It's an okay game but it's a bad Zelda game

>>713337524 (OP)
Best Zelda game. It's the game we were promised 40 years ago.

>>713337629
I wasn't promised goyslop

>>713337524 (OP)
100%. I'd argue they're not even Zelda games.
same for BotW.

>>713337629
You didn't play Zelda 1. Zelda 1 is more like a maze than a big empty map to wander around in.
You didn't even play BOTW/TOTK, or else you would know that meals are just a small quality of life thing, not a way to "overcome adversity".

>>713337767
>menu opens on the exact item he needs

Yup, TotK haters are confirmed low IQ retards.

>>713338767
>You didn't even play BOTW/TOTK, or else you would know that meals are just a small quality of life thing, not a way to "overcome adversity".

Another low IQ retard. Even the game's fucking tutorial teaches you this.

How do you survive the cold without protective clothing? One of the things you can do is cook a spicy meal to keep you warm.

Player using their own wits and resources to overcome adversity.

Why are you so stupid and easily filtered?

>>713337524 (OP)
It's a kino Zelda game thoughever.

>>713339578
>How do you survive the cold without protective clothing? One of the things you can do is cook a spicy meal to keep you warm.
You didn't know about it until I you about you it yesterday, you redditspacing retard. The tutorial also shows that potions and meals are a mere temporary stopgap until you can obtain armour with the same effects or better. By the time that you can actually make use of the cooking mechanic, you will likely already have the armour and the skill to make them largely irrelevant outside of a few quality of life meals. Even in places like Goron mountain, there is a potion seller at the foot of one of the hills, and depending on the route that you take, you might make it to the mountain without using any potions or meals at all.

>>713340032
>You didn't know about it until I you about you it yesterday, you redditspacing retard.

Are you fucking retarded? Serious question

>The tutorial also shows that potions and meals are a mere temporary stopgap until you can obtain armour with the same effects or better. By the time that you can actually make use of the cooking mechanic, you will likely already have the armour and the skill to make them largely irrelevant outside of a few quality of life meals.

Again you're fucking retarded. It is simply about choice. If I stumble across a Lynel in a snowy region I can remove my warm clothes, eat a spicy meal to keep warm and equip my barbarian clothes for an attack boosts.

Or I can equip my climbing gear to climb faster.

So many different options available to me to let me overcome all different kinds of adversity.

You clearly don't under game design or why BotW is highly regarded in this respect.

>>713337524 (OP)
I thought it was basically just breath of the wild but no longer novel and somewhat worse in most ways

I liked breath of the wild but it felt like a tentative first step, and I was hoping the next game would iterate a lot and fix a lot of its flaws. Totk really disappointed me, it just doubled down on everything I didn't like about the first game and didn't address any of its problems, while adding a bunch of new annoyances. I don't really have any faith in that team anymore if totk represents their process of making sequels

>>713340491
>it just doubled down on everything I didn't like about the first game and didn't address any of its problems, while adding a bunch of new annoyances.

Nah. TotK improves on it in every single way.

>expand the world
>better main quests
>better side quests
>better content
>better dungeons
>better shrines
>better rewards
>better enemy variety
>better boss battles
>better music
>better combat
>better exploration
>better abilities

Wrap it all with a level of polish and technical wizardy which baffles and stuns the entire gaming industry. Nobody here can name a better action adventure game on any system.

Wrong. Zelda began as an open world game and then they fucked up and did increasingly linear shit until we had Skyward Sword. Then they fixed it again.

>>713340252
>Are you fucking retarded? Serious question
No, but you clearly are. Go back.
>It is simply about choice.
AKA quality of life. Cooking is genuinely fun, but the meals are nowhere near as important as you claim.
>If I stumble across a Lynel in a snowy region I can remove my warm clothes, eat a spicy meal to keep warm and equip my barbarian clothes for an attack boosts.
Or keep wearing your warm clothes and eat an attack up meal for the same bonus. Or just fight it without any potions or meals anyway. Lynels can be fought at the cost of only a few arrows to stun the Lynel after parrying its attack. I hunted silver and gold Lynels for fun because they are well-designed enemies that are fun to fight.
>Or I can equip my climbing gear to climb faster.
Again, quality of life, not overcoming adversity.
>So many different options available to me to let me overcome all different kinds of adversity.
lol. Mixing and matching armour and meals/potions for the same effects is a minor quality of life thing (especially since by the time that you can cook the good meals, you will have the armour and skill to not need them), not "overcoming adversity". BOTW and TOTK are easy games that are aimed at children. The fact that you get filtered by Hinoxes does not make them difficult.
>You clearly don't under game design or why BotW is highly regarded in this respect.
No, I actually understand game design, which is why I can honestly talk about the good and bad parts of the games instead of relying on flowery language.

>>713340740
>better music
No, it manages to be worse. BOTW had some good tracks, but TOTK made them worse.

>>713340912
Zelda 1 was a maze disguised as an open world. The first thing that it tells you to do is to consult the manual. The manual walks you through the first dungeon, then gradually gives you less help. You can't just walk to Ganon without using glitches.

>>713340740
fiddling around with gluing shit together is way less fun than anything in the original game. They should have spend their time making combat deeper or something, there are like 100 different places where they could have tried to improve on botw instead of just keeping it the same or making it worse

>>713340984
>quality of life.

I don't think you understand what Quality Of Life means.

>Cooking is genuinely fun, but the meals are nowhere near as important as you claim

Yes it is. Or did you fail to grasp that most regions of the main quest will KILL YOU without the player using their own wits and resources.

Sure once you get to where you're you "can" buy clothing for that region. But some players may never find that shop, or even have the money to purchase them.

Continue being a retard.

>I actually understand game design, which is why I can honestly talk about the good and bad parts of the games instead of relying on flowery language.

This is why yesterday you suggested the game could improved by pointless bloating the menu systems and adding in weapon forging mechanics which would add absolute fuck all to the game and only make for a shitter experience.

Thank fuck you'll never make a game. It's like listening to a child.

>>713341054
Nah

https://youtu.be/DZb4wMnUyKM?si=NhU_7F99Y225Eu7N

>>713341150
The very medium of commercial games was less than a decade old, they managed what they could.

>>713341150
>You can't just walk to Ganon without using glitches.

You can't do that in BotW ot TotK either.

>>713341286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tt6JTj1e5A

>>713340740
>better shrines
i agree with everything but this

>>713341242
>I don't think you understand what Quality Of Life means.
Climbing a cliff slightly faster has no gameplay benefit other than reducing the amount of time that you need to wait for Link to climb up.
>Yes it is. Or did you fail to grasp that most regions of the main quest will KILL YOU without the player using their own wits and resources.
There are convenient shops placed right before you get to places where the conditions would eventually kill Link, plus useful equipment in shrines. Most of the map is not that dangerous, especially for a Link that is under the control of a semi-competent player. BOTW and TOTK are easy games that are aimed at children.
>Sure once you get to where you're you "can" buy clothing for that region. But some players may never find that shop, or even have the money to purchase them.
You're a complete retard and have done a great job of showing why discussion of this game is dead. Kill yourself.
>This is why yesterday you suggested the game could improved by pointless bloating the menu systems and adding in weapon forging mechanics which would add absolute fuck all to the game and only make for a shitter experience.
Not everyone that disagrees with you is the same person.
I'm done. Kill yourself, faggot.

>>713341292
Dotting content around an empty map like in BOTW and TOTK would have been easier.

>>713341371
In BOTW/TOTK, as soon as you complete the mandatory tutorial, you can gather some weapons and go straight to Calamity Ganon/Ganondorf. In Zelda 1, you had to do the dungeons and gather equipment that unlocked new areas. It was a maze.

>>713337524 (OP)
But is it a good BotW sequel and how does it rank as a Nintendo game

>>713339483
>just stop playing the game every 10 seconds to pick an item
wow this looks very riveting

>>713341926
>you can gather some weapons and go straight to Calamity Ganon/Ganondorf

You "can" if you've played the game multiple times and know exactly where to go and how to use the game's mechanics.

Nobody is doing that on their first try. They'd get fucking raped before getting anywhere near the castle.

>>713342006
Using an interface to directly inform and influence the gameplay is the literal definition of what a video game is.

>>713342218
I killed my first lynel on my first playthrough before even leaving the Great Plateau. Sorry about your lack of skill and your lack of willingness to git gud.

>>713342974
>killed my first lynel on my first playthrough before even leaving the Great Plateau

There aren't any but I appreciate the shit post.

>>713343707
>What is Master Mode?

>>713337524 (OP)
Nah, it's just shit.

>>713337524 (OP)
It's a shit sequel, that's what hurts it the most

>>713342974
it took me full soldier armor and multiple upgrades to kill my first lynel in totk, brutally hard