Thread 713431593

Which is better?

>>713431593 (OP)
I didn't think I was an old man until I played Astro's Room on ps5. That shit gave me an overstimulation headache. Especially with the dualsense constantly jiggling and adaptive triggers and shit. I had to stop. I'm only 27

>>713431593 (OP)
the goty winner of course

>>713431593 (OP)
Odyssey but Astro is still worthy of GOTY.

>>713431593 (OP)
I like the one that goes wahoo

>>713431947
Unicorn Overlord deserved the GotY.

>>713432001
Stellar Blade deserved that goty, and everybody knew it. But they couldn’t do that, oh no, here’s a non offensive substitute.

Is this a joke?

Odyssey is the worst 3d Mario game so Astrobot

>>713432107
It was nice to see so many normalfags wake up to the fact Geoff is a sellout and the awards are rigged.

>>713432227
Even the "worst" 3D Mario (which is Galaxy 1) is still a great game and better than Astrobot

>>713432349
Put some effort into your bait next time, nigger

>>713432386
Everything I said is factual. Objectively fact.

>>713432107
Nah. Stellar Blade is cool but its qualities are far too imbalanced to be deserving of something like that.
Its combat is cool but it's nothing extraordinary.
Its music is splendid but the way it's used in-game is not that great.
Its story has neat ideas that it does a poor job at tying it together.

>>713431847
SMO won GOTY at lots of places, Nintendo fans just aren't obsessed with GOTY and awards like Sony fanboys are

>>713431593 (OP)
They're both pretty good but very different. I personally enjoyed Odyssey more but I still enjoyed Astrobot quite a bit. I really hope they make A FUCKING SEQUEL TO ASTROBOT and don't just drip DLC forever. Make an Astrobot 2.

>>713432227
Odyssey is better than Sunshine, and honestly I think I'd rather play Sunshine over Astrobot if I had to replay the games. Astrobot has 0 friction. It is fun, but basically a game for babies.

>>713432386
He's right, Galaxy blows and wiibabs aren't ready for that

>>713431593 (OP)
Probably Mario Odyssey, but the big secret about 3D platformers is that none of them are really good. The 2D-3D transition in this case just turned a formula that worked well into a sandbox that, to this day, no one has figured out how to make fully functional.
The next piece of evidence in favor of what I'm saying will be Meat Boy 3D, where people will realize something like, "Cool, but it was better when it was 2D".

>>713431593 (OP)
snoys will say astroshillbot, tendies will say odygay
this thread is fuckign stupid

>>713432612
Good fable, anon.

>>713432349
>which is Galaxy 1
I wonder who could be behind this post...

Astro Bot isn't even better than a grand majority of Playstation (or associated with Playstation) 3D platformers.
I'd rather play Crash, Spyro, Jak, Sly, and Ape Escape over it (I don't consider Ratchet a 3D platformer series but if it was included in that description I'd include it too)

>>713431593 (OP)
Mario Obviously

>>713432349
simpleflips go back to sleep you're still tired

>>713431593 (OP)
Odyssey. Not by much though.

>>713431593 (OP)
>Which is better the shameless bootleg or the original

>>713431593 (OP)
bakeru is better than both.

>>713431593 (OP)
Galaxy > Astro Bot > Odyssey

>>713432227
I know you are, but what am I?

Astro Bot is more polished, but simpler. Its highly linear levels keep the gameplay extremely tight. Astro Bot is more technically interesting with all the physics simulations and controller feedback. Robot flavored everything gets a bit boring though, it doesn't feel like it has as much of a soul as Mario. I love the hub world and the feedback loop of rescuing bots and growing your base is really fun.

Mario Odyssey is more creative and has more of an element of exploration as well as a wider moveset that allows for more skill expression. Mario's levels feel like little worlds that reward exploration and experimentation and there is more of a sense of "plot" and character than in Astro Bot. Odyssey lacks a good hub world, but each level sort of has hub like elements.

Both games rely on gimmick ability modification to mix up the gameplay which I'm sick of seeing in every platformer. Become a caterpillar! Become a frog that bounces high! Become a sponge that soaks up water! It just feels like a cop-out and wasn't required to make great platformers in the past.

They're both fun and beautiful platformers. I'd rather play Astro Bot if I want to just mindlessly pick up and play for 20 minutes and I'd rather play Odyssey if I want to sit down for an hour and dig in to some relaxing platforming fun.

>>713436227
The Jak & Daxter style of open-world, action adventure platformer with stylized, cartoony art is the style of platfomer I miss the most. There's just nothing like it in the modern gaming space. Modern platformers seem to have really leaned into gameplay focused, level oriented design with a lot of gimmick abilities that change constantly to keep up with zoomer attention deficit issues.

Spyro is also interesting because to me it's basically a vehicle platfomer as Spyro controls like a car. Mario Kart World is kind of like a vehicle platformer collectathon and that seems cool, but I haven't played it yet.

>>713431593 (OP)
>No DLC of Odyssey
Why tho?

>>713434774
>Good fable, anon

The truth always is

>>713431593 (OP)
PS5
>has bing bing wahoo & run
>has Monster Hunter Wilds
>has not Splatoon
>soon gets Gamefreak Souls
Switch 2
>has not Wipeout
>soon gets not Bloodborne
>gets Tony Hawk Pro Skater
>works on a GaaS
>SQ and Mihoyo considers porting their games

as soon as Nintendo starts doing cinematic slop I will believe they did le ol' switcheroo

>>713434935
64 > Odyssey > Galaxy 2 > Sunshine > 3D World > Galaxy 1

>>713444716
>bootleg mario
>everyone hates half-rice
>no one even realized foamstars released
>gamefreak slop

>>713444716
>has not Splatoon
Huh?

>>713446631
Imagine splatoon but you spray foam that piles up and becomes such a visual mess that you need permanent enemy outlines to know where they are. Then add a cash shop, the usual AAA multiplayer designs and the "hey there fellow kids" theming.
I wouldn't dwell on it too much. It already hit the end of service.

>>713442652
Based

>>713431593 (OP)
>astro bot
won GOTY, is inspired by the best 3d mario game
>odyssey
glorified walking simulator with baby tier platforming challenges, is worse than even 3d world

>>713446963
I liked the volumetric foam idea, but making premium cash shop new IP GaaS has been proven to be one of the worst monetization ideas.
The zoomer diversity cast didn't help

>>713431593 (OP)
>which is better? Mario Galaxy or Mario Odyssey?

>>713431593 (OP)
Odyssey, but Astro Bot is very good too, it just doesn't have its own identity yet.
>>713431847
Odyssey would have won GOTY had it not been for Zelda.

>>713432107
Nigga its a mid game with tits.
If thats enough for you, more power to you but that doesnt make it goty

>>713447952
There's like 2 maps in the entire game built so that you can stack up foam to make a shortcut, and neither of them are actually useful shortcuts. The fact the foam can stack up really just feels like it was included solely so they could say they have SOMETHING different from splatoon that wasn't the lack of something splatoon had or the addition of something terrible like a cash shop, battle passes, and $45 EACH cosmetics.

>>713431593 (OP)
Odyssey, but Astro Bot is great too.

>>713431593 (OP)
Astrobot is fine. Nothing more, nothing less.
Odyssey is great, but not excellent.

>>713448989
so it isn't like Fornite where people complain try hards build the Eifel tower whenever they hear a bullet.

>>713431593 (OP)
odyssey had decent movement mechanics, so that one.

Astro bot was very shallow as a platformer and was mostly just a succession of setpieces. All flash, no game.

Depends. AstroBot feels more polished. Like it’s almost technically flawless. The levels are mostly linear. Dualsense integration is fantastic. Odyssey has more open-ended levels, which have an element of exploration that AstroBot doesn’t really have. There’s more movement tech in Mario which, in combination with the level design, gives it more of a sandboxy feel. I feel like there’s more to do in Mario. Regardless, they’re both A+ games. AstroBot was definitely worthy of GOTY imo. Pure fun from start to finish.

>>713431593 (OP)
>couldn't compete with 3d Mario
>lost to 3d Kirby
>will get obliterated by 3d Kong

>>713431593 (OP)
I loved both. But Odyssey to me feels more fun.
Plus nothing in Astro Bot hit me as hard as the New Donk City Festival or the Moon escape, though I have always been more of a nintendo fag growing up anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1IHvzwUd6w&t

>>713431593 (OP)
Mario.

>>713432227
why you didn't bought it though?

>>713431593 (OP)
>Soul vs soulless
A tale as old as time itself

How is this even a question?
AB has no difficulty, is short (10h game), has one of the simplest moveset you can find in a 3d platformer and the level design is at least 2 tiers below Mario Sunshine, to say nothing of Odyssey. It also has no personality, everything is just some reference to a dead Sony IP. Try Psychonauts, Rayman 2, Banjo-Kazooie, etc. if you really want personality in your platformers.

Odyssey is a masterpiece.

AB is a 8/10 game at best. People only called it GOTY last year because they hate Square Enix and didn't want to see Rebirth winning. Which is fine, i don't like modern SE too but people can't stop pretending AB is some modern masterpiece.

>>713453681
I started Psychonauts 2 a few weeks ago, and was really loving the story and worldbuilding. It felt so good to explore the headquarters and it almost felt like a JRPG with all the dialogue and characterization... but then I started playing Astro Bot at the same time and now I can't bother to continue with Psychonauts, it's just not a very well designed game in comparison. It's got great charm, story and animation, but the gameplay can't hold a candle to Mario or Astro Bot.

A platformer must be fun and challenging first.. and honestly at a certain point, 3 minutes of dialogue breaking up every 10 minutes of gameplay is just too annoying.

>>713449209
Built up foam can be cleared by opponents firing their own far faster than it can be placed. It doesn't offer a tactical advantage either since all players, including opponents, are marked on the screen at all times, and will have glowing colored outlines when behind something, including a wall of foam.

>>713431784
I'm 32 and didn't have that issue
You might just be autistic

>>713431593 (OP)
Mario Odyssey outsold it 10 to 1 and out reviewed it.

>>713453681
most people expected Metaphor winning, but its a multiplat so it didn't had that Nintendo/Sony backup bonus.
FF7 Would've only won as a giveaway for SQ and so FF7(R) could retroactively receive a prize (Remake was better received than Rebirth).
Otherwise there was no real competition
Black Myth would've been an obvious genuflection to china.
ER already won and SotE was a fucking DLC that wasn't even that good
Balatro was an obscure puzzle indie fotm (people would've mocked GOTY-awards for years if that won)

>>713454116
Psychonauts was always more of a point and click adventure game made as a platformer, then an actual proper platformer it self. Its focus is its story and characters above all because of that.

>>713455009
I can't agree, when most of the actual game is combining Telekinesis moves from rolling to hovering, all while the later 3rd of the game introduces more actual platforming challenges. The story is just well rounded and more explored than something like Mario Sunshine.
I would not play Psychonauts as a Point N Click.

>>713431593 (OP)
Mario, but not by much. Both are fantastic.

I hope Astro can find it's own identity. Relying on Sony fsnservice can only get a franchise so far (and frankly, it's pretty fucking irritating to see given the fact Sony doesn't make games anymore).

>>713456762
>Astro
>find it's own identity
At best Sony will get him into Fortnite.

>>713431593 (OP)
Astro had better legacy moments overall, because the viariety of all the series in the easter eggs. It also has better graphics etc because PS5. Other than that, Odyssey is way superior. Mario physics and movement is enough to put it leagues above Astro, because expressive platforming (buzzword, sure) is what people enjoy of 3d platforming, otherwise 2D is better

>>713433070
This was the most retarded thing I've read today, and I just woke up.

>>713432107
Its ok if you enjoy coomer shit, and the game was decent, but even if you are a diehard fan, you cant expect a GOTY for such a weak release, dont be delusional

>>713433070
See >>713457087

>>713432349
the worst 3d game is sunshine by far

>>713432327
the fuck is this bullshit?

>>713432386
mario if he real

>>713431593 (OP)
astro bot relies too much on
>'member god of war?
>'member ape escape?
>'member syphon filter?
>'member the ps1 multitap?
>'member the giant enemy crab?