Thread 713419108

>3 days until the Capcom Showcase

dogmabros... h... h-hold the line...

>>713419108 (OP)
They've already said what games will be featured, and Dogma 2 isn't included
>But what if it's a surprise!
Capcom doesn't do those in their showcases

>>713419108 (OP)
I don’t care about how disappointing the 2 was anymore.
I don’t care if we never get DLC or another sequel.
I just want to know the truth of what the fuck went wrong during this game’s development.

>>713419414
speaking negatively of a previous employer is taboo in Japan, so even if Itsuno left unhappy because Capcom cut development time short or only gave him a limited budget or whatever, we will probably never learn the truth of it.

>>713419414
Itsuno focused development time on the wrong features, and most likely had issues wrangling the RE engine to work on an open world game

>>713419414
>Capcom needed a big release for 2024 fiscal year so they rushed Dogma balls
>it was also a tech demo for Wilds/open world RE engine implementation and Capcom is retarded enough to believe that Dogma and MH are competing franchises so even more reason to release it early
That's about it really. I thoroughly enjoyed the game but it could have been so much more. If a DLC isn't announced despite its good sales I reckon it's going straight to the Capcom dead franchise graveyard.

>>713419178
so its just more Wilds update, Re, Onimusha and maybe a bit of Pragmata
meh

>>713419108 (OP)
What a massively disappointing piece of shit this was. At least we still have DD1.

>>713419108 (OP)
>DD1 comes out
>it's dogshit
>/v/ praises it

>DD2 comes out
>it's dogshit in precisely the same ways as the first game
>/v/ shits on it

explain this phenomenon

>>713420017
I can't explain you being a retard anon

>>713419570
So take a flight to the west and trash talk those bozos.

>>713419108 (OP)
lmao, you cant go on dates with the whore so no thanks. i hope itsuno burns in hell

>>713419950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tte4gF83N-M

I hope this goes somewhere...
I'd pay a lot of money for real modding tools to be developed for this game that could give us new stages and monsters.

>>713419108 (OP)
>kills all discussion and pawn posting of the first game
It's crazy how much damage this game caused to the fanbase

>>713419836
>3.7 million sales after a year
>good for an AAA RPG

LOL it's 2025 not 2005. These days it's a minimum of 10 million to be in the "good" selling catagory for an RPG, and even that is dwarfed by the likes of ER or BG3.

>>713420189
RE engine is easy to work with, relax

>>713420017
everyone was hoping they fix this game being a jankfest but also having more content instead of becoming the same game with graphic performance issues.
Also +dei -lolipawns

>>713420159
I don't get it, all I see in that teaser is the same stuff found in the base game but with displaced enemies

>>713419108 (OP)
Sry
Reserved for a better game

>>713420321
dont forget the less content anon, they had very little enemy variety compared to the first game that it is sickening.

>>713419108 (OP)
what if they announce a crossover with gifrel?

>>713420175
Most of the good vibes of the community came from replaying the game while awaiting the inevitable sequel and how that would improve things. The sequel being disappointing just killed all hope with it. People aren't gonna share their re-plays of DD1 as easily when there is nothing to look forward to anymore.

>>713419883
No Onimusha, but Street Fighter will be featured

>>713420189
you are retarded.
The only metric that shows this game to be anywhere close to a disappointment was, that it didn't surpass the first game in sales.

Capcom however learned from both DD2 and Wilds that fan outcry matters very little and they can happily chase the new audience, because fans will eat it up anyway.

>>713420358
new weapons, not just re-skins of existing ones. But the main point of that trailer was the last few seconds, he has managed to bring in the DaS1 world. He paid a dev to create a tool for him to be able to do it

>>713420358
Yeah it does a bad job at showing the key points.
Basically after all these years we have reached a level where we can add weapons and armor models without having to replace already existing ones. Spawn enemies in areas they weren't before. And recently that bit at the end where we can possibly make custom maps.
It's still very early and a pain to do so apparently.

>>713420560
Onimusha will have a playable demo at Gamescom which is in like 2 months. They did the same thing last year with Wilds. Unless there is another showcase soon, how can it not feature Onimusha.

>>713419108 (OP)
If they didn't mention this game at all, then there is 0% it will be shown.

>>713420575
cope all you want, 3.7 is objectively poor for an AAA RPG after a year. To pretend that DD2's sales figure is "good", you have to pretend that actual good selling RPGs doing 15-20 million+ in the same timeframe don't exist.

>>713420775
I don't know, but it is not featured here https://www.capcom-games.com/showcase/spotlight/en-uk/ , and Capcom has pretty much always been upfront about the games that will be featured in these spotlights.

>>713420189
3 mil sales at full price in the first few months. As much as I love DD1, the majority of sales past its first million were from $5 steam sales.

>>713421025
Doesn't change anything. To be good by todays standards that means being compared to other AAA RPGs released recently, not the original from over a decade ago. The world has changed, previous big franchise names now only selling a few million are considered flops while the new leaders of the RPG umbrella are selling ~20 million full priced within a year.

>>713420840
anon, barely any rpg even manages to even reach 10mio.
Every Xenoblade game sold less than DD2. You are completely delusional about sales.

Come home, white man

I liked it and a lot of people’s expectations were retarded
>dude there’s gonna be 30 vocations

>>713422551
I might. They should add an option to hide damage numbers if they haven't already.

>>713422551
Got a bit bored by the time I reached S2. I enjoyed checking out a new world and fighting the new enemies, but it's just not the same.

>>713421519
every xenoblade is a nintendo exclusive tho, dd2 is multiplat

As disappointing as it was compared to the first I still really enjoyed it, kills me thats all we're going to get from the series now.

>>713421409
>new leaders of the RPG umbrella are selling ~20 million full priced within a year.
Name five.

I blame the RE Engine first and foremost, then Capcom rushing it and then Itsuno for making some bad calls as well.

>>713422957
>I blame the RE Engine first and foremost
DD2 should have come out in 2018 and made in the MT Framework. Imagine an open world looking more or less than MH World, being able to reuse assets from DDON and not running like shit. What could have been...

>>713422689
I'm playing now trying to get to Bloodbane/Bitterblack as soon as possible because I'm burning out a little too, the Bitterblack dungeon crawl roguelike mode thing sounds fun so that's my goal

>>713423072
I love MT Framework but using it for open world stuff would get us nowhere.

>>713421519
>Wukong: 20 million within a month
>Elden Ring: 20 million first year
>BG3: 15+ million first year
>Hoggy L: 20 million+ within a year

But sure, keep pretending dogma 2's 3.7 million is good for an AAA RPG after a year, despite the fact indie title Clair Obscure did 3.3 million within a month and has very likely already surpased DD2 lmao.

>>713423148
>Bloodbane/Bitterblack
have they added being able to hire pawns there?
>>713423164
worked fine enough for dogma 1

>>713422551
Playing this the last few weeks and having a blast

>>713423234
>worked fine enough for dogma 1
Dogma 1 had a lot of sudden landscape pop-in. But I'll at least agree that more realistic graphics was the least of my worries.

>>713423072
Itsuno was knee deep with DMC5 at that time. Capcom only let him make it if he used RE Engine and to be fair that engine works very well for small levels and linear design. It runs very smoothly there but shits itself with open world.

>>713419414
all you and you tranny faggot buddies can do is conjure up wild speculations as a cope mechanism for DD2 being a blast and a success for capcom.

>>713422806
nice goalpost nigger.
So Xenoblade is a success, but if Nintendo ported it to PC it would be flop?

>>713423202
>I just listed the biggest success titles of recent years to prove that everything else is a flop
only one out of those 4 you listed is even an RPG
I guess they are all flops too because Botw sold almost twice as many copies without being multiplat

>>713420017
they took the cunny out

are the mods worth a replay or nah

>>713420017
You would expect that the next game in the series would improve, but it didn't... it got worse

>>713424030
>reeee this Dragons Dogma game plays like a Dragons Dogma game reeeeeeeeee
what is this phenomenon of autist tranny faggots crying and screaming that everything in this world should cater to their mental illness?
Dragons Dogma is a very niche series you negro, dont like it stay out.

>>713424169
So you liked 2?

>>713423798
A guy who worked on Stalker Gamma made a pack for it, heard it's okay but doesn't change that much. One of the things was you can't buy gear from shops anymore, only weapons, and randomized the gear into the chest loot pool (tied to zones, so no endgame stuff at the start) to try and make exploration feel more rewarding

>>713424214
Course! its a blast!

>>713424169
>spergs out
>calls others mentally ill

kek, the negative reception of DD2, instantly dead playerbase and no signs of DLC has left the most ardent of the fanbase completely mindbroken

>>713424030
It did improve retard, faggots acting like DD2 did NOTHING better are just disingenuous losers

>>713424332
if you niggers didnt believe that DD2 didnt have a strong fan base you wouldnt be making daily anti DD2 threads. you only do it because you know its a loved game by many and shitting on it like a retarded nigger faggot is guaranteed yous and many times a thread hitting limits

>>713419108 (OP)
MOST ANTICPATED GAME OF 2023 AND BEYOND
MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF 2024 AND BEYOND
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT OF 2024
ALL VOTED FOR BY /v/ - VIDEO GAMES

>>713424491
I never said anything about its "fanbase". I said it's a shit game

>>713424243
sounds interesting. Do you happen to remember the name of the pack?

>>713424385
>instantly dead
yet no other dead game gets this much love or hate on here. you would think a dead game would be long forgotten. not even wokong, the most shilled game ever on here and supposedly the best single player game of all time, gets as much attention on here than DD2.

>>713424551
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1150

>>713424416
Post improvements

>>713424650
thanks friend

>>713424518
its a very niche series, understandable if its not for you.

>>713424815
Sure, I just dont get people who praise 1 and shit on 2 when they've got the same flaws

I remember how hard they jerked off the camping mechanics only for it to be a half-assed feature.

>>713424841
>I just dont get people who praise 1 and shit on 2 when they've got the same flaws

>>713424841
2 shouldn't have the same flaws as 1 though, don't you get it?
And as i said, in some aspects, DD2 is worse than DD1

>>713424841
who are you quoting? I love both.

>>713419108 (OP)
tfw kept it installed for over a year, waiting for them to finally fix the performance. uninstalled yesterday cause its never happening. but hey, I learned my lesson. never ever preorder dumbass

>>713425013
I've kept it installed because I keep telling myself I'll finish it eventually and I just never bother. The dragon fight was so fucking bad I didn't even bother with the unmoored shit

>>713424958
>flaws
what flaws you nigger? both games are a blast and thats all that matters.
you are literally crying that you didnt like the first game and the second one was more of the same.
in other words its not for you, faggot. stay out.

>>713424950
Go on, I'm listening.

>>713425072
I loved vanilla DD1 before any of you fags got into it through DDDA.
DD2 was just a big disappointment for me after all the hype it received.

>>713424612
games get shitposted against all the time on here, there's barely a moment without steam chart threads or flop threads of some variant. DD2 just stands out because even by SP game standards, its player base and sales dropped like a rock post-lauch so its easy to poke fun at.

But there's nothing special about anons making fun of DD2, it happens every day to many games. You're just butthurt because have a weird parasocial relationship with DD for whatever reason which makes you feel personally attacked when people shit on it.

>>713425094
You obviously aren't. Try reading the thread.

>>713425310
right, keep lying to yourself, nigger.
see you on the next daily DD2 thread.

>>713425310
Nta but these threads are a very blatant coordinated effort to try and control the narrative around DD2, Wilds threads are the same way

>>713425374
aaaand he's gone

I had a lot of fun with DD2, but the poor performance on launch killed a lot of my excitement for it
I've been taking a long break before I go back to it and play through again, maybe with some mods this time.

>>713425374
>ABLOO BLOO 2 DOESNT HAVE LOLIS
wow riveting argument

Maybe you'll get another JPEG!

>>713425072
>no replyable end-game area
>no hard mode
>skill slots reduced
>layered clothing removed
>same enemy count as vanilla DD1 despite the map being 4X the size so its the same shit enemy variety spammed over and over and over
>somehow made a worse story
>sluggish movement

>>713425497
>I don't get why people hate Tetris 24 and not Tetris 1
>it's literally the same game

>>713425740
Oh NONONONONO

Using RE engine for an open world game is absolutely fucking retarded, but at least it isn't unreal engine heh guys? Amirite?

>>713422551
Does DDO have a spear class>?

>>713419570
This. I'm still at Phanton Pain being incomplete and Kojima and his retarded fanbase yelling "fuck Konami!" without explaining what the fuck happened during development. But in DD2 it was probably the mess of getting an open world game running in RE engine and the little time they had to reproduce the DD feel in it. Still, i'm glad that DD2 got made and it wasn't anything terrible as people made it to be. A sequel or an expension would breath some much needed life in it, but without Itsuno or someone really interested in the game, it'll go nowere.

Holy shit they're going to add all the missing vocations!

>>713425862
yes

>>713425862
Kinda
It's called spirit lancer

>>713419108 (OP)
LOVE ISN'T ALWAYS ON TIME

>>713425950
>>713425969
nice, time to download dogma rising then

Where is my NG+ Crapcom? What the fuck. Why don't you want your game to have longevity? How do you fuck this up when you're the fucking masters of logenvity with MH?

>>713426024
enjoy, it’s a blast.

>>713425862

Spirit Lancer is as close as you'll get.

>>713426024
But don't start with it.
The class Trainer is in season 2

>>713425769
Ugh what's this? Standards? I never had an issue with any of this. Works on my machine! You're not allowed to complain about things you know. We are lucky, LUCKY to have been blessed with a sequel. Be grateful, be better!

>>713424309
Based. The combat is better in 2. Just wish we got more spell as sorcerer

>>713425793
Habitual yearly slop eaters:
"But isn't that a good thing? Can't wait for Tetris 25!!"

>>713425793
We're not talking about DD 24 thoughever

>>713424416
>2 steps forward
>200 steps back
Wow super duper worth the 12 years and $80 dollars

>>713425836
do I prefer piss or shit on head? both are bad

>>713426250
>reeee this Dragons Dogma game plays like a Dragons Dogma game reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeee

>>713426335
Mind broken

>>713426335
Embarrassing dude

>>713426374
says the nigger crying about Itsuno San’s masterpiece on a daily.

>>713426335
I cringed

i used to laugh at dragon's smegmabros and i still do

Why was the music so ass?

>>713425896
>without Itsuno or someone really interested in the game, it'll go nowere.
Kinoshita is still there, but I feel like they'll just leave it now. In the end I think the failure was the RE engine not being able to handle open world.

>>713425769
>no replyable end-game area
Not a thing until ddda. The unmoored world is better than everfall tho.
>no hard mode
Oh no, no x4 exp mode with unlimited gold and zeal.
>skill slots reduced
Core skills are improved, tusk toss costing 0 stamina is great. Only Sorcerer got hit hard by this
>layered clothing removed
True. Dd2 equipment system is abyssmal
>same enemy count as vanilla DD1 despite the map being 4X the size so its the same shit enemy variety spammed over and over and over
Yes we need an endgame DLC
>somehow made a worse story
Both are the same shit. At least dd2 has the cool title drop
>sluggish movement
This is true. I play the game on 1.2x speed and it's much smoother.
You forgot to add how they killed jumping and parkouring.
>>713425897
Where's my bloody knuckles the tavern brawl run? They even added the uppercut.

>>713426771
composer went freelancer. Capcom keeps bleeding as much talent as they bleed fans

>>713420017
>DD1
>animation canceling, 6 active skills, mystic knight, two weapons per a yellow and hybrid vocation, rich post game etc.

>DD2
>no animation canceling, 4 active skills, numerous spells and skills cut for no reason, one weapon per class, poor post game
>noticably easier

It's not the same game. Not even close. I wish people would stop pretending they were.

>>713426847
>noticably easier
stop with that bullshit. DD1 was piss easy as well.

It's time to admit that capcom are a shit company again and have been for a while.

>SF6 - blatantly cut content to sell as DLC spam
>DD2 - charged $70 despite having bare bones content, has received next to nothing post launch
>Wilds - same, released with little content although it's at least getting free updates

Dragon's Dogma is a great concept with so much potential, but it's in the hands of a shitty company that has never given it more than minimum effort. I don't think Itsuno's new game will be a dogma-like, but I wish it was. I think DD has the potential to sit among the big hitters of the wider RPG umbrella - Souls, Witcher, Elder Scrolls, Baldurs Gate etc, the games people think about when they think of RPGs. DD could sit among them as the "adventure sim" RPG, it wouldn't sell as much but would still be mentioned as being the top of it's kind of its sub-genre. It's not going to happen under Capcom sadly, they clearly just don't care enough to put in the effort it needs.

should i get both of thesse games
both on sale

>>713426898
That's why they added a hard mode + speedrun mode to the game, for free.
What did DD2 got so far? A Patch to change something in the menu, some slight fps fixes and a journo mode, lmao

>>713426847
>rich post game
lmao

>>713426826
>Core skills are improved
False. The street fighter-esque times combos (where you have to time your button presses) like Dire Onslaught were removed.
Unique core skills were also removed. The fighter heavy attack for example was a guard break that even worked on Orges, the strider kick did bonus knockback and blunt damage
I also can't believe you would defend cut skills, anon. What the fuck? All of my beloved mystic knight ripostes are GONE.

>>713426964
no

>>713426771
everything was ass

the last 2 AAA slops I bought was wild and dogma2
both ran like ass

>>713426937
After DD2 was released project management shifted all the remaining stuff onto wilds

>>713426964
Only rise
It's better than wilds 100%

>>713426771
wilds music sucks, too. capcom is having a problem with music lately it seems.

>>713426898
>stop with that bullshit. DD1 was piss easy as well
I couldn't kill an Orge in 2-3 minutes at level 8 in Dragon Dogma 1 unless I knocked them off a cliff. In Dragon's Dogma II, I can casually kill an orge in 2-3 minutes as soon as I leave the tutorial. You cannot defend this bullshit.

>>713426826
>Not a thing until ddda
Shouldn't matter.
>The unmoored world is better than everfall tho
Nah. Changed Gransys + Everfall is a better combo.
>Oh no, no x4 exp mode with unlimited gold and zeal.
I do hate more options and love missed opportunities
>Core skills are improved
>tusk toss
The same argument ad nauseam. 1 step forward, 3 steps back. Acting as if more than 3 or so skills got reworked into the core skills.
>Only Sorcerer got hit hard by this
Casters got fucked because of this and because manual targeting was axed
>somehow made a worse story
>Both are the same shit
No they aren't. Extremely reductionist view.
I agree with the rest.

I liked both, but DD2 leaves you salty because the things you expected them to add that were missing from DD1 should have been an absolute given. Instead they tried to add more new shit and made the same mistakes as the first. We're essentially left with 2 incomplete games.

>>713426847
>No dude...the combat lol, it got better! Lmao. We have like uh finishers now! And ragdoll physics!

>>713427218
They live repeating their mistakes
Look at RE3 remake

>>713427032
>lmao
Yes?
Post Dragon adds numerous bosses and new enemy types + spawns to the overworld, a community raid boss, and a massive dungeon filled with several rooms, each of which changes their spawn every time you enter them.
Dark Arisen added BBI, which is an incredible dungeon crawling island that I've spent literal hundreds of hours in. The first run of BBI is full of new, unique enemies. The second run adds even MORE enemies, challenging encounters, and a new form for the final boss. And, like in Everfall (the dungeon I talked about earlier), the enemy spawns change every time you go through a room.

>>713426847
>rich post game
Only after DA. DD1 was short and with zero content.

>>713427284
love*

>>713427073
I'm so sorry anon. I recently started playing modded World again with one of my buddies.

>>713426847
>I wish people would stop pretending they were.
Their not pretending, their actually retarded enough to believe that.

>>713427113
Well yeah DD2 changed enemy tiering, in DD2 Ogres are the first enemy type wheras in DD1 they are more of a midgame enemy

>>713427113
>>713427113
DD2's enemies are pathetic and usually pose no threat at all, the game is tuned for babies to play it.

>>713419108 (OP)
It would be wild if they dont do an expansion, they claim to consider DD a keystone brand now and it did infact sell, its their best selling non keystone game, which is surprising, but if they released DD3 at this point it would die on its ass, they have to salvage the reputation of the previous game or noone will give a fuck about another game.

The radio silence is actually why I think theyve been cooking something. They could add stuff piecemeal over lots of small updates, but that shit isnt going to get on peoples radar for them to notice. If they package it all in an expansion then people are more likely to take notice and look at DD again. Like its very suspect they did not do ANY MTX after the game came out, and added casual mode when people were asking for hardmode, showing that they do know they can just add more difficulties, but instead of doing an update where they just add that in after everyone has moved on noone is going to care, but if they claim it as a feature of a big expansion well that sounds way more enticing and noticeable, and all the planned MTX can just be added as content to the expansion to make it sounds like its much bigger than it was going to be
>adds 25 new armours and 15 new weapons, new mechanics and a new region
vs
>adds 50 new armours and 30 new weapons, new mechanics, a new region, engine updates and several new difficulties
One definately sounds better as a package.

>>713427043
>The street fighter-esque times combos (where you have to time your button presses) like Dire Onslaught were removed.
It's Warrior's skill now. It's a rebalance thing instead of cut skill
>Unique core skills were also removed. The fighter heavy attack for example was a guard break that even worked on Orges, the strider kick did bonus knockback and blunt damage
You still use heavy attack to break guard as fighter and the kick becomes a drop kick + a parting shot so archer doesn't feel like shit to play.
Even back in dd1 there's only a few good skill to take for each weapon like scarlet kisses, instant reset or flurry. Everything else pales when compare to those skills.
And fucking Warrior got jackshit in the first game despite being the coolest vocation.

>>713427453
they claimed a lot of things that were lies

>>713427449
That animation is so dumb. He basically fucking glides without much prior inertia. The goblin's jump attacks feel out of place too.

>>713427508
Nigga theres lies in the trailer, wheres the fucking moon.

>>713427614
Only on a powerpoint presentation, please understand

>>713427536
You're right especially about the goblin jump which was just bad. The game was clearly rushed the fuck out, it's so poorly balanced.

>>713427672
Oh hey it's BBI gameplay

install randomizer they said, it would be fun they said

>>713419108 (OP)
Just more shit for the Dying Wilds, RE9 Demo stuff, MAYBE Okami 2 and some other shit, even thought they said DD2 sold well and is now on the pedestal of their best games, it sure doesn't seem like it.

>>713425896
>"fuck Konami!"
SPEAKING OF KONAMI...
I went to the casino yesterday and while I had fun winning, I spotted a very familiar logo at one of the games that wasn't a fucking pachinko machine!

>>713427453
There's no release window for DD2 expansion now. Nu-Onimusha, Pragmata, RE9 are on the horizon.

>>713427536
>The goblin's jump attacks feel out of place too
they are fixing it for the DLC

>>713428001
It's you!
I'm very proud of you.

>>713427734
I find the dragon fights so boring in DD2, im not sure what it is about them that makes them less appealing than DD1.

Also not sure which random mod you're using, but I'm sure one I looked at had toggle options to disable boss fights/dragon's etc in "normal" spawns. Is there any mod to let enemies roam/move further away from their spawn points? I think this is just as much of an issue as the static spawns, because even if the enemy that spawns is random, you still know exactly were an enemy will be on the road if they're not free to roam away from it.

>>713427113
Dd1 Orge just has crazy good hp/defense in early game because they want to teach you to runaway when you're weak. I still killed it first try tho. Moveset wise dd2 Orge is better.

>>713428151
>im not sure what it is about them that makes them less appealing than DD1
Probably the fact that their moveset is half the size with less contextual behavior.

>>713428151
DD1 dragons stay up in the air much more than DD2. In 2 you easily stagger them by hitting their chest.

>>713428253
Their moveset does seem small, but don't remember DD1's being that much bigger. It can certainly be annoying when DD2's dragon's do multiple, same flying AoE spam attacks in a row though.

They're not difficult in any form, I just don't find it enjoyable to beat them.

Ok completely random thought thinking about the healing system.
How would you guys feel about a health system as such:
>You have 2 Health bars, a regular one and one that basically consists of 3 hearts (whatever icons)
>The first healthbar represents minor hits you take and all enemy attacks can inflict damage
>If a hit would reduce it to 0, you lose a heart and regain some health.
>It can regenerate over time/standing still
>The hearts represent a wounding system, when you lose all 3 it's game over
>Each enemy has at least one attack that can instantly deplete a heart by wounding you. Usually well telegraphed
>No way to restore a heart other than resting/sleeping

>>713428923
Pay me and I'll answer.

>>713428096
thanks anon! I'm trying my best to make the game fun.
>>713428923
Sounds very much like Halo. I think the healing system is fine, only thing I don't like is being able to pause heal which I would have rather replaced with a Monster Hunter drink potion animation.

>>713429056
Never played Halo, interesting. And yeah pause healing should never be a thing.

>>713429132
Then make it like DDO
game won't Pause in the menu or put healing on a quick slot.
I don't think there needed any more changes to how healing works imho

>>713419414
its nature of capcom games not just dd2 they all have cut contents

>>713424243
>worked on gaymma
Yikes

>>713426771
Someone had the great idea oh "muh low ambient noises" inside Capcom

>>713419658
The re engine was probably one of the last great engines to be made but was obviously made for small corridors.

I don't understand why they keep trying to make open worlds with it.

It needs to be heavily updated by the technical team before devs can use it that way.

>>713422551
I tried to, but too much of a brainlet to troubleshoot on my own and I'm not asking d*scord for help

>>713426771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWv5PFMnnAE
It was good though. The way each theme escalated was kino.

>>713419108 (OP)
Whats the point of Denuvo other than to fuck with performance after the initial release quarter? they must have lost whatever money they got in sales just from the monthly costs.
its just as much of a scam as Capcoms single player cash shops.
>No, i wont buy a Gaol Key which everyone gets for free after 5 minutes of playtime or 2 minutes of grinding.

>>713430194
Meh. Not bad, but meh.
This is better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmlxgt8hx7E

>>713419178
but what if they decide to this time?

>>713427672
To be completely fair - Magick Archer was absolutely busted in DDDA too. There wasn't a single enemy I couldn't one-shot and ricochet was a guaranteed horde killer (and boss killer in small spaces)

>>713430521
No it really isn't

>>713429574
>they all have cut contents
okay but DD2 genuinely feel like half a game, the unfinished feeling is way stronger than with other Capcom games

>>713430463
apparently they put 2 year licenses on everything now, since its capcom and it's going on all their new games I assume they're able to get a good deal so its worth it even on titles that only sell a low few million like DD2.

>>713431008
Yes it really is.
Lots of others too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1mRDYPwtgo

>>713430753
It was nowhere near as broken. Literally 100x weaker.

>>713419108 (OP)
dragons slopma bros still looking to collect some more Ls I see

>>713431025
you are just too unfamiliar with other capcom games

>>713431232
Not even close to true. I've one-shot almost everything in DDDA.

>>713427734
>turn up mob sizes too
If the released an official mode that just did the randomizer but with some tweaks to what is allowed to spawn in enclosed areas I would have a much different opinion of this game. Having to deal with zombie hordes breaking into towns and small armies of goblins on the roads feels more like what the game was meant to be, having a party of 4 just wipes the floor with the small mobs when they only come in packs of 4 themselves.

>>713431592
100%. Dogma needs random enemy spawns (currated so they still make sense for the area) + the ability for the enemies/creatures to freely roam based on their AI. The static spawns simply don't fit this kind of game.

It wouldn't be difficult for the devs to add basic "goals" to the AI packages that trigger based in variables such as time passage or just at random, TES was doing this shit in 2006. So they could've added basic goals like hunt, find shelter, raid a cave or human settlement, migrate to another area etc. All basic in design, but the interaction and unpredictablity CAUSED by these basic AI goals would make the world feel 100X more alive.

You'd never know exactly what you're going to encounter when your party sets off on its next adventure.

>>713431025
I see you haven't played dmc4

>>713419108 (OP)
In all honesty, is this worth a playthrough assuming it's bought on sale?

>>713434085
No.

>>713434085
it's fun as an open-world, adventure beat'em'up. Just don't go in expecting a good story and characters. Also if possible play on PC, mods fix some of it's flaws.

>>713434178
y bro
>>713434198
Heard there's too much gobbo enemies, is that true?

>>713419108 (OP)
Itsuno is out anon...

>>713434295
>y bro
DD1 is better.

>>713434085
It was worth it full price just for the world. The story and characters are meh. Eventually you'll get overpowered and monsters wont make you panic anymore, but until then it's a blast. Just go in blind and enjoy the bullshit the game throws at you.

>>713434295
there's like four tribes of the fuckers in between all the settlements

>>713434295
>too much gobbo enemies
indeed, I think I killed more than a thousand goblins by the end of my playthrough. Game sure could use more enemy variety, but at least what's there is fun to fight against since every enemy has multiple attacks and behaviors.

>>713434506
Fair, but already played that.
>>713434529
>>713434561
>>713434605
Icey, i'd check it out on the sale then.

>>713419108 (OP)
I want a new Mega Man game

>>713434765
just you know, you could also play Dragon's Dogma Online. Game got restored and balanced for solo play.

>>713434812
I'll check that out too then, see if my friends are interested.

>>713434919
lucky you, all my friends are pawns...

>>713435042
Well, gotta see if any of them even wants to play first.

>>713431228
Nah

>>713430581
I've been watching these for years, they've never done so. The closest we got to a surprise was them showing DMC5 Vergil's other weapons in one of these spotlights.

>add a bunch of new races
>do almost fucking nothing with them
Why even bother? The first game was all humans anyhow.

>>713435548
Ye

>>713419178
>>713430581
They rarely show anything new sadly.
>here's the old trailer again
>now here's the developer explaining the game
If we are lucky they will show new footage.
At best I feel they will show Sagat, another new MH update, and repeat the same trailers for pragmata and RE. There are some leaks and rumors about new capcom games but I doubt they will show them here.

>>713435548
this is what they took from you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX-EoY0wBNI

>>713419108 (OP)
Game was like a 6/10.