Why do we never like or talk about the actual main character of Nier Automata?

Say something then, faggot.

We've talked about him lots. He's just less viral in fanart because 2B's hotter.

>>713457723 (OP)
i would rather fuck 9s than 2b

Replicant/Gestalt's story is so much better it's fucking unreal

>>713457723 (OP)
more like the actual main character of nortubel haha

>>713457723 (OP)
male BAD
female GOOD

The main character is A2.

>>713457934
>2B gets to show off her ass and thighs when she explodes
>9S can't show off his toned torso when he explodes

Sexism is real.

>>713458254
It would be if they actually put her story in the fucking game instead of assuming you watched the Japan-only stage play
If you're lucky you'll find it in book form on a resistance camp terminal after all the story beats you'd need to understand it for have already happened

>>713457723 (OP)
I assume because according to steam achievements
>63% of players stopped at ending A
>74% stopped at ending B
I also looking at these I forgot that I have the achievement for leaving 9S without pants post-self destruct (6.3%) but do not have the achievement for looking up 2B's skirt repeatedly (12.7%)

>>713458010
this is the right answer

>>713457723 (OP)
I have no memory of anything this character ever did

>>713458517
>he played route A and thought the game was over
embarrassing

>>713457723 (OP)
I want to kiss 9S

>>713457723 (OP)
because I don't remember anything interesting about him.

>>713458517
He just wanted to erase every machine (and A2) from existence and **** 2B

>>713458348
I half think Adam and Eve would have been an anatomically correct nude boss fight if Taro was allowed to get away with it.

love boys

>>713458517
He becomes punished, a man denied his wife

>>713458862
These are such nothing characters, there's so much pointless bullshit in Automata
I know it's a game about nihilism but coming from the first game where absolutely everything means something it feels like such a let down

>>713458815
I still can’t believe that scene where they dry humped in the rubble really happened. Like what was the purpose of that shit it felt so forced and unnecessary

>>713459182
I haven't played this game in a while, I unironically can't tell if this is a joke or not

>>713457723 (OP)
Garbage character. Kaim is better at murder, both Niers are better at caring. Still better than all the other characters in Automata by virtue of actually having some character.

>>713459154
I think they're fine for what they are. They're bait and switch villains setting up the real conflict, but Adam parallels the android's self-destructive obsession with humanity, as well as trying to find meaning in your existence after realizing that your creator and original purpose don't even exist anymore.

>>713459595
yo nigga that's deeeeeeeep

>>713457723 (OP)
We talked about him for years. The amount of seethe he caused on this board back when automata was released is legendary.

>>713457723 (OP)
because he kinda sucks

>>713459595
But 9S never tried to find meaning, he just went nuts

>>713459767
you're imagining things

>>713457723 (OP)
The episode where they go to the desert temple from the first Nier, then 2B kills 9S is ABSOLUTE FUCKING KINO

>>713460272
It's so good
I wish the game itself handled the 2E thing anywhere near as well as this

>>713460157
Because the only thing he ever managed to emotionally latch onto was 2B and the fight for humanity, just to be told that they were all intentionally designed to die for the sake of a war that doesn't even matter.

>>713460272
>>713460326
Did they adapt the prequel novella in the anime?

>>713458862
They don't have dicks, that is even a plot point on why they are so incompatible with humans and YoRHa
Androids have fully functional dicks and pusssies and even have libido because they are basically artificial humans, meanwhile Adam and Eve although look human, are still robots and cannot reproduce. IIRC it is why they try to fuck with 9S with the whole "You want to fuck/kill 2B"

>>713460414
>the prequel novella
Which one?

>>713460272
Should I watch this?
Does it just adapt the game or does it actually adds something to it?

>>713460204
We literally had a dedicated schizo back in nier general who seethed at 9S for months and screeched at every mention of his and 2B's relationships.

>>713460326
>turns out that the whole episode was the Commander watching old data as they prepare for the final assault
>there are screencaps of at least 15 different 9S's deaths
It's "show, don't tell", and they should have had something similar in the game, ie, when 9S hacks the bunker server he stumbles upon those pics taken by the pods

>>713457723 (OP)
FAGGOT character with a FAGGOT va. I hate that nigga's voice almost as much as I despise anything to do with Yuri Lowenthal.

>>713460547
Memory Cage

>>713460696
It animates the "Pearl Harbour descent" and has a TON of character development for A2.
It's fucking great, IMO

>>713460770
I dunno anon I think Natsuki Hanae is pretty cool

>>713457723 (OP)
Because people don't understand that A2 becomes the main character halfway through the game and that 9S is simply a plot device that was introduced at the beginning. If he was the main character he'd have his own agency rather than being fueled by hate due to a virus.

>>713460928
I don't mind him so much in the anime adaption. I can't stand him in Metaphor though.

so what the fuck is yoko taro doing now.
another neir game? another drakengard? a new series that will be connected to the other two in an even more ridiculous way?

The most kino moment in this game is when the twins from the first game help you enter the tower

>>713462441
He spends his days looking at erotic fanart from the game

>>713462879
if he makes a new game he could get even more

>>713462709
It's not the same Devola and Popola, though.

>>713462918
>Drakengard 1-3
>Nier and Nier Automata
I think he has enough

>>713463183
Do they share their memories or are they like completely different persons

>>713463452
They’re the same model type, there were many different Devola and Popola units throughout the world. The originals from the first game were killed and all the other units were blamed for their failure to protect Project Gestalt even though it was doomed to fail regardless (and a bit of lore suggests it was tampered with at the very start iirc). The other units were punished via feeling constant guilt despite having no involvement in what happened, had their past memories erased and were kept around to be used and abused and to serve as an example to all the other androids for like 8,000 years onward. Probably the biggest victims of the whole story all things considered.

>>713463452
Completely different androids. They were reprogrammed to feel constant guilt due to the "fuck up" of the Devola and Popola in Nier.

>>713463764
Why was project gestalt doomed to fail? Also why were the Nier replicant and gestalt so important, I kinda missed that part

>>713457723 (OP)

>>713464268
me on the right my wife on the left

>>713458363
Nips should quadruple down into autistic mediums that are harder and harder to be recorded/translated and leave Japan, because I know that's exactly why they're doing it. I find their struggle to not be seen by filthy gaijin eyes amusing.

>>713464029
Because the original gestalt died. They needed him to keep the other gestalts from relapsing. When the shadowlord was killed, they couldn't stop the rest from detoriating and couldn't revive humans.

He did nothing wrong.

>>713464029
>>713464527
Oh, and it was doomed to fail from the start because they failed to take into account the fact that there was some genetic defect in the original gestalt, which caused the subsequent gestalts to begin detoriating in the first place. The gestalts would start attacking the replicants and the replicants would start developing their own emotions and consciousness and not want to merge with the gestalts.

>>713457723 (OP)
No one likes him.

>>713464892
Oh so the shadowlord was keeping the other gestalts from turning aggresive?

>>713457723 (OP)
That's not my boy Emil.

>>713465181
Yeah.

>>713465208
Real Emil doesn't even show up in Automata though

>>713465526
Why not he not count as "real emil?"
I know he split himself a billion times and his memory and person is fragmented but I would argue it's still "him" and there isn't a different version of him present that counts more as him

>>713465526
Is that from a note Taro scribbled on a napkin at an izakaya, then stuffed into a random copy of Drakangard at a used game store?

>>713465459
What the hell is Maso? Something from Drakengard?

>>713465526
You get the "Emil's head inside a Machine" scene in episode 13. Also, as >>713465641 said, Emil made copies of himself

>>713465782
>copy-paste
Maso (魔素, lit. "magic element") is an extra-dimensional particle brought forth from the realm of Drakengard.

>>713465731
It's at the end of Scooter Emil's quest in Automata

>>713465459
>>713465872
Interesting. Who actually was Grimoire Weiss and what was his purpose? Was him being released by replicant Nier part of the plan?

>>713465782
The name scientists in the Nier universe gave to the magik from the Drakengard universe

>>713457723 (OP)
because the whole point of his character is how completely and utterly unappreciated he is, even though he's by far the most awesome badass in the game

>>713466109
>unappreciated
It's the opposite. He's so good that they keep him around even though he keeps finding out the truth, to the point that he's usually paired with an assasin just in case, yet they keep reseting him to factory settings

Did 2B also know the humans were gone and the war was pointless

>>713457723 (OP)
the hacking gimmick is stupid and i hate it and by proxy 9s is stupid and i hate him

>>713457723 (OP)
Secondaries don't even know he's the main character, and people with an actual interest in it moved on years ago.

>>713457723 (OP)
I'm makin' a bunny boy outfit of 9S currently.
Comin up pretty good too.

>>713465782
Elaborating on >>713465872, it's essentially the "magic" particle. Everything you see in their Nier universe that resembles magic (and a lot of things that don't such as hacking) is just fantasy magic. There's also an element of our world functionally being poisoned by it since it's not supposed to be here, it's also the vessel for Drakengard's vengeful god to carry its influence over into our world.

In the case of >>713465459, Nier happens to be able to handle the magic-powered gestalt process without going mad (aka "relapsing"), so he's essentially giving his maso away to other gestalts like a blood transfusion or something to keep them from relapsing as well.

>>713466043
Weiss is a vessel with a gestalt in it. There's a short story from a couple of the side books called "and then there were none" that covers the process of that, there are translations online if you're interested. tl;dr though, it's kind of part of humanity's superweapon bullshit being researched in the early phases of the whole timeline once Drakengard crosses over. Ultimately he and grimoire noir end up being relegated as a kind of failsafe to forcibly return gestalts to their replicant bodies by releasing a ton of magical energy when they're brought together. The ideal plan is for them to consensually rejoin but it's not really happening with replicants becoming sentient and more and more gestalts relapsing. Devola and Popola decide it's time for the "oh shit" button and that's where the story you play through after the prologue picks up.

>Was him being released by replicant Nier part of the plan?
I believe that was coincidental, but Devola and Popola work around it. They need the sealed verses to trigger the rejoining so they manipulate replicant Nier and weiss who's suffering from amnesia to gather them for them ultimately planning to betray him to save humanity. I forget which of the billion pieces of side content it's in but there are some logs written by Devola and Popola that cover what they're doing in the game and these decisions they make, it might be on the drama CD or something.

>>713466982
Send it to Yoko Taro when you are done

>>713466982
>>713467694
I know Taro signs 2B cosplayer thighs all the time but I wonder if he'd do it for a 9S

>>713467694
That is a fucking great idea
>>713467759
I think he'd dig mine

>>713467332
I feel bad for Devola and Popola, even though they almost kill Emil

>>713466553
I think that's intentionally left unclear

>>713467957
They're just doing their jobs and trying to save the human race
I love the way the first game plays with perspective and morality, narratively the game mogs Automata imo

>>713468227
I agree the story in 1 is better, although Automata managed to make me cry more

>>713458379
>most players have never played the game to completion
we're never getting a third installment, are we

>>713468467
Where and how? I don't mean to dismiss you I'm just genuinely curious because the game basically made me feel nothing the whole way through. None of the obvious emotional bits really worked because it shows them to you before you have any actual context for them and by the time you do have it you're already on the last route and you aren't going to see those scenes again.

Meanwhile ending B in 1 still gets me every time

>>713469130
Most people don't finish the games they buy in general
But people not even realizing there's more to game is probably a large part of the problem

>>713469138
At the end of Emil's quest, probably because it references the first game, and when all the machines from Pascal's village died

>>713469130
What would a third game even be about

>>713457723 (OP)
Most people literally didn't get far enough to realise that.
I saw the PSN stats when i was playing it circa 2018 and almost nobody got past the tutorial (Route A).
>>713458029
Even if it is,
1) it's delivered worse because 99% of it is just exposition dumps during boss battles.
2) The characterisation in that game is really awful. It's shounen anime tier. eg within 5 mins of meeting Emil he's literally crying and screaming about the "power of friendship".

>>713469130
We got a third installment, it came and went already.
It was called Nier Reincarnation, it was on mobile. That was literally the official canon follow up to Automata.

Now repeat after me: THANKS SQUARE ENIX! :^)

>>713470043
Emil only cries after Kaine's shade takes over the first time

>>713458517
If you play the game you'll find that Route B is the same as Route A except it's all from his perspective so you get to see what he was doing behind the scenes the entire time (hint: he was saving 2B's ass every step of the way).
Route's C and D focus exlusively on him and A2 as you swap between their quests at regular intervals.

>>713470150
Anon, this might surprise you, but that's actually what guys like Taro want to make. The most obscure and unseen content outside of Japan. They never wanted their games to be localized at all.

>>713462441
Yosuke Saito (producer) has hinted they are all working on a new game atm with keiichi okabe

>>713462709
That whole tower assault sequence at the end is one of the most intense and well directed sections in a video game.
The way you swap back and forward between 9S and A2, but as you reach the top the swapping becomes faster and faster.
Then you join together at the top for that boss fight, it was so kino.

>>713470043
>1) it's delivered worse because 99% of it is just exposition dumps during boss battles.
You cannot be serious, most of the significant story elements in Automata either aren't in the fucking game at all or are dropped at the worst time with little to no fanfare. The way the whole 2E thing was revealed would be like if Replicant B just had Kaine go "the guy in the supermarket was actually the shadowlord btw" in unvoiced text and without the cutscene or Ashes of Dreams or anything and then the game just continued onto the C/D option

It's so shit

>>713466693
You don't have to do the hacking. You can just attack enemies normally.

>>713470583
Alien Manifestation and Bipolar Nightmare are the most kino songs ever. The gameplay is incidental to the only talented person on the team.

>>713469693
>At the end of Emil's quest
I forgot about this bit, that's the one part that did it for me too

>>713470341
This is exactly what happened. For the 15th anniversary, they quietly released a new NieR Replicant excerpt titled “[U]ndecided Option” no translation, no press, no localization. It dropped silently on their Japanese site and barely registered outside of maybe the Yoko Taro general.

Glory to Mankind
That is all.

Why did Marika kill the hornsent?

>>713471249
The next event will be Taro personally handing out pamplets on a street corner after the visitors pass a DNA heritage test.

>>713457723 (OP)
I hate this faggot so much. I was so mad when I found I had to play as him for half the route C too. Stupid ass mini game. Fuck you Soul Box. Taking the kino second sword away. Playing route A again for 80% of route B. Mad at my waifu A2 for no reason... So many motives to hate him...

hate the sissy shit everybody makes of him. you dont need to amp that shit up, he already looks like he does.

>>713471740
heh

>>713458029
Nier's plot relies on the antagonists being as retarded as humanly (heh) possible for no other reason but to continue the plot without spoiling the twist. Grimoire Noir's saturday morning cartoon spiel is impossible to take seriously knowing what he's actually there to do, and D & P shitting their pants when they are literally only reason why you're even there is baffling. Also the game tries way too fucking hard to make the shades sympathetic, it works in some cases like with Beepy and the castle people but I was rolling my eyes hard with the wolves and Louise (although tbf she wasn't a part of the original game). The only genuinely well written part of the game is the conflict between Nier and the Shadowlord and is the only time it feels like the game gets its themes across without feeling like hamfisted "PLEASE feel bad for the Shades" drivel

>>713458379
>I forgot that I have the achievement for leaving 9S without pants post-self destruct (6.3%)
that was the first achievement I got in the game haha

>>713460696
its actually a sequel.. in a way, timeline shit and yeah its pretty good

>>713457723 (OP)
9S sucks balls

>>713474615
>Also the game tries way too fucking hard to make the shades sympathetic, it works in some cases like with Beepy and the castle people but I was rolling my eyes hard with the wolves and Louise (although tbf she wasn't a part of the original game)
This is my big complaint with the game too, it laid it on a little thick. A lot of the arcs in post timeskip just feel like it's telling me the same incredibly surface level message over and over once you can hear both sides of the dialogue and it's not really adding anything new.

What I really love about the first game (spoilering because it's genuinely my favorite bit of narrative play in any video game ever and if you have any interest in this series just go play Replicant instead of opening this) is the way the game tricks you into thinking you're fighting for the same thing you're fighting for in the prologue only to reveal the antagonist is actually the real "you" you thought you still were. I think it's the perfect example of storytelling that only works in video games, you really feel that knife twist because you were there fighting for it and believing it the whole time.

It's such an incredible way of presenting the "right and wrong is all about perspective" message compared to all the eyerolly BUT WHAT IF THE BAD GUYS AREN'T ACTUALLY BAD stuff above that it's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that they're from the same game.

I hate his shorts

>>713479452
True it would be better if he took them off.

I'll help

>>713479452
Same, they should be much shorter

>>713457723 (OP)
why's he so cute, bros?

>>713459154
The changes in the Anime were better.
I never had a brother but damn did I feel like I had one when Eve died.

>>713457723 (OP)
90% of people who jerk off to 2B don't even know she dies like halfway through the game

>>713470583
Let's not forget that the soundtrack for that part of the game is literally 10/10 as well.

disappointed we never got the leather jacked outfit

>>713483731
See now THIS is what his shorts should have looked like. And then briefs when he self destructs

>>713483731
boy thighs......

>>713483731
>>713483859
Why are there so few characters with this outfit in games?

>>713474615
the antagonists weren’t retarded they’re servants to the Shadowlord, they can't reveal anything to the replicants or act against his vessel
>Grimoire Noir's Saturday morning cartoon spiel
intimidation, to get Nier and co to stop

>>713457723 (OP)
He's fucking hot.

>>713457723 (OP)
Anyone know where I could find those gold kinds of buttons on his outfit?

>>713484761
the button store

>>713484854
They don't just SELL buttons like that at conventional stores dork

>>713457723 (OP)
Am I the only one who's getting tired of the lore shit this series has been going on with? I've played the games including Reincarnation and I DO like the stories, but I wish there was more conclusive stuff lore wise like Accord and group B and the black flower and the old world. Wish they would go back to Drakengard too, the android stuff is getting too samey.