>>713386041>but most of the time notHe doesn't literally need to cry to be a pussy bitch. How he interacted with other people showcased how fundamentally different and weak he was. Game Joel exemplified the strong silent type, he'd let Ellie vent without it hurting his feeling, and he only ever really opened up to a handful of people like Ellie and his brother. Meanwhile show Joel cried in front of a fucking THERAPIST because Ellie told him off. What a joke.