Thread 713430312

Undertale, FNAF and Minecraft were made by 1 guy. Omori was made in RPGMaker. Doki Doki Literature Club was a free VN that eventually became an iconic franchise with the dev now having a net revenue of $6 million.

You have all the time in the world to learn and create. You're on your PC all day. Why aren't you making the next big hit?

>>713430312 (OP)
I don't want to. Fuck off.

>>713430312 (OP)
and all the best selling books were written by one person, what's your point animunigger? playing games doesn't mean i want to make one, just as fucking your mum doesnt mean i want bottom surgery

>>713430312 (OP)
>Why aren't you making the next big hit?

Are you asking me or yourself? If it was so easy, you would have done it.

>>713430484
GREAT post. :)

>>713430312 (OP)
Didn't read
Megumins flat chest

>>713430312 (OP)
undertale was made by 2 people

I'd rather masturbate

Didn't read; just saw Megumin and want to lick Meguflat

>>713430312 (OP)
don't feel like it

>>713430312 (OP)
If I think all that shit sucks and the general public like that shit then it means no one will care about what I make though

>>713430312 (OP)
>Undertale, FNAF and Minecraft were made by 1 guy.
wow, he must be REALLY rich

>>713430623
I did it three times. I’m worth millions.

>>713430312 (OP)
I'm on it, but shit takes time...
sometimes I wish I was a neet

>>713431639
>one poster saves thread
i kneel.

>>713430312 (OP)
>lust provoking image
>irrelevant time wasting question

>>713431891
This is peak female form btw

>>713431958
Correct

>>713430312 (OP)
There is no learning creativity.
There is no learning to create.
You are either born with the X factor that allows you to tap into the creative choices that will resonate with millions or you're not.

Waiting for AI to become good enough to do the coding and asset creation.

i have no talent and am pretty stupid

>>713430312 (OP)
The only game out of those with any semblence of tge complexity I'd like to implement is minecraft, and thats with 15 years of hindsight and a team being built to support the game post launch.

>>713430312 (OP)
>Undertale, FNAF and Minecraft were made by 1 guy
That guys name? 4chan

Im a wageslave though

>>713432192
r u me

>>713430312 (OP)
I actually have this idea for a platformer, but I'm 99% sure it's generic, even though I mainly based it on Starfy. Plus I'm shit at coding

>>713432260
me too, and I'm making a game

>>713430312 (OP)
Racist digital foot print.

>>713432320
maybe

>>713432096
Suck a fat one ya defeatist faggot jew
You make every thread worse. Go back to whackin it to dead brown babies, kike.

>>713430312 (OP)
Unless you are incredibly passionate about making vidya, then it's pointless to compare yourself to any of those people. Even lazy fat fuck Notch put in far more effort than the far majority of wannabes ever could, and that's not even factoring in the early vidya indie advantage. It's far easier to get into vidya dev these days, but it's monstrously more difficult to make any relevant money or fame. If you are living in a first world country, you are probably more likely to profit off working some shitty assembly line job than by spending decades of hard effort on a game that might not even pay out at all (and of course, you'll need to spend years grinding skills, which are much more difficult to obtain as you get older, while also paying for yourself, since you can't easily make money off vidya anymore, so the problem arises from both directions unless you are some kind of vidya messiah that is willing to go homeless and program his dream game entirely from public libraries).

>>713430312 (OP)
Can't code and I don't have many good ideas

>>713431857
Looks neat, Anon.

>>713430312 (OP)
i dont know... i dont feel like doing much lately, i barely even eat

>>713430312 (OP)
I can only write music, can't code or draw, or even write because I'm hopelessly ESL

Making money takes me away from my true passion: Masturbating.

>>713432364
>Im making a platformer
By definition you are already generic
You need a hook or you'll get lost in the shuffle.
Even a good platformer won't sell well because its such a supersaturated market that you basically need to already be a household name to be notable, like Edmund McMillen.

>>713430312 (OP)
I'm splitting the difference and making mods, which is really just gamedev with training wheels

>>713433325
thanks!

>>713430312 (OP)
there's actually a truth nuke hidden inside the shitty op

you can't have artistic integrity aka SOVL when there are a lot of people working on a game, what you get at the end is a product for mass consumption. i would argue that the SOVL scale with the number of people taking decisions on every single aspect of the game.

that why rpg maker games, indieslop, vns (and also older aaa game where teams were smaller and more cohesive) are actual art, unlike the algorithm-driven aaaslop that gets pumped out nowadays

as for the answer to op's question
>You have all the time in the world to learn and create. You're on your PC all day. Why aren't you making the next big hit?
because i can't. as in don't have the talent to do that. neither do 99% of people. and i would also argue that the world needs less slop and not more, so unless you have a very strong vision/passion and a strong desire to share something with the world, then you shouldn't even attempt making games (also let's be honest, if you were then you would've already be making one)

also i'm not talking about making an asset flip and hoping to get lucky because a streamer picks up your shitty game and you go viral. that's way too risky from a purely business standpoint and, as you can see from OP's post, most people don't know what survivorship bias is

>>713434884
>>713431857
like does the world really needs another "retro ps1 inspried" clunky souls clone? i would argue not.

anon, what's special about your game? why are you making it? what are you trying to tell us with it?

>>713435535
>clunky souls clone?
no worries, plays nothing like a souls game
>anon, what's special about your game?
it's simple adventuring fun. Think classic Zelda progression with Dragon's Dogma beat'em'up style combat and ledge climbing. Nothing special I guess but it's not like a lot of games like this are being made nowadays either.
>why are you making it?
I find that coding mechanics, making assets and designing levels is fun. Been having more fun working on my shit than actually playing games for a while now.
>what are you trying to tell us with it?
nothing? My goal is to make a game that's fun to play, nothing else.

>>713432172
good morning sir

>>713430312 (OP)
>1. I suck at coding and game making in general

>2. I don't have any idea that I am passionate about pursuing

>3. Most of my "computer" use is scrolling on my phone during free time. Sitting at a PC for hours is uncomfortable af. I would rather do actual physical work knowing I will get money garenteed.

>>713431857
I could be wrong but could probably use smoother camera. It should feel kinda floaty, where it "dampens the bumps", and it overall reacts with a delay, smooth. It's the best compromise between "giving control to a player" (sm64) and the fixed camera of RE 1-2

>>713436312
I think I know what you mean, I'll try adding a little bit of delay to the camera follow.

>>713435918
>My goal is to make a game that's fun to play,
fun for whom? yourself?

>>713436543
The only person worth making a game fun for is yourself, fuck everyone else.
If other people like it thats just a bonus.

>>713436543
yeah. If it wasn't fun for me I'd be making a different game.
If more people finds it fun, then cool. If not, no biggie.

>>713432640
>It's far easier to get into vidya dev these days, but it's monstrously more difficult to make any relevant money or fame.
It's hard, but it's not impossible. I'd say that Balatro is a recent success story. They had passion for the process of making games, and they got lucky with a formula/ideas (gameplay) that resonated with enough people. Allegedly they weren't looking at other games much, so basically most of it was from inside the dev itself (so basically not taking inspiration from others can sometimes be good, but it doesn't work every time)

>>713436821
i will now play your video game

>>713436752
>>713436821
that's called autofellatio

>>713436881
I think it's called being true to yourself and not being blinded by money. Leave that to AAA devs, indies should focus on making fun games.

>>713436752
based 7 copies sold developer

>>713437029
i assume you will release it for free then once it's done?

>>713436881
The best kinds of indie games are ones made by an auteur.
Having a profound story and interesting gameplay that you need to get into the dev's headspace to truly understand instead of some cookie cutter formulaic popcorn gameplay meant to appeal to as many paying customers as possible.
I want a window into some schizo's mind. Thats where I'm gonna find some truly memorable and moving experiences.

>>713437348
100% agree, but do
>>713435918
>>713434884
>>713431857
look like "a window into some schizo's mind where I'm gonna find some truly memorable and moving experiences"?

>Anon1: why aren't you making games
>Anon2: i am
>Anon1: ok but you are not doing it right
You cannot win with /v/

Undertale and Minecraft weren't made by one guy..................

>>713437348
play wooden ocean

>>713430660
>namefag
>pass user
pedo alert

>>713432430
uuoohhhh wide megumin ass and fupa

>>713437820
1 guy's vision

>>713438186
Applies more to Undertale than to Minecraft, I remember Toby Fox keeps an IRON fucking grip on what Deltarune is about.

>>713437491
They don't yet but there is also a morbid curiosity of watching a developer carve their way through learning how to design something. I've played enough streamlined games in my years that I occasionally want to play some jank-ass bullshit.
Budding minds tend to think that they know more than they do and will ignore most standards and conventions. And I take some kind of twisted pride in watching that unfold, it reminds me of when I started doing gamedev back in middle school.
Solodev isn't an easy process and requires a single person to wear many hats, you can often tell which ones they're best suited for but seeing how they make up for their shortcomings in other areas can be endearing.
Bad games can still fall out of this process, but thats true across the entire industry.

>>713430312 (OP)
>iconic franchise

>>713438260
minecraft was notch's vision up to the alpha. then the enshittification happened because he hired more people

>>713438357
I dunno if Notch really had a vision for the game if it got derailed so hard and so quickly. Notch is also on the lazier side, I think he saw he had the money to afford *staff* and decided he didn't actually need to go further with his original concept. Terraria is pretty much what Notch wanted to make but 2D.

>>713437732
some people just won't ever be satisfied man, but what can you do.

>>713438286
yeah, a game made by an amateur will 100% be full of sovl but that alone isn't enough for me to play it

>>713430312 (OP)
/v/ is mostly ideas men who hope AI will save them

>>713432096
t. Adachi

I cant draw and I feel like you need a good artist or have an artistic vision to get the attention of most people
nobody gives a fuck about good mechanics in indie games or the story

>>713430312 (OP)
I've been trying for 10 years now. I still don't have my Minecraft or Undertale or FNAF.

>>713430312 (OP)
My life is great already. I don't need to chase more money by doing something I don't want to.

>>713438771
keep trying! why would you stop now?

>>713430312 (OP)
Unironically the kind of game I would be most passionate about making is a 2D metroidvania, which is the most oversaturated kind of indie game.

>>713438771
it took miside devs like 4 games to finally get a breakthrough
better make some cute anime girls next!

>>713438821
I ran out of money and I need to get a job again. I'll continue trying in a couple of months after I get financially stable. Even so, I might die before I ever release something that will make a cultural impact. People should be aware of this before they start. Gamedev is hard.

>>713439002
Best of luck with your money issues anon, hope you land a good job.

>>713438684
Lmao
>>713432096
I wonder what causes this website specifically to normalize self-hatred like this. There is some truth to what you said, but a 'loser' putting an effort will always be infinitely better than a loser who gave up because 'well it wasn't meant to be'.

>>713437820
>um actually the soundtrack ...

>>713439310
Not even that............... Toby can't play guitar...............

>>713430312 (OP)
50 games are released on steam alone every day
EVERY DAY
how many of them succeed at all? its like playing a lottery except the ticket price is several years of your life *(how much money you'd make just wageing instead, could be 200k$ or so)
only reason to make games is if you love doing it - might as well make mods and get a gamedev job, thats what I did

>>713438687
Figure out an idea for a style and try to lean into it. Work within your means, but you can make up for it by programming something novel with the way the game is presented.
Developer art can work, but the rest of the game needs to mesh with that style.

>>713439141
Usually it's from losers who did put in the effort and realized all the effort in the world goes to waste at the hands of a failure.
t. loser

the creators of most of those already had some kind of notable presence or past history on the internet before they made their big hits. either that, or they got lucky with streamers/youtubers. creating games is definitely possible on your own, but getting them to blow up to minecraft or FNAF levels is a different ballpark.

>>713439141
It's retards who spent most of their lives blaming everything around them and when all else has failed, they finally blame themselves, but by that point, they have spiraled so much they can't pull up.

>Why aren't you making the next big hit?
Why aren't you doing that instead of making low effort bait threads on /v/ with the most generic animu waifu as a reaction image?
Is it because you have nothing going for your life? You will spend the rest of it trying to bring people down your level? Yeah, thought so, bitch.

>>713430312 (OP)
Basically I'm retarded. I have no idea how to even go about figuring out how to do things.

>>713439141
Learned helplessness - a psychological condition where an individual feels unable to change their situation after experiencing repeated negative events that they cannot control.
This leads to a lack of motivation and a belief that their actions will not make a difference, even when opportunities for change arise

>>713440472
>I have no idea how to even go about figuring out how to do things.
easier than ever. Just google or ask chatgpt.

I just moved all my creativity from a video game I'll never finish to my hobbies. It feels good having things you see in your head become physical reality.

>>713441095
that's very cool anon! however...

>>713439141
coping mechanism.
same people will be in the 30+ gamer thread shouting
"OMG IM 35 AND NEVER GAVE MY BEST EFFORT EVEN ONCE I'M SO SAD???"

I made a game last year and after 9 months of effort for a small arcade game I only made about $100. I realized I don't love it enough to grind out games nobody buys and not get compensated for it

Making games? Nah, but I mess around with mods a lot. Right now I'm working on a custom campaign for l4d2. I don't expect it to be popular or anything, it's for a game that's over 15 years old, and I'm probably not even going to be able to release it properly because of all the "borrowed" assets, especially in that insufferable community lol.
But it's fun to learn things

>>713441353
Truly pathetic. Millennial misery loves millennial company.

>>713430312 (OP)
and they're all shit games nobody should play

>>713430312 (OP)
I don't have any interesting idea. Though i had an absolute shitpost game, basicly starting as pro LGBT+ game, where MC is a male guy, but believes he is transwoman. But slowly his mind opens up and sees he was gaslit, only because he prefered to cook and keep things clean, not because he was femine but because he enjoyed order, but toxic gf told him that is femine role and why she will cheat on him and only stay together as female friends
but like the whole shit feels like a gigantic cringe fest so i dropped it.

>>713430312 (OP)
Because I don't enjoy making things alone ;_;

Built for BAC

Noth stole code and he's a hack
Toby stole sprites and temmy is a shitter, both are hacks
Omori is a RPG maker and the dyke is a hack
Katakawa shoujo is alrightg
FNAF is not even a game

These games are horrible and only got popular because zoomers are mouthbreathing retards

>>713432096
>getting on a sports team JUST happens
>implying no one works out and trains to make the team
Gay nigger post

>>713430312 (OP)
God i hate this reddit series

>>713430312 (OP)
I've never had an idea. Not even a good idea, just any idea.

>Why aren't you making the next big hit?
Even if I have the time, what I want to make are not big hit materials. It's either Delta Green-style tacticool co-op shootan or a bunch of fangames

What?

>>713436881
>Autofellatio is bad because...

I have a challenge for you, /v/.
Make up a new original gameplay mechanic.

>>713451943
"Get chased by one single monster" short horror game...in second person.
That is to say, you see through the eyes of the monster. You can only see yourself if the monster is also seeing you.

>>713451943
fingerless glove meter

>>713448505
>>713453527
妻。結婚。老後まで一緒にロマンチックな生活を送る。

>>713451943
anger management
kinda like the Crank movie, if you stand still and chill, you die, so you have to keep fucking stuff up non-stop until the end of the level

>>713451943
A combination of some of the Souls style "previous attempt phantom," summoned help, and other death mechanics. The player has 9 lives and each attempt happens "simultaneously" so that after you die in a level/before a checkpoint/ on a boss, that attempt data is replayed and interacts with the world as you play your next life.

Basically the point is so that the way a boss fight should play out is you get 1/9th of the way through the encounter with your first life and then starting with the second you need to chain combos with previous actions and then surpass the next 1/9th of the fight. Sort of like a segmented speed run but your sum of best splits are doing shadow clone beat downs to things.

>>713455675
Do I have the game for you
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2164030/Stop_Dead/

>>713430312 (OP)
All my ideas are too ambitious

>>713456687
guss the idea wasn't that original lol
game looks cool, might check it out once it's out of EA

>>713439809
I can't believe Megumin is real

I don't have artistic talent.
>AI
People go out of their way to avoid AI art. Porn is the exception.

>>713457530
would you allow megumin to ride you?

>>713430312 (OP)
maybe in the future. so far i have only made mods for games but even that teaches a lot

>>713431891
>see more than 4 pixels of megumin or even just her color palette or silhouette
>immediately drop 30 IQ points and become consumed with breeding lust

>>713457748
Aqua's fat fat ass