.
Wider audience = More money
Devs and publishers are risk adverse and lowering the barrier of entry is the most sensible thing to do. next on the chopping block is sharpening and eating before a hunt.
Anything that causes friction for the player is seen as bad.
For all the complaints, they still sold 10m units easy and they'll do at least half of that for the expansion. Not to mention all the people shelling out for MTX regardless.

>>713386093
Never happening until MH starts to bomb they got retards with Gen/Gen U World/iceborne Rise/Sunbreak. Add to that a lot of things that were free now chopped up into Paid DLC. This is the third time Capcom has gone down this route and faggots still keep supporting them. At least MHfags opened their eyes to their bullshit faster than REcucks

>>713386520
>For all the complaints, they still sold 10m units easy and they'll do at least half of that for the expansion. Not to mention all the people shelling out for MTX regardless.

I highly doubt selling less than half of what World did is a success in their eyes. Especially when a lot of MH revenue was keep selling in the long run.

>>713386934
No yeah I agree, its clearly had terrible legs. 8m week 1 and 10m over a month later means sales fell hard due to bad WoM.
Same thing led to DD2 DLC getting scrapped along with its MP mode but that won't happen here.
With even the suits asking about Wilds and the complaints they're hearing maybe something will be done but that's all at the whims of the future.

>>713314806 (OP)
>>hunter, let's go say hello to the local brown people!
opinion immediately discarded

>>713386934
It was 8m in 3 days
And hoenstly I'd be curious to see the 2m distribution over the month. Like if most copies were sold in the days/week after release, and then took a month to sell the rest

>>713385475
Cats from Wilds are annoying.

>>713382337
This is a truly horrible opinion. Songs are attacks so you're encouraged to swing at the monster and have the front of the horn on the monster's head while you doot. Buffs are trivial to maintain and you shouldn't be thinking about them like that, you should be thinking of songs as swings and part of your moveset. Iceborne doubled down on this with echo waves that are explicitly songs meant to deal damage instead of buff. Even if you corner horn you can have all of the buffs up in no time so it makes no sense to imply you're meant to be in a corner for most of the hunt. You fundamentally misunderstood the core mechanic and praised Rise because it automates it for you, at the expense of making the weapon incredibly one note haha which is why hardly anyone cares about the weapon in late Sunbreak

idk if i dislike sns in wilds more than i dislike ib sns

i feel like pr was somehow more mechanically interesting than spamming lateral loop over and over

>>713374679
>Noooo there is more to the weapon than swinging it a few times for self improvement and then using the super pound

I swear 90% of complaints about the new games always comes back to "it raised the skill cap on my weapon and I don't like being left behind"
HOWEVER IG in Wilds is retarded shitass controls for it.

>>713314806 (OP)
>>meow, i nearly shat my fur, LOL!
really?

>>713382337
>Hunting Horn is best in Rise
>commit to actions
>Rise HH still has that
Please kys. It's thanks to shit taste niggers like you that we end up with trash changes to weapons exactly like Rise HH.

>>713385584
>Rushed to put out an incomplete game to meet corporate greed
>Incomplete product floats somewhere between 40%-60% finished for clearly established expectations of fanbase
>Successor to your highest selling product ever
>Think the same greedy decision makers will make up for it by having glorified DLC expac have 120% content
A literal snowball's chance in hell. They had 7 years of dev time and couldn't even decide a decent level besides the fucking forest.

>>713390535
They took the players for granted. They know the players will buy whatever they sell.

>all wilds title updates will just be mid shitmons (mizu, lagi and steve are not end game lmao)
>all wilds G updates will follow the same suite, we will get base narga, base tigrex, base zinogre as title updates lmao

>>713391758
B-but the comestics? Think about the cosmetics!

Why are you still seething about Wilds?

>>713391758
endgame is just based on numbers

if lagi hits hard, has a ton of hp, has retard framedata on his moves and has overtuned gear, he will be an endgame mon

capcom has a million flimsy reasons to justify monsters being strong or weak at anytime, just say they drank a lot of wylk and a jaggi could be on the level of a black dragon if they felt like it

>>713314806 (OP)
you cant seriously be nostalgia posting about risebreak when all the majority of players shat on it during its life cycle

>>713392647
it's a shit game

>>713392983
>a lot of wylk
Oh yeah, the dragon milk, I still cannot believe this is real.

>>713392983
It's fucking weird people say stuff like what you're responding to when GORE MAGALA certified shitmon is generally agreed to be the hardest monster in this game.

>>713392647
Because I was retarded and bought the game on release expecting to get World 2 (a game I've put 600+ hours into) but instead I got Wilds (a game I've put 70 hours into and don't see myself putting in much more)

RAMPAGES WERE FUN

FIGHT ME.

> t. Ibushi theme enjoyer

>>713394167
You had to TRY to fail rampages, even solo. Rampages needed more time in the oven.

You missed the whole subplot about how we and the monster are really one of the same and they only do what they do to survive while little pajeet insist he and caníbal wyvern are like the same dude.
I really don't understand why capcom focused so much in the aspect absolutely no one is gonna care about, and actively makes the game harder to recommend to friends since low rank is such a slog and they do the same stupid shit of locking missions behind sandbox exploration as world did.
Just go back to the old key quest system

>>713341035
>Unhinged mobility with either blast dash or long backhops from neutral if you want to charged shell
>Full guard on wyvern fire turns it into an offensive move meant to say fuck you to a monster getting uppity and push them over a stagger threshold
>Sharpness management with the counter silkbind (giving GL a sharpness counter basekit without the cooldowns instead of toning back the sharpness loss like wilds did would be nice)
Wilds GL being strong is such a monkey's paw because it's so braindead in that game and lost its identity as the weapon that on paper doesn't do as much damage but is really good at putting that damage into an active monster with its brawling ability

Brawling is also the reason why I wish surge slash+rage slash GS comes back because turning GS into a "trade health for big hits with hyperarmor" is so much more fun than trying to snipe charge slashes against the faster monsters in new games and multiplayer monster AI, but I will admit I didn't play that much GS before rise (aside from using it to tell Rajang to fuck off)

>>713323101
Go for it, especially if you haven't played Generations. The wirebug is returning for sure on the Switch Monhun (directed by the Portable team) that will come out a few years after the Wilds G expansion. It's a really fun mechanic that encourages exploration that wasn't done before in the series. It's also one of my dreams come true after playing Breath of the Wild where I wanted universal Climbing in Monhun. The Wirebug gave me that outlet.

In fact, I'm just remembering that I've always thought the wirebug was hands down the best innovation of the Monster Hunter series that solved so many problems at once.

> An evolution to MH4's vertical play
> Repackages Hunter Arts to make them feel natural to the Monster Hunter setting and not out of place anime super moves
> FINALLY makes mounting fun after it being introduced with MH4 and Capcom stubbornly keeping it despite no one liking it
> Super fun to use and allows developers to design maps for exploration and let them be creative in creating routes to the monster


The complaints about the Wirebug are just balancing problems of it making the hunter too powerful with the wirefall or spammy with the timer on the silkbind attacks. Execution problems are easy to fix. Conceptually flawed problems, those are tough to solve but that's not the wirebug's problem. To fix the Wirebug I'd:

> No timer for Silkbind attacks, you have to attack to build up meter
> Using a wirefall as an escape after being hit resets your meter
> There will be a timer for using wirebugs for movement after you sheathe like normal


Boom, problem solved.

>>713394938
>Boom, problem solved.
Or they could just get rid of the shitty wirebugs, boom, problem solved!

>>713394336
I wish they committed to working on Rampages. Mounting was hot fucking garbage for almost a decade. Rampages is a fun concept. Why didn't they (the Sunbreak director) build upon it?

>>713395727
whats ur beef with wirebugs that wasn't addressed in my post?

>>713395727
Congratulations anon, the wirebugs were removed in Wilds! Now the players have even more power compared to the monsters and there's nothing even remotely holding it back. Great idea moron, what's your next big idea? 10 minute walk n talk cutscenes for 5 minute hunts?

>>713395815
honestly the only thing missing was apex monsters havjng weapon, armor, updated master rank moveset, and huntable by themselves with hazard versions instead of being relegated to anomaly investigation side monsters, imagine a hazard apex zinogre, holy fuark

>>713395815
It'd be cool if the rampages were implemented completely differently. Having emplacements is cool, but instead of tower defense against 30 monsters I wish it were something like a simultaneous fight against 4 or so monsters at once with all but one of them being repel-able so you're forced into a short bout of multi-monster chaos before whittling their numbers down into a single monster hunt for better rewards.
It's vaguely the idea they were going for but they tacked so much bullshit onto it that it's barely monster hunter at all. Would also be cool if they made a new elder dragon with a siege style hunt that starts with a rampage in the above style so there's a valid reason to actually use weapon emplacements to thin the herd and actually fight the elder, then switch to hunting the elder dragon and only return to siege weaponry when shit like dragonators are ready or maybe if it can call more monsters mid fight

I'm uninstalling wilds once TU2 drops, I need to see with my own eyes if they massacre my boy Lagi or made him at least a better fight than in GU
After that just forget wilds exists for a long while

>>713315364
Rise is a spin off, it's meant to be experimental you dumb fucking ape. Complaining about a spin off trying different formulae values is retarded, the problem is when they're backported to mainline in the wrong quantities.

And anyway, the NPCs and village aesthetic in Rise was fantastic.

>>713315414
It looks like

>>713315941
Yup

>>713394938
Didn't read your post but I've been looking for those Rise demo Magnamalo cat edits for ages, thanks for posting that one.

>>713394336
I did in my first time, but that because I did Hub mission before I did story mission.

>>713394938
>> FINALLY makes mounting fun after it being introduced with MH4 and Capcom stubbornly keeping it despite no one liking it
But it didn't. They arguably made it worse since the mounting is automatic and triggers the mounting stagger. Not to mention you also can't really avoid it. Even if you refuse to use wirebugs and jump attacks, every now and then the monsters will fight eachother for no reason just so you get a free mount. In previous games you can reasonably ignore it if you don't like it.

>>713315941
Rise characters look like classic monster hunter characters and Wilds characters look like modern vidya slop chararcters.

>>713397121
m8 it's just going to be rice ludroth + khezu lmao, don't get your hopes up

>>713397415
Rise isn't a spinoff, and none of the portable entries have even been remotely as experimental as the home console ones.

>>713398042
On the contrary, rise is the ONLY MH since mounting was introduced where mounting ISN'T automatic. Every other MH with mounting just instantly telepoets your ass once the threshold is reached.
You also conveniently ignored the option to disable attacks initiating the mount that's been in the game since SB dropped. As of SB, Rise is the only MH where mounting can be completely disabled on an individual player basis.

>>713398320
>Rise isn't a spinoff
It sure is

Meh

>>713398693
Yeah you're going to have to prove that it's officially regarded as on the same level as diaries or stories.

>>713335958
preparation is gameplay, cutscenes are not, you nigger

>>713399051
Stories is less of a spin off than Rise.
At least Stories if mainline of it's own series.

>>713400386
Man, Stories is so good and Kayna is such a hottie. Its a shame the games didnt get the love they deserve.

what's people's obsession with world? is it because they got into mh with it? shit's a visual mess, graphics are smeared, base world is possibly one of the worst games in the franchise, iceborne is ok for the most part and it's only because they went a bit extra with the returning monsters, giving them a new coat of paint making them fun to hunt but the whole system of the big open map with a bunch of flies going around and uninteresting level design and the shittiest art direction in the series before wilds is not impressive at all
also clutch claw stinks

>>713400460
>and Kayna is such a hottie
BROTHER

>>713400950
Iceborne IS World.

Nobody plays base World 1.0 release retard.

You lost. Get lost.

What's wrong with letting minorities and brown people having more representation and giving them speaking roles?

This game sold well because it actually had a STORY!!!

The only gamers that want instant gameplay loops are CoD players

>>713401381
I dont mind a story but if they want to have an immersive story, then they need to treat indigenous tribes as if they were actual tribes. Reclusive, weary, aggresive, anything that isn't just this 1-note open arms friendliness.

>>713401381
Tell me you have never played MH without telling me you have never played MH.

>>713401219
Kayna my beloved.

>>713401381
Shut up, Ryozo.

>>713401381
This. The chuds are malding over the game selling well for having a story and letting one or two minorities being allowed to speak.

>>713398042
Anon, in Gen 4, when you trigger a mount, you all have to sit and wait for the guy to finish. You could go atttack the monster in Generations but you do no damage and would waste sharpness.

With Rise, either you bash in the wall and hop off, bash 3 times and hop off. Or go bash into another monster and mount them. Or take the monster to a better location where there are environmental traps or where your teammates are. Takes 3 seconds or you can use it tactically.

What the fuck are you complaining about? Did you play Gen 4? In what fucking world would Gen 4 be preferable to this?

I'd accept the complaint of turf wars ruining the sense of danger of having multiple monsters in the same location, but mechanically speaking SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>713402478
>controlling the monster like a puppet and making it fight other monsters to get free damage
That shit is anything but monster hunter.

>>713401947
She deserves more fan art

>>713403131
Typo drew two scrumptious and exquisite pictures of Kayna not long ago.

>>713314806 (OP)
I would take everything you memed about wilds over having to collect fucking spiritbirds in Rise

>>713400460
>>713401219
Most of the girls in Stories are pretty good looking. Even some of the NPC ones.

>>713384459
It will at least be a lot better than this shit. GRank might make the game better. Sunbreak saved Rise. They just really have to step it up with the expansion and have a good endgame type of loop too

>>713403381
>needing birds
lmao, birds are completely unnecessary until high level 270+ anomalies where you have arena quest for max birds anyway so lol

>>713401381
>This game sold well because it actually had a STORY
this game sold because it had monster hunter in the name, frogposter
it got refunded, because it had dogshit inside
it will not turn a profit

>>713403620
>all mhs girls are either cute or hot
Why can't we have good looking girls in modern mh games again?

>>713403661
But how will G rank fix the poor performance and ugly art style?

>>713400460
This is my wife. Say something nice about her.

>>713404123
It wont, but the gameplay will be a little better at least

>>713400950
World was baby's first MH

>>713404361
She's cute!

>all those seething worldfags and wildfags ITT
kek

>>713394167
>remove rampage
>best HH in the game become dogshit
i'm still mad

>>713405339
Why didn't they even bother making new Horns with the same songs? They knew the Rampage Horns weren't getting MR upgrades, so they could have at least made Master Rank equivalents.

>>713345992
>>713387386
How is this in any way incorrect? Every single group of human natives in Wilds is either brown (the people in the plains, the people in the basin) or multi-ethnic. The Wyverians are obviously Wyverians, so they don't count one way or the other. The post doesn't even say anything racist, it just says that the game forces these tribal people into the story as if anyone cares about them or their culture. Oh boy, wind chimes. Thrilling stuff.
You're projecting racism where this is none.

>>713405468
i'm about to say no fun allowed, but GL exist

https://x.com/renta523/status/1932380227407372611
they should make bullet customization, it will make HBG, LBG, and bow 100% more fun

>>713401381
>minorities
That sure will help them sell more games.

>>713315024
You can't skip cutscenes in world, try harder next time retard

>>713315414
Pretty much.

>>713390535
>We could have had a super unique map fighting in that frozen over ancient city with a bunch of cathedrals and other man-made structures over-run by monsters
>They choose to make the most generic set of ice caves instead

>>713408516
>you don't get to see any of the actual city unless you purposefully decide to do the walking zone transition between iceshard/wyveria/suja
kinda hilarious lmao

>>713393448
>Drinking wyvern's milk makes you more powerful

Where is the tit on the wyvern that I can suck from to become more powerful?

>>713409241
You have to buy the dlc to get it.

>worldbabs shitting on risebabs shitting on wildsbabs
You're all the problem

I hope Sunbreak gets a Switch 2 patch.

No wirefall = no buy

>>713410426
Gimme that 60 fps so I can just play my 450 hr switch file instead of my 120 hr pc file.

>>713404361
I want to repopulate an entire village with her.

>>713410740
Johnny Bravo's timing for panty shots is spectacular.

>>713411165
it's something else

I remember when Barroth was a big fuckin' deal and a filter....

>>713315941
This.

>>713406330
100% more guide-based and overpowered*

>>713319364
Why is that even titled tendies?

>>713323101
The first 3 replies are just retards, get Rise and Sunbreak.

>>713336158
Killstealing jobber.

>>713397121
I mean all they would need to do is improve on Ivory Lagi's moveset.
Because we all know Underwater isn't coming back so they may as well just improve that.

>>713347539
Absolutely delusional. Your responisible for this shitcake so eat it up

>>713397121
His main draw is underwater combat. He's one of the most overrated monsters without that.

>>713404361
Cutie pie.

>>713394167
They should have made specific herd monster instead of random shit mons or even better a siege fight.

>>713323101
Generations Ultimate.

>>713403802
If they are unnecessary why are they in the game? Makes them doubly retarded.

>>713347539
Wilds is exactly World 2, it's more of what you wanted unskippable cutscenes, annoying handler, easy fights, small roster, turf wars.

>>713376762
The designers knew what they were doing.

>>713411696
Why did itchynose put Shimapan in monster hunter rise?

>>713331154
How can wilds compete with this?

>>713315414
yup sadly..

>>713420067
he based

wilds design philosophy is rotten to the core, so it doesn't matter how much content they add.
but what's even worse is that it literally has the worst maps in the series history. I guess this fucking garbage is what you end up when you add fast travel and automatic mobile game steering to your game. all incentive to make environments navigable by the PLAYER gets thrown out.

What I miss from world is the environment interactivity, you can run up the wall to do some cool jumping attack or lead some monster ramming into wall, Rise and Wild are just 100% brooling

>>713400386
Yeah you aren't posting any proof. You're just seething that Rise exists.

>>713374679
World HH was one of the better iterations, but kek no. Wilds was so close to fixing HHs only problem that is encouraging the player to play songs.

Just remove the shitty bubbles and bring back infernal melody and Wilds HH would be nigh perfect.

>>713382337
nice bait

>>713394167
Kunitsu Gami is what rampages should've been. Too easy and too scripted

>>713394938
>no timer, going back to hunter arts
fuck no. Status and stun already sucks ass for the fact that you know exactly how many times you can apply it during quest.
>Using a wirefall as an escape after being hit resets your meter
changes nothing
>There will be a timer for using wirebugs for movement after you sheathe like normal
Using wirebugs for movement was never an issue. In fact you just killed the only use case Capcom could think up to use it in a fight (Narwa)
Worst fucking suggestions I heard for trying to *fix* Wirebugs, hands down.

In a down to earth MH game wirefall shouldn't exist, but if you want to fix it, just generally increase cooldown for bugs and give monsters more option to punish you for using it, add like a status that locks bugs/wirefall.
Capcom should've done way more with the utilizing vertical movement into fights (Rise lacks layered maps like 4U, or monsters where you can stand on like Jhen/Zorah)

Wyvern riding sucks because its forced and perfectly safe.

rise sucks

>>713423375
Wyvern riding is the least forced of all the mounting mechanics in MH so far.

>>713425813
>monster walks 20 kilometers across the map to fart on your quest target
>It becomes immediately a drooling retard for 20 seconds
>just hitting it activates wyvern riding, no reasonable way to avoid it
>Engage in a minigame that has absolutely no risk or penalty involved for failing in any way
>your teammates can do nothing productive while you do it
>fighting is always just dodge->attack->dodge->attack->dodge->attack->
>You get guaranteed shinies for just a few hits and a finisher
>you get a guaranteed knockdown or another free ride
>the other monster immediately fucks off once that circus concludes

old mounting had you ledge spam to even trigger it, unless you were using the specific mounting stick.

>>713426318
>>713398563

>>713422682
Wilds HH is just diet sugar-free ice cream version of what we had in GU and World. The way they gutted Melody mode into a bubble-spamming rhythm game just shows they have no idea what made HH fun in the first place. Infernal Melody brought identity and style — now it's just “press X to feel like you’re contributing.”

And yeah, Kunitsu Gami straight-up mogs Rampage mode. That flow, the coordination, everything Rampage wanted to be without the tedium of tower defense autism. I still can't believe Capcom doubled down on that garbage in Rise’s updates instead of ditching it and making better siege fights like Gog or Lao.

>>713423375
>fuck no. Status and stun already sucks ass for the fact that you know exactly how many times you can apply it during quest.

That's completely irrelevant to changing silkbind attacks so that you have be aggressive and attack the monster consistently to trigger them instead of just waiting. Status and stun are a separate issue, just raise threshold to trigger damage or something from them. Problem solved.

>changes nothing
Yes it does. It means you miss out on DPS if you panic wirefall as opposed to taking the hit, and picking yourself up. You can toss in a threshold where the Wirefall is available on top of that.

>Using wirebugs for movement was never an issue. In fact you just killed the only use case Capcom could think up to use it in a fight (Narwa)
Not at all, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. What we have now is a timer for wirebug usage which is for either movement, wirefall, or silkbind attacks. I'm separating them. Wirebug usage for movement is the same as base Risebreak. Silkbind attacks and Wirefall have a gauge ala hunter arts.

>>713423375
>In a down to earth MH game wirefall shouldn't exist, but if you want to fix it, just generally increase cooldown for bugs and give monsters more option to punish you for using it, add like a status that locks bugs/wirefall.

You call my suggestion the worst thing ever and then you suggest a cooldown increase? You ding dong ignoramus, the gauge build up forces the player to have to engage with the monster to do super cool attacks and not panic wirefall when getting hit. How does yours encourage more monster interactions? And they have a status that slows a wirebug recharge timer, the ice blight. Just use it more.

>>713426318
my fucking god, hit a wall and be done with it. You guys need to replay 4/Generations. No fucking retard would choose those versions of mounting over Rise's own.

>>713401336
you still have to go through base world to get to iceborne
and iceborne is still a visual mess with smeared graphics and clutch claw which is the most boring mechanic in any of the mh games

>>713408516
>>713408915
>we could fight monsters in decadent streets, old market squares, huge buildings and rooftops among the towers
>explore the little shops and houses for materials and secrets, now overtaken by ice and monsters
>see Jin moving in the streets and wrapping around towers
>nah lmao fuck that here's some cramped areas and random ice caves that look monotone grey 80% of the time

Unironically the biggest wasted potential for a map in the entire series
They went from a 10/10 idea to a shitty and boring 3/10 execution

>>713427583
>that you have be aggressive and attack the monster consistently to trigger them instead of just waiting.
not it doesn't, won't, shan't.
It doesn't matter if you hit the monster 500 times in 10min or 45min. You get the same amount skill bar buildup. Maybe you are thinking about MP were you compete for the number of hits.
>miss out on dps when wirefalling
you already do this, but only speedrunner will notice the difference.
>you are misunderstanding
you literally said "there will be a timer for using wirebugs for movement after you sheath"
there is nothing to misunderstand here, maybe you failed to write what you meant.
The fact that its a shared resource is the only reason the game punishes you in any way for spamming wirebug based skills, even if its miniscule. The cooldown is often so little that you never run out of Wirebugs.

>forcing you to engage with the monster
what else are you supposed to do, wait for the monster to die from old age?
Ice is a nothingburger, generally status/blights in Rise are a joke.

I can understand people hating cooldown skills, but wanting the arts system back at the same time is mind numbing.

>>713426318
>just hitting it activates wyvern riding, no reasonable way to avoid it
You can literally turn it off.

APOLOGIZE

>>713428549
go play Wild Hearts. It lets you fight a monster in a Pagoda, in abandoned villages and even in a populated village. Movement isn't restricted but still feels somewhat grounded unlike Wirebugs.

The Musou fags somehow have solved first try what Capcom still struggles with after 3 attempts.
Good for Capcom that WH failed, because they can be as lazy as ever with having no competition in over 20 years now.

>>713323101
Rise is harder than Worlds and has different monsters so I do recommend it to you

>>713429528
Wild Hearts is so fucking good, its a shame EA published and ruined it

>>713429528
I played Wild Hearts and enjoyed it. It definitely had a solid selection of maps.
Too bad the optimization was terrible and the marketing nonexistent, the game had a ton of potential, especially considering it was the first in the series.

>>713429528
>wild hearts dead
>dauntless dead
>god eater dead
>bunch of indie hunting games released already dead
>that hunting game M$ was developing is prob cancelled since the devs are helping on halo
>the only somewhat related game coming out is the multiplayer Horizon game
>and now Wilds shits the bed big time

Grim as fuck

What's wrong with a game having a story? Do you feel the need to kill something "just because"? What's the incentive? People aren't just going around killing things for the fun of it. You NEED a reason.

>>713314806 (OP)
Rise sucks deal with it

>>713430725
>What's the incentive
the gear? Fucking retard.

>>713430091
>>bunch of indie hunting games released already dead
Like what?

>>713429458
I never disliked her. She even looks hot with alternative outfits

>>713426318
*raises paw*
if you played the game you'd frequently find that everyone in the room has monster riding completely turned off and just uses the state as a quick damage opportunity

>>713429458
The Twins >>>>> Alma > this bitch

>>713408516
This is basically asking to be a G-Rank hunting locale

My biggest problem with the game is that most of the characters look like they know what a starbucks is. Also its a fucking atrocity that the palicos have the option of human speech. Absolutely vile.
>no endgame content
>no grind for materials
>29 monsters
>only 29
I havent played much since i got to the endgame and realized thats all there was to do.

>>713394938
Wirefall is not broken, you have the same exact effect in World with stun slingshot projectiles, which are arguably broken in competent hands

>>713433290
>>713429041
anon its a opt-in setting only introduced in SB and it doesn't prevent monsters making other monster ridable.
It's as forced as a mounting can be (all you have to do is just avoid aerial attacks).

Gen at least fixed the issue of teammates just standing around and then World and Rise brought back that exact same flaw.
Riding sucks because its forced (scripted), safe and fighting on monster is braindead. It has potential, but Capcom never fixes their gimmicks

>>713314806 (OP)
The same shit turned me off from World when I was trying to just hunt some fucking monsters with friends, but oh No, You need to follow the cinematic story instead of just hunting monsters

>>713434032
agreed
wirefall is a way to use an offensive option defensively and sometimes it doesn't give you favorable positioning + you're disengaging
compare that to rocksteady and temporal mantle and it's not even broken to that degree
i also feel like positioning in rise is harder, mainly because you can just use clutch abilities to set up something

>>713419262
They are for shitters that need extra stats to win
I never once went out of my way to collect them in my hundreds of hours

>>713430725
People in real life get hunting licenses to kill things just because.

>>713419262
>anons screech all year they want preparations
>birds and hunting helper are preparations
They shouldn't have added fast travel then people would naturally collect them on their way to the monster.

Incel cope thread
Wilds sold millions

>>713434048
Mounting is more forced because the notion of avoiding jumping attacks is literally impossible for some weapons, sis
Riding literally has a button dedicated to not using it

Wirefall would be fixed if you could only use it to slingshot back towards the monster

>>713434048
>rise
>monsters enter a "mountable" state when the mount damage threshold is reached, anybody can choose to either mount it or bypass the mount entirely, has a hard time limit before it can be mountable again
This is forced
>any other MH with mounting
>whoever reaches the mounting damage threshold is immediately teleported onto the monster's back and MUST engage with the mounting minigame, no cooldown between mounts is present
This is totally optional and controllable

>>713434048
>its more forced because i redefined the definition of forced
you're not forced in any capacity to use it, and a lot of people in endgame hunts dont

>>713315024
The only defense of wilds is saying ackshully monster hunter was always shit

Which is not true.

>>713323101
Sunbreak is giga kino

>>713435432
IIRC most people disable it in lategame because it legit becomes a DPS loss compared to just knocking it out of the ride state.

Rise HR is way harder than World's, I'm failing missions here while in World the first I 3 carted was IB

>>713435354
Wirefall is mostly fixed in sunbreak

Was having your handler following you and needing to give you permission to hunt.
Pro or Con?

>wirebugs
>switch skills
>wirebug skills
>doesn't have brown n bloom art style for 50% of the game

rise wins

>>713435240
>for some
It's two weapons and both jumping attacks sucked back then and were only spammed for mounts. You could easily play bugstick without doing the polejump.
If you argue with Aerial style next, you can't be helped anymore.

>>713435368
ah yeah, the I pick in my nose for so long until it bleeds argument.
If Capcom, in 20 years, adds a setting to GU that lets you deactivate mounting than the mechanic was never forced as well?
I bet you are one of the people who complain about clagger, but its okay if Rise does it.
You have to actively deactivate that shit, you have to hope that your teammates deactivate that shit and even then monsters will drool like a retard. Not forced at all

>>713434617
>Eat for bird caller
>I usually get close to or just flat out max my HP just travelling to the monster normally
It's that simple. The seething over birds is overblown.

>>713436143
>the textures are sharp
>no green/blue bullshit flying across the screen
>radar and hud don't tell you if you're in danger
>the open map is free to explore with no invisible barriers everywhere

rise wins

>>713314806 (OP)
I like the endemic life and smaller flora/fauna and wilderness being fleshed out but everything else sucks ass

>>713436180
Rise has had Sunbreak for much, much longer than it hasn't and it's the current version of the game. Arguing over what was is irrelevant in relation to how game is discussed in the present.

>>713314806 (OP)
Funny how you have the brand of ADHD that won't allow you to play videogames but yet not prevent you from typing up this wall of nonsequitur garbage.

>>713435568
It's a percentage based chunk of damage followed by a down, I think when done optimally it can never be a damage loss, it's just boring as hell once you've seen it a trillion times and endgame hunters don't need to sharpen

>>713436561
Can't wait until Wilds dlc drops and you people say Wilds is the best thing ever, completely ignoring the bullshit unfinished base game.
How is wyvern riding even better than mounting when your whole argument is that you can ignore it.