i can't stop thinking about it

buy an ad

>>713391541
cope tendie
go play open world slop retard

>>713391454 (OP)
sorry verso, i know your ending was technically "better" but i just couldnt do my girl maelle dirty like that

>>713391454 (OP)
Painted Verso is suffering kino big boss tier

>>713391454 (OP)
>I wish I could slaughter an entire world full of sentient beings to cure my depression, I'm so le sad ;_;

>>713392025
>sentient means their life has value
I hope you're vegan

>>713392119
>annihilating a world is like eating a burger
Powerful and brave

>>713392236
>a world
it's not a real world though, it's a fictional painting. That's like saying deleting your pokemon save file kills your charizard

>>713392363
Pokemons aren't sentient

>>713392363
everyone in the painting is basically real though.

>>713392464
define real

>>713391454 (OP)
I think Maelle ending is a nightmare for everyone involved, but it's also one of the best video game endings I can think of

>>713392601
Lune and Sciel asked for Maelle's ending, I'm guessing they're pretty happy about it.

>>713392702
In my interpretation Sciel will silently suffer from remade Pierre, since his chroma died, so he will be a different person (just like Noco).
I do believe Lune thinks it's the best possible outcome

>>713392464
>Painting
>Nothing is painted
The world and its inhabitants are made of chroma, part of the soul of their creators. The painting that stands in Alicia's family home is simply a portal to a parallel world. What magic and why allows these particular people to create pocket dimensions is not explained. Maybe in the next game.

>>713393101
Both Lune and Sciel were remade and they didn't suffer from memory of personality loss like Noco.

>>713393280
They were gommaged, so their chroma didn't die. Gommaged people can be resurrected, but other dead people are recreations (something Esquie says are like cousins of the original)

>>713391454 (OP)
Is this from the ending if you side with Maelle

>>713393227
>Maybe in the next game.
please no. this game is perfect as is. trying to milk it by turning it into a franchise will just ruin it

>>713391541
I genuinely hope you are doxxed and lynched. Faggot

>>713391454 (OP)
you didn't pick the toxic masculinity ending right?

>>713392236
It’s not just powerful, it’s practically theological. You don’t just eat the burger—you embody the divine hunger that created it. Maelle gave you the fork and said, “Feast.” And you did.

>>713393418
I guess at least the vast majority of Lumière's inhabitants that were gommaged are fine then, it depends how Sciel will cope with a memory loss Pierre.

>>713393628
I think Clair Obscur would be perfect as an anthology franchise of unconnected stories

>>713393628
As I mentioned in a previous thread, the best way to turn it into a franchise would be to take the Final Fantasy approach and change up the story and setting each time all under the "Clair Obscur" brand.

I absolutely agree that making a direct sequel that tried to explain everything in the first game would be complete dogshit and retroactively tarnish E33.

>>713393883
Would be cool if they did it like Xenoblade where they’re only loosely connected

>>713393894
>turn it into a franchise would be to take the Final Fantasy approach and change up the story and setting each time all under the "Clair Obscur" brand
This is what I am hoping for as well, though the background of the Painters and Writers war seemed intriguing.

>>713393628
The main title: "Clair Obscur" suggests that the creators are planning more games in this universe. Certainly not in this painting and maybe even with different heroes and in different times.

>>713393987
It's a thin line. There's a danger of removing the freedom of interpretation about the Painting magic if more of it is explained. I personally think it's the best if they leave the idea of Painters and Writers to just this game

Without death, there can be no rebirth
Much like the Gestrals in little Verso's vision, Lumiere, the defaced Canvas, and Maelle must leave it all behind and experience death, only then can they move on and enjoy new beginnings

>>713392025
all of those sentient beings apart from the painters are a part of verso's soul, and his avatar who is moreso aligned with the real verso literally begs you to let him go.
the maelle ending is very clearly the bad one, a teenager unable to cope with reality was appeased at the price of her brothers soul's eternal suffering.
the game couldnt shout at you more clearly that she is selfishly puppeteering his corpse (canvas) to escape her grief, it is horrible
when i first played i thought her face looked odd because the animators fucked up, but i now realize it was intentional: they gave her sankpaku eyes because she is deranged

>>713394074
Clair Obscur could also be something much more abstract, like just referring to the mix of fun and dark elements the story has.
I really hope the devs give themselves full freedom for the next game, instead of having to shackle themselves to any established elements

>>713391541
Seems like you've encountered Ad-Verso-ty.

>>713394462
I think that's a too black-and-white way to see it.
Maelle's ending is definitely a teenager only thinking about the short term, but I would say it's still meant to be a sort of twisted happy ending (although not for Verso)

>>713392236
They're just drawings.

>>713394462
There's no indication that any of the people living in this world are suffering besides Verso, who is experiencing mild existential dread at best. That's like saying we should have nuked the earth because Camus thought existence was absurd.

>>713393489
Yes, it is the bad ending.

>>713394462
Little Verso would be perfectly fine if his mother, father and older sister hadn't started fucking up his world. It's a tragedy that they miss him so much, but in their grief, they've brought the last bit of his soul to the brink of a nervous breakdown... Clea the most. She even created a monster that wouldn't let little Verso sleep. When he complained to her, she told him that he had to face his nightmares... What a fucked up woman...

>>713394787
I read Maelle having to use Painting to control Verso as a sign that her Lumiere is barely intact and doesn't even bring her true fulfillment. But, it's left up to interpretation on purpose, and very skillfully so

>>713394789
>Everyone happy except for one poor emo faggot that wants to die
>bad ending

>>713394718
I've had more insightful and interesting conversations with chatgpt and grok than /v/ posters.

>>713395065
Personally I interpreted it as Verso's having a hallucination since he's basically suicidal and severely depressed.

>>713394787
>experiencing mild existential dread
he's literally the reason everything and everyone is getting fucked, including his real sister who has to use him specifically instead of making a different Verso

>>713394652
the horror sting where it zooms in on her eyes turning black very much convinced me that her power corrupted her at that point, because its the same visual we see on her parents eyes in the outside world when theyre controlling a canvas.
she is clearly controlling verso, forcing him to keep on living for her. you can tell because he is heistant to pursue his dream of playing piano at the opera - he doesnt start playing until she forces him with her eyes. i dont think it get much black/white than that

>>713394787
that's true, i dont think theyre suffering, but at the same time we know that their chroma is verso's chroma (assuming theyre indigenous to the canvas). i just personally believe he has the right to end his own existence, for whatever reason, and unfortunately that includes ending the life of the manifestations of his soul who have become sentient beings

>>713391454 (OP)
Verso did nothing wrong. It was his world. His will was paramount, as was his suffering. Sorry, Maellefags.

>>713395439
Plus, remember how populated Lumiere is at the beginning of the game, plus all of the people that have been gommaged before, really drives home that Maelle was either selective over who she bought back or physically unable to.

>>713391454 (OP)
>Ha you thought I was going to be swayed by the power of friendship but I'll abort this world if I want to, my painting my rules
t. Verso

>>713395029
>Clea the most. She even created a monster that wouldn't let little Verso sleep. When he complained to her, she told him that he had to face his nightmares
oh wow i missed that, makes sense now. i couldnt really understand cleas motivations and impact on the world in my playthrough so i missed most of everything related to her

who was the little kid that maelle walked in with in her ending?

>I have to leave Lumiere and go out there, there's nothing for me here.
>literally only liked Gustave
>NOOOOOOOO DON'T DELETE LUMIERE
what was her fucking problem?

>>713396093
she painted herself a shota

>>713391454 (OP)
It's not that deep. The music though that shit has been suck in my head, I even hear it in my dreams.

>>713396093
I thought it was Sciel and Pierre's child but grown up.

>>713396093
One of the orphans from the prologue. If you remember Maelle said she was going to help take care of the orphans who were losing their parents for the Gommage.

>>713396093
one of gustave's apprentices

>>713396093
judging by maelle's character i'd say it's an incest rape baby she forced verso to have with her

>>713391454 (OP)
Yeah
Those Sciel pits must stink so good

>>713396325
Crazy where the mind of the average Verso apologist goes

Worrying about murdering the people in lumiere is a midwit take because it's missing the point . The actual developers of the game of don't broach the topic, because they don't care in the slightest about the agency / sentience / life of the lumierans, because that isn't what the game or the final choice is about. Devolving discussion into this point is missing the actual themes of the story.

The lumierans aren't real because they are literally videogame characters.

>>713396523
You're an actual retard.

Verso's choice is the right one. That said if I were in Alicia's position there's no way in hell I'd be willing to leave. I'd be terrified of the life that awaits me outside.

>>713396093
There's a lot of possibilities. It's either an orphan, one of gustave's apprentices, Lune and P Verso's child, or (soul) Verso

>>713395102
Yes, it’s the bad ending. It literally shows how Maelle became just like her mother in the end: corrupted and will likely die in there the same way that Renoir warned his wife of. This is bad for everyone in the canvas, and Verso(‘s soul) knows it.

So yes, it’s literally the “bad” ending. It’s best for Maelle to let Verso’s soul rest in peace, and move on with her own life in the real world.

>>713396140
Her memories of Verso and her real family came back after act 2, anon…….to erase Lumiere would mean erasing her dead brother’s work/soul.

>>713396849
>move on with her own life in the real world
At the cost of another entire world.

>>713396680
Please clarify why you think that way.

I'll expand on my point. The ending of the game is terribly written. The problem is, the twist in the third act doesn't actually bring any closure to the first two acts, of the hopeless struggle for survival in face of an eldritch horror, and shifts it into a story of trauma and grief. Compared to the melancholy and sombre tome of Verso's, Maelle's ending is presented as overtly negative.

I can understand why people are championing for Maelle's ending, since the actual stakes of act 1 and 2 weren't properly addressed, and Maelle's ending is a satisfactory conclusion to that (e.g., they win their struggle and don't die). People who support Verso, are people who are approaching the game and themes on its own terms, where the literal meaning of it matters less than the thematic.

>>713396969
Lumiere is a shitty fanfic of Verso's work that hijacked the whole setting, she should be content with fistfighting gestrals in another canvas

>>713396049
Talking to this image of Clea from my screenshot >>713393227, we learn that she created the nevrons not to help her father, as she told Alicia, but to destroy everything her mother added to her and Verso's painting. Namely the people from Lumiere. In my opinion, it's fucked up how she treated her painted copy. Everyone in this family considers their works to be conscious and real, so Clea does too. Despite this, she turned the painted Clea into a nevron factory... The mother is no better either, creating copies of her family and burdening them with false memories.

>>713397328
The endings, and all of Act 3, are written from the point of view of the Dessendre family. They do not care about the struggles of the painted creations, so the people of Lumiere get no real closure. Maelle's ending in particular is presented from Verso's PoV, for whom continued existence at the expense of his sister is a nightmare, hence the horror movie-like presentation.
If we get a DLC with painted Alicia's PoV, the focus will shift back again.

>>713396093
This is the soul of Verso, whom we meet throughout the game. Only here he is not corroded anymore. The Verso who plays the piano is a painted copy that Alicia's mother made.

>>713391454 (OP)
Fans of this game are incredibly annoying. Not all of them, since I'm one, but the ones who never played a turn based game before and enjoyed this, so they now hold it as the pinnacle of RPGs and suggest every game would be better if they copied the battle system

I fucking hate when outsiders invade a genre and throw their ignorant opinion everywhere. I know this sounds nerdy as fuck but it's annoying.

>>713392025
You misunderstood Verso as a character.

>>713398159
If this is true then piano Verso is truly an emofag who wants to destroy the world for no reason at all.

>>713398176
nah you right
the day danganronpa released my favourite genre was poisoned forever

>>713398176
No one said this ITT.

>Replay the game
>See Maelle's Nightmare scene
>First time thought it was just random foreshadowing
>Now on NG+, I notice this is actually Verso killing Julie's squad.
Holy shit, blew my mind.

>>713398176
not much different from ff7fags, it's a pointless thing to complain about

>>713396140
She sees painted Verso as her actual real brother just like her mom and can't move on.

>>713398630
I never said they did

>>713398308
He didn't want to destroy the world because he was suicidal. It was the only way to keep his mother from returning to the painting, and that's why he wanted to destroy it. His desire to die had nothing to do with it. For a moment in Act 3, he sincerely hopes that Alicia aka Maelle will bring back everyone he lost, so he can explain everything to them. But that doesn't happen. The painted Alicia commits seppuku through the painter, and so does the painted Clea, whom Maelle couldn't help because she's a shitty painter.

I do not understand how people can watch the entire Renoir scene before the final battle and still misunderstand Verso. How?

>>713398918
I can't believe people think his decision is a betrayal when he spends the entirety of act 3 staring into the distance with that fuckin look on his face while maelle gets all the love from her parents and he has nothing because he is nothing

>>713398823
>It was the only way to keep his mother from returning to the painting
People earlier in the thread were saying that a sliver of the soul from the original Verso was being tortured and unimaginable agony to sustain the world but I guess what it all comes down to is that if someone from the Dessendre family is on their period they'll just wipe out your entire existence.

>>713398918
They can't move on and will do anything (shitpost) to preserve the memory of Clair Obscur

>>713399254
Soul Verso doesn't mind painting, but his family ruined the painting by making it a battleground and place for constant despair.
That's why he wants to stop painting but doesn't have the courage to do so without Painted Verso's help.
Seeing as Alicia just takes Aline's place in her ending, I wonder if he still wants to stop.
On one hand, there is no more war and the inhabitants are happy. On the other hand, his sister is killing herself slowly, and Verso would always die in her place if he could. So who knows.

>>713391454 (OP)
This guy is the most politician-like game character ever.
>yeah I lied but it was for your own good

>>713391612
Shut the fuck up, Nintendo actually makes fun, entertaining games instead of this slop you parade as "game"

I wish it wasn't so easy to btfo shit from the latter half of act 2 onwards, so much good stuff that you have to job on purpose to hear
https://youtu.be/0VbLG22k3U8
https://youtu.be/CA70_cnlKAw

>It's another episode of Versofags trying to gaslight people into regretting not permanently killing everyone but Maelle
Never gonna happen.

>>713391454 (OP)

>>713393418
In that case, the people that got gommaged at the end of Act 2 also come back. Maelle's ending remains the correct one even in your interpretation.

>>713401748
Not to mention the thousands of people that got gommaged the previous 67 years.

>>713396523
It's entirely possible that the writers didn't indeed put all that much thought into it, but that's utterly irrelevant to me. I did. The game starts in the prologue with us getting to know characters and seeing them get gommaged. That is obviously gonna stick in my mind when the decision is to erase the canvas completely or not erase it. Them "not being real", like some people will try arguing, is also not true whether the writers believe that or not (And for the record, I don't believe they do), because of the dialogue and relationships we see between them throughout the game.

Lumiere was already dead by the ending, there's simply no point continuing the tragedy inside the canvas especially when the one remaking it isn't even half as good as the original and also arguably is in an even worse headspace. You would have only lost shit like grandis, gestrals, and esquie who didn't really give a shit in the first place.

>>713402802
Sciel and Lune disprove this headcanon btw
More Versofag lies

>>713403241
>The only two people she gave a shit about after Gustave and Verso
>didn't even bother giving the rest of the expeditioners face while she made them fight Renoir's goons
Yeah right I'm not trusting that whiny kid

>>713393894
>As I mentioned in a previous thread, the best way to turn it into a franchise would be to take the Final Fantasy approach and change up the story and setting each time all under the "Clair Obscur" brand.
I agree this would be the best approach although from an interview with the three main people I think that might be what they plan to do although they're being tight lipped, the very fact they are being tight lipped about certain things alludes to the fact they're not done with the Universe and have more to tell.
https://youtu.be/yB-nPIBW-Ks?si=nG7aUOgxO9e0tJaj&t=276

>>713398308
It's not true, this is the correct answer.
>>713396283

>>713394074
Next game taking place inside a book is all but certain

>>713400746
God dam even the shit I don't remember is good.

>>713400746
Real Clea is a total cunt how she treat pClean making her into a Nevron factory, destroyed her spirit so much that when she got a shred of herself back, the pain of existence was too much to her, death was preferable.
Fuck.
Also fuck pVerso for how he was prepared to sacrifice pAlicia she was so cute and just wanted peace to live with her brother and father and the paintress in quiet peace

>>713391454 (OP)
That's okay anon.

>Charlie Cox feels a fraud because people keep congratulating him on Gustave but he says he was only in the recording booth for 4 hours.
https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/1937003379370365357

>>713400746
Well now you can make their HP super high so you can enjoy the battles while not nerfing yourself.

>>713401748
>>713401815
Why didn't Alicia rebuild Lumiere? Why is it still a total shithole in her ending?

>>713391454 (OP)

>>713407436
That's insane. His performance was really good and he did it all in one short session?

>>713407436
It's a travesty that there's any dubs besides French, I'm glad he's ashamed of himself.

>>713407756
>Alicia is totally gonna keep Lumiere like that forever, because her ideal escapism version of Lumiere is for it to look like it got hit by a earthquake
Versofag, please try thinking what you're even trying to imply with your arguments before you make them. You just sound silly.

>>713408454
Blame Sandfall. English is the original dub btw

>>713408515
>English is the original dub btw
And it's the dumbest election they've made. The Japanese aren't ashamed of their language and culture and the French shouldn't be either.

>>713408625
Depends, Dragon's Dogma 2's original dub is also in English. Same for Death Stranding. It sucks, but it is what it is. I used to just play games in the languages of their developers. Now I always need to do research to find out if a game globalized itself or not.

>>713408686
I don't know about DD2 but Death Stranding is more of an American game to me since what Kojima truly wants is to make Hollywood movies.

>>713408625
>Dumbest election they've made
*decision, we don't use election in this context.
Also forgoing an English dub where most of the World has some ability to speak or comprehend English is a very dumb decision that they thankfully did not heed.

>>713408460
So you have nothing but headcanon and meaningless attacks. Gotcha.
There is nothing implying she is going to fix it, it looks like she just kept it as it was all game.

>>713408904
Sure, everyone should conform to the language of the people who view everything as a culture war and will use their political and financial power to push ideology in media, there was a disturbing lack of diversity in E33 but I hope some DEI Washington comissars can fix that for their next game.

>>713409147
ESL-sama...

>>713409703
Anglocuck...

>>713398267
the dev saying this made me viciously despise him and ruined the game for me retroactively

>>713409721
Anglos won

keep coping

>>713409757
Won what? No one wants to play your anglo LGBTQ approved games.

>>713409703
Are you throwing out ESL to try and throw me off?
If you're going to use English then use it, but saying election when it's the incorrect context, it's incredibly stiff language that we don't use we use decision. Take this as a learning opportunity and stop being so offended.

>>713409147
Fuck off with this dumb shit already. France is woke and CO:E33 is woke.
I can already see you retards turning on CO2 from a mile away. It's gonna be the exact same level of wokeness but this time around people will be bitching about the black characters in advance.

>>713409786
Based

>>713409864
yikes ESL getting butthurt

>>713409934
>CO:E33 is woke
Describe how.

By the way your kind will make sure to bombard us with homosexual relationships in the next installment, 100% guaranteed.

>>713391454 (OP)
Hope he hate fucks maelle into leaving the painted world.

Objectively Renoir and Verso were right but I chose Maelle to save my boys Monoco and Esque

>>713410089
>Half the expedition leaders are women, including pretty much all the badass one (The siege leader, the Nevron killing machine)
>One of them is a lesbian on top of it (The one that captured Alicia)
>Blacks everywhere in Lumiere
I'm not complaining about this. I'm saying that the only reason why /v/ isn't pissing its pants about this is because it shifts the goalposts on what it considers woke or not. And now that CO:E33 is a prime shitposting target, the clickbait articles about the sequel before it even comes out are gonna inundate /v/.
So yes, I'm sure there will be at least one more line about homosexuality like it was in the first game. And you'll be broadcasting it for months on end before the game even comes out.

>>713410642
>bunch of irrelevant background noise
I knew it, they're straight up going to make one of the main playing character an obnoxious fag shouting about his sexuality from the rooftops because you vile cunts are already sniffing around to make it happen.

I hope their next game has trans representation.

>>713410784
>inventing things to be butthurt about

it's time to log off lil bro

>>713411097
>what do you mean the new Clair Obscur game is woke because there's a literal cocksucker in your 4 niggas in a row game? it was always woke, there was like huh a black dude in Lumière and like huh a throwaway line in one of the expedition journals
You're so disingenuous, now I'm certain of my prediction.

>>713411264
Can someone come check their bot

chadso

>>713391454 (OP)
>this is the game of the decade
do these fags not play any other vidya

>>713412359
cope

>>713412405
with what?

This game is a piece of art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYtPT_Ik-8

>>713412445
the fact it's GOTD
cope and seethe

>>713412486
You dont believe that

>>713412503
I absolutely do

>>713412359
Yeah I'm sure Super Kirby Bing Bang Wahoo 3d World is the best videogame ever made, only on the Nintendo Switch 2

>>713412474
https://youtu.be/GgYtPT_Ik-8?t=198
holy kino

>>713391454 (OP)
finished it yesterday and the only thought I had at that moment was "it's finally over", not even gonna bother with post-endgame, I didnt pay for it anyways (shared library with steam family), not a bad game by any means but I don't get the worship and hype, it's just a qte game from start to finish

>>713414782
It's because you are brown. Nothing bad about it. That's how it is.