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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:33:20 AM No.713399620
steam
steam
md5: 58a4cfb88b078f55768714d9e956f03f🔍
>you don't own your own games they are just licenses!
>use goldberg emu to crack them and obtain DRM free legal copy of all your games.

heh nothin personal. Let's admit steam is the best platform to date.

It gives people cheap games that are safe and can be owned and played offline.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:37:07 AM No.713399868
>>713399620 (OP)
You still don't truly own them. If you did, you'd be allowed to copy and distribute them without repercussion. Copy protection only enforces copyright laws, it doesn't erase those laws outright. This was always the point of DRM, to prevent you from just uploading/downloading ROMs to/from ROM sites.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:38:52 AM No.713399981
>>713399620 (OP)
I just buy them on gog
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:39:57 AM No.713400042
>>713399868
>one person buys game
>uploads it to internet
>now no one needs to buy the game
>industry crashes and dies
this board is full of absolute fucking retards
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:42:27 AM No.713400178
>>713400042
I'm just saying, you're fundamentally mistaken about what the whole "licensing" thing entails. The entire point of selling you a "license" is so that you can own a copy of the game without the legal right to distribute copies of it.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:43:12 AM No.713400225
>>713399868
Nobody complained when PC discs had DRM through key activation, securom and they had to be inserted.

In the modern era we have cheap ass blurays that can burn any game and we can buy steam games for $2 and crack them easily in 20 seconds if they just have steamworks DRM, you own them more than you did in 2005.

Gamers are spoiled hyprocrites and will fork up for nintendos horrendous game key carts but then bash on steam that gives you clean files just because it's "digital"
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:45:32 AM No.713400381
>>713400225
nigga what, everyone hated securom
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:46:24 AM No.713400437
>>713400178
Thats not a steam problem though, that's a game publisher problem. Valve has no choice because they are just a distributor that gets a fee, they didn't make the games or the rights to them. It's always been like this since 2003.

People will pirate and burn their steam games to bluray regardless. If you paid for a game with your own money and labor, and burn it on a bluray you would be hard pressed to find any court in america that would even try you for a crime. You own it, just as much as you own the right to a bluray movie you bought in a store.

If someone steals the disk from you, It's your property, it's theft.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:50:41 AM No.713400728
Main problem is that modern games require online for some reason. So even if you can play a game offline, they won't work.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:55:53 AM No.713401042
>>713400225
>Nobody complained when PC discs had DRM through key activation, securom
Yes, we did complain. It's just lost to time in people's memories. Different sorts of cancer came along since like GFWL and then a new idea of DRM was formed in peoples subconscious.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:06:56 AM No.713401714
>>713399620 (OP)
>break copy protection
>it's legal, guys
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:08:58 AM No.713401848
>>713400437
>Valve has no choice
So who stops Valve from
- having a filter for DRM'd games
- letting you download DRM free games via web browser (actually not applying DRM at all)
- not recommending additional DRM on their DRM webpage
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:28:59 AM No.713402942
>>713400437
Again, not the issue. Everyone who complains about "licensing" don't understand. When you buy a book, you technically only own a license. You only own that particular copy of that book, you don't own the words inside that book. Likewise, the reason you're sold a "license" is specifically to prevent you from having legal ownership over the game's code. If publishes stopped selling you "licenses" and instead sold you the actual game, legally, you would be free to copy and distribute that game as you please.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:31:26 AM No.713403086
>>713402942
How do you manage to stay alive?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:31:45 AM No.713403098
>>713401714
Who gives a fuck about legal?

The US sure don't, nor does big business (and in case I need to clarify that point, yes they follow the laws, but those same laws are often written by them/lobbied for etc)
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:32:30 AM No.713403139
>>713399620 (OP)
based
you have to convert saves, but there's a tool for that too
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:33:35 AM No.713403210
>>713399868
also this, until I can sell my digital copy I don't own the game.
Back when I had cartridges/disks I could sell them years/decades after I bought them and sometimes not only break even but make a profit.
fuck this gay digital only kike bullshit
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:33:43 AM No.713403228
>>713403098
>dark hands wrote this
>let's give the fat guy 30% anyway
>low IQ hands wrote this
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:41:11 AM No.713403634
>>713403210
The reason you can't sell digital copies is because it's incredibly difficult to prevent people from abusing it and even harder to enforce. Selling used items is a fundamentally physical thing.

Mind you, the Nintendo Switch's keycards kind of helps solve the issue but it also doesn't because so everyone hates it.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:43:18 AM No.713403761
>>713403634
>it's vary difficult
>but sell digital trinkets instead in casinos, that's super not difficult and fine
>also add DRM that creates e-waste out of functioning computers too
you will own nothing and you will defend it.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:45:07 AM No.713403863
>>713403634
"it's a service problem"
- some fat fuck, who fucks his so called customers in the ass and they take it like a champ
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:45:31 AM No.713403883
>>713399868
>You still don't truly own them.
I would rather "not own it" with a locally puchased and cracked copy that will never be taken away from me than a copy I can legally sell that can still be rugpulled from under my feet the second microsoft, sony or nintendo decides it be so
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:49:20 AM No.713404081
>>713399620 (OP)
you know anons say this you own nothing shtick just to get you mad, general population literally doesn't give single a fuck about this
and no talking about this doesn't make you special, piracy was always an option for preservation
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:58:52 AM No.713404576
>>713403863
>who fucks his so called customers in the ass
how?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:03:52 AM No.713404841
>>713404576
he takes his tiny dick out and then rams it into your ass and you don't complain at all.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:04:42 AM No.713404886
>>713401714
>>713401848
GOG is still a license and it has no DRM. If I burn a GOG game to a bluray, which they obviously intend for you to do, same with steam, I'm not breaking any law.

If I buy a bluray from a store, it's mine. If I steal it from a store its criminal theft, yet you dont own the movie on it.

It is perfectly legal to own a copy of your game you purchased, regardless if it is a license
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:04:55 AM No.713404901
>>713404081
I think the general population is ignorant to everything but does actually care when it affects them.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:06:52 AM No.713404996
>>713404081
Its not really piracy, copyright law doesnt really apply to anything in the real world unless its youtube or you're making massive amounts of money off it.

People own blurays with anime and movies and the discs and the media on it they still own it.

Someone can be arrested for stealing that disc from you and you have the right to rip the data off it, nobody will stop you. Copyright is a sham that no one not even the law enforces.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:07:04 AM No.713405006
>>713404886
no DRM, therefore miles better than Steam-slop.
>but but GOG
GOG aren't the ones who destroyed physical PC gaming, Valve is
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:19:47 AM No.713405710
copyright is insane
>yes i own this arrangement of 1s and 0s
INSANE
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:24:15 AM No.713405979
1745334615255153
1745334615255153
md5: 746659350485c2a6ef6115f43fc81d8c🔍
>>713399620 (OP)
>best platform
No physical games therefore no option to resell + too many trannies
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:24:36 AM No.713405998
>>713405710
>work for years
>no, everyone should be allowed to share it on the internet with everyone else
>sell 1 copy
nice try, commie
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:25:58 AM No.713406071
>>713399620 (OP)
How unbearable it is to use any other launcher is enough for Steam to be the best
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:40:44 AM No.713406831
>>713405998
>work for years arranging 1s and 0s
>why yes i copyrighted the english language and math what of it?
insane
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:41:00 AM No.713406846
>>713399620 (OP)
>legal
Wrong
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:49:10 AM No.713407258
>>713403098
>Who gives a fuck about legal?
White people.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:51:53 AM No.713407397
>>713404886
>which they obviously intend for you to do
No one ever "intends" for you to burn anything to a fucking disc, it's not the nineties.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:52:20 AM No.713407420
>>713399981
I'd like to buy a game released within the past 5 years, thank you.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:00:35 AM No.713407842
>>713406831
>oh wow, I moved these physical goods that I didn't create around
>I DESERVE MONIES
No, you don't.