Charlie Cox gave a GOTY-worthy voice performance in the span of a part-time shift.

>>713448645 (OP)
voice acting really doesnt take that long

No, that's calling having talent.
Amazing what you can accomplish by hiring real professionals instead of some faggot nepo from the california VA circle mafia

>>713448645 (OP)
At least he is honest about it.

>>713448971
>professional voice actors
kys

>>713448948
Reminds me of the voice actress for Bayonetta doing all her voice lines for both games in 4 hours spanning only 4 days and she got several thousands for that.

>>713449073
Yeah, seems like a standout guy, and I haven't even played the game either.

>>713448645 (OP)
Marvel said he is not allowed to do any stops on the 33 tour with the other VAs
He needs to distance himself from Daredevil ASAP because he seems like a nice guy.

>>713449169
Charlie Cox is an actor, retard.

>>713449169
Based illiterate retard

Voice actors lack actual talent otherwise they'd be actors.

>>713448645 (OP)
His performance noticeably sucked compared to Ben Star and Andy Serkis it’s funny to me people think he’ll be back for DLC

>character has ten lines
>everyone who wrote the script is there to give you direction
I could knock that shit out in an hour

>>713448645 (OP)
If you've ever been a part of making something and spending a lot of time behind the scenes, the final product just doesn't have any 'wow' factor for you when you see it. You might get more enjoyment from seeing other people react to it.

>>713449563
Let Sandfall know and if they ever require a greasy, overweight mexican rapist they'll be in touch.

>do 4 hours "work"
>get paid 1 million dollars

>>713448645 (OP)
He makes it sound effortless because he’s a professional. Which is why he was hired in the first place.

>>713449663
>take pictures of your asshole
>get paid millions of dollars from lonely virgins
note: only works if you're a cute girl

>>713449586
But he only spent 4 hours working on it. He probably spent more time on the way to the recording studio.

>>713448645 (OP)
Four hours?? So he basically just rushed through it and only did one take for all the dialogue..?

>>713448948
Doing all of Gustave's lines in 4 hours means he must've done it perfect on the first take every single time

>>713449380
Voice actors may have a face for radio. Being able to fill a role visually on a movie set is a lot different than just voice work. They are almost all actors of some kind, however, only faggots like yon yeah or whoever that shrimp is don’t start their career in theatre.

>>713449663
Why aren't you a VA anon?

>>713450062
Because I don't want to associate with the troons in video game development

>>713450062
Because I did 2 STEM degrees in a medical field instead. I'm not a arty farty type who would work in a creative field like acting.

>>713448645 (OP)
i did voice work for 10 years and it's piss easy, voice actors are a bunch of pussies. the best voice acting work i heard was from actual actors.

>>713448645 (OP)
it's more a testament of Charlie Cox being a damn good VA than anything else. Chances are he had great direction as well

>>713448645 (OP)
Why did it take so little time? From what I've heard, the other VA's took like a week to finish up their roles. His performance is good, so I'm sure he wasn't just phoning it in.

I haven't beaten Act 1 yet, so we'll see if that keeps up.

>>713449380
This is retarded, there are plenty of good actors that suck at VAing, and plenty of good VAs that would suck at acting, for example i don't see Tom Cruise doing Nolan North's job and vice versa.
if you genuinely can't tell the difference between the strenghts each has, you're either retarded or just a contrarian for meaningless internet points like the redditor you are

>>713450118
>muh honer
no anon, it's because you're a literal noskill, simple as.

>>713448645 (OP)
>>713450269
oh and don't forget in the vast majority of cases the animators build the scene and character animations around the voice acting work (there are some exceptions to this, like Renoir who already had all his scenes done, which makes Andy Serkis's performance even more incredible). So it's still impressive, just more of an all-around win for the whole team

>>713450229
Being a VA sounds less exhausting than being in the medical field, don't know why you can't do it as a side gig

>>713448645 (OP)
I wouldn't say hacks. You definitely notice the difference between amateur VAs and professionals (part of being a professional is having a pleasant voice). But yeah, their contribution to the finished product is wildly overstated and a relic of how shamelessly the gaming industry tries to emulate prestige cinema. It'd be like the Pulitzer prize recognizing audiobook narration (which requires way more recording sessions than the standard video game performance).

>>713448645 (OP)
Voice actor here, 4 hours is a pretty reasonable timeframe for all of Gustave's dialogue, recording for video games tends to go by really fast. I'm pretty sure he got paid the same amount any other VA would've gotten (or maybe double scale, which is more common for celebs), and video game sales don't give VAs residuals so he probably thought it was an easy little job for pocket money. This does let him start getting invites to gaming conventions though and autograph sales in those can make you a nice chunk of change.

>>713450431
I had strict parents who allowed no creative expression.

>>713450397
Would have loved if Andy got to mocap for the Renoir rather than having to fit himself to the character. Or maybe even if he mocapped for faux Renoir but had to fit the character for real Renoir.
Could have really highlighted the differences between the two.

Audio/voice director is usually more important than the VA's themselves. But they get completely overshadowed by the actors.

>>713450282
It means that he did the lines correctly and they didn't feel they needed to call him in for retakes or to give him more context. Other idiots do shit jobs, demand more context for lines because they can't figure out how they should sound when they read something like
>"What can we do to prevent that?"
So they take a week to run through what should have been five hours of work. Also a bunch of these faggots know that they get paid per session, so they fuck up the first time on purpose just to squeeze THAT much more out of the studio and they wonder how people could hate them so much.

>>713450020
Maybe it's just me but his max overcharge skill felt off compared to the impact it does. Even the purple charge sounds better.

>>713450497
But being a VA doesn't take any skill anon, don't tell you get bested by californians and literal trannies?

>>713450605
nah you're right

>>713450558
You missed the joke or haven't played the game, friend. Try harder next time.

SPOILER It has to do with what happens at the end of Act 1

>>713450020
That just shows voice actors are unqualified for their job.

>>713450445
I think it depends on the type of game being presented. Voice acting doesn't matter nearly as much in an action game (even the heavier story ones) as long as it isn't shit.
But rpgs that rely on telling a grand story NEED good voice acting to really elevate themselves. The difference between shit tier VAs that you usually get from translated JRPGs vs stuff like E:33 is massive.

>>713450302
>for example i don't see Tom Cruise doing Nolan North's job and vice versa.
Tom Cruise doesn't need vocal range, he's Tom Cruise.

>>713448645 (OP)
Nigga did one take lmao

>>713450918
It's almost like he has different strenghts that benefit him in his line of work? Woah

"Fuck the mission." Gustave whispered, calmly.

>>713450816
I think it's an interesting topic, because good voice acting/direction can really elevate a game, just look at Revengeance for example, you think people would still be talking about Armstrong if was voiced by Jeff the janitor?

Damn, talented AND humble? I see you white boy

>voice talent of the biggest game of the year exposing VA WORK as actual hacks
IT KEEPS GETTING BETTER

>>713448645 (OP)
>I'm not a gamer
holy based

how did they do this kind of interrupting dialogue without the actors being together in the booth?
https://youtu.be/uAXGxTwLo-Y?t=90

>>713448645 (OP)
Well, he is an actual ACTOR, not a "voice actor" so yeah, i imagine a good, concise, clear direction+professional actor = great performance.

>>713451538
you just layer them? you can hear the cut a bit there.

>>713449169
Professional actor doing VA work

>>713451641
BALDO
get a transplant like every balding hollywood actor man come on

>>713451340
it'd be fucking hilarious if he ended up winning best VA at TGA although personally I think Ben Starr should win, he was shafted by not winning for FFXVI a couple years ago

>>713451786
Stop being gay

>>713451202
Revengeance did actually pop into my head, because pretty much all of it's bosses became timeless through their voice acting.
However one key similarity is that E33 and Revenegeance are also both really good games at their core even if you were to enshittify the voices.

>>713449294
Let's not remove the caveat of the a capeshit actor.

>>713449256
She got angry she got paid "only" $25k for working 4h.

>>713448645 (OP)
kek, based

>>713448645 (OP)
How is that fraudulent? He did the job he was paid for. Like I know a guy who has done modeling for a jeans company, and I congratulated him on getting that job. He didn't then look at me and say
>I didn't even make the jeans. I'm such a fraud

>>713451538
wew english lune sucks

>>713451802
>although personally I think Ben Starr should win
He did such a great job with the trailer, I was severely disappointed he is playing some side character. But apparently the studio had everything planned.

>>713450020
>>713450805
This. A classically trained theatre actor is asked to do 1/3rd of the job of acting, and as long as it sounds vaguely on par with the tone it's good to go.
Voice actors are literal retards who think doing a stupid accent is somehow a talent

>"and the winner for best performance... Charlie Cox!"
>hfw

>>713451963
He feels the praise is unearned for a half day in a recording booth.

>>713452121
With Geoff' Hollywood jacking off i wouldnt be surprised. wathc it be some video be causeh e couldnt make it he's also shilling his energy drink for 10 minutes ors ome shit like the rock.

>>713452121
Seeing real actors at the game awards is so funny. They clearly don't take that shit as seriously as movie/tv awards so always show up drunk or not giving a fuck.

He is not a vidya voice actor thats the point, he is above that, he is not even an actual regular voice actor

>>713451786
He's a based embraced

>>713452440
Or dont show up at all, which is most of the time, Charly does seems like a chill giy so he might actually, genuenely show up

>>713448645 (OP)
Did he get paid?

>>713452048
>Verso
>Side character
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>713452121
He's not winning over English.

>>713450918
he doesn't have acting range either way, he always just plays tom cruise

>>713451849
>>713452561
he's not even taking fin, how is he going to play daredevil?

>>713448645 (OP)
I don't really understand the praise for Cox's performance, it was really just a dude talking. It was nowhere as emotional/impactful as Maelle's, Verso's, or even Gollum's.

>>713452818
people pay to watch him be Tom Cruise so it all works out I guess

>>713449586
>nobody writes the stories i want to read
>decide to write them myself
>can never ever read them the way i wanted to
it hurts so bad

>>713452895
>Entire show becomes him either on the streets in costume or a worn down Matt sleeping or walking around his darkened apartment
kino

>>713450282
hhehehehehe

good post anon. very subtle.

>>713449380
Many live action actors also do voice acting.

The only bad VAs are the meme e-celeb ones.

>>713450282
> I haven't beaten Act 1 yet, so we'll see if that keeps up.

I’m not going to spoil anything, but the end of Act 1 will tell you exactly why it only took 4 hours.

https://youtu.be/Fs3bXmPVy-U

>>713453162
If you train an LLM based on your own stories mixed with other stories maybe it can sorta provide you with your tastes but different enough to be still new to you

>>713451973
she kinda grew on me

>>713452440
most egregious example of not giving a fuck was the rock being there to shill his energy drink

>>713453876
She’s definitely the weakest link of the English cast though. Which is weird because her French voice is great.

>>713453957
Link. I must have missed that one.

>so what did you think of this meme character
>uh, my agent called about a quick check and I thought it was worth the asking price for some low effort investment

>>713453707
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt - maybe you just woke up or something. I do in fact understand why it took 4 hours and have beaten the game

>>713454642
my memories are fucked up it actually was at summer games fest 2022 it was some segment that featured him and had a plug for his energy drink

The American voice acting scene is a big clique, where they only employ their friends, yes.
Increasingly it's becoming dominated by people with youtube and social media presence also. None of these people are going to acting school, or performing in any real context outside of saying anime lines into a mic.

>>713453707
>The only bad VAs are the meme e-celeb ones.
100% this. Gianni Matragano suck ass for example

>>713455381
And they can’t even do that well. They fall well beneath the standards of their Japanese counterparts. It’s pretty embarrassing

>>713448645 (OP)
Starr (Verso) and English (Maelle) also said that E33 was by far the fastest dubbing session they ever had because they had the director here, were given the full back story for each scene and character and every scene had a fully sync'ed rythmo band which is extremely common in french dubbing but extremely rare outside.

If you want more details on the rythmo band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cer1cSOJD9M

>>713456560
>When a game company actually cares about what they're making
holy based these devs cannot stop winning

>>713456560
huh pretty interesting

>>713455381
Acting is something that you can learn on your own so there are talented people just floating around that get found through the internet and connections certainly help, but VAs either are blessed with an awesome natural voice or they work their asses off to get good at making other voices and acting with them. Too often they think that just because they landed a few gigs they're hot shit when the most famous VAs have been working in the industry for decades and it was never a very well paying industry.

This game fully sold me on the idea that this guy is the most talented actor in media as a whole. I've seen him playing live action characters, animated characters, CGI characters, game characters, audiobook narrators etc etc etc and he always fucking kills it

>>713457190
No that is the problem with western voice actors. The vast and overwhelming majority of them online it in with their regular voice and can’t act or have no range. Mignona, Hale, Blum, Lowenthal, north etc. the western va industry is kind of a joke

>>713457264
>Character named Kino Loy
>Actor always delivers a kino performance
dare I say... kino?

>>713456560
>Starr (Verso) and English (Maelle) also said that E33 was by far the fastest dubbing session they ever had because they had the director here

>high quality voice acting ontop of already good VAs and it was done quick (which means they can pay them less)
I swear these devs did everything right to cut down costs while keeping up with quality, they're either incredibly lucky or actually high IQ

>>713448645 (OP)
Random actors and the classically trained brits >>>>>>> faggots who got into voiceacting because they grew up on anime/video game dubs and launched their career voicing greentexts and memes on youtube/twitter

The moment the latter takes over the industry it is FUCKED

when it comes to anime and anime adjacant shit, the voice acting scene is fucked beyond belief
with games, there's still some sense to be found... for the most part

>>713448645 (OP)
>english VA
The French VA was much better,

>>713448645 (OP)
Can't wait for AI to replace them

>>713448645 (OP)
And voice actor cry that they aren't getting paid millions for working 4 hours a week

>>713452048
>side character
You're gonna be surprised when you'll finish act 1.

>>713457865
Shouldn't we already have Jeniffer Enligsh voice mods for games?

>>713452440
I felt bad for Al Pacino, he had to stand for like ten minutes straight while the Kratos guy talked his head off

"For those who come after" by Overcharge

>>713448645 (OP)
Professional voice actors > professional actors doing voice work > nu-voice actors who are just youtubers and ecelebs conning their way into massive paychecks for doing one voice like that gook proZD.

>>713458919
wasn't that fat gook complaining that he was only getting cast for asian roles which was the point of his entire bitchfit in the first place?

>>713449380
VA work doesn’t require the same type of on screen presence a movie actor has to have. Ben Starr is amazing VA but he might not have the star power to command a scene like Keanu Reeves despite Keanu being a pretty mid level actor.

>>713459065
Something like that yeah, I think he was also seething because he was being pidgeonholed into any and all asian roles despite specifically being a gook.

>>713449169
>voiced half your childhood

I hope the Japanese dub will be on par judging by the fact they said they’re considering more localization options.

Benn Starr is relentlessly handsome, how do I become like him?

>>713448645 (OP)
and it's not like he was half-assing it, he did a great job

>>713459365
your favorite FF has to be FF8

>>713459296
lel and people seemingly have no issue on a gook voicing kiryu

>>713448645 (OP)
Live action actors have an inflated sense of how long everything should take, because they have to wait around a bunch after every take so all the cameras, lighting, etc. can get reset. So they get in a booth and rattle off a bunch of lines, then look at their watch and go "woah, that only took 4 hours, I must not have done much" even though all of those 4 hours were working instead of waiting around.

>>713457593
>>713457783

It’s fine because anyone with sense watches anime adjacent things with subs and Jap audio.

You should always watch things with their original audio wherever possible regardless of the medium, because that was the artist’s original intent.

Played on french because eng voiceover was bad. I'd absolutely believe if they'd say they all just took 4 hours to phone it in.

>>713448645 (OP)
Kek, all those pampered libtard VAs just got exposed.

>>713448645 (OP)
props to him for owning it, he is an actor that performed a role well - he has no need to be involved in any capacity beyond acting out his role.
and wholly unrelated to the whole ocean of shit that tries to play vidya characters in adaptations.

>>713459736
YWNBF

He's that good
Makes sense why he isn't in any interviews for it though.

>>713452121
>>713452286
Alright but seriously, Andy Serkis will be the one presenting the award and it'll be to Jennifer English.

>>713459301
>those toons
>childhood
Fuck off gramps lol

>>713452286
my lord the hollywood wank this year is going to be insufferable

>>713459875
No, I'm german, usually we try to minimise our exposure to french and despite my genetic disposition to react to the language by drowning it in the sound of a tank engine I still prefered it to the english VAs.

>>713448645 (OP)
Charlie Cox is literally a well-trained theatre actor
Of course he's gonna knock that shit out fast, part of actual acting is vocalism, voice actors are just actors but specified to one single lane and their field is vastly less professional
Look at any vocal role a theatrical actor does compared to career VAs and you're going to see a hard, HARD mog.

>>713450302
Retard tier post

>>713448645 (OP)
99.9% of a good video game performance is good direction and good writing, the talkshitter walks in off the street and does enough for it to be a top tier performance without knowing shit about the game, the context, the character, anything

>>713460452
Depends on the game. The middling JP cast of xenoblade doesn’t measure up to the theatre actorsz but the S+++ star studded and packed JP cast for xiv blows the English theater actors out of the water.

>>713453707
Yes anon an actor can voice act because they're talented, dumbass

isn't it the role of the director or casting director to fill in the VAs with context behind their scripts or some shit

>>713449280
>Marvel said he is not allowed to do any stops on the 33 tour with the other VAs
Please give me a source on that. That's so hilariously petty it's a absurd

>>713460559
>I won't give an actual opinion because i'm a retard so i'll cry like a kid instead
Lovely

>>713448645 (OP)
>Are vidya voice "actors" actually just hacks?
Yes, and it's the Americans' fault they've become so famous and full of themselves because you can't stop yourself from worshipping them like servile cucks for some reason, it's embarassing. People like the entire cast of Critical Role are insufferable progressive cunts.

>>713461413
This, I wish AI killed them all.

>>713461413
>You don't get it dude i HAVE to see what they say on social media!
What are you? 12?

>>713461573
not him but its pretty obvious based on the work they partake in. I've never followed any of the CR crew and I know for a fact Matt Mercer is a radical communist. Just look at the guy and the people he hangs out with on stream and videogame studios.

>>713461573
>yes sluuurp I can't just listen to a voice in a game I absolutely have to lick the asshole of the person behind it as well and worship them, I just can't stop myself I'm Americaaaaan

>>713461714
I don't want to, why in the name of fuck would i want to? Are you faggots really this obsessed with social media that you can't just focus on someone's work instead of beating youself in your own mind?

>>713461739
Where did i say that?

>>713448948
Of course. You can come into work in your regular clothes. No make up, no waiting around for cameras to be set up, no waiting on the absolute perfect light because the cunt director insists on natural light, etc. Recite the fucking lines, and go home. Easy.

just shows how low the standards are in vidya
someone like kojimblo can get his narratives praised when his shit would be laughed out of hollywood

>>713448645 (OP)
>42 yo
>not a gamer

Weird shit. He knew ps1-n64-ps2 era. He stopped video games maybe

>>713450020
More like is that they only had Charlie Cox for an alotted time. So maybe the budget only stretched to one days worth of recording or whatever, and they just managed that time well.

>>713461828
I'm telling you I don't use social media. Do you know what CR is? It's a professional tabletop adventure sharing video project he has, VODs, not actual stream with a chat and where people can engage in. Just regular videos uploaded on his website. That's where I met the guy because I play tabletop games. One look at him and I knew all about his opinions on life.

Then seeing him at video game's credits as they scroll down confirmed what I initially thought.

Are you really this stupid that you think the only way to get information is through social media? All I've seen of him is professional work, and that's enough to tell me he's a literal faggot.

>>713448645 (OP)
how long before the articles that his "4 hour" comment had done irreparable harm to the voice acting profession and community and sets a dangerous precedent?

>>713462092
Or maybe he just did a good job?

>>713462095
>Do you know what CR is?
I don't know and i don't care, unironically touch grass

>experience your first real, theatre and radio trained English actor (NOT AMERICAN) giving a voice performance
>immediately shit, piss and cum your pants

>>713451802
Honestly I wouldn't want Starr to win this year for Verso if he had won for FFXVI, because he's just doing the same voice again. But since he got shafted for fucking Astarion, I'll gladly let him have the prize this year.

>>713462170
>4 hours
>33 devs
kek what else is there for them to get pissy about?

>>713462245
>because he's just doing the same voice again
imo the acting should matter more than the voice. They're not doing goofy wacky cartoon voices.

>>713457264
It's time to play Enslaved

>>713450495
>This does let him start getting invites to gaming conventions though and autograph sales in those can make you a nice chunk of change.
Disney is apparently being a bit pissy about that

>>713462372
While true, Verso does feel a lot like Clive in way too many scenes. Which is partly the story's fault, but still too close for my taste.

It's really common for actors to not see or play things they've worked on, in all forms of media. Sometimes they don't even know what it's for, and then it comes out 2 years later and they don't tell you.

>>713462191
You're retarded then. Its like talking to an F1 fan and telling him he should touch grass because he knows who Verstappen is and you don't. You sound fucking stupid dude.

Just as CR told me who Matt Mercer is, your responses tell me who you are. You're american. Americans LOVE to gloat in ignorance.

>>713462473
>It's really common for actors to not see or play things they've worked on, in all forms of media.
Going by interviews, the reason the game has difficulty options is because Jennifer English asked for them so she could play the game for her streaming channel, she admittedly sucks at games but wanted to play anyway.

>>713462473
can you blame them? I hate sending audio messages because if I do, I've to hear my own voice.

>>713462524
I don't want to watch some actor's YT shit, sorry i'm not a parasocial weirdo to care about this, hopefully you never get to have actual problems to worry about

>>713448645 (OP)
Tiffanie should win best VA tho
>who da fuq is Tiffanie?!
Its the first flower girl you meet in the game. The way her voice breaks as she says "Sophiee..." is award winning.

reminds me of the Igon VA not knowing what the fuck he was in or doing

>>713462473
Voice acting must be great in that sense. You could knock out 5 different projects in as many days if it works out right.

>>713462757
Absolutely, depending on your parts you could realistically do that.

>>713462673
It's not some YT shit...its on the CR's website, a love letter to tabletop gaming.

It has nothing to do with parasocialism, again, its not some stream with chats, just a regular video of Matt showing his take on tabletop gaming.

>>713462757
>Voice acting must be great in that sense. You could knock out 5 different projects in as many days if it works out right.
And now you know how even shovelware tier animated flicks can afford whole pages of A-listers for publicity, they only work for a day or two.

>>713462902
>just a regular video of Matt showing his take on tabletop gaming.
Not even that other guy, but sounds like very typical YouTube shit.

>>713462902
>Actually you have to check out his website
I seriously don't care anon

Aren't most Souls game done by theater actors?

>>713448645 (OP)
The fame these voice actors got for this game is actually a gamechanger I think, finally Western VA's will get the fame Japanese got. I see people at college saying For Those Who Come After a few times. Its a nerdy place. Also An Advantage people are saying that too. I know Comic Con people are cosplaying on these characters for sure.

I guess the point of my post sorry is that Charlie Cox should treat this as his signature role and treat it with more respect because it could be a gold mine.

>>713463089
All British actors are theatre actors first.

>>713448645 (OP)
Yes but blame the american union for fucking everything and most companies having completely no direction in voice acting

>>713448645 (OP)

This reminds me of when Troy Baker was talking about working with Kevin Spacey on Call of Duty Advanced Warfare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUezuqHrIOk&t=118s

>>713462980
And yet, its not.

>>713463017
You should instead of being so negative. Fun things are fun.

>>713463389
You are literally bitching about an actor's website site and youtube videos

Gianni and Prozd are horrible voice actors
No range, no style, they just do a slightly deep voice yet seethe about not getting paid millions

>>713463490
And? Just because he reuploads them to Jewtube doesn't mean its a youtube series, its not.

This just prevented me from buying E33. Now as I play all Ill think about is how the main character's voice actor actually has no idea whats going on, the weight behind the acting isnt actually there. Its just some monkey making noises and doesnt even know what the story is

PAY VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY'RE WORTH

I actually want AI to take over VA already

>>713452895
toupee most likely.

>>713463726
he only talks during the prologue anyway he's a nothing burger

>>713448645 (OP)
Doing VA work is a very short time is a sign that you did it right.
You'd have done it wrong if you had to repeat yourself many times and the result was settling for something rather than nailing it.

>>713448645 (OP)
Cox is known to not really care about a lot of modern techy stuff, doesn't do social media or anything. Just get booked and does his job.
Its gotta be pretty funny though that one random afternoon of easy work translates into a practically overnight reach with an entirely new audience who will now adore/support you for life. The character he voices is practically the soul of the whole thing even if brief.

>>713448645 (OP)
No wonder he did such a good job kek

>>713461943
Why don't you do it then?

>>713461413
>american voice actors
>famous
Imagine actually believing this LMAO

>>713448645 (OP)
>4hours
no way, he has a lot of lines in the game

>>713463726
>the main character's voice actor actually has no idea whats going on, the weight behind the acting isnt actually there
When you hear the FUCK THE MISSION monologue you'll change your mind.

>>713449639
Kek

>>713448645 (OP)
He based

>>713449639
Bodied that freak

retards really play a french game and don't listen to it in french? do you faggots do the same with movies?

>>713464627
It's a nepo heavy field. You know that. Why be so disingenuous that you pretend you don't?

>>713449639
hey I resent that, I'm not overweight

>>713464939
E33 was made around its English voice cast, French was an afterthought and given to an anime dubbing studio

>>713465002
fucking moron

>>713458539
That was ridiculous, Al Pacino was in his 70s at the time and you know what it's like having to stand in a single spot for any length of time is uncomfortable but Christopher Judge forcing an old man to have to do it all because he wanted to inflate his own ego, I never felt so much dislike towards a single guy.

>>713448645 (OP)
hey faggot actor, gaming industry is bigger than your faggot ass acting shit

>>713465024
What part of my post is incorrect?

>>713450307
No it's because of my honor.

>>713464965
>Huhu, yeah, I could do that!
>Except it's totally hard to get into this (supposedly) easy access business! NO DON'T LOOK AT LITERAL WHO VOICE ACTORS IN ANIME AND LOWER BUDGET GAMES, THEY DON'T COUNT!
Your next genius response, my lord?

>>713461943
Most vidya VA just record their voice
lines from home lmao

>>713457456
>actually high IQ
easy when you don't have undesirables/bluehairs dragging you down

>>713465084
Which is why they hired an actor with no voice acting experience right? Retard.

>>713464798
yea also the entire clusterfuck of him getting basically shell shocked leading up to that scene

>>713464745
He did most of it in a single take.

>>713464939
>>713465024
Actual French people living in France can tell the French dub was done second with the game being based on the English dub.

>>713464939
If by retards you mean americans then yes. They're known for doing that. They watch dubbed anime for fucks sake. They're mentally ill.

since we're talking about voice actors, redpill me on DC Douglas. is he cool or is he a fag? i know he's a VA so it's 99% likely he's a fag but i'm just curious

>>713465180
hot midget on the right

>>713465180
That cougar in the red jacket looks menacing

>>713457264

I was shocked to see his name in the credits (I don't have the ear for VAs). In a cast full of great performances, his might've been the best

>>713465172
wasn't that the case with that godawful Ada VA performance in the RE 4 Remake

>>713465276
>>713465085
no one wants to hear your shitty dubs

random actor you found on craigslist > 'professional' american voice actor (never voiced for TV)

>>713452440
well, they do that at the "actual" awards too. awards in general mean jack shit.

>>713465508
The original language of the game is English retard, the lip syncing is done for English. French was the dub.

>>713457456
I think it's much more simple than that, Sandfall devs are competent and the guys they had come in doing the VA are professionals like Star, English, Andy Serkis they're not there to try and reinterpret the character and put their stamp on it like activist VAs do, or to re-write lines or to tell the director how it should really sound.
They're there to do a job and they did it.

I do like Charlie Cox saying that the person who should get the most recognition for Gustave is not himself but the Mo-cap actor as the expressions, the animations, the interactions were all down to mo-cap and should get the credit.

>>713465354
>>713465405
I think she's the HR/Office Manager or something. Clearly not involved in dev or art.

>>713465285
Jap actors will never be better than American actors. Never. Never ever. You’ll never have a Jap actor best an American at the Oscars. Ever. Neil Patrick Harris mogs your top actor. Weeb.

>>713465662
should be the designated cumdumpster to motivate the team desu

>>713465708
dont care about le ebin oscars fuck aht shittery you dumb will smith fanboy

>>713465576
The mo-cap actor did the mocap for basically all the male characters, and both French/English voices of Esquie. Would be funny if he gets an award.

>>713465180
wonder if the rat will come out for that studio, was already pissy about the small team remarks

>>713448971
>that's calling having talent
GOOD MORNING SAAR I AM CALLING YOU HAVING A TALENT WITH WORDS!

>>713465810
He's already moving the strings with the government. Sandfall won't last.

>>713465793
Cope. Seethe. Dilate.

>>713452440
imagine being an actual actor, the amount of preparation it takes for even the smallest role, the body language, the make-up, the costumes, all that shit you have to keep in mind while delivering your lines and standing where you need to be, be mindful of the camera and the other actors
then you get a video game role, you hear all these things, how disney movies use the actors and mold the characters around the actors and you have to work with the actual animators and such and you're like, man that must be a real challenge, video games must be like that
you get the script, go into the booth, it's just a box with a microphone and they tell you to just read the script and maybe emote a little bit for 4 hours

>>713465924
Haha, so true my hecking actor comrade! The Room is the greatest movie of all time btw.

>>713449256
And do you remember how people defended her and started shitting on both Platinum Games and Nintendo?

>>713448645 (OP)
good for him for doing his job well and presumably being well paid for half a day's work.
the problem is the audience who thinks VAs are their friends, or are deep artists, and must have motivations beyond making money from a job.

>>713448645 (OP)
I've done a lil bit of voice acting in cartoons, i's actually for/full of lazy faggots who talk to themselves in funny voices, if you want actual talent hire stage actors and give them an easy paycheque.

>>713448645 (OP)
I’ve yet to see a source on this.

>>713465880
get fucked
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FSQD4FN6Ie4

>>713466117
Haven't heard about the OP but I've heard of a previous episode where a few fans found Cox in off hours at the set of Daredevil. He was apparently very confused about the situation but was a good sport and signed some stuff for them.

>>713466202
Epic strawman bro. Nobody cares about Will Smith (who is still a better actor than any Japanese actor).

>>713466117
https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1937090360645390366

>>713466258
You would suck his dick if given the chance don't lie

>>713466252
This.
>>713466117
Well known fact that he doesn't even know what Gustave looks like. He came over, threw some lines and was off to the airport. It was a sidegig for him or even less.

>>713465810
You know there already was a "scandal" on the French Twitter, calling the devs racists because a brownie didn't get hired and had a meltdown. It got so big that Sandfall had to make a post about it. It's already over for them...

>>713466107
I don't know how long it will last because you know things are fucked, but generally as a rule if you want to work in stage here in England you have to be familiar with Shakespeare and at by familiar I mean you know the plays, have studied and read them.
That's the baseline foundation for stage actors here, they'll do character studies of a play of their choice. I would say it's more in our culture here to respect the acting profession and that translates into voice work pretty effectively because on Stage you have to learn how to throw your voice to make it larger than you so the audience can hear you, you can't rely on tech and sound mixing like on t.v. where they can fix audio with adr.

>>713466334
I dont think scientology allows that

>>713459301
Wrong Shredder VA

>>713450020
A bunch of the VAs were talking about how fast the recording for this game went because the dialogue was flowing so naturally.

>>713462092
You're retarded. If they can hire him for 4 hours they can hire him for 20.

>>713466469
I'll add on to this so they learn breathing techniques, and how train how to get it right in the first take as on stage you only get one take.
Which is why Charlie Cox was able to clear all his lines for Gustave in 4 hours, he no doubt did it all in one take.

>>713466416
He should give his agent a raise.

>>713466469
As a frog it pains me to say this, but British actors are fucking great, honestly probably the best today. Way better than the Americans. The "new" French are mostly terrible.

>>713466334
>least gay weeb

>>713465573
which is really weird to think about though, you would think that the french would have been the first language considering how much of the in game universe and language is literally just french culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_%C3%89poque

wonder if someone at the top got cold feet or what the fuck happened when the core cultural identity of the game revolves around french but then they decide to make english the official voice language.

>>713453762
Please stop talking about technology.

>>713466042
for a like a couple of days before the truth came out and everyone turned on her and she completely ruined any future prospects

>>713466676
>whining about Americans out of nowhere

Death to all Voice Actors unironically. The most overrated shitty useless garbage job in this industry.

>>713466730
The writer is actually the asian-american woman, so that's probably why. It's already nice that they they have a French dub (after some popular pressure), some other French studios didn't. Spiders for example.

>>713466738
I just wanted to help...

>>713466730
Casting a wider net for international appeal, the UK being a stone's throw away, probably some cultural fund assistance for making a game that exports French culture abroad.

>>713466841
people really should know the context behind this image before posting it

>>713457264
Confuses me a bit that Renoir's amazing voice came out of this crunched up face. He did a great job.

>>713459301
Have worked with this guy. He's an asshole.

>>713466632
Cummings and like two or three other guys had to step in as Shredder when Avery was busy with Fresh Prince.

>>713448645 (OP)
Charlie Cox would get so much free dicksucking from gamers if his manager had spent 5 minutes coaching him on how to pretend to care about the game. Pandering to gamers is extremely easy and just as lucrative.

>>713467006
turns out, contrary to what japan tries to convince people, looks have nothing to do with a persons voice

>>713451802
Ben Starr should win for Balatro.

>>713448645 (OP)
>uh yeah lol i just went in for a few hours it was pretty easy haha

dude theres a union strike you cant say that

>>713466925
Don't think it's the fault of the writer. Remember that she got involved because the director was looking for English VA volunteers for his demo, so English was already the main language
>Asian-American
She's Australian I think

>>713467119
Don't respond to me when all you want to do is some retarded seething about your japan boogeyman.

>>713466676
>The "new" French are mostly terrible.
Same here with the "new" English which is why I don't know how long the reputation will last here, there has been far too much DEI pushing and it exploded after 2020, the Royal Shakespeare Company the most prestigious theatre company we have here on the back of Saint Fentayl Floyd, they mandated 25% of each stage production must be BAME which is Black, Asian ethnic minority represented which is already having a bad impact on the competency of the plays, so I don't see this improving unless these retarded mandates are removed.

>>713448645 (OP)
I've heard an actor saying that he likes doing voice over for vidya because it's super easy job

>>713448645 (OP)
Not having an obsessive attachment to your role is a good thing actually.

>>713467119
The fuck kinda stupid strawman is this? Old women have been voicing shounen mcs for decades because their voice fits better and no one's had any issue with it.

>>713467092
Disney still has the cuck cage on him, wait until he's done filming Daredevil to join the press and con tours.
It's also the first game he's ever voiced for, unlike Serkis who's done a few already.

>>713457264
>>713467006
I know people aren't forgetting but I would like to remind them same guy mo-capped and voiced Gollum-Smeagol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcsd3DW9pPs

>>713466416
>Well known fact that he doesn't even know what Gustave looks like

In the E33 behind the scenes, the animation was already done and the VAs recorded while watching the scenes. Are you saying Charlie did it differently?

>>713467331
She's a Chinese American from Texas who lives in Australia.

>>713467406
>>713467350
>underage faggots dont know about the entire industry in japan that revolves around worshipping certain voice actresses or "Seiyu" and specifically focusing on what they look like
>its literally just an offshoot of their idol worship
the fact that goku is voiced by an old woman doesnt make that the rule, its quite literally a well known exception to the rule.

>>713449294
actors do NOT deserve respect or praise.
they are druggie degenerate scum and need to go back to living in gutters.

>>713467636
Dios mio

>>713462442
Huh, how so?

>>713467734
>actors are degenerates
>says the NEET 4chan poster

Maybe that nigga Shakespeare actually was that good and studying him works.

>>713449256
and no other roles or jobs. good luck landing another gig. being able to support yourself on voice acting alone is extremely difficult and rare.

>>713448645 (OP)
>dude's job is acting
>OP is impressed he got paid for acting

>>713448645 (OP)
I've always heard that actors typically have a hard time doing proper VA work, but maybe that only applies to American actors because British actors almost always seem to bring stellar acts to the voice acting sphere.

>>713468269
>everyone is good at their job
>no one should be praised for being good at their job
>there arent thousands of supposed "professional" voice actors that are garbage
the best i can give you is a 1/10 for effort sorry anon

>>713468269
Pretty high bar when dedicated voice actors are completely fucking incompetent.

>>713468335
Are radio dramas still a thing in the UK? I remember listening to some Doctor Who ones as a kid.

>>713448645 (OP)
In the early 2000s studios would just get the janitor and office ladies to do voices and it worked

>>713468269
In my job, 4 hours is the time I take to write 2 emails and have 3 coffee breaks.

>>713465276
I was immensely disappointed by I still used the French dub. It was a grotesque mistake to dilute the identity of the game imo and cater to English for a game who thrived on his unique setting but I understand the marketing reasons behind it and the fact that English speakers have some kind of cultish adoration for voice actors.

>>713468469
Majiko changed this

>>713468453
I'm pretty sure they are.

>>713468453
Yes, radio dramas are still a big thing we also have a large audiobook industry.
Warhammer40k could probably keep the audiobook industry here afloat alone with the amount of books they need read.

>>713468469
I'd it makes you feel better, the motion capture slave tech voiced Esquie in both languages because he kept putting on mock voices until they let him do it

>>713448645 (OP)
>Check out this indie game by this indie studio!
>*they hired fucking Charlie Cox*
How is this an indie game by an indie studio?

>>713467623
He's blind bro didn't you watch daredevil

>>713448645 (OP)
I guess it helps that Gustave dies in act 1, but he's probably right. I thought it was common for good actors to do things in as few takes as possible. If a VA needs months in the studio for roughly 2 hours of dialogue then there's some shit goin on.

>>713452121
>mfw best performance category is all Hollywood actors from E33 and DS2
>mfw I have no face

>>713449639

>>713468194
>>713468335
Full time American VAs are only hired because they're the bottom of the barrel, which is why so many are getting recruited from fucking Newgrounds and YouTube videos. They're not formally trained and are part of what's basically a production line where they go in, rattle off lines with minimal direction as quickly as possible, and move on to the next role. If a production is going to use trained actors, they've already committed to a higher budget and production value for their product, which means they're going to give more budget to proper voice direction.

>>713468595
Him and Andy Serkis they didn't cast themselves, they were brought by Kepler for publicity because their CEO knows some film industry people. Both voice characters that could be recorded in a day or two

>>713449790
People shit on woman for doing this, sometimes literally, but over 90% of people would do this if it meant never working a real job again.

>>713466998
What is it, never seen Mad Men

>>713468595
Stop noticing things, NOW….

>>713468595
nobody said it was an indie game, Ranjeet.
it's an AA game made by an indie studio.
the game is not indie because it has a publisher.
the studio is indie because it isn't owned by anyone but themselves.
fucking third world faggot.

>>713449790
It works for cute boys too.

>>713468847
I shit on both the women doing it and the pathetic men giving them money to do it.

>>713468915
Sadly they all become cute girls eventually

>>713465810
schreider is antiwhite.
This is known yes.

>>713465869
>>713466451
someone should tweet the devs to not faulter or cave to antiwhiteism.
That they should fully embrace White/French Wellbeing and viscously mock and demonize anyone tried to slander them with antiwhite ideology.

>>713468808
Yeah being a dedicated voice actor feels like putting all your eggs into a very fragile basket. I feel like you should have a greater calling in life first and then do voice work if you've got free time or need some extra cash. Fuck man, I'd argue that doing YouTube/Twitch full time is more valuable and sustainable than voice acting on its own.

>>713449663
Damn. I can't even blame Mr. Sheklestein for trying to get AI going as quickly as possible. AI can septuple that output in the same amount of time and for a fraction of the cost!

From what I’m gathering in this thread about American voice actors, you’d have a better more emotionally gripping performance by going after theatre overgrown theatre kids than rely on someone who’s a voice “actor”

>>713467918
why the fuck are defending pedomanics you worthless self hating cuck?

>>713469075
Live performance > 3000 takes while the script is in front of you and you have a break between each one. You might be onto something.

>>713467360
>, there has been far too much antiwhite pushing and it exploded after 2020
fix'd
As for the rest.
White erasure is a Hell of a drug.
Destroys a people and thus the nation they crafted like nothing else.

>>713467006
He's Armenian.

>>713468595
Its indie in the same sense that Dave the Diver(publushed by Nexon is).
Some studio nobody's heard off, with a producer that has a billionaire daddy made a game, this naturally makes it some indie story that anyone can do.

>>713464627
The job is easy, but getting a worth while acting job is hard. If you're playing locally, at some small town theater type thing, you're also going to have a full time job. If you're a bit actor, even on TV, you might go months with jobs sometimes, and so on. So yes, acting in itself is easy. It's playing pretend. Making a living off acting is hard, because there's millions of others trying to do the exact same thing.

>>713448645 (OP)
>His performance is better than 99% of all voice acting
>the remaining 99% of VAs swear up and down how hard it is to voice vidya

>>713469516
>with a producer that has a billionaire daddy made a game
Oh it's billionaire now? Good to know. Should've spent a band or two on better keyboards than the cheap Microsoft ones.

>>713448645 (OP)
I mute voice acting in video games.
Video games aren't TV shows. I'm sick of the lines being blurred between entertainment mediums.

>>713469752
Such a weird autist take, video games have had stories and voice acting for over 30 fucking years.
That's why genres exist you can play a story/ narrative driven game that is heavily orientated around characters and a story or you can play a racing game or platformer that is all about gameplay.

>>713469752
Mute the music too, that's a different medium.

>>713469960
Skip all text too and don't read anything, it won't encroach on the domain of books.

>>713448645 (OP)
Charlie is just really fucking good. The Daredevil revival is a frankenstein mess of a project since they still used all the footage from before they shut down production and hired better people to film new stuff and salvage it. But Cox is still bringing his A game, no matter what. If it were anyone but him as the series lead, it wouldn't have been watchable.
https://youtu.be/oVwLk1LZzXI?si=2k3ETJ-mgTD_eR74

>>713469752
Agreed I'm fucking tired of Hollywood slop movie games I blame kojima

>>713469960
>>713470081
Kek

>>713469319
>Live performance > 3000 takes
This is why actors who’ve done theatre are way better than actors who haven’t.

>>713468194
lmao did she manage to get blacklisted because of her spergout?

>>713468269
That's how low the bar is for vidya these days.

>>713448645 (OP)
Not 4 hours

>>713469657
The thing is they're actually right for the wrong reasons. If you watch any behind the scenes for 99% of video games, it's always being shoved in a booth alone for a few hours to rattle off lines with little context, and the voice directors there are outsourced which means they don't have context for what the creators wants and are just offering the bare minimum of what they can in order to get the job done on time.

A big part of the reason why E33's voice acting was so good is because the studio did the voice directing themselves which means not only did they not have to budget it outsourced voice directors, but were able to do as much work ahead of time to give the actors as much direction as possible to work on. So they got to see the fully animated and lip synced scenes with rythma timings as they were acting, plus talking to studio staff to understand firsthand what they were looking for when they were making each scene. Give other video games the same treatment and the quality of voice acting would improve, but they don't because the studios are cheap.

>>713469037
youtube and streaming is legit a side, or bigger, hustle for a bunch of them, they're already going all in with vtumors

>>713465145
FUCK you, you smug asshole. You know I beat you and trounced your argument in every conceivable way and you're throwing a little bitchfit like a goddamn child trying to come up with this disingenuous nonsense that doesn't even mean anything. You KNOW you fucking got owned by me and lost and it's just sad you're resorting to this instead of shutting up and moving on.

>>713448645 (OP)
>George RR Martin spends like a few days theorycrafting a setting for From
>a few years later his name is on the box of one of the biggest games of all time

>>713460625
I did a Ctrl+F for Xenoblade, and this is the only post. What's funny is the EN VA for Dunban is the exact same as what Charlie Cox said. He did the lines, then forgot all about it, and his voice was one of the best, which is insane cause the JP was literally Vegeta haha.

>>713471346
how do they lip sync something that's not been dubbed yet?

>>713466660
>You're retarded. If they can hire him for 4 hours they can hire him for 20.
that's not how budgets work

>>713471979
The french mocap actors said their lines in english.

>>713471979
they did the mocap first with the mocap actors (i.e. literally just a few devs) reading the lines themselves. It's why the lip sync is kind of off sometimes.

>>713471346
But how is it cheaper to hire a voice director than do the fucking job yourself? I can understand it for the different dubs and translations, but at least the creative director should be there for the original dub, no?

>>713448645 (OP)
This is common, dunno if anyone here is having a genuine bitchfit about it. No shit most VA's and actors don't actually play the games they worked on, it's common and has been common for decades. On rare occasions the VA or actor is someone that enjoys playing games and in rarer cases they end up working on a game they're fans of.

>>713449280
>needs to distance himself from Daredevil ASAP because he seems like a nice guy.
Absolutely not, Daredevil is the only reason I know he exists

>>713472203
>But how is it cheaper to hire a voice director than do the fucking job yourself?
It's a trade off. The outsourced companies have their own equipment since they're the ones handling voice recording full time so if you don't already have that equipment then you need to pay for it yourself. However, that also means you need to pay them extra on top of the budget for the VAs themselves so they can pay their own staff and their own bills. Overall it ends up being less expensive to outsource it in the long run, but as a result you have less creative control, and if you do already have the equipment setup yourself then you can bring in the VAs directly.

>>713467718
That has less to do with the looks/voice relationship or them trying to push an angle on it and more of a "having a hot girl voice a popular character will make people watch it more" thing and also they need to have sex with old men producers to get roles so it's also a glorified prostitution ring. It's not them trying to convince anyone about it, it's just standard perverse shit they indulge in when it comes to the world of their media in general whether it's VA or acting or music.

>>713448645 (OP)
>record some lines 5 years ago for few hours
>had 2 other jobs that day
>dont remember it
>get praised

lmao

don't care played the game in french dubfags get fucked

>>713451538
They probably had another actor doing her lines so the dialogue flows correctly.

>>713456560
lol how demeaning must it be to have your line set up for you karaoke style so you have zero room to fuck with the timing or enunciation

>>713472915
English is the original, it's what they tried to lip sync around. French dub was poorly received by the French, too.

Well, the difference in skill between Cox and Verso is kinda noticeable when he takes over.

>>713471261
Jennifer shut the fuck up. Imagine going

>uhm...ACHTUALLY

>>713473242
I mean... she is a redditor. There might be talented people on there but they have deep personality flaws.

>>713469254
>actors are pedos
>says the 4chan incel with loli porn in his pc

>>713462572
Nah it's because the director said one difficult options ala souls was meaningless in this game because builds range from being ok to completely nuking everyone

>>713473145
Starr is on the level of Nolan North and Troy Baker (hurr I know, popular = bad) where he could be a legitimate actor, but chose to stick to voice acting for whatever reason.

>>713474090
Typecasting in British TV is a motherfucker, and he hasn't been able to cross into American live action yet.

>>713448645 (OP)
Based Daredevil.

Ben Starr is 100% going to be in Xenoblade 4

>>713448645 (OP)
No, it's just American "voice" "actors" that are complete hacks. Massive egos for mediocre outputs that get mogged by literally anyone with a functioning voice box.

>>713448645 (OP)
Should I play this game in English or in French (its original language)?

>>713448645 (OP)
>"Now ask someone else a question, I'm uncomfortable."
why didn't they include that bit into the quote?

>>713448645 (OP)
Gustave is the worst performance in the game though?

>>713476930
English is the original and the lip sync matches up best with the English dub

>>713477145
and he's still better than 99.99999% of voice performances in other games.

>>713477267
Yes, but he is noticeably worse than the other VAs in the game

>english dub

>>713448645 (OP)
remember peter dinklage in destiny 1. he was so bad that they had to can him and get fuckin nolan north to replace him.

>>713477350
I wouldn't say noticeably

but I also think Maelle is the weakest voice performance in the game, personally

>>713448645 (OP)
>GOTY-worthy voice performance
The fuck does that mean? Gustave never any really big moment that made him stand out voice acting wise. All his best scenes are dead quiet. When Sophie dies, when he was about to kill himself and even when he died.

>>713477440
Obviously it's a subjective thing, but I think his delivery sounds very lazy in parts; when he does his attack lines and in his delivery of, "the paintress - must - fall" when you beat Evique. I'm sure there's other parts but it's been awhile since I beat the game.

>>713477706
I do agree he's not the most stand-out performance, but Maelle is just Jennifer English's 30-something year old voice, sounds nothing like a 16 year old

>>713449380
you are wrong zoomie

>>713473242
shes acoustic, just like me!

>Fucking vtubers shooting the shit actually do a better job at voice acting than so called professionals
Western side of VA is just shit, basically amateur league for decades now, with no signs of improving because of much nepotism exists.

>>713478512
ironically a good number number of those vtubers are or were VAs at one point

>>713456560
Souls games (at least up to elden ring, don't think Nightreign did) do this too. Miyazaki is in the room listening to the lines and giving feedback and direction right there and it's the reason those games have such memorable voices. On top of him completely skirting VA union's and hiring independent and classically trained people

>>713448645 (OP)
>>713448948
The issue is game voice actors are often amateurs. Its also why JP VAs are better, voice acting is a big thing over there.

>>713449169
Dumbass

>>713478512
No you are an english guilt race traitor. Your precious Japanese voices dont sound much

>>713469613
>Mmm yes, acting is totally easy bro! But uh, it's actually super hard to make money off it! Now let me go seethe about voice actors making money somehow.
You're a bit stupid aren't you?

>>713471738
>counters his argument by showing the flaws in his logic
>completely has an utter meltdown and goes "I-I'M NOT OWNED, YOU'RE OWNED, SHUT UP" with raging tears dripping onto his keyboard
This is sad. You have no actual argument, but I'll let you win if it makes you feel better, okay honeybuns? :)

>>713448645 (OP)
bluds last name is cox

>>713451860
He's in capeshit but he's been in plenty of other things, like Boardwalk Empire

>hundreds of posters making pennies a day escorting luggage through Mumbai aghast to find that some work actually generates value and is worth more money

i'm not surprised considering how half-baked the english dub was compared to the french one

>>713448645 (OP)
>pay us what we're hecking worth you need us!!!
>ew no I don't play games what am I an incel lmfao
I hope AI wins

>>713477440
Sciel is the weakest VA in the game.

>>713483458
Sciel gives me a boner so it's ok

>>713482952
What is blud babblin about

>>713448645 (OP)
Yes

people frequently ask me if im a voice actor because of the way i naturally sound. it would be nice but i dont know how to get into that sort of thing.

>>713477440
Lune's speech in Act 1 made me cringe hard. They definitely needed another take of that because it just sounds like she's trying to shout at someone without waking her parents up.

>>713483458
I think the weakest one is Sciel as well, after that. the weakest was Gustave, then Lune, then Renoir, then Sophie, then Verso and Maelle at the second place. Esquie was the best one.

>>713482952
He literally doesn't have time to play games, bro. If he's not on set for Daredevil then he's at conventions or promotional events. Add on to that a family and a strict exercise regime and when exactly do you expect him to sit down and play through a 40-50 hour JRPG?

>>713484039
for me, in terms of weakest to strongest its Sciel, (GAP), Lune, Gustave, Maelle, Verso, Renoir.

For side characters, I'd put Clea above Gustave. Also Alicia is Jennifer's voice heavily modified, yet the delivery for some of Alica's lines were really good, So I bumped up Maelle.

someone post paimon va tiktok video

Tara Strong is AMAZING.

The contrasting reactions from Ben Starr to Charlie Cox for this game. One dude went all on the niche gaming podcasts while the other didn't even know the game came out.

>>713486128
Charlie is filming the next Avengers movies why the fuck should he care about some obscure french game he spent 4 hours working on? Same with Andy Serkis that dude probably never played the game and doesn't give a fuck about it and he killed his role. Ben Starr is a C-list celeb and probably can't get jobs in acting, so he built a niche for himself in vidya.

>>713486326
I'm a big fan of Cox but I wouldn't put him anywhere above C lister. He hasn't really done much outside of Daredevil for the past decade and I think a big part of that has to do with whatever contract he has with The Mouse.

>>713477440
This shit is why judging acting quality is meaningless and anyone who says they know what good or bad acting is is talking out of their arse. If people did know what good or bad acting was entire genres wouldn't exist. Most people have no idea, let alone morons on the internet who play video games and watch anime 24/7.

>Actual actor gives better performance than voice """""actors""""""""
This should have been obvious to everyone who played the first Kingdom Hearts and heard Billy Zane, an actor whose career by that point was completely in the toilet blew every single other behind the mic simpleton out of the water

>>713449256
I don't see the issue, voice acting is gig work, it's feast and famine. Of course they need to earn a big chunk when they do land a gid to cover the big gaps between finding the next gig. This is like being angry that a band made a lot of money playing at a venue for 2 hours

>>713468853
the character up the top is a new up and comer basically btfoing the MC at the bottom in all his work and taking all his clients
the MC is constantly thinking and stressing about him, trying to figure out how to not lose to this new kid who got hired and goes out of his way to undermine him and try to get rid of him.

this scene happens after the guy at the bottom just got fucked over by their boss after the guy at the top yoinked his client by having that good of a pitch for the ad which the guy at the bottom didn't think he was going to do and had tried to set him up with his boss and it just backfired in his face massively.
the guy at the top says this, correctly identifying what don had been thinking and going through, but the guy at the bottom plays it cool and brushes him off despite it genuinely being all he was thinking about constantly.

so the image is pretty much when you say something to appear one way when you actually really aren't
its an "I ain't even mad" type image when you are actually incredibly upset.

>>713487138
>He thinks Zane was better than based Hades

>>713470124
>"He was the kindest, purest soul I ever met. And guys like you and me, we can work a lifetime and never measure up to his decency."

>>713448645 (OP)
And these niggas have the audacity to demand residuals. lol!

Is pic related the only instance of a Hollywood actor sucking so much he had to be replaced by a va? I remember Bungie hyping Peter Dinklage so much leading towards the release of Destiny only to have him replaced a year in and scrubbing any mention of him and even rerecorded all his lines with the new va.

>>713477267
>and he's still better than 99.99999%
This sentence template is exclusively used by retards. Why are you retarded?

>>713486128
Voice actors make their money from being personalities who sell autographs and picture opportunities at conventions. That's why the VAs are whoring for attention.
Charlie Cox is an idiot and doesn't understand how much free promo he would get by pretending to care, but he doesn't have to care, so he can afford being lazy.

>>713488804
Pretty sure he's locked up in some contract shit with Disney that prevents him from promoting it. Doesn't mean he cares but if Andy Serkis did some press for E33 for a couple extra bucks then I'm sure Charlie Cox would too if he could.

>>713488547
was that because he sucked or because they needed more lines, didn't want to/couldn't get him back so they had to get someone else to do it?
they might have just not wanted to pay him over and over

weird thing to not think about if that is the case tho

>>713488462
A shame that scene is sullied by Frank's cringe response to "HE GOT LIFE!!!" I knew word for fucking word what the next line was going to be and it pissed me off bad.

>>713489234
Have you listened to some of his deliveries? You can probably find a video somewhere.

>>713489464
I remember seeing some stuff about it on launch (and saw a friend of mine playing it a bit in person) and while I thought it was incredibly cringe I didn't think it was particularly bad or anything. Granted I only saw a little bit of it and absolutely not enough to judge about it nor was paying attention to it.
personally I think paying big money for celeb VA's is fucking retarded and with how bloated video game budgets already are its incredibly stupid. I also just dislike "celebs" in general and don't give a shit who is doing a thing in something.

weirdly enough video games are a bigger industry than all of film so its kind of strange to see famous movie people in video games instead of the other way around.

>>713486958
I think it'd be a great performance if she were playing a 30 something year old. As it is, I don't buy her as a 16 year old.

>>713489234
It was genuinely awful. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since it was the early days of Destiny and assume he was given absolutely no direction and zero background on who/what he was playing. Like X-Com where the VA's supposedly weren't told they were playing aliens.
Wrapping back around to E33 I think, barring the fact it caused lip sync issues, they had the animation done beforehand so the actors knew what their characters looked like and how they presented themselves. Good management considering how quickly they got their more expensive stars in and out of the studio.

>>713489894
>Like X-Com where the VA's supposedly weren't told they were playing aliens.
lmao
it gets funnier every time I hear it

>>713487975
memes tend to evolve past their original context. Like the actual scene ISHYGDDT is from has nothing to do with what the meme is used to say

and frankly, bringing up the original context for "I don't think about you at all" is in fact evidence of seething, an attempt by the person not being thought about to get in the last word/get one over on the person who posted it. Further reinforced by this wall of text trying to explain that no, I'm not mad, you're mad.

>>713448645 (OP)
yes. a lot of them are holdovers from when vidya was niche. they couldn't cut it in film, television, theater, or even commerccials. it's clear from how a lot of ps2 VA's make their characters slightly autistic sounding.

>>713470124
>hired better people to film new stuff and salvage it.
Really wish they would have redone it from scratch once they decided to scrap the original plot in favor of continuing the story where the Netflix show left off. It's quite jarring at times to notice what scenes were shot with the old story in mind while some others were filmed right after the new showrunners were in charge of the production. It's one of the reasons that made me drop the show after the first 2 episodes, as well as some characters being taken in some new directions I was quite displeased with, like Vanessa and Fisk.

>>713479853
>ja VAs are better
it is all they have, they do not have real actors, and their movies blow fat cock

>>713461573
I think the complaint is about 12-year-olds who behave that way infesting other environments and astroturfing the industry metrics.

>>713481438
It's prolly not even the same guy

>>713448645 (OP)
Well, yeah. It's been 30+ years of a western voice acting "industry", and 90% of the so-called talent, still sound exactly like the days when they just grabbed whoever the fuck happened to be around and plopped them in front of a microphone in a closet.

>>713490158
i'm not even the anon who said that I just saw no one responded when you asked for more information.
can easily sum it up into
>he actually was constantly thinking and stressing about him and got btfo'd right before he said this to try to act cool

you said you hadn't seen it and wanted context so you got context.
idgaf if you use it "wrong" or not.

>>713490296
You should at least watch the last two episodes. Those were made entirely by the new team, same as episode one. The cinematography and use of color is on a completely different level from the rest of the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F2HQ4kd1a0

>>713449256
And then she ruined everything by saying she was "underpaid".

>>713448645 (OP)
>small dev team
>composer hired off of soundcloud
>hires big name actors
anti-kino, it would've been kino as fuck if they hired no names and still killed.

>Are vidya voice "actors" actually just hacks?
Yes. AI does just as good of a job, if not better, in 9/10 cases. That all said, there are times where a VA impresses me and think they should make okay money. This has never been the case for any Twitter tranny eceleb who moonlights as a VA and spends his days bitching about a strike.

>>713491628
That episode is good
The last one not so much with the Punisher being retarded and all the memberberries being thrown around

>>713491871
They're not z-tier by any means but I wouldn't call Andy Serkis or Charlie Cox big name actors.

>>713450495
>$20 for a selfie
>$40 for an autograph
Fuck man, I'd be happy just to be a guest at one of my local cons.

>>713492060
Andy Serkis isn't a big name actor? What are you stoned?

>>713491980
Yeah, the script goes off the rails in the last episode, but I at least like the first third or so with Frank defending Matt in the apartment.
I laughed my ass off when Matt gets in the way of him killing the leader of the group, so he just goes over and pops one of the guys Matt knocked out.

>>713449380
That's why British VAs are good. They're actually classically trained and do theater.

I’m not gonna read any of this thread but I’m just dropping in to say Troy Baker is a complete hack of the highest degree
When he actually has to do an original character instead of imitating somebody else’s performance he’s fucking TERRIBLE

>>713465180
Everybody know all the dudes worked their asses off to impress her.

>>713448645 (OP)
Poor guy, imagine having to skip out on all the clout from a generational breakout hit of a video game because the mouse has him by the balls to work on a shitty revival of a good show that just came and passed like a fart in the wind

>>713473310
She is legit autismo if you watch her interviews. Girl wrote a massive encyclopedia of lore and she didn't put it in the game, she did it for herself!

>>713492240
The roles he's most known for are being a cgi monkey and Gollum. Two roles where you don't even see his face.

>>713492240
he's B-list at best. It's not like Andor was wall-to-wall with big famous actors.

>>713491628
>The cinematography and use of color is on a completely different level from the rest of the show.
I'll check them out. Honestly the lighting and the color palette of the original series, especially during the first season, were what made it stand out among the other cape series released at the same time. I was just as hyped as some of my other friends when it was announced as a revival but I quickly grew disillusioned once I watched that fight between DD and Bullseye in the first episode which heavily relied on CGI. Such a massive departure from the more grounded and street level kind of fights of the Netflix show.

>>713489793
>incredibly cringe
>not particularly bad
Are you a woman?
Perchance.

>>713492613
would vidya voice actors be taken seriously if they wore a monkey suit when they're in the booth?

>>713492240
He’s not a big name actor at all, what the fuck do you have to be smoking to think otherwise

>>713492240
>these replies to this post
I don't think we can even blame it on newfag summer. There are literal children on this board.

>>713493293
>There are literal children on this board
Anon, the majority of /v/posters are 17 years old. Maybe YOU don't belong here any more.

>>713493293
look anon I know we're all big nerds who love Lord of the Rings here, but Serkis isn't some top-tier A-list household name celebrity. His biggest roles are mocap roles, and the roles where he shows his face are bit parts, mostly. Even Andor is still pretty niche.

>>713448645 (OP)
>play death stranding
>campy as fuck but the performances are generally good
>at the end of the tutorial area Troy Baker playing Troy Baker… BUT WITH A MASK ON gives a monologue
>can’t stop laughing

The vidya exclusive ones that constantly try to group themselves with hollywood are hacks, yes. That game convinced me

>>713448645 (OP)
The fact this will make voice actors seethe makes me happy enough fuck those faggots.

>>713448645 (OP)
I love Mita's Japanese voice actress

>>713493508
No. I've invested hundreds, if not thousands, of hours in the absolute shithole since 07. I will outlive you all and be shitposting until ad infinitum.

>>713493293
Have you or anyone you know ever said a variation of the following sentence "Have you seen that Andy Serkis movie?" I doubt it and imo for an actor to be considered A-list they have to take precedence over whatever movie they're in.

>>713493293
You made me actually click the oringal posts to see if I was the dumb one, and nope. It’s you

He is the guy that people mainly know from the behind the scenes from LOTR. He was never even that prolific as a mocap/cgi actor. Also he fucking SUCKS when he directs

Again what are you smoking

>>713493565
People like Troy Baker are the definition of big fish in a small pond. He just can't hack it when you have fucking Mads Mikkelson in the cast.

>>713448645 (OP)
That's, uh, quite some catholic guilt man. Is Cox usually this much of a method actor?

>>713450805
Or badly instructed. Doing voice acting for nip games is quite hit and miss as you often just get text gay is often weirdly translated without any context.

>>713448645 (OP)
I mean as long as he did good job, he didn't make dumb political posts on twitter and not causing any stupid shit like those genshit vas, I wouldn't mind. I don't play this game btw so I have no idea how he sounds like and I also don't know this actor.

>>713494057
Yeah i ended up playing that game to completion, Mads is barely in it and still had a way bigger impact

Even tho Troy is the fucking main antagonist. Like what the hell, how does that happen

>>713462092
>mfw they killed off his character because they didn't have the money to hire the VA for more than 4 hours

>>713450445
Dunno. I mean sure for some game, sure. For other are crucial and honestly some games would not be so great without their iconic voice acting.
>Majesty 1 Vs Majesty 2 &clones

>4 hours
>10/10 VA work
next job id give him a 100k signing bonus because im not a jew and think people should be paid properly from their talent and skill

After Xenoblade and FF12, I'm entirely convinced that English accents fit JRPGs way more than American accents for English dubs. Innit anon fucking won but don't tell xim. Then again, this might just be true because English accents are way less common and there's no saturation yet.

>>713494682
I think it goes without saying that European accents make a lot more sense for a setting as entrenched in European folklore as fantasy, which most JRPGs fall under the umbrella of.

>>713491957
I genuinely can't take seriously someone that says this, AI sounds fake as shit, the only times it sounds halfway decent is when it dubs over someone else's acting, and even then there are these moments where the fucking thing doesn't know how to recreate a sound and just goes full bot, i can only see it working for shitty English lessons for third worlders

I’m fine with most VAs as long as I can tell they put in some effort even if I can still tell it’s them, i.e jennifer english or whatever tf her name is. Bitch from E33, Elden Ring, BG3 and other

From bg3 again i can’t stand ones like the Astarion actor where that’s just his voice. He was in the lies of P dlc and it was just YEP that’s astarion

>>713494816
Nonshit (read: paid) AI voice acting is near indistinguishable to the actors its mimicking. It has proper cadence and inflection and sounds less wooden that probably half of the "professional" VAs out there. Maybe OC voices suck (no idea), but the ones where the LLM has been fed samples of specific voices are very good.

>>713448645 (OP)
Ive been saying this for a long time, British Theatre actors can beat every single american VA within the span of a day and then they will not even talk about their roles. The VA clique in the US is beyond dogshit and they act like they have jobs at all. Meanwhile their entire existence can be beat in the span of a couple hours.

>>713448645 (OP)
>Are vidya voice "actors" actually just hacks?

Its good work if you can get it.

https://youtu.be/tHacjnIHzLM

>>713495032
I think you are just not used to listening english dialogue

>>713495032
Nah it still sounds like shit
They always get the sound of the voice right but everything else wrong

>>713494958
The guy that voiced Arlecchino in lies of P is fucking awesome, he nails the old timey voice so well

>>713448645 (OP)
Something that surprised me is Jesse from Breaking Bad, Aaron Paul, that dude sounded "good" in Dispatch too.

>>713449380
Christopher Sabat clutching his chest and crying right now

>watch Geoff’s summer game fest ad show
>multiple trailers saying “starring [insert VA/mocap faggot here] as whatever”

I don’t really care but absolutely NOBODY is buying vidyas based on that shit, they really need to stop trying to imitate hollywood
I think. A few devs tried to to that at TGA too didn’t they? I’m pretty sure the Naughty Dog reveal had INTRODUCING LITERALLY WHO PLAYING LITERALLY WHO

>>713495113
>The VA clique in the US is beyond dogshit and they act like they have jobs at all.
Yeah and they try way too hard to take ownership of whatever character they play and get involved in the game development. You don't hear of any of the euros Fromsoft hires as va's trying to get them to change their characters or clinging to that role they just record their lines and fuck off.

People really need to decouple themselves from thinking effort should be linear on how much you get paid. That's only for the trades.

>>713449380
There are bad VAs and bad actors that have done the other job and are still godawful at both.

>>713495171
kek

>>713450495
>VAs don't get residuals
The only way they would is if videogames started getting syndicated which is impossible unless everyone just rented videogames or used a service that allowed them to play certain vidya. That's how actors did it.

>>713448645 (OP)
Yes.

>>713477416
Kek

>>713489870
Don't dare to talk to me anymore artless simpleton

>>713498748
Do not lampoon me, philistine.

>>713448645 (OP)
>GOTY worthy
lmfao. Nothing about this 2 week-then-dead game is GOTY

>>713448645 (OP)
Actors>>>>>VA's almost 10/10 times.
Even VAs with theatre experience tend to blow western career VAs out of the water.
Stage acting experience should really be a requirement at the minimum.

>>713448645 (OP)
I gotta be honest I thought all the performances were kinda meh and enjoyed the french dub much more, even if I missed a lot of nuance and cues here and there

>>713494682
It only fits with fantasy JRPG’s. I can’t imagine british voices in Persona even if the VA’s are better than hollywood shitters

>>713492614
He's A-list in his mocap typecast for sure.

>>713460407
>being a faggot
fuck off nigger lol

>>713492975
>would vidya voice actors be taken seriously if they wore a monkey suit when they're in the booth?
Why not? Monkes are all the rage these days.

>>713495032
>kurwa hands typed this post

>>713470124
Rigg......

>>713492909
I thought having him voice it is incredibly cringe but the performance was not particularly bad from what I saw
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