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Anonymous No.713342079 [Report] >>713342113 >>713342310 >>713342652 >>713343056 >>713343893 >>713344246 >>713344561 >>713344831 >>713345576 >>713346370 >>713346442 >>713349589 >>713350426 >>713350696 >>713352868 >>713354602
>saves video game optimization
Anonymous No.713342113 [Report] >>713342284
>>713342079 (OP)
buy an ad, spic grifter
Anonymous No.713342284 [Report]
>>713342113
How is she wrong?
Anonymous No.713342298 [Report] >>713342359 >>713342443 >>713342614 >>713343312 >>713343893 >>713344549 >>713345773 >>713351318 >>713351712 >>713352040 >>713352767
Why doesn't he just talk to these people? Demonizing them puts you on the wrong side of biblical legend.
Anonymous No.713342310 [Report] >>713342714
>>713342079 (OP)
His thumbnails are getting more kino with each video. He's 100% right btw, modern devs are lazy and incompetent and timmy tencent is optimising his engine only for fortnight and special fx fags.
Anonymous No.713342359 [Report]
>>713342298
The german DF troon flat out refused any debate because he knows he'd get ravaged.
Anonymous No.713342443 [Report] >>713342591 >>713343893 >>713352040
>>713342298
he has consistently called for dialogue with these people but none of them accept it and just ban and block him on every platform. what is he supposed to do?
Anonymous No.713342494 [Report]
Face in thumbnail = do not recommend this channel
Anonymous No.713342591 [Report]
>>713342443
Proof?
Anonymous No.713342614 [Report] >>713342664 >>713342735
>>713342298
Digital Foundry basically flat out refuses to talk to anyone. Their responses to forced ray tracing and Hogwarts Legacy demonstrated how they refuse to listen to alternative opinions
Anonymous No.713342652 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
He's so fucking based
Anonymous No.713342664 [Report] >>713342827
>>713342614
They have a stream where they answer questions
Anonymous No.713342685 [Report] >>713342898 >>713343649 >>713343701 >>713345576 >>713346217 >>713353392
the jeets fear the zoomer carmack
Anonymous No.713342714 [Report] >>713342818
>>713342310
fortnite is one of the worst running games ive ever played, like not just the average framerate, but theres also stutters AND microstutters. the idea that this is the flagship game of a game engine company is crazy
Anonymous No.713342735 [Report] >>713343039
>>713342614
>Hogwarts Legacy
Qrd?
Anonymous No.713342818 [Report]
>>713342714
same goes for the epic games launcher. its incredible to me how fucking laggy and unresponsive it is when you move between any tabs. it also has this really compact style that makes everything so big and jumbled together. fucking nightmare to navigate its store
Anonymous No.713342827 [Report] >>713343590
>>713342664
That they cherrypicked from their paying supporters and always about things which couldn't be considered controversial. When Alex / John were asked why they wouldn't cover Hogwarts Legacy they had a meltdown on twitter
Anonymous No.713342898 [Report] >>713342953
>>713342685
You're joshing right? This faggot and carmack are not even on the same planet
Anonymous No.713342953 [Report]
>>713342898
Sure thing, Ranjesh.
Anonymous No.713342998 [Report]
UE jeets DESPISE this man
Anonymous No.713343039 [Report] >>713343237 >>713346886 >>713347269 >>713351761 >>713351892 >>713351987 >>713353115 >>713353235 >>713353387 >>713353569
>>713342735
he deleted this but it should explain it
Anonymous No.713343056 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
king of vee
Anonymous No.713343097 [Report] >>713343135 >>713343143 >>713343192 >>713343306 >>713343429 >>713345576 >>713346259 >>713346320 >>713346363 >>713346379 >>713348752 >>713352968
>THREAT interactive
what did he mean by this?
Anonymous No.713343135 [Report]
>>713343097
He's a man with a vision.
Anonymous No.713343143 [Report]
>>713343097
just needs to grow his hair further out and he'll look like sith anakin
Anonymous No.713343192 [Report]
>>713343097
A threat to lazy shit devs with the name rajeesh
Anonymous No.713343237 [Report] >>713343452
>>713343039
His melt downs over covid shots then him concern posting over how bad America is so funny
Anonymous No.713343306 [Report]
>>713343097
These thumbnails are kino as fuck
Anonymous No.713343312 [Report]
>>713342298
because DF are shameless paid shills with 0 knowledge whatsoever and refuse to do it because it would expose them.
Anonymous No.713343391 [Report] >>713343560 >>713343617
Oh? Why do games still run like ass then? What exactly has the savior done?
Anonymous No.713343429 [Report] >>713346320 >>713350806
>>713343097
i fucking love his over the top evil chud aesthetic. the jeets tremble in his presence as he resembles Lord Shiva the God of Destruction
Anonymous No.713343452 [Report]
>>713343237
Was crazy when Linneman had the balls to say covid drove Ben Heck crazy
Anonymous No.713343560 [Report] >>713343710
>>713343391
embarrassed billions of jeets
Anonymous No.713343590 [Report]
>>713342827
Wasn't there a bunch of other controversy with that game that coincided? Maybe there's a better example.
Anonymous No.713343617 [Report]
>>713343391
youre expecting one man to single-handedly fix an industry so deeply poisoned to its core? he is merely the messenger carrying the good word and calling for change.
Anonymous No.713343649 [Report]
>>713342685
this one man destroyed the entire nation of india.
also kitbogo
Anonymous No.713343701 [Report] >>713343795
>>713342685
That's a face worthy of being beat into a pulp.
Immediate aggression the instant I looked at it.
Anonymous No.713343710 [Report]
>>713343560
Okay cool. But why do games still not run well?
Anonymous No.713343736 [Report] >>713343784 >>713343934
Why would DF bother to talk with some faggot obsessed with his 1080 or 770 or whatever decade old tech he thinks should still be running games? The answer's fucking simple retards, we made 4K TVs before we could make 4K games, and we've been chasing that shit ever since. You can run all this shit at native resolution on a 1080p monitor without any upscaling or frame gen, go do that and shut the fuck up
Anonymous No.713343784 [Report]
>>713343736
How much does nvidia pay you?
Anonymous No.713343795 [Report]
>>713343701
saar, we live on principle of non-violence in hindu!!!. that is reserved for our lord shiva not for you, untouchable scum!!! know your place saar!!!!!! How you can slap!?!?
Anonymous No.713343893 [Report] >>713343982 >>713355156
>>713342079 (OP)
>>713342298
>>713342443
Why the FUCK would DF waste time talking to some no-name grifter latching onto them?
Anonymous No.713343921 [Report] >>713344058
>this is fine actually
Anonymous No.713343934 [Report] >>713344385 >>713350127
>>713343736
explain to me why its acceptable that games look and run worse than games like titanfall 2 (source engine game, btw) or battlefield 1 from 2016 at 1080p?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDjOmnAIj8
Anonymous No.713343982 [Report]
>>713343893
because he is popular and the biggest counter culture voice in the graphics and performance industry on youtube? he has hundreds of thousands of views and 150k subs. i'd say thats worth something. what do you have to lose to speak with him if he is so wrong and retarded?
Anonymous No.713344058 [Report] >>713344123
>>713343921
You may not like it but this is peak graphics performance
Anonymous No.713344062 [Report] >>713350389
he'll never release a game because the illusion would shatter
Anonymous No.713344123 [Report]
>>713344058
we've finally retvrned to trvdition
Anonymous No.713344246 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
>the engine you can't be negative about or you come off as a grifter
40 fps on a 5090 btw. classic runescape looks better than this.

@threatinteractive ur doing a great job. fuck these shill bitches up
Anonymous No.713344385 [Report] >>713345840
>>713343934
speaking of that, was 2016 the peak of graphics and performance? i swear there were so many games that looked great and ran smoothly at that time. is it all nvidia moneylaundering thats caused all these pointless GPU's to come out after the rtx 30 series?
Anonymous No.713344549 [Report]
>>713342298
The DF zionists are afraid of him
Anonymous No.713344561 [Report] >>713344591 >>713345012 >>713345576
>>713342079 (OP)
what will happen to my gpu? i am scared
Anonymous No.713344591 [Report]
>>713344561
unlimited powah
Anonymous No.713344831 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
>shits on onlyfans
Anonymous No.713345012 [Report]
>>713344561
it turns gay
Anonymous No.713345346 [Report] >>713345720
i've always thought modern games looked shitter, ran worse, and were blurry. this guy came out and basically said yeah it's all true and here's why and gave really good breakdowns while exposing developer incompetence, so he's pretty cool in my book for that. plus his thumbnails are cringekino.
Anonymous No.713345576 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
>>713342685
>>713343097
>>713344561
KINOOOOOOO
Anonymous No.713345720 [Report]
>>713345346
yeah idk why so many people on here shit on him. he is the only slightly major voice speaking against the enshittification of games and advocating for better performance in games and thats somehow a le bad thing? swear i dont get this board sometimes.
Anonymous No.713345773 [Report] >>713345870
>>713342298
Why would you talk to an obvious grifter?
Anonymous No.713345840 [Report]
>>713344385
good graphics are like 80% direction and artistic craft. when you hand 300 dollar pencils and brushes to an intern, you're still going to get shittier work than from an actual artist that has a crayon. the industry just doesn't want to accept that, or they don't care. either way the only way they know how to cope is to slather the image in middleware effects like raytracing in an attempt to try to salvage it.

in a funny way, the industry will pay twice as much and work twice as hard to get something as a product than actually try to train or pay for someone to do it. i think it actually really bothers management when they feel like the people under them embody the real value of the company
Anonymous No.713345870 [Report] >>713345941
>>713345773
yeah it boggles the mind why would anyone wanna talk to the jizzeaters from DF
Anonymous No.713345941 [Report]
>>713345870
Stop shilling your channel, faggot.
Anonymous No.713346217 [Report]
>>713342685
>the zoomer carmack
Carmack made something in his life. This dysgenic basement dweller has yet to present 1 (O N E) single line of code.
Anonymous No.713346259 [Report] >>713346363
>>713343097
I tried
Anonymous No.713346320 [Report]
>>713343097
>>713343429
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyWAxROq1tU
Anonymous No.713346363 [Report]
>>713343097
>>713346259
HOLY
Anonymous No.713346370 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
He set back the anti-AAAslop movement back so much with his retardation. I hate him.
>has a chance and platform to actually address problems and offer solutions
>spends all his time seething about TAA and just advocating for forward rendering without even realizing it
>begs for 900k dollar donations for a product he's yet to show even a shred of evidence for
Anonymous No.713346379 [Report]
>>713343097
same energy
Anonymous No.713346395 [Report]
Buy an ad
Anonymous No.713346442 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
hello Kevin, nice thread
Anonymous No.713346886 [Report]
>>713343039
Uh oh, is someone mad about Rowling's belief in 2 genders and trying to shit on the franchise as a result?
Anonymous No.713347269 [Report]
>>713343039
based
Anonymous No.713348752 [Report]
>>713343097
He's so dang dramatic
Anonymous No.713349589 [Report] >>713349909 >>713350002 >>713351217
>>713342079 (OP)
Who’s this I why do I care
Anonymous No.713349909 [Report]
>>713349589
>guys i dont care here is how much i dont care do you see that i dont care even though im asking who is this because i really REALLY dont care actually *hmph*
Anonymous No.713350002 [Report]
>>713349589
>de Mayo de 2018
Anonymous No.713350127 [Report] >>713350485
>>713343934
games looks way better than titanfall 2 lol
Anonymous No.713350193 [Report]
God has gifted us with the existence of an autistic Patrick Bateman with a taste for the dramatic who hyperfocuses on computer graphics. This timeline is incredible.
Anonymous No.713350389 [Report] >>713350457
>>713344062
DF never released a game too
Anonymous No.713350426 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
if his constant call outs fixes retarded devs i dont care
Anonymous No.713350457 [Report] >>713350524
>>713350389
Digital Shilldry at least don't ask for donations based on the promise they'll release a game with it.
Anonymous No.713350485 [Report] >>713350606
>>713350127
yeah man
Anonymous No.713350524 [Report]
>>713350457
>ask for donations based on the promise they'll release a game with it
Source? I didn't see it in the video.
Anonymous No.713350606 [Report] >>713350843
>>713350485
This is a 7 year old game in which you turned antialiasing off.
Anonymous No.713350696 [Report] >>713350916
>>713342079 (OP)
Reminder:
Anonymous No.713350764 [Report]
wasnt he kicked from the graphics programming discord?
Anonymous No.713350806 [Report]
>>713343429
kek same
Anonymous No.713350843 [Report] >>713351030
>>713350606
yeah dude
Anonymous No.713350916 [Report]
>>713350696
Why don't you change the discord name to make it more believable?
Anonymous No.713351030 [Report] >>713351112
>>713350843
This is a graphically overambitious game that was criticized for in on release vs a universally reviled game made by diversity hires and troons.
Anonymous No.713351112 [Report] >>713351213 >>713352120
>>713351030
one runs great on last gen hardware, the other barely runs on current gen hardware
Anonymous No.713351213 [Report] >>713351347
>>713351112
>older game runs better on hardware that came after its release, new game doesn't run well on hardware that came before its release
Say it ain't so!
Anonymous No.713351217 [Report] >>713351415 >>713351497 >>713351671
>>713349589
He calls out Digital Foundry (Europeans) for nepotism to give good coverage of video games in exchange for exclusive pre-release access to footage. The company Crytek responsible for Crysis did several PR videos with DigitalFoundry for their Remaster games. The Crysis thing is harmless because nothing came of it that we wouldn't already know, so I should've said "alleged" nepotism to be neutral.

The other thing is he says a lot of unqualified game developers are passing the back of coding to the metal by telling the engineers to rely on AI upscaling and FrameGen instead of hard work doing optimization and LOD models. Classic example is how Fallout/Bethesda tier open world games of the PS3 and X360 era had different levels of details for the surrounding world, the farther away the less intensive models would be used before being dynamically swapped as the player gets close. In the modern time the developer like PS5 and PC Forsaken would be rendering the entire game 24/7, including bosses that have 4K testicle textures that aren't on-screen. Some PC nerd looked at the poly count for the dragon and they never optimized it at all, zero LOD models.

A lot of lazy shortcuts are being used today. In the past you would have to make "PS3 version", "PC version", "Xbox 360 version". Today they make a PS5 version and roll the dice on what the PC version looks like. This is my personal opinion but the death of exotic hardware (PS2, PS3) led to this future of lazy game developers. Persona 5 is a PS3 era game that ran on 512MB RAM with the Cell processor. Outside of Expedition 33 (questionably AAA), not many AA games can match Persona 5 which was built for 2006 PS3 hardware. Lazy. Developers.
Anonymous No.713351318 [Report] >>713351581 >>713355292
>>713342298
Because he's a nobody with no clout
All he does is tell PC mutants what they want to hear, that it's the devs fault the latest game doesn't work on their pre owned Tandy from 1986
Anonymous No.713351347 [Report] >>713351612
>>713351213
>older game looks better than the newer game
I'm afraid so!
Anonymous No.713351415 [Report]
>>713351217
>The other thing is he says a lot of unqualified game developers are passing the back of coding to the metal by telling the engineers to rely on AI upscaling and FrameGen instead of hard work doing optimization and LOD models
Not really, he doesn't say that. He's actually in favor of using automated AI methods to generate LODs. All he's saying is that current rendering methods sacrifice important aspects of image quality too much, and render pipelines are now designed in a way that offloads the work to the customer's hardware instead of having the developer do his job in the first place.
Anonymous No.713351497 [Report] >>713351728
>>713351217
P5 looks like dogshit, don't confuse pleasing aesthetic for graphics and performance
Anonymous No.713351581 [Report]
>>713351318
Modern game also doesn't work on consoles.
Anonymous No.713351612 [Report] >>713351825
>>713351347
>new game doesn't run well on hardware that came before its release
More powerful hardware, you mean? You're proving his point.
Anonymous No.713351671 [Report]
>>713351217
Reminded me of Silent Hill remake where Bloober just render the whole town and use fogs to mimic the OG instead using the fab and lod system like bethesda hence the dogshit performance for something that can be tweaked
Anonymous No.713351712 [Report] >>713352016
>>713342298
His videos are not aimed at developers, his videos are smartly aimed at catering to crowds of people like himself: people with aged hardware who are really getting frustrated by badly-bad-together games made by incompetent non-programmers, and want to hear someone validate their frustration. He's not wrong to be frustrated but he is a bit disingenuous to pretend he's making a real concerted effort to talk to developers. At best he's just bringing angry attention to a problem.
Anonymous No.713351728 [Report] >>713352503
>>713351497
The point is that you can get a lot out of a 512MB RAM machine with an odd processor like the Cell in 2017 (yes, Persona 5 released then). Modern game developers with 16GB VRAM unified pool are hanging themselves.
Anonymous No.713351761 [Report]
>>713343039
>It's children bullshit
newsflash faggot, every video game is meant for children
men don't play games
Anonymous No.713351825 [Report]
>>713351612
>newer yet produces a worse result
What is the point of this? To sell more cards?
Anonymous No.713351892 [Report]
>>713343039
Hope this ugly piece of shit kills himself, also fuck him and his shitty wrong and bad "opinions"
Anonymous No.713351987 [Report]
>>713343039
Pathetic excuse to avoid covering it when it's blatantly obvious the retard was afraid of the tranny backlash.
Anonymous No.713352016 [Report] >>713352165
>>713351712
>His videos are not aimed at developers
You never watched his video. It's literally frame analyzing tool and presentation slides.
Anonymous No.713352040 [Report]
>>713342298
>>713342443
He DMCA strikes anyone who tries to debate or make a video response to him.
Anonymous No.713352120 [Report] >>713352274
>>713351112
They're both unreal engine btw
Anonymous No.713352165 [Report] >>713352371
>>713352016
>You never watched his video. It's literally frame analyzing tool and presentation slides.
I watched all his videos. Many of them are retarded as fuck if you're familiar with the subject matter and look past his confident & angry tone.
Anonymous No.713352274 [Report]
>>713352120
Unreal engine 3 vs unreal engine 4 to be exact.
And so far, 5 hasn't been much better.
Anonymous No.713352295 [Report] >>713352489
The issue with modern vidyas visually is a lot like practical effects vs. CGI in film. Well-crafted practical effects still hold up to this day and look better than CGI, and the same is true of the old "tricks" video games used to perform to give us "fake" reflections, shadows, etc. Performance-wise it's like the difference between pre-calculating mathematically intensive values versus calculating them in real-time. Instead of doing the work beforehand and hardcoding the shit you actually need into the game, they do the equivalent of making the end user run all those calculations instead, every single time the game is run, and the calculations needed to simulate light rays and other meme features are extremely resource-intensive. There was no consumer demand for raytracing at all, the 20 series was a massive flop compared to the 10 series, and tech like RT and DLSS has lead to games looking worse, not better. No one asked for this.
Anonymous No.713352371 [Report] >>713352637
>>713352165
elaborate
Anonymous No.713352489 [Report] >>713352678
>>713352295
Raytracing means instead of 6-8 months spent on prebaked lighting, they can do it right away. The issue is the consumer console and PC aren't equipped to handle it at native 4K 60FPS. And AMD technology does it worse with a bigger performance hit (consoles, PC). We can sit here and blame NVIDIA all day long. And I will stay here because it is NVIDIA's fault.
Anonymous No.713352503 [Report] >>713352884 >>713353329
>>713351728
The Persona engine crapped itself with Metaphor. I don't know why you're acting like it's great optimization when the P5's asset polygon count/sheer graphical complexity is shit. There's a reason why they focus a lot on UI and 2D presentation.
Anonymous No.713352510 [Report]
The issue is real.
But him looking weirdly disgenic doesn't help the situation.
Anonymous No.713352637 [Report]
>>713352371
I'll just copypaste the old post I wrote:
His Jedi Survivor video is a textbook example.
He focuses on the depth pre-pass which takes up 0.63ms, that totals only about 3% of the frame. Reducing that to half its time by tuning down some sampling would (if you were previously running at 60fps) only improve the framerate to 61 fps. There are way way bigger issues with Jedi Survivor's performance than getting 3% more performance from the GPU, a lot of which is overzealous and stupid use of Blueprints even for things as simple as character pupil contraction.

Yet he pretends passes and drawcalls are somehow the game's big performance problem and rants about quad overdraw even though it's completely unrelated to the game's issues. He talks about the 1700 drawcalls killing the performance but without actually measuring their CPU cost it's a moot point, as they take very little time to execute on the GPU - hell, you can SEE by the graphs he shows in his own video that all of the 1700 drawcalls are completely invisible on that graph so he's not showing any proof of high performance cost. He's just relying on his angry-confident tone to sell the story.

Jedi's actual performance issues on the consumer end are caused by UE4's poor asset streaming tools and the unfinished PSO caching, also its awful usage of Unreal's anti-merit Blueprints system. Almost none of this manifests as bad GPU-side optimization, it's needlessly heavy CPU load and PSO stutters. But hey that's a bit more complex to access than just fucking around with the console or the UE editor or shitty engine.ini tweaks so how would he know?

His videos are like this all the time. His starting points are 100% correct (shit optimization to due to bad development priorities and lack of dev talent) but his videos fall apart when he tries to get into the nitty gritty. His supposed "fixed TAA" is also silly because he essentially just recreated FXAA.
Anonymous No.713352678 [Report] >>713352813
>>713352489
Forcing every consumer to run an expensive raytracing simulation every time they fire up your game instead of utilizing the talents of competent artists that will produce a more visually appealing end result is delusionally misguided. The issue isn't that consumer hardware isn't "powerful enough", the issue is the principles (or lack thereof) behind this "solution" in the first place.
Anonymous No.713352767 [Report]
>>713342298
DF doesn't want to get into discussion with anyone out of fear that their technical knowledge will be exposed. This isn't the first time they've been called out for their hypocrisy. A smaller channel called them out over their Gears 5 analysis and they threw a tantrum over it.
Anonymous No.713352813 [Report] >>713352970
>>713352678
>utilizing the talents of competent artists that will produce a more visually appealing end result is delusionally misguided
There's nothing artistic or inherently wonderful about baking the lighting of a game. It's just a long process because it computationally takes a long time, it's closer to waiting for an alarm clock than it is to a process of wonderful creation.
Anonymous No.713352868 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
How many video games has he actually made?
Anonymous No.713352884 [Report] >>713352987
>>713352503
I hate to be that guy but the Persona 5 engine is the same one as Catherine. And let me give you the sticker shock, Catherine (PS3, X360) was using GameBryo. Same as Persona 5. Yes, THAT Bethesada notorious engine.
Anonymous No.713352968 [Report]
>>713343097
he's becoming too powerful...
Anonymous No.713352970 [Report] >>713353269 >>713353442
>>713352813
An artist going over many iterations of how to light a scene and utilizing his artistic talents before deciding on the final result will always look better than slapping RT on a game and calling it a day. Older lighting techniques were far less resource-intensive and far more visually appealing.

https://youtu.be/hZYfLNIinOc
Anonymous No.713352987 [Report] >>713353137
>>713352884
You got it confused a bit.
Catherine (PS3, X360) = Gamebryo
Persona 5 = new custom engine
Catherine Full Body = custom engine from P5
Anonymous No.713353115 [Report]
>>713343039
Funny considering John is always pushing the Sonic shit on the channel. TSR did not need a technical analysis.
Anonymous No.713353137 [Report] >>713353216
>>713352987
Maybe their custom engine just like upgraded gamebryo
Anonymous No.713353216 [Report]
>>713353137
It would make sense that they got inspired from it.
Anonymous No.713353235 [Report] >>713353692
>>713343039
Was he always this fat?
Anonymous No.713353269 [Report] >>713353570 >>713353613
>>713352970
>An artist going over many iterations of how to light a scene and utilizing his artistic talents before deciding on the final result will always look better than slapping RT on a game and calling it a day.
The artist can do this with RT too, he just doesn't have to wait an eternity for the baking process to finish before he can see the result.
https://youtu.be/DZfhbMc9w0Q?si=hiAtqr8T8rG-6u3g&t=764
Anonymous No.713353329 [Report]
>>713352503
Ultimately the results on screen matter. Great for P5, less so for Metaphor.

They're going for UE anyway now.
Anonymous No.713353387 [Report] >>713353447 >>713353921
>>713343039
He's 100% right. Harry Potter was always shallow, woman-brained crap. 4chan has always known this but has only recently started pretending otherwise because the author has turned against troons.
Anonymous No.713353392 [Report]
>>713342685
the retard doesn't even want to write his own engine, stop comparing him to carmack
Anonymous No.713353442 [Report]
>>713352970
>will always look better than slapping RT on a game and calling it a day
Who says artists don't light scenes with RT? It's just gonna be WYSIWYG without bakes in between adjusting things.
Anonymous No.713353447 [Report]
>>713353387
zoomer movie only retard
Anonymous No.713353569 [Report]
>>713343039
Is this a confession that he sucks tranny dick? sounds like it
Anonymous No.713353570 [Report]
>>713353269
Yeah no need to put RT on player's end. Artist can just bake what he did with RT into the game.
Anonymous No.713353613 [Report] >>713353786 >>713354052
>>713353269
Is there any reasong RT couldn't be used during the creative process, then the results be baked so the expenses of calculating the lighting in real-time aren't passed off to the consumer?
Anonymous No.713353692 [Report]
>>713353235
Remember when he had the fake Scottish accent?
Anonymous No.713353786 [Report] >>713353980
>>713353613
>Is there any reasong RT couldn't be used during the creative process, then the results be baked so the expenses of calculating the lighting in real-time aren't passed off to the consumer?
It can. Warhammer 40K Darktide does this, all the lighting was initially made with RT but then the results were copied to bake that light. That's why RTGI looks nearly identical to standard lighting in that game, except it's a bit more reactive.
Anonymous No.713353921 [Report] >>713353971
>>713353387
>because the author has turned against troons.
and that's the only reason that retard is buttblasted, the quality of the show it's irrelevant
Anonymous No.713353971 [Report]
>>713353921
>show
Anonymous No.713353980 [Report] >>713354225
>>713353786
>RTGI looks nearly identical to standard lighting
So other than laziness and trying to sell more GPUs, there is no reason to force real-time RT onto end-users at all?
Anonymous No.713354035 [Report]
You can cope all you want but RT is the future.
the only problem is that the future isn't now yet
Anonymous No.713354052 [Report] >>713354197
>>713353613
Open world (too big to bake)
Very dynamic environment (too many situation to bake)
Anonymous No.713354197 [Report] >>713354505
>>713354052
>Open world (too big to bake)
Could you not bake different layers or sections? I know some Monolith Soft games simulate real-time dynamic lighting by doing something like this.

>Very dynamic environment (too many situation to bake)
Could you not just apply dynamic lighting selectively to objects that are more likely to be in motion, on top of static lightmaps for everything else?
Anonymous No.713354225 [Report] >>713354398
>>713353980
>So other than laziness and trying to sell more GPUs, there is no reason to force real-time RT onto end-users at all?
There is only if the user wants more from the lighting than he'd get from baked lighting. I mentioned RTGI is a bit more reactive in Darktide, RTGI there can make sense because there's a shit ton of effects and particles and ragdolls and all that looks way better with properly cast light, baked lighting can't account for all that. When a tox flamer lights up half the screen with fire you'll instantly know the difference between standard and RTGI lighting.
But it should never be mandatory.
Anonymous No.713354398 [Report] >>713354550
>>713354225
>There is only if the user wants more from the lighting than he'd get from baked lighting
How many such users do you think exist? Enough to make RT a driving feature of every new game?
Anonymous No.713354480 [Report] >>713354596
It will never stop being funny seeing the poojeets come out of the woodworks every time this man is mentioned
Anonymous No.713354505 [Report]
>>713354197
>bake different layers or sections
LOD makes it lower quality than RT methinks.

>just apply dynamic lighting selectively to objects that are more likely to be in motion
that's still RT and still expansive
Anonymous No.713354550 [Report] >>713354616 >>713354627 >>713354850 >>713355848
>>713354398
>Enough to make RT a driving feature of every new game?
Some customers wanting slightly better lighting isn't the reason RT is being pushed, RT is being pushed so developers can push out more games in smaller time frames because baked lighting takes a long time.
Anonymous No.713354596 [Report] >>713354715
>>713354480
>a simple cup object shouldn't have nearly 20k triangles dudes
>SOURCE?????
>WHAT'S YOUR QUALIFICATION? WHERE'D YOU GO TO GAME DEV SCHOOL? FIVE REFERENCES NOW.
I have a difficult time understanding why there's such a huge smear campaign against this autist.
Anonymous No.713354602 [Report]
>>713342079 (OP)
He keeps yapping and yapping but where are the actual results that you can test yourself?
Anonymous No.713354616 [Report]
>>713354550
>RT is being pushed so developers can push out more games in smaller time frames
Is that occurring?
Anonymous No.713354627 [Report] >>713355024
>>713354550
>baked lighting takes a long time
just use RT when baking?
Anonymous No.713354715 [Report]
>>713354596
>I have a difficult time understanding why there's such a huge smear campaign against this autist.
Want to take a wild guess?
Anonymous No.713354850 [Report]
>>713354550
The main reason it became a thing was Nvidia wanted to yet another gimmick the competition doesn't have. Maybe it's less of a gimmick now but it sure was with the 20xx series when it was just puddle and car reflections in select games.
Anonymous No.713355024 [Report]
>>713354627
You just don't get it CHUD. Light baking programs only use CPU and they can never ever ever ever ever change over to GPU because... they JUST CAN'T OKAY???
Anonymous No.713355156 [Report]
>>713343893
>why would a company want to counter allegations made by someone who is rapidly hurting their brand image, the only thing they actually profit from?
Anonymous No.713355292 [Report]
>>713351318
>it's the devs fault the latest game doesn't work on their pre owned Tandy from 1986
How do you get that from
>games that came out 10 years ago look better and perform better on worse hardware than today (shows proof)
?
Are you just making things up?
Anonymous No.713355438 [Report]
>mention the switch 2 is actually 400p
>shill campaign begins

Lmfao it happened IMMEDIATELY after their switch 2 vid. Now, the industry hates them for some reason lmfao
Anonymous No.713355719 [Report]
ANAKIN NO
RESIST THE DARK SIDE
Anonymous No.713355848 [Report]
>>713354550
This. You fags need to wake up and realize most graphical gimmicks of the last 5 or so years are primarily dev-oriented. RT and its derivative forms exist so devs spend less time on lighting, Nanite exists to spend less time on LODs, Neural Texture Compression when it comes out will exist to allow devs to get away with just dumping textures in without a care, temporal rendering exists to allow devs to not give a shit about motion aliasing, etc. There's no current or upcoming graphical gimmick that's primarily made with the purpose of making your games run better other than the DLSS/FSR meme.
Anonymous No.713356032 [Report] >>713356782
Digital Foundry has been shilling Pathfinding Raytracing. Explain the distinction to me. Or is it just another NVIDIA feature set that AMD consoles and AMD PCs lack so it tanks their performance? Tale as old as time btw.
Anonymous No.713356782 [Report]
>>713356032
"Raytracing" is a scam, it's usually just standard raster with some partial RT elements slapped on top of it. Usually a combination of screen space effects and ambient occlusion, combined with RT diffuse.
"Pathtracing" is actual real raytracing where every single ray of right fully bounces. Except even this isn't technically full time raytracing because its samples are collected over time to preserve performance, which is why if the sample count is really low it can look noisy and needs advanced denoisers to look good.