What went wrong?

>>713393827 (OP)
RE engine.

ppl expected dd1 but finished instead got dd1 but unfinished in other worse ways

NO
MOOON

>>713393827 (OP)
conveniently targeted mass disinfo psyop

It turns out it's really hard to make an engine that can do open-world, and it turns out the Japanese engines people thought were good actually aren't very good if they're rendering a scene more complex than a hallway.

shouldve been dlc

>>713393827 (OP)
Everything.
>People thought we'd get a game filled with all the unused content they couldn't put in DD2.
>Instead we got DD 1.5, but with worse performance and missing vocations

>>713393827 (OP)
He wasn’t outside the start town to kick your ass.

>>713394059
the japanese tech industry is all fucked up culture-wise

seniors cant admit that they lack skills to do certain things because muh loss of face
management is not allowed to get rid of them because muh 1 job from graduation to retirement
talented juniors are not allowed to be promoted to lead positions because muh respect of elders

all in all it means that all japanese companies end up being washed up in the end. its why japanese fighting games only got rollback 20 years after western games. the seniors in teams like capcom kept making excuses that rollback was too hard (it wasn't, they just didn't want to learn how to do it)

>>713394059
The entire map felt like hallways anyways, with the exception of towns, who ran like shit.

It's worse than the original.
>No Everfall
>No Ur-Dragon
There literally is no proper endgame. The unfinished "ending" felt like an entire half of the game was cut.

>>713394047
This. OP is a discord tranny btw.

>>713393827 (OP)
Same thing that happened with DD1 pre dark arisen. Still fun.

>>713394471
Its so funny to me that one of the most successful IPs out of Japan came about because an accountant was given an IP everyone thought was dead and no one cared about him or it. Then he made the entire Souls series a worldwide phenomena.

>>713393827 (OP)
The sphinx was a really cool optional encounter with a unique quest line attached to it. Itsuno said there would be many more things like that to discover in the world. There were not. There was not anything else in the world like that to discover. That's what went wrong.

>>713395602
Only retards pretend vanilla DD is in any way comparable to DD2, or that DA somehow saved DD.

>>713395863
DD2 posting is 99% Sphinx posting. It's as if there was only a single memorable thing about the game.

>>713394047
>>713394813
You lost

>>713393827 (OP)
nothing. i liked it. hope it gets dlc eventually

>>713393827 (OP)
you couldn't marry, have sex with, and have children with the sphinx

>>713393827 (OP)
I'll say the bugs and glitches, cause apart from that this is a 8.5/10 game to me.

>>713395954
Dilate tranny

They made an unfinished, empty, buggy, poorly optimized sequel to an unfinished, empty, buggy, poorly optimized game.
Its incredible how little was learned after 10 years.

>>713393827 (OP)
>What went wrong?

DD 1.5, as the other Anons have said.
Less overall content (*fewer monsters, armor slots, missing vocations), basically no memorable characters, story, or plot, the Dragon is the exact same Dragon (Gregori) and he hardly shows up at all, the "open world map" is designed in such a way as to severely limit exploration by being effectively taking place (mostly) on the side of a mountain, the RE engine has the camera too fucking close to your character, and the post-game is on a timer.
*Some of the monsters like the Sphinx and the Colossus can only be fought once a playthrough and don't even drop any materials, weapons, armor, etc.

Some people have commented/video essayed on the "meta-aspects" of DD 2 and even in those aspects I think it failed because the start of the game is such a pointless fucking slog that very, very, few people will ever actually get into the post-game where all of the actual world-building and plot happens. The "fake world" game section is like 10 hours and the "real world" game is 3 hours.

DD2 in a way kind of reminds me a little bit of early jrpg game design for the snes/pc/ps1? That period of gaming where they'd spent a lot of time and resources on a game with a compelling or experimental pitch, but then pad it out with mindless tasks and artificial difficult created by a conscious lack of "quality of life" features.

PC rigs couldn't run it. ALWAYS look at the PC requirements for a game before it launches. From there you can gauge how much seethe and anger the game will get at launch.

1000 series recommended settings = "Well optimized! Awesome game! Maybe even favorite game of the year so far"

2000 series card recommended settings = "Game isn't that good and really overhyped. Plus it's not optimized all that well anyway. I don't see anything that my PS3 couldn't run"

3000 series recommended = "GAME IS ABSOLUTE TRASH! And it's HOW much money? Easily the worst game I've played this year. And it's HORRIBLY unoptimized! These graphics look like something my PS3 could have pulled off!

And it goes from there. You have some exceptions like Stellar Blade for obvious reasons, but by and large, keep this in mind and you'll be able to predict /v/ meltdowns better.

Lethal copium intake

people trusted itsuno to finish what he started.

>>713393827 (OP)
>wrong
what do you mean? the game is a blast.

>>713393827 (OP)
the story, writing and quests were all extremely barebones, it felt like something a single guy just threw together on a weekend as the skeleton for the game to build upon, but they just took it and shipped it

>>713398870
based blaster

>>713395972
You can enjoy it and still think the game is a hot mess.

>>713402370
i dont think its a hot mess. its not perfect but still worth playing i think

>>713393827 (OP)
They forgot a sequel is supposed to be an improvement, not the exact same flaws in a prettier package.

>>713402432
>a game where the story completely gets forgotten half way through isnt a hot mess
I still recommend it to friends but its a fucking dogshit game. If it wasnt Dragons Dogma, it would be shit on by everyone.

>>713402775
well you are certainly entitled to your opinion

>>713402863
Quit typing like a fag, its not an opinion, you're just being retarded.

Questing system/dialogue was outdated, made it hard to track in some instances. The lack of monster variety meant you were always going against goblins/bandits/wolves every 2 minutes, which was made worse when you go to Batthal. No proper fishing. Dungeon variety was CAVES and was obviously blocked off since there was hints of the elven side of things. Didn't mind the vocations, however trickster should be renamed to illusionist like the japanese translation and that vocation required stronger enemy ai to react properly. Gear acquisition was an afterthought which suggests a rush job, because gear should be acquired through MEANINGFUL and INTERESTING dungeons rather than just buying them from the towns. Maybe expand on equipment variety rather than just a linear progression, allowing for different playstyles. Mystic Spearhand should've remained as Mystic knight and instead have a proper spear+shield class. I enjoyed the outfits for Mystic Spearhand but locking them to certain vocations was not a good limitation. No snow/mountain map which was a shame. Needed a proper fishing minigame similar to Fantasy Life. Exploring was fun despite these downsides. Story is obviously dumb but that's always been Dragons Dogma, the strengths are in its feeling of ADVENTURE and PARTY. Should've copied Monster Hunter Wild's meal variety rather than just pork.mp4 during camping. Needed more monster variety.

it will be refined in a next-gen rerelease that adds a new part of the map to the game, OKAY? TRUST THE PLAN!

>>713393827 (OP)
>no nipples
cowards

>>713393919
No one will say this, but C# is the reason why RE Engine sucks. They chose their scripting language badly.

>>713395921
i'm retarded then. i'm a fucking idiot because i believe a DLC which adds new content would help with this game's lack thereof, little bitch? because the first DD was somehow so popular that it didn't need a full rerelease on all platforms? you're a little bitch. die

>>713402924
oh sorry friend

Just feels unfinished and badly supported.

If Crapcum wants to be known for anything other than Slop Fighter at this point they should go back and put further resources into the game to fix their image.

>>713403054
sphinxes dont have nipples you idiot

>>713404143
prove it

>>713404143
they do where I'm from