All you do is just spam attack regardless

>>713335060 (OP)
you didn't need to signal about your retardation and being filtered
sage stupid negroid

>>713335092
This just proves my point.

terrible bait
im only responding to bump this thread because ffv is my fave ff

i hate my current job, i wish i can change my job to blue mage

>>713335060 (OP)
Its even better when you realise the game is meant to be beatable with any jobs combo and just basic attacking. You are never forced to actually adapt to anything.

>>713335060 (OP)
Changing sprites is neat. I do think a flaw of the job system is at the end you're just gonna use Mimic with everybody.

>>713335724
what job are you?

>>713335724
Because you're a worthless drain unless somebody follows an autistic guide?

>>713335060 (OP)
Because I got to see my wife in her different cute outfits.

>>713335060 (OP)
This is why you play the superior game FF3 where you actually have to use your brain with the job system
>>713335092
>>713335551
Seething Vbabies

>>713335060 (OP)
>Why do boomers larp
Don't underestimate how obsessed autists get with simplistic grind slop

>>713335060 (OP)
stop using terms you don't know the meaning of

>>713335060 (OP)
We can tell you're dying alone.

>>713335060 (OP)
Fuck you.

ff1-5 all shit

>>713335060 (OP)
It's not the failing of the job system. It's a failing of encounter design to consistently challenge the player to engage with the mechanics, as well as a failure of the developers to discourage AP grinding and slapping Rapid Fire onto a party of Freelancers.
4-Job Fiesta style play clarifies how different jobs and party compositions stack up against the different challenges the game throws your way.

>>713338883
You can tell that somebody hasn't played FFIV if they imply that it's good

>>713335060 (OP)
you are playing a jrpg
what the hell did you expect lmao
go on /a/ or /tv/ there are better stories than these moviegame spreadsheet simulators
even VNs mog JRPGs because they have a deeper focus on the story

>>713339668
JRPGs have great stories, FF5 is just not of them

>>713335060 (OP)
It's still a Final Fantasy game.

>>713335060 (OP)
>nooo why are a bunch of options that let me customize, mix, experiment and then and min max to my own preferences based on the information presented and that i have gained by said experimenting good
you are retarded
none of you fucking faglords like jrpgs, you don't play to have fun, you don't like to try things, or think about interactions or combinations, you play games purely to "beat" them with the least resistance possible in the most optimal way that the internet tells you to, or the way that is absolutely the least optimal but requires the least input and attention from you because you don't actually want to be playing in the first place
just fuck off

The amount of seething with no acutal response from those triggerd really says it all kek

8 > 10 > 9 > 12 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 6 > 5 > 2 > 4 > 13 > 16 > 15

>>713335060 (OP)
that's every jrpg. none of the mechanics actually ever matter.

>>713339668
If I cared mostly about story I would read a book instead of consuming jap slop like Vns

>>713335060 (OP)
I like it because there's a lot of options.
I have played through Final Fantasy 5 no fewer than ten times so far.

Can someone explain why im missing 90% of my attacks with bartz dual weilding swords? Is the game retarded? Why dualwield if its 90% chance to fucking miss!?

>>713340058
Are you dual wielding Blood Swords by any chance?

>>713340098
Yes... and an ice sword...

>>713340194
You need to use Aim or the 4x attack skill or you will constantly miss with the Blood Sword.

>>713340194
Both of those have lower accuracy

>>713338883
>V is the fun one
>IV and VI are the tryhard edgy ones
based

>>713340285
Sigh...

>>713335060 (OP)
Jobs and Materia are the only proper customization systems this series has ever seen and are among the best in genre.

>>713335060 (OP)

>>713335060 (OP)
No I spam
>Spellblade + dual wield + rapid fire
>Dualcast + Flare
>Dualcast + Bahamut'
>Spellblade + dual wield + rapid fire

>>713340412
Wtf is this RPG Maker game? Why do you keep posting it?

>>713335060 (OP)
Consider the following:

>>713340467
AWOOOGA

>>713337101
RPGs need more old man party members that get replaced by their daughters

>>713335060 (OP)
The most valuable thing you can learn how to do is break rods. It makes the fire boss inside of the boat near Karnak a cakewalk, as well as Ifrit and Biblos. It also easily takes out the Zorn ship's guns and makes the fight against the main cannon trivial.

Before going into Galuf's world, I recommend grinding a little against the Nacks near the forest near Karnak to get enough money to buy ten fire, ice, and thunder rods. This can carry you through Galuf's world all the way to the first fight with Exdeath.

Rod breaks are a huge fucking deal but only black mages can do i, so make sure to always have one in your party.

>>713340689
wtf r u talking about creep..?

>>713340619
>swarthy pirate captain you would earnestly mistake for a man
>cleans up so well that she's a certified gold 10/10 knockout
I wish there was a more kino trope in all of fiction, but the issue is that shit like this immediately stops working the moment sprites/portraits get too much detail on them. No one with a brain sees this and goes "yes, that is absolutely not a female". It absolutely needs to be either text-only or low-detail as possible without too many things like portraits or other shit.
Kind of like how if you read the original Kino no Tabi in Japanese without ever seeing the cover or any illustrations, you'd never know she was a girl until it was explicitly revealed.

>>713340954
>No one with a brain sees this and goes "yes, that is absolutely not a female"
Amano draws every man that isn't in armor like a twink bitch so I believed it

>>713340954
I mean that looks more like a troon than an actual woman, but that's just Amano's art being ugly

>>713340634
Daughters in fursuits yeah

>>713339882

Why yes, I freelancer dual wield rapid fire, thanks for asking

Even if OP is blatant bait, he's not wrong. Turn-based JRPGs are snoozefests, especially older ones >>713335810

I keep trying to play them only to time and time again realize how boring I find them, stories included. I've only found Persona 5 and Atelier games fun recently. P5 thanks to being able to outright skip most of the pointless battles, and Atelier due to being able to de facto skip the battles by making ridiculous gear with crafting autism.

>>713335810
>>713343680
No shit retards, it's an RPG, not a fucking puzzle game. What do you think role-playing is? Linear challenges where you do what the game tells you?

>>713343680
real rpg not to meant to become larping game

>>713342849
Theres nothing wrong about what I said though thats 90% of the game

>>713343864
Brother the first exdeath fight is like a 10x increase in difficulty to anything that came before. It is the first point in the game where you actually have to engage with the combat and not just spam attack. Which is what all the bosses ought to be like. The fodder enemies can be attack spam but the bosses should be real fights that you dont just afk and win.

>>713339929
7 > 5 > 10 > 14 > 6 > 8 > 9 = 4 > 1 > 13 > 15 = 11 (only beat the base game) > 12 > 3 > 2 > 16 > 0
I've beaten them all but 0, I really didn't like that one. Maybe some day I'll try again.

>>713344304
Why do people hate 2 so much? Just the levelling system? I thought it was kinda fun attacking your own party members to train attack and defense

>>713344304
>7 > 5 > 10
And thats where I stopped reading

>>713343864
>Linear challenges where you do what the game tells you?
That's exactly how JRPGs play, yes. CRPGs with positioning and actually relevant statuses actually add some variety to combat over 4 niggas in a row JRPGs, on top of having actual roleplaying in them.

>>713344167
>muh bosses
KYS fucking cretinous Fromtard

>>713335724
You're a closet masochist.

>>713344390
The internet told them to, final fantasy fans have no sense of self

>>713335060 (OP)
>Replayed FF5 recently
>It's still the best FF game alongside 14
Nice

>>713344469
You should actually play both JRPGs and CRPGs rather than shitposting about them

>>713344474
???????
Sorry its bad that bosses should make you engage with the combat system? They dont need to be insanly difficult just harder than a fucking random encounter

>>713340412
>sub-attack
You didn't just mash attack.

>>713344390
2 has interesting ideas and I respect that it spawned the final fantasy legend series and saga series but to me its boring as sin and the music is weak compared to pretty much everything after other than maybe 15, which was just absurdly bland and forgettable.

Im gonna play this for the first time soon and I don't care if it's easy because Bravely Default is pissing me the fuck off with bullshit bosses

>>713344167
Anon the game has fucking leveling. No shit you can clear anything with just auto attacks if you grind enough, the genre is made from the ground up to gradually scale the difficulty down the more time you waste on it. Doesn't change the fact that it's better and faster to AoE down trash and actually use your skills and consumables on bosses.

>>713344864
You can do it without grinding.

>>713344390
2 is really bizarre and badly balanced, I like it but it's EXTREMELY jank. Like, it's a good strategy to just have nobody in your party wear armor at all. And instant kill spells work on most bosses with a high success rate.

>>713337162
FF3 is just a glorified version of FF1 where you pick 4 jobs at the start and stick with them the entire game, only occasionally switching them out when the game presents you with a wall that requires a specific job like Sage.
FF5's implementation that encourages you to switch jobs and mix and match their abilities as much as possible is much better.

>>713344909
Sounds like bullshit, or your definition of grinding is just off

Finish your fiesta yet anon?

>>713335060 (OP)
Multi job systems are good because they give you a continuous stream of small things to work towards, with FF5 all of it carries over to Freelancer which gives you a meta progression goal too so it doesn't feel like you're grinding for nothing.

That's why they're great, they're a progression system with constant rewards that allow you to use new abilities.

I love job systems but they're usually pretty limited on how many skills you can take from other classes
I think Dragon's Dogma is the highest I've seen, with 6 passives to take from whatever class you want

Why do people who hate RPGs always play RPGs then complain that the games are no-skill because the characters do more damage as they level up?

>>713344958
I'm sorry but of all the stuff you can say is bad about FF2, the fucking music? Brother.
https://youtu.be/i9mAP8k4bSo?si=W80F7zZTaonEZ2SX
https://youtu.be/NewqrjDRNXA?si=Pzzkv1lV2rGyREXw
https://youtu.be/L44cBunhmBQ?si=sOSTNrbBh2AIi_Cb
https://youtu.be/5Y1r3gO_oI4?si=10WkrGaPsmBO3BlH

>>713345243
I love JRPGs but I will freely admit that they're braindead. I honestly couldn't tell you why it's fun to run through hundreds of random encounters and then beat a boss in one attempt. But it is fun, I'll never get tired of it

>>713344304
I've only played the original for NES and it was buggy and even the over powering methods were obnoxious to do. One day I'll try the psp version or something and I'll reorder things if I like it more.

>>713344729
Final fantasy legend is SaGa it was just named final fantasy legend for gaijins.

>>713344390
for me it's the dungeon design with empty rooms + guaranteed encounters, it just makes you waste your time

>>713344403
Automatically agreed and didn't need to see the rest eh? Good taste.

>>713345243
Because you're on /v/ and the routine here is to simply shitpost about anything, or peddle sociopolitical psyops/propaganda

>>713345310
>I honestly couldn't tell you why it's fun
It's called roleplaying.

>>713345310
You need to play something other than Final Fantasy sometime.

>>713345243
Why are people so upset that some people want to actually engage with a games combat and not roll over everything? Brain off games just get boring very quick.

>>713346223
should've fought more metal slimes

>>713346686
The actual answer is simpler than that. The atlas is clearly only targeting one person until they're dead, so the moment you see he's going for Olli you have her defend and have Glyn heal her while Mort focuses him down with attacks.

>>713346636
You played the dice rolling genre and now you're surprised there's dice roll combat and an inventory spreadsheet...

>>713346945
no

>>713346972
Name 5 JRPGs that are based on dice-rolling pen & paper games

>>713335060 (OP)
>All you do is just spam attack
That's the thing, you don't. FFV is the best party building and gameplay that FF has ever had.

>>713337162
>FFIII
>Forcing you to use certain classes at certain points is "using your brain"
>xitter non-argument spamword
At least try to be a little less obvious in your bait

>>713344698
It's just which weapon you're holding since characters can have 2 weaps and 2 shields they switch between. So technically it is just mashing attack.

>Berserker: starts battle without berserk, 10% increased attack damage without berserk, can enter berserk for the damage bonus but it lasts until death
>Beastmaster: make it easier to capture enemies, allow capturing multiple enemies at once
>Geomancer: buff the abilities so it's more like Mog
>Bard: increase song buff for the first few rounds but give them diminishing returns so they are more useful for shorter fights too
>Dragoon: buff jump damage, make it easier to use jump to avoid damage (maybe allow specifying when to fall after jumping with a maximum time)
>Dancer: make dances other than sword dance more useful and allow selecting which dance to perform
My suggestions to make the worst jobs better

>>713335060 (OP)
you ever get the feeling you only like FF5 because you're supposed to?

>>713348007
Berserker is top tier

>>713348190
idk I feel like I love it because its very fun to play and faris a best girl

>>713348190
nope

>>713348190
Yes but its not bad. FF6 is where it peaked for the pixel ones rest are mid.

>>713335060 (OP)
>>713339882
>OP: guys! 2 + 2 = 5!
>everybody: you're a fucking retard
>OP: hurr your seething, can't even argue why I'm wrong, blah blah blah *cock sucking sounds intensify"
Pretty sure you won't understand what I'm trying to say here.

>>713348190
Never. It's the flawless entry.

>>713348190
No, that's IV for me. If I liked VII it'd be that one

>>713348190
My love for FFV is genuine.

>>713348190
Well you are supposed to like good games that you enjoy

>>713348190
That's every single entry that released on the PS1 and most on the PS2.
Except Tactics. That one's genuine.

>>713338572
everyone dies alone

>>713344469
CRPGs back then were full of trial-and-error encounters that if you didn't have knowledge about beforehand would utterly destroy you.

>>713339134
I love FFIV, I've beaten it like 20 times in my life. :)

>>713335060 (OP)
I liked the tone, atmosphere, gameplay and music. Everyone else seems to be sruck on the job system. Literally every video i've started to watch gets into how the job system blah blah blah within the first few minutes, and then i just check out something else

Play FFV four job fiesta you cretins.

>>713335060 (OP)
The story seems so goofy it might as well not exist. Or is it just because I played it when I was older?

you extend some encounters by several minutes if you just spam attack

The job system worked better in the Tactics games.

Especially in advance and A2 with the races having access to different classes

>>713339134
Final Fantasy 4 is Star Wars and I love it. 5 party members at once and the Zeromus fight is the best final boss. Fuck you, fag.

For 4 job fiesta I had black mage as my first job and had to cheat on garula by having one dude be freelancer and use the whip. I only realized later you could one shot him by breaking the ice rod.

@713335294
I love this reply, It makes people feel like they're winning an argument when they're clearly losing. Just use this reply with literally any comment and it can boost your own self-esteem by one point.

>>713338883
IV is even more brain dead than the other two you just mentioned. Especially the western easy type version. I know this because it's One of my favorites. I don't hate the other two I just haven't played them completely, But I know there's more depth to V and VI

>>713339134
I like IV but I don't really see the point of replaying if you're having the same party every time. Especially in the early game when it's Cecil carrying a bunch of other shitters.
Maybe if you want to do some serious respecs like making Rosa a DPS archer actually now that I'm typing it out it doesn't seem like a bad idea.

>>713348190
>only like FF5 because you're supposed to?
Only FF7 is like that because it's the most popular entry.
That being said if I could play say bravely default I would if I could just get a 3DS emulator.

>>713352575
>I know there's more depth to VI
There is isnt.
t. finished VI 15+ times.

>>713335060 (OP)
Im on the counterside, nothing pisses me off more than Zoomers who discover" this game, praise it, than shit on FF3.

>>713352602
I replay it because it's fun

>>713348190
>10 replies, not one faggot with the correct responce.
What?! Don't ever, ever say or think that again!
FF5 is a masterpiece. I do agree it's over rated though as the first half greatly trumps the back half.

>>713345243
They want level scaling because their first RPG was Todd slop

>>713353562
I used to hate it, but Im playing FFT GBA and DS and the lack of level scaleing is ruining it for me. There is just such a huge discrepancy on your level depending how you set up your team it encourages you to ignore 80% of the team and dispatch missions.
GBA had bigger issues but ruined DS for me after the first fun 1/3rd.

>>713345002
Except for the improving jobs so it's nothing like you described, ya...

>>713337162
Based
Zoom zoom cringe

>>713335060 (OP)
Try beating Shinryu and Omega with just attack

I love when faggots like OP get called out on their retarded bait but pathetically try to get it going, while their lame ass threads get rightfully turned into proper discussion of the game. Even if that was their actual intention they weren't man enough to talk sincerely about the game.

The only actual issue with V is that you can get so ridiculously broken by the end that anything other than Double Sword/Flare Blade and Skill Shot feels sub-optimal

Is there a guide on how to completely min max a run in V? I want to become completely broken and op as quickly as possible.

>>713355704
Pick Thief
Run from 256 battles
Get Chicken Knife
EASY MONEY

>>713354891

>>713335092
fpbp

>>713355704
Look up chemist mixes and all the blue magic and abuse those, you can even skip fighting Neo-Exdeath if you use one of the mixes on the fight before him

>>713355804
Chicken Knife is fucking bullshit. And it's so easy to nerf it too, without losing out on Dual Wield/Spellblade/Rapid Fire (since it's been canonized by Dissidia. All you gotta do is not let Mimes equip Knives.

>>713342261
>My love for you is like a truck

>>713342261
Krile always ended up as my "strong guy" archetype since my party make up was
>Bartz = Hero/Fighter
>Reina = Healer/Support
>Faris = Thief/Caster
>Galuf = Monk/Heavy Hitter
It's amusing to me seeing a loli wearing a catsuit and just go ungaa bungaa as a Breserker.

>>713355584
That happens with 6, 7 and 8 too.

>>713344390
FF2 is genuinely good if you choose a specific archetype/job for each party member to fulfill. The issue is if you don't do that and kind of just fuck around with how you build your party it's shit.

>>713344390
2 got really boring at the end for me because every fight I couldn't end in a turn became Blink > Barrier > Berserk > Battack

>>713357068
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKING FUCK

>>713337162
FF5: playing how you want to play
FF3: following dev instructions, the omly way is how the devs want you to play

>>713351542
Not those who are beloved.

>>713335060 (OP)
maybe if you're overlevelled

>>713348868
Jesus Christ Galuf you have a granddaughter.

>>713352353
You shouldn't have ANY problems if you have a Black Mage. Rod breaking solves almost everything.

>>713353934
I played all the FFT games and I'm confused what you're talking about. Saying the story is too easy if you do all the side missions?

I really like this job, even if it's inconvenient.

>>713346223
>posts the most braindead of braindead JRPGs and pretends it's deeper than it really is by purposefully underleveling

>>713360735
Too easy if you reuse the same 6 characters for every mission, however too hard if you try to evenly use your team. All of it would be solved with level scaling like in the original FFT.

>>713360962
everyone told me I was fucked when I rolled this job in fiesta but I literally used it to one shot every boss with Catch/Release.

>>713361193
But the original FFT only has level scaling in random encounters which both FFTA games do as well

>>713335060 (OP)
FFV specifically makes it hard to spam attack nonstop unless you stop and grind your ass off. 4 berserker is an extremely hard challenge that requires insane luck.

>>713338883
FFVI is the worst of the three and FFV is the best.

>>713344304
No
7>6>9>3>5>16>15>12>1>10>8>2>4>0>13

Drop 10, 8, and 4, move up 3 and 16. Especially 3 if young yo put 5 second, WTF?

>>713348190
No?

>>713339929
5>4>1>9>3>10>12>7>6>16>15>8>2>13>14>11

>>713348190
Nope. I've played all the FF games blind and 5 was far and away my favorite one.

>>713361408
Random are all bizarrely under leveled in GBA, they are 10% of battles though so who cares. The original I thought was scaling, not sure what the difference is between story and random. The 60% of battles when you fight rando's on your first visit is that random or scaling? ie monster fights, bandits. Either way you do 10x more random battles.
Levels of enemy units in FFT can be determined by three different schemes.

FIXED LEVEL: This is used for most enemies in story battles. The enemy's level is fixed at a certain value and will always be the same, regardless of the levels of your party members. For instance, Velius is always at Level 31.

VARIABLE RANDOM: This is used for most enemies in random battles. The enemy's level is randomly chosen based on the highest-levelled member of your party. This counts all units on your 16-man roster, regardless of whether you actually bring them into battle. If we call the level of this highest-levelled unit 'HiLv': enemy level = ((HiLv - [HiLv/8]) .. HiLv)

VARIABLE NONRANDOM: This scheme is used for certain enemies in random battles and is especially prevalent in the Deep Dungeon. If we use the same definition of HiLv as above: enemy level = HiLv + K where K is some constant (in practice, it ranges from 0 to ~24)

In all cases, the maximum level that can be generated is 99.

>>713335060 (OP)
The best FF are V, XII and Tactics.
Normalniggers soicucks can mulattozoomers keep seething

>>713362349
Why?

>>713365661
Characters, sense of adventure and whimsy, pacing, the job system, the music.

Game's so good they still haven't let go of this motherfucker to this day