>games you like that suck
post em

if i like the game it makes it good

>>713325253 (OP)
I got memed into playing this one. Good thing I pirated it.

>>713325253 (OP)
The gameplay is below mediocre but man the choices are so fun. Plus the different class choice are the star alongside ng+ veteran one adding extra choices.

>>713325253 (OP)
The only bad thing about this game was the shooting, and even that wasn't as bad as people meme. A number of /v/'s favorites are way more jank.

The AI is so indescribably bad that it completely fucking fails as anything approaching strategy, either in the battles or on the campaign, and any single player "high level" play boils down to blatant AI abuse rather than anything tactical
Diplomacy system that might as well not even be there
Comically badly balanced unit buffs, god-tier army leaders, and magic, to where the actual army barely matters
Every campaign is just end-turn autoresolve spam by turn ~45 and the devs still find ways to make new campaigns that are even easier, and more braindead

And despite all that the game is cool as fuck and I love all the different races

>>713325253 (OP)
Why are people suddenly talking about this game so much? It seemed almost completely forgotten for years, and now suddenly there's almost daily threads about it. Did someone make a video about it or something?

>>713325253 (OP)
Truly one of the games ever made. Also my very first vidya

>>713325705
A few sloptubers have made videos of it over the years, plus it was once delisted for a while due to music licensing issues or something, then got relisted on GOG which caused another minor wave of shilling.

>>713325253 (OP)
Problem with AP is it's just a really mediocre TPS. It's a game CLEARLY built for pistol + stealth + hacking only for Obsidian to remember they were making an RPG so they tacked on other combat options.

>>713325253 (OP)

>>713325253 (OP)
It's a great game suffering from jank that warrants replays to truly appreciate.

>>713325253 (OP)
Mediocre game
GODLY ost

I'd replay it more often but the Intro+Middle East section is kind of a slog after the first time. I'd like a mod that skips to where the game really opens up.

>>713325253 (OP)
Digimon World 2 and it's a hill I'll die on. BLACK SWORD 4 LYFE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sSkOzS98Dk

Gex 2/3
blood omen 2

After enjoying their stuff now I'm coming to wonder whether Obsidian has ever made a good game.

>>713325253 (OP)
Not just talking about the skinner box features. I like the generic fantasy world that rips off a million things, the low poly artstyle with flat colors, the awful british humor in the quests.

>>713325253 (OP)
Yeah I like this but I'm not I'd recommend it.

>>713325253 (OP)
I don't think AP sucks. In fact, it's on my 3x3 list.

These two, however, suck a lot. But I like them.

Pros
>Has some of the best sprite work of its era
>Atmospheric as fuck
>Exploration feels incredibly deep as it fully utilizes 3D space like being able to climb up or jump into places that you feel like you shouldn't be able to, and it's often rewarding because the devs rarely leave empty space on the map

Cons
>Everything else about it from combat to story to quests to RPG systems

>>713326641
They haven't. Every game has been deeply flawed in one way or another. Some games just had positives that outweighed the negatives, but those days ended when Avellone was jettisoned, though some might say the few titles Sawyer worked on are still half-way decent.

i'm surprised obsidian hasn't ruined alpha protocol with a sequel or reboot but i guess segaa must still own it.

>>713325253 (OP)
Im not one to be like muh graphics and muh clunk but that game looked and felt like it was made 10 years earlier. Dialogue system was great though and one of the funniest games to be a dickhead in.

>>713326663
>awful british humor in the quests.
take that back

>>713326641
their problem is they were always woefully mismanaged, and the good games they actually made ended up unfinished. they have been the butt of many jokes joke since kotor2.

Alpha Protocol is probably one of my favorite RPGs honestly.

>>713325253 (OP)
Honestly i hope that 007 game had relationship system like AP, ally with someone, betraying your handler, etc

>>713329403
FUCK Left alive, there's no more front mission because of that dogshit pile of game

>>713325576
I like it took the euro jank approach where your character starts out as a total retard that cant aim straight. Really makes the levels feel like they mean something

>>713326641
They're good because they are rough

>>713331323
>>713329403
Crazy that they finally let you hijack a functioning mech after like 3+ hours and there's two linear streets you get to go down before you hit a roadblock and have to get out again.

Worst part is, the mechs sorta feel alright. They could've easily pivoted this into having more mech gameplay and made a decently functional game. Imagine if every open world level instead had a mech you could hijack.

> endgame balance completely obliterated by energy weapons
> projectiles that sometimes work and sometimes don't
> charisma exists there (lmao)
> lore expanded to the worse side
Still, going out with grenade launchers, heavy machineguns and tanks and deathclaw companions against mutant armies and scum of the earth is great. I'll probably replay it with one of the mods that make it much better one day; still have a whole archive of them on one of my drives.

>>713331323
Well, except for the remakes of 1 and 2, and the upcoming 3.

>>713325253 (OP)
not really suck or anything, but mediocre. It failed mostly due to too simple gameplay. Some gadgets can make you extremely OP and boring. it could have been a good middle ground between tactical and arcade designs with more challenges. the quick use of sync shot was pretty much the only good part about it.

the good parts? They nailed the settings and level designs. You are in a near future spec ops with top of the line gadget to fight against numerous weaker foes in different environments, until you encounter enemies with similar capabilities and become the hunted. The missions in Russia were pretty good examples.The HUD, animation were nice too

>>713325376
/thread

>>713331716
people shat on tactics because it wasn't fallout 3. how little they knew what the future would bring...

>Anthem
Game fucking rocked. Good gameplay and cool weapons and gear, the story was forgettable and the characters were shitty though. Wish they stuck through with it for Anthem 2.0.
Most of the niggers who hate on this game never actually played it and only read the popular hackjob articles about it from back then.

>>713326776
Great game but it is for people who like autism simulators AKA for people like me.
>the moment you realize that mysteries can completely change the gameplay and the way you have to play the game
>the moment you realize that different missions can have different starts
I love playing as Europe. You get to do a great no colonists start as Europe and get your colony running once you've completely explored and changed the terrain.

>>713325253 (OP)
it's really bizzare. made out of almost contempt or seething at american trends.

>>713332387
I like both Fallout 3 and Fallout TACTICS >>713332282 I don't like NV or F4.

>>713325253 (OP)
The big guilty pleasures for me are
1. musou, especially Warriors Orochi games
2. Super Robot Wars, especially the Z series
3. SD Gundam G Generation

They're all truly terrible games.

>>713325253 (OP)
It was euro-jank/AA feeling as hell but man this is one of those games that made me have high hopes for games in the future with the reactivity and replayability it had. Which while not that impressive is still better than some of the shit we're getting

>>713325253 (OP)
Blood West
Alpha Protocol
The Outer Worlds
Hitman Absolution
Splinter Cell Blacklist
DmC Definitive Edition
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge

>>713332430
It had a cool concept and storm was actually kinda fun to play at times. Granted that shit was unfinished and buggy as hell and deserved a lot of the shit talking it got. On that note I never get to post this so here's one of my abominations

>>713329748
SEGA still owns the IP, but back then nothing stopping them for spiritual sequel but Obsidian now is not Obsidian that produce memorable games. Hope the 007 at least have some elements from AP like branching story, different handlers, relationship factor

>>713332217
The showcase of remake 3 is bad, and it's really bad that they even can't get the animation correct like in the OG and got thoroughly trashed by the fans

>>713332242
You do watch the prequel short film right? i kinda had fond memories of this game but iirc most of the game you spent time in holo camo when navigating the level, slick weapon customization, the sync shots, also afaik first 3rd person shooter for Ghost Recon series on PC
>>713332979
For me it's EDF, dated graphic, latest installment expensive af, yet a total fun gameplay and it's a blast with /v/df

>>713332430
i bet I wouldve loved the game, even if it had faults. i just didnt get it, wanting it to fix some of its issues, and then it just shutdown.

>>713334031
Its shut down now? I played it a year or two on ps4, no new content but the servers were on
>>713333243
My favorite was the colossus, charging with the shield out and just mowing everything down, that and the ranger were really fun

Textbook Mid but I had fun

>>713325376
This.

>>713334220
I think a lot of people didn't even try Harvestella because they thought it was a farming sim. Poor naming choice more than anything else.

>>713334116
oh no, i meant they stopped working on it. im not sure if its still up. if it was on steam, i'd give it a whirl. but Origins just pisses me off

Alpha Protocol is the best bad game I've played.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is the worst good game I've played.

>>713329484
I loved this as a kid but I literally just fucked around in the first town and surrounds

>>713334579
Literally same.

>>713334279
>>713334220
this game was pretty slow and dialogues had slow text and was unsippable that was very bad, so bad that i ve deleted the game

>>713333387
I don't know, it looks fine to me.

https://youtu.be/4kU3jE4_9bY?si=j1_9tngrxR8_Agpt

>>713325253 (OP)

>>713332710
I don't care what anyone says, RGG has never made a bad game.

imagine AP on MGS V engine

>>713325253 (OP)
(You) first.

>>713336301
This is what i mean https://youtu.be/QhxsgbGIqTw?t=640

i guess that's from the new one they drop

>>713336659
What was wrong with this game? Seems decent.

>>713338867
Those sound effects are HORRENDOUS. I distinctly remember the shotgun sound from FM3.

>>713326776
I really want it to be good. but its just not.

>>713336659
I can't even read this

>>713332282
Is this yours? I can understand most of these, even the ones I don't personally agree with, but why Surviving Mars? It's one of the blandest colony sims I've ever played. Have you really not tried anything better?

>>713338916
>Objectively horrendous level design
>Outdated, ugly graphics
>Half baked story
>Terrible (yet charming) voice acting
>Bossfights that range from decent to stupidly bad
>Terrible replayability
>Somewhat unresponsive controls
>Character progression makes no sense
Somehow I still love this game to death

Dark Souls 2

>>713336659
All I remember from this game is the fat ass cat and the claw machine

>>713338605
Albatross
Albatross?
Albatross!

Harvester. Story is good and I have a thing for FMV visuals from 90's, but some of the puzzles are convoluted even for a oldschool point and click, and the combat is so janky and badly done, whole Lodge section is just a pain to play.

>>713339215
>why Surviving Mars?
I really like the mood of the game and the wide variety of playstyles. Also i really love the different mysteries. I will never forget my first Mars Colony getting obliterated by an Earth MIC corporation. Also now that i am looking at my old screenshots i remember that there is a ton of cheeky stuff you can do like for example you can put your solars inside of a dome to protect them from the dust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZzsmzqxuvE&list=PLM6Huo32vF1QdhEYGVAOsc8T-BhxACUiU&index=28

>>713339196
took me a few seconds too many to make it out which is already a bad sign.

>>713341440
he was always a kidder, that steve

>>713325639
Total War has never been great in terms of battle tactics complexity or in map tactics AI. Just no one else does what it does exactly in terms of large battles and light 4X elements

>>713325253 (OP)
>>713325916
>>713325932
Love this game

>>713336659
this game was featured in ads by YouTubers a lot so clearly had some funding; only 1000 mixed reviews on Steam so clearly a failure

>Hitman Codename 47
Usually overlooked at a proof of concept when the series is talked about. It's obviously turbojank compared to Blood Money let alone WoA but I love it.
>EYE Divine Cybermancy
It just doesn't werks, yet a 9/10. I know it's a /v/ favorite but panned by most gamers.

>>713325376
fpbp, literally true by definition for any entertainment media

>>713325253 (OP)
this game might've been the peak of obsidian's writing honestly. too many rpgs treat dialogue like
>1. I think you're cool. [nice option, +10 relationship points]
>2. I think you SUCK! [mean option, -10 relationship points]
>3. I think you're cool and also sexy [BEGIN ROMANCE]
but AP actually makes you think about how you need to approach each npc based on their personality because a lot of them will think you're a kissass if you go with the nice option
the amount of branching paths and consequences for choices is really impressive too, you probably have to play the game at least 3 or 4 times to see everything, it's like a tighter bg3 with kino spy thriller dialogue instead of cringe millennial fanfic dialogue
the gameplay does fucking suck though, if there's ever a game that needs a remaster it's this one
anyway, to answer your question: picrel

>>713325253 (OP)
I could give entire GDC/TED speeches about the flaws of the 343 era but if I ignore the IP it's hamfisted into I can enjoy it.
It almost assuredly would've done worse without the IP's name propping it up. There's just something about having too much speed/defensive options that isn't a winning formula. Same happened with Crysis 2 and 3.
Crysis Wars had that big mode with a lot of other elements to counteract the over all effect of a player spawning with too much power.
Still, it's fun and especially now as a mere part of the MCC instead of the thing drawing most of the community and trying to hold it up, it adds enjoyable enough variety, similar to how many modes before it changed rules heavily.

>>713343626
>but AP actually makes you think about how you need to approach each npc based on their personality because a lot of them will think you're a kissass if you go with the nice option
It's worth mentioning that you don't always want to make them like you. For example you can provoke Marburg to fight you in Rome, if he hates Mike enough.

>>713329403
Time and Eternity is so shit it made me quit video games for 4 months. God that game is absolute garbage

>>713325253 (OP)

The only thing I can remember about this game is the Russian lady that was constantly showing her bra off.
A spy RPG was a cool idea, shame it was Obsidian that did it.

>>713343949
see i've played this game 3 times and had no idea that was a thing so i guess it's time for another replay!
>>713343880
kinda surprised you went with 4's mp over 5's desu, although i guess you could argue 5's is good enough to not count as sucking

>>713344379
>Sie
>russian
Anon....

>>713344526
I played this game over 10 years ago, so if she wasn’t Russian my bad.
Pretty sure she’s mainly in the Moscow part of the game at least.

>>713325253 (OP)
Metal Max 3
don't play it

>>713344239
Based retard that kept the game running in the background for five years straight.

>>713331292
There is 0 chance of that I'm afraid, anon, it's clearly just a James Bond uncharted or Nu-Raider.

>>713325253 (OP)
>my character’s ability to execute any and all tasks is linked directly to their character sheet extract hie all rpgs should be designed
>I’M HOING FUCKING SINANE AND HAVING A MELTY AIIIEEPRPOFOFOFKD

>>713344723
She compliments you in Moscow for fucking over marburg or calls you a dumbass for failing
But yes she is Yerman

>>713332242
I love the aesthetic of this game man.

>>713325253 (OP)
I don't remember much about this game but I liked the schizo CIA guy because I thought the writers made up Operation Acoustic Kitty but then I found out it was a real thing and I laughed my ass off

>>713344239
I'm honestly impressed

>>713325253 (OP)
It's really calming just hanging out on your island while the waves gently lap on the shore or cruising along on your sailing raft.

>>713326641
They never have. They made shells or outlines of good games but the people they had in charge of negotiating contracts were so fucking bad at it that they always found themselves in situations where they only had X amount of time to build the game but the game they wanted to build would have required X+Y Months. It really is project management where they faceplant and they faceplant on that every fucking time.

>>713325253 (OP)
>enemies despawn if you load a save
what a disaster of a game. of course if have to be obsidian

>>713329484
>>713334579
The open world stuff was fun, but yeah... the actual dungeons were a slog. The jumping was so bad. I remember opening the menu to save before every jump I made because many of them required pixel precision.

This was actually a pretty fun dumbed down Dorf Fort

>>713344379
How could you forget TUUUUUUUUURN UP
THE RAAAADIOOOO

>>713325253 (OP)
The aesthetic is very nice, but it's a massive stretch to even call it a video game.

>>713325576
Eh, the game is below shovelware on a technical level. You can actually despawn enemies by reloading a save. That’s how broken it is.

The gameplay is hot garbage, but everything else about it is great.

>>713326641
Anything good they’ve ever made was built on the back of someone else:

KOTOR 2? Set in George Lucas’ universe with BioWare’s gameplay systems.

New Vegas? Built on a universe made by Black Isle and gameplay systems and assets made by Bethesda.


Alpha Protocol was a trainwreck whose only redeeming quality is that it handles choice and consequence better than any other RPG.

>>713325376
Yes

>>713334240
Blast from the past right here. Don't think I ever managed to beat it.

>>713351214
king crimson actually

>>713325376
Actually this line of thinking is why gaming discussion is so shit nowadays, people can't differentiate what they find fun vs what's actually good. That's why you see some schizo constantly having a crusade against some game on /v/ because he didn't like it (but everyone else did) so he can't just accept there's a good game he doesn't like, the game has to be shit and he has to let everyone know.
It wasn't like this back in the day. In like 2009 /v/ everyone understood STALKER was shit. But it was incredibly fun shit. People loved it despite the shit, because it was a unique experience and setting.

>>713351894
nah

>>713325253 (OP)
Yeah the combat is braindead, but I find it very comfy driving around the overworld and the characters have some the best chemistry out of the whole series. And I like when Noctis starts to be a mopy cunt and then Gladio immediately shoots him down and stuff. Makes Noctis look like a dork like Cloud in the original FFVII

Those video essays and ranking videos shitting on this game can eat said shit. There are far worse mainline FF games

>>713337895
the zombie game was shit

>>713329403
Genuinely enjoyed Time and Eternity, and I'm going to play through it again. I'm going to get that best ending. RIP Imageepoch.

>>713325253 (OP)
Shitty fighting game and pure 90s anime schlock. 10/10

>>713352113
How do I stop myself from being overpowered as shit? Is it just not possible?
Even if I use the no XP armband, I still get skill points and better weapons anyway

Pretty hard to find a game like that cause usually I just tend to think people who disagree with me are wrong
I guess I'll go with pic related. Yes it's pretty linear and repetitive but the combat is fun to begin with and it looks great. It's just barely short enough that I didn't get annoyed