>~4 hours into FF7 remake
>Blew up the reactor
>Visited Seventh Heaven
>Running around doing pointless side quests for Tifa
>~4 hours into FF7
>Blew up the reactor
>Visited Seventh Heaven
>Visited another reactor
>Fought Air Buster
>Saved Aerith
>Visited Wall Mart
>Did the whole Don Corneo stuff
>Fought Aps
>Did the whole train graveyard
>Fought Reno on top of the pillar
>Climbed up to the Shinra Building
Why are new games so padded with boring stuff?

>>713334892 (OP)
it doesnt get better. this game has 5 minutes of fun for every 60minutes of gameplay. the game does everything in its power to prevent any semblance of momentum or immersion.
>if you get too good at the game, the bosses will be immune during your burst window to load a mandatory phase transition cutscene
>literally every boss will cuck you 2-3 times before it dies
>they couldnt figure out how to have multiple health bars on a boss
>will only be able to have fun if you play a retard
>environment has more empty rooms than ff2
>90% of the hallway design is wasted space
>no cool unique gear or unique materia to find off the beaten path
>encouraged to look at the scenery
>scenery is either lacking details like smoke stacks, lights, electricity pulses from og7
>or literally static images
>every gameplay addition that isnt the combat is literal filler slop

>>713334892 (OP)
It's not your fault, your parents failed you by entertaining ADHD as an actual thing instead of them failing as parents, making you into the instant gratification faggot you ended up being.

What's your favourite gacha btw?

>>713334892 (OP)
Man
I was so excited about FF7R announcement. Was like "Yes! Finally I can explore whole Midgard and see what all the other sectors are like!"
I have never in my fucking life been so disappointed. Then all the story changes and meta commentary and needing to have completed(not finished, completed) the og FFVII and watched Advent Children and played Crisis Core so that the Remake trilogy makes sense.
But hey, at least it doesn't have le heckin yucky turn-based combat! Now you mash x to awesome for few minutes on enemies that died on 1-2 hits in the og.

>>713334892 (OP)
You cannot compare the two games in that way. FF7 Remake has been made even to present to the player a more complete storyline than what was present on the OG. To not mention that the type of game itself open up to more game mechanics opportunities that was not available on the original. And you have always to consider that Remake have to justify the price of the game, adding content that was not needed in the OG, for you got all the game, in that case, not just a part of it.

>>713334892 (OP)
Yeah, the basically expanded an 8 hour section into a 40 hour game

>>713334892 (OP)
I haven't played Remake, but I keep hearing that it's overly padded. How true is this? I thought the remake was long because it expanded on many aspects of Midgar and the story, which is to be expected when you do that. Is that an incorrect assumption? Is bad expanding just padding? What's good expanding then? Educate me.

>>713335587
What kind of weird mental gymnastics is this? Remake is objectively worse game and all the new "content" and "mechanics" are just filler. Justify the price? How about releasing finished game instead of episodic garbage.

>>713334892 (OP)
Modern games in general can't properly have their games anymore, but Remake is egregiously bad at it.
For the love of God, don't play Shitbirth because it's even more retarded.

For some sense of scale: they bloated every section the games showcase (e.g., Midgar) to about ten times its size of the og.

>>713335774
It forces you to do menial MMO side quests and play the minigames. Everything is also drawn out too long. Basically nu-square flashy but no substance. Its also not really a remake but a weird sequel.

>>713335412
Oh the fucking ironing. Holy fucking shit.

>>713335865
>Chapter 1 is on PS1
>Need to buy PS2 for chapter 2/3

>>713334892 (OP)
That's only cuz you know just where to go and how the combat system works/optimization.
If you were a first time player you'd get lost quite a bit longer talking to npcs and exploring.

>>713336126
You're full of shit. Even when playing blind - unless you're retarded, which you probably are considering you're defending the shitmakes - Midgar would take no longer than 5-6 hours.

>>713336126
If its your first JRPG maybe, what early game towns in any JRPG have real shit to learn from NPCs? The quest NPCs are usually only chirping useful side quest info later on.

>>713335982
Don't forget the forced walking around segments.

if you think remake is padded just wait for rebirth

These remake games are so bad it's stomach churning and vomit inducing. And snoys tried to pretend it was good like they thought we'd never find out

>>713335347
>>if you get too good at the game, the bosses will be immune during your burst window to load a mandatory phase transition cutscene
Is that real? Does it have a dos threshold?

>>713336126
Granted, it's not my first time playing the game. But I haven't played it in like 20 years and I did go through stuff like the material tutorial and I'm talking to every NPC I can find.

I think the FF7 Remakes are top 3 for most consistent seething, BG3 and Zelda are up there as well.

>>713335982
>>713335774
IF the game just let you do the mainline shit, it would probably be a fine 25ish hour long game. But there is so many layers of bullshit in it, and Rebirth, that stretch it out. They will take a 5-10m segment in the original game, and make it take an hour like the train graveyard
>OG, you climb and interact to make them move and make a path to where Avalanche is fighting Shinra near the plate.
>Remake, the fight over the plate is happening and the game throws some actual ghost bullshit and elongated segment in the warehouse with slow walking segments and a ghost boss

>>713336126
4-6hrs is pretty realistic. If you know the game you are out of midgar in around 2h mark

>>713336321
Its real, and its annoying. If the threshold, which is not visible to you by the way, is for example 75% and you stagger at 77% you will basically lose the entire buildup to said stagger when the cutscene triggers.

Despite being annoying, I also don't think its a huge deal. I'd rather have that than say skip phase 3 of Simon in E33 in my first fight against him before I nerfed myself

>>713335347
yeah. you're playing a scripted movie that will not let you progress at a any reasonable pace and has superficial gameplay always coming second to the cutscenes and filler. it's like being held hostage.

Original FF7 with new threat mod gives the best experience if you've alreay played the original. The QoL to skip long story parts is neat.

>>713336321
>Is that real?
yes, and it also resets the stagger bar for each transition. its not the biggest problem by itself, but it stacks on with a ton of other issues. death by a thousand cuts. its barely a videogame. rebirth was 10x better and at least fun

>>713336310
KEK what a pansy ass fucking faggot how the fuck is nobody else in this thread laughing at this shit you're all fucking pathetic

>>713336321
>>713336478
This shit pissed me off to no end, I enjoyed the combat in the remake but multiple boss battles playing blind I would use a limit break or something right before a healthgate and lost out on so much damage potential.

>old ff7: story good, pacing good, gameplay bad
>new ff7 story bad, pacing horrible, gameplay good
why can't we have good things

>old ff7: story good, pacing good, gameplay good
>new ff7 story bad, pacing horrible, gameplay bad
ftfy

>>713336864
Unfortunately the remake gameplay is bad.

>>713336864
For a turn based JRPG, FF7 is good. Snappy animations for the most part, keep the big summons flashy. JRPGs are more about the progression systems and the materia system is great.

>>713336864
I like the OG gameplay more. I dont want be there whacking ages on basic mobs.

>old ff7: story good, pacing good, gameplay good
>new ff7 story good, pacing horrible, gameplay phenomenal
feels good

>>713336864
There's nothing wrong with basic ATB with materia for customization.

>>713336930
I don't know what game you are playing when anything not a boss doesn't get exterminated within moments of a battle starting. Especially after seeing them and you can just exploit weakness into pressure into stagger. Especially on like 80% or so enemies where its just an elemental weakness which causes pressure
>enemies in Rebirth weak to Ice
>Snow Flurry, which hits multiple
>all pressured, use Focused Strike after lining it up
>all stagger, instantly dead right after
Some larger enemies take longer but absolutely not "whack on for ages". Hell even if we want to include bosses, is anything in Remake/Rebirth less fun than THIS piece of shit? Boring ass moveset, but somehow so much health its just a slog.

>>713335865
This but worse
Chapter 1 in ps1
Chapter 2 in ps2
Chapter 3 in ps3
Each chapter becomes progressively more expensive too because 5 or 6 years pass in between each other and inflation fucking sucks.

>>713336478
Game devs are lazy af.
>>713336641
>>713336820
I've heard that both games have decent combat systems. Personally, I dislike the slow motion during input.

>>713337174
>I've heard that both games have decent combat systems
its the same combat system, but rebirth is a bit more complex. its main advantage is better encounter design than remake. the combo attacks and team attacks keep the momentum going
>Personally, I dislike the slow motion during input.
you can turn that off and also hotkey abilities to avoid the menu in combat

>>713336930
>I dont want be there whacking ages on basic mobs.
what, if anything my frustrations with ff7 remake was that almost everything died so fast that I didn't get to utilise much of the combat a lot of times

fyi still samefagging if you use your phone/proxies faggot

>>713335865
they cut the recruit vincent DLC

Just play OG

>>713336310
The fucks a snoy?
Is it meant to be a pun on the forbidden bean that the Japs have eaten since forever and is just a normal part of their cuisine.

>>713336864
OG gameplay is awesome.
Remake combat is an awkward Frankenstein's Monster.

>>713337535
I didn't know, only played the demo, which I had to pay for iirc.
I doubt I'll get the games, as they are artificially prolonged and the obligatory black dude in remake 2 is just a turn off.

>>713338801
Barret was always in FF7.

>>713334892 (OP)
is still a very good and charming game through. One of the best Jrpg's released in recent years. I enjoyed enough that I played Remakes 2 for the Hard mode and have already beaten Rebirth like 6 times. In fact I don't think there are any Jrpg's released in the last and current generation that are better than Rebirth. Absolute best combat ever made.

>>713334892 (OP)
is still a very good and charming game through. One of the best Jrpg's released in recent years. I enjoyed it enough that I played Remake 2 twice for the Hard mode and have already beaten Rebirth like 6 times. In fact I don't think there are any Jrpg's released in the last and current generation that are better than Rebirth. Absolute best combat ever made.

>>713339394
Based video game enjoyer.

>>713334892 (OP)
its a remake in the same way the eva rebuilds were, just enjoy the new stuff added into what you already love.
if you have not played ff7 yet i would suggest start with that

>>713339589
what if the new stuff enjoyable?

>>713334892 (OP)
you spelled Aeris wrong

>>713339394
It's so good, that random "solo" indie game project like Chained Echoes slaps it 10 times over.

>>713334892 (OP)
because they're slop

>>713339660
yeah, if you get the analogy its tops. its not to different and the time janny shit isnt as prolevorent yet but im about to finish the first and go on to the second.
i hope it will take the eva route and go down a different path from here

>>713335865
this aged poorly

>>713339394
You 100% Rebirth multiple times already? How short is the game?

>>713340023
Dont care about your game dev

>>713342478
yeah who knew the reality would be worse

>>713335412
this anon wears girl clothes

>>713343176
Hot

>>713335865
Now this is more accurate

How they handled Sephiroth turned me off buying anymore of it.
>Sephiroth built up through the original game
>Not a tough fight but the Developers and Story writers did a good job making you fear this guy.
>Cloud's recollection of the events in Nibelheim, the Zolom, how easily he killed the Shinra president when he was basically the main antagonist for us up to that point, kills Aeris, unleashes the weapons, and summons Meteor
>Is a looming threat but not ever present making any encounter with him memorable
>His regular theme is foreboding with that MIDI heartbeat going on
>His boss theme is one of the most Iconic track in FF history and not revealed until the end of the game
Meanwhile
>FF7R will not stop shoving him in your face
>Keeps braincalling me like a psychic stalker Ex-GF
>you actually fight him and win
>theme played as well
>Shows Sephiroth killing the Zolom vs just showing us the body and letting our imagination fill in the blanks
>Fight his Bizarro form in Rebirth
>You win again btw
The zoomers don't get the fear of him because you've already beat his ass twice. If the directors weren't retards they could've done the gay constant psychic skype calls and appearances but not have him fight us in Remake and Rebirth and they would've gotten a much better experience. They got robbed

>>713343908
This is bullshit because you forgot to include the DLC you could unlock by buying Butterfingers candy bars

>>713338941
Not bullet

>>713343176
Like Cloud.
Out of all the things they changed, they just had to keep the crossdressing mission.

>>713344747
Dont forget that you will need to play Ever crisis to understand his back story, just like what they did with Glenn

>>713345108
From Chrono Trigger?

>>713345014
What a shitty version though
>No silly games to win to get the higher quality stuff
>No option to lose or win the selection from Corneo as just a fun little thing to do
>Dance number and you automatically win the selection in Remake

>>713345180
I will not be surprise if that's the case

>>713344747
Sephiroth's only purpose after the original FF7 is to be fujo bait.

>>713345180
No, from The First Soldier aka FFVII (Fortnite Fantasy VII)

>>713344747
Yes, it must be said that SE played their hand very bad this time. I'm not thinking that part 3 is going to save this. And if they're already recording the voice tracks, this means that they have cut out a lot of things, in order to free themselves as quickly as possible. Even the Rebirth announced DLC got discarded

>>713346182
I wonder if SE ever looks at their shit from distance and rethink that maybe whatever they are doing is not working

>>713346412
>FFXIV is your main cash cow
>Siphon money and resources from it to develop The Avengers
>It flops
>XIV is still your main income
>Siphon money and resources from it to develop Forespoke
>XIV still carrying you on it's back
>Siphon money and resources from it to develop Foamstars
>XIV is now a skeleton
>Siphon money and resources from it to develop XVI
>XIV is not doing well with DT
Not looking good desu

>>713334892 (OP)
Original
>Shinra chase with 2 or 3 troopers just for some seconds
>arrive at 1:00 am at 7th heaven, leave the next morning immediately
>get forced out of the train to sector 5, yet they land just next to the right vent to sector 4, and yet you get to sector 5 reactor immediately after some minutes
Remake
>Shinra actually chases you around
>Sephiroth uses this opportunity to start pulling Cloud strings
>arrive late at night, they decide to wait a day before going again
>Tifa/Cloud develop their relationship / talk about their past, and introduce Cloud to sector 7, since Cloud would have lived there for some time if nothing happened
>A mission to develop the new bomb
>they get forced out of train, and they have to stop and check where the fuck they are to get to sector 5
>they take some time since they are fucking entire sectors in a big ass city

Its not that the remake is padded, more like the original is rushed. Once you play original/remake back to back you realize how quickly and rushed the plotting and everything happens

>>713347962
What things do you think the original did better than remake? What could happen in remakes plot that you would call bad?

>>713348101
Sephiroth time travels back, kills tifa and aerith revives.

>>713336310
t.

>>713335428
Every change they made was the wrong decision. I am a huge ff7 fan and I refused to even finish part 1

>>713334892 (OP)
I hear they removed Dyne's suicide.
wtf

Next game, I bet they'll remove Palmer's murder, too.

>>713350671
Yeah, he survives and runs away. He shares a hug with Barret and say he will contact him again to fight shinra together.

>>713335587
>more complete
See: "adding fucking nonsense and changing the timeline."

So much more complete, yes!

>>713350671
after his fight with Barret Shinra soldiers came in guns blazing and Dyne acted as human shield to protect him and died.
It was pretty good actually but the narrative kind of moves on too fast with multiple boss fights and there was no time to mourn his death. That was the actual bad part. The no mourning.

>>713335923
>For the love of God, don't play Shitbirth because it's even more retarded.
I quit Rebirth once I got to Cosmo Canyon because I couldn't handle all the padding. Once you get to Cosmo some black girl (lol DEI) forces you to help her capture a chocobo. And then you have to learn to fly it and help her because she is sad she can't fly anymore due to a broken leg or some shit.

I legit threw my hands up in the air like
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
Remember when you got to Cosmo in OG FF7? You had a heart to heart camp with your team. You visited Bugenhagen and then went straight into the Cave of the Gi. No padding. No useless shit. No DEI black woman that needs saving.

God Rebirth was so much trash I was honestly so regretful I wasted money on it.

>>713351224
>because I couldn't handle all the padding
What padding you couldn't handle retard? You didn't even need to do any fo that shit, it was your choice to do so.

>>713351325
>You didn't even need to do any fo that shit,
The chocobo quest is mandatory when you enter Cosmo Canyon. You can't see Bugenhagen until you finish it because it's how you learn to fly. So no, it wasn't my choice.

>>713351128
>no mourning

>>713351224
>/vt/ranny
didn’t read

>>713351325
>you don't need to do that content!
>unless you don't want your weapons/characters sheets to be underleveled
>and unless you don't want to miss out on some of the actually interesting and useful materia you can only get from the faggot kid
>and unless you want your summonings/have the summonings not be absolutely useless
>and unless you want to get something out of the enemy skill materia (that isn't even 10% as good as in OG, which you can't know unless you unlock it, but it's also 20 times more annoying to unlock to only realize it's fucking shit)
Not to mention some of the optional fights like the mind flayer were actually good, but you have to wade through a whole lot of shit to get to them.

>>713351521
Fly for what? What are you talking about?
Literally from a guide
>In FF7 Rebirth, while exploring Cosmo Canyon, there isn't a single mandatory quest that directly blocks story progression.
You retards talk a lot of shit and spread too many lies about this game.

>>713351915
No one is going to play your padded to shit vidya.

>>713335347
You forgot to mention

>Slow crawling/squeezing through environmental rubble

>>713344809
Cup Noodles Soup

>>713346182
I don't remember Rebirth ever having DLC announced, all the talk pre-release was there was no point since the development pipeline was so quick for Remake->Rebirth they can now just focus on the third part.

>>713336630
New Threat is incredible, anyone who loves FF7 has zero excuse not to try it at least once. Experimenting with character builds and finding little easter eggs is so good.

>>713353017
But you need to pay for the pc version to even play the damn mod

>hurr durr muh padding muh padding hurr durr
You retards really need to come up with something new.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JD2BZRjvh8