Thread 713458067

Dogshit Combat 7: Fun Unknown
>duuuuude just wait for 30 minutes until we allow you to hit that super crazy unrealisticly fast plane that you can't hit haha because it's all scripted hollywood trash XDDD
>haha dude let us waste half of your missiles on unhittable target while you listen to your totally useless team maters who can't hit shit and begging you to do their work every fucking single time lmao

>>713458067 (OP)
d-did you not figure out how your missiles work and how to line up missiles?

you're not just dumping missiles when you see the lock turn red are you?

OP is a shitter but Mihaly being so scripted was stupid
Although the trouble with no scripting whatsoever is that you end up with the Mimic fights from the DLC that you can end almost instantly if you know what you're doing so it's important to get a good middle ground sometimes
That being said if you're wasting that many missiles on Mihaly where it's a problem then you're probably just stupid

>>713459174
They needed to kill the token nigger somehow for the story. The scripted mihaly fight was the best they could think of.

>>713458673
explain

>>713459425
Strider/Cyclops has two black guys, actually

>the best ace combat thread in recent memory was the thinly veiled iran thread
Grim

>>713459723
Magic Spear is just that good

>>713459652
This is how bad characters are in this game. I can't even remember them they come and go and nobody can even tell you what their personalities are. You can tell they were shoehored in since I can remember all of Spare but not any of these bozos. Not something to tell my son about.

>>713459557
For best results you want to hold locks until you can maneuver into a straight on angle on the enemy's ass or nose. Firing with their broad top or bottom facing you, or if they're already pulling a hard maneuver will usually end with them outmaneuvering your missiles tracking before they even get close.

>>713459723
>>713459773
You think fighter pilots only listen to Top Gun shit or are some of them ACfags
Pretty based to imagine them trading barbs over comms like
>Lets show them we can get wild and wet and do dirty dirty things
And so on.

>>713460490
100%, killing most of Spare and then just dropping the rest all for a bunch of normies was a waste. Especially when it's the perfect setup for character shenanigans if they ended up merging Spare with the LRSSG instead to shore up losses. Putting the professionals in the same squadrons as all of the criminal dipshits. I mean, if i was running long range, risky, probably suicide missions, that's where I'd want the cons to be.

>>713460737
There definitely are ACfags in the air force, there's that one picture of the guy with his copy of AC04 with him in the cockpit and AC music regularly shows up at air shows
But the only AC quotes they'd be using would be with each other, even if everything wasn't BVR these days it's not like your enemies would ever be on open channels

>>713460502
Then why does it say "lock on" if it isn't locked? I'll tell you why. Because the game is shit

what's the difference between red and blue weapons?

>>713461217
same reason you can evade enemy missile locks

>>713461217
it's locked, but your angle is bad so the missile isn't going to track to a likely hit. Missiles can't maneuver infinitely dingus

>>713461385
Because the game gives you false info?
>>713461404
Then why bother with a locking system?

>>713461404
Bullshit they can't that fucking faggot slav Mihaly was making his missiles 180 degree my ass
BULLSHIT FUCKING BELKAN TECH! FUCKING BELKANS

>>713461523
because missiles aren't magically hypermaneuverable

>>713458067 (OP)
Here you go OP
Now you can fly with the best of em

https://youtu.be/OCFMX5z-ed4

>>713461357
Red is anti-ground, blue is anti-air, generally speaking

>>713461523
don't post again until you've watched and understood this lecture from a 30 year old computer game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUevXzx-kvc

>>713460991
if we ever had an actual hot air war the odds are overwhelming that there'll be ace combat dorks on every possible side

>>713461603
Then don't fucking lock them
>>713461791
I've never watched something that long, give me the qrd

>>713462334
>I've never watched something that long
if you're watching movies sliced up for ticktock then just log off bro.

>>713462334
>noooo stop simulating the laws of physics and just make a target lock an instant kill!

>>713461948
>local AWACS or ECM mule starts blasting Magic Spear or Showdown over every relevant frequency
>everyone on both sides drops tanks and mission critical equipment save for a2a
>all pertinent objectives aborted in favor a dogfight
>everyone's commanders on the ground back at base fucking seething
it'll be a sight to behold

>>713462418
not that anon, but this game isn't a sim. it's supposed to be fun, not realistic

>>713461948
>spamming MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE at the enemy comms with hacking

>>713462464
it's not a full sim but it's not braindead either.

>>713462436
For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qLGRt2jMks

>>713462436
>do you challenge my honor, Mohammad
>engagement turns into a visual range joust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k

>>713462409
I'm not your bro now give me the qrd
>>713462418
I'm playing a videogame not studying math

>>713462760
the qrd is stop posting until you have watched and understood the lecture.

Why are you all feeding someone who sound like they're no older than 15?

>>713462464
>I need to find the right angle to score a goal? I'm trying to play FIFA not do math!

>>713462828
Your math lesson has nothing to do with the game giving you false info about the missiles being locked

>>713463441
there's no math involved you illiterate cretin.

I really think anyone that can play through mission 19 and not put AC7 in their top 10 (at least) is just devoid of something fundamental.

>>713463605
>name calling
I accept your concession

>>713464046
stop posting until you have watched and understood the lecture.

>>713458067 (OP)
Newfag kun if that is your problem with AC7 then I don't know what to tell you. The real problem with AC7 is that EVERY FUCKING MISSION IS A GIMMICK MISSION.

It is like having a sandwich shop and you have two types of sandwiches on the menu and like 100 different dishes from various cuisines of the world. I want a fucking sandwich.

>>713462848
Ace Combat threads are almost always headed by one retard for some reason, it's weird but also hard to care about

>>713464148
What's your definition of a non-gimmick mission?

>>713464148
I replay the missions I like

>>713463914
I read once someone saying that Daredevil was overrated and I became forever assured that I will never be that level of contrarian

>>713464148
>food analogy

>>713458067 (OP)
Back at it again after your little hiatus, DCSkun? Five years of solid shitposting too much for you so you needed a break?

>>713464282
First 2 missions which are always ground and air tutorial. Assault on Farbanti and those two other points missions and that is it I guess. Everything is gimmick central. I want PS2 ace combat. Specifically AC zero. Holy shit imagine AC7 team doing AC zero round table battles every single time there would be a new gimmick in those.

>>713460742
Problem with that is Trigger would still be seen as a criminal if he was stilled rolled in with what was left of Spare Squadron instead of being transferred away.
Also LRSSG wouldn't work criminals because what woulds top them from going on a long range mission and never coming back?

>>713464402
it's good, better than most games entire OSTs on its own, but not as good as Zero or Megalith
not even nostalgiafagging, 7 was my first AC

>>713464409
DSP analogy thank you very much.

>>713462334
you see anon the missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't at all times

>>713462334
Then use your fucking gatling gun

>>713458067 (OP)
But enough about HAWX

>>713462436
>everyone just abandon encrypted comms and proceeds to rage on an open channel
>someone talks shit about your favorite ace combat
>everyone turns on him

>>713464835
THIS IS THE MISSILE GUIDANCE SYSTEM BITCH WE CLOWN IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER
YOU'D BETTER TAKE YOUR SENSITIVE ASS BACK TO GPS

>>713462576
>songs to get wet ,wild, and do dirty dirty things

>>713458067 (OP)
Yeah? And it's fucking great.

>>713459174
OP would have a stroke playing AHL because the AW in that game works in pulses where if it activates while a missile is loose and locked on, it loses the lock and just flies away harmlessly.

The missile knows where it is.

>>713464642
It's not even just the OST, it's the way it was used.
That moment in mission 19 is genuinely epic, in the proper usage of the term.
But yes, the final dogfight against Pixy is probably just as good. I wouldn't put AC4's last mission on that level (that belongs to Stonehenge Offensive) and then AC5's final mission.
But I'd say that Lighthouse and Zero (the mission) are just in a league of their own.

>>713461217
>Then why does it say "lock on" if it isn't locked? I'll tell you why. Because the game is shit
my brother in Christ... "locked on" means the radar sees the target, and has cued a missile to it.
it does not mean it's a good shoot. let me put it this way. let say you are using a rifle. just cause you can see the target through the sights, does not mean the shoot is possible.

>>713458067 (OP)
>try to play this in first person
>ant field of view
>need to use cheatengine to up the field of view
dropped

>>713466215
the only AC with good FOV is AC6

>>713465080
>hear pic rel over open comm

>>713461217
Thank you for confirming that you've never played any aerial combat game ever, except maybe star fox

The most annoying thing about AC7 missiles is that they have better lock on performance when the red symbol is at the edge of your view than in the center.

>>713467394
I went back after playing 7 and played 6 for the first time. I was pretty amazed that 7 feels like a genuine step back in a lot of regards. Like they abandoned the wingman controls, and open multi-mission maps in favor of kiting the nostalgic ps2 fans.

>>713467875
>in favor of kiting the nostalgic ps2 fans
I am a nostalgic ps2 fan who never played 6. 7 was the worst game in the series (except assault horizon but that wasn't an ace combat game).

>>713467875
>>713468028
6 was a comercial failure in most respects. Don't blame them for, when given a shot to revive the franchise, they went with that they know works and is still good.
>7 is the worst
Actual contrarian. Not even saying the other games are bad but, that's just pure contrarianism.

>>713467798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKpntt0oEI8

>>713468503
It is not contrarian. The game is passable but it is also another example of reviving the IP and changing it too much. As such it is the worst one in the series for me. I had more fun with every other game in the series when I was growing up. And I had more fun with pic related than AC7 so no it is not just nostalgia for childhood. Pic related is actually more of an Ace Combat game than Ace Combat 7.

>>713468876
You just said it's a step back compared to 6 it's a step back, that's because it's closer to the 04, 05, Zero "trilogy"
In everything from gameplay, to tone, to characters.

>>713469157
Never played 6. I played everything ps1/2/psp even 3ds. This feels nothing like ps2 ace combat.

>>713468876
You are fucked in the head. Go replay 5 right now and say that again. Even saying PW is more of an AC game than 7 is fucking wild.

>>713469286
It's literally the same game with higher fidelity graphics. What exactly is different in your eyes.

>>713469460
>PW is more of an AC game than 7 is fucking wild
Kill yourself zoomer trash. It obviously is.

>>713468876
>it is also another example of reviving the IP and changing it too much
There is no fucking pleasing you retards, is there?
>AC franchise is buried for 5-something years
>people bitch
>AC franchise is revived and looks and plays great
>people bitch
I bet my left buttock that if AC7 was a carbon copy of, say, 5, you faggots would bitch that there were no changes and that Bamco "isn't keeping up with the times". Pretty much the only drawbacks AC7 has is that it is short, linear and the plot is weak as hell. Everything else is just contrarian whining from permanently unhappy, impossible-to-please shiteaters.

If you want to play a realistic flight sim there are plenty of options

>>713469726
why would you want to do that

713469594
Oh you're just a baiting nigger. My mistake go ahead.

>>713469594
>everyone's having a decent discussion, disagreements but nothing that vitriolic or adhom yet
>ZOOMER TRASH KILL YOURSELF
nta but are you going to tell him next that he, solely, is responsible for this?
All he said is that he he thinks it's wild you think PW is more AC than AC7. He didn't insult you, he disagreed with you. Nobody even says you don't have a right to your opinion, we're just asking you perhaps justify it a bit better.

>>713469717
>contrarian whining from permanently unhappy, impossible-to-please shiteaters.
I don't want a carbon copy of, say, 5. I want a carbon copy of zero or 3 JAP. And if that is impossible please give me 4. My main issue is >>713464148. I want Ace Combat in my Ace Combat. I don't want the electromagnetic interference of the drones is now forcing you to keep your play upside down all the time or your fuel will explode. It is tiresome.

>>713458067 (OP)
I need AC8 so bad bros.
Played the Project Wingman DLC recently and it was alright, final boss too messy again and the most memorable mission was just something they stole from AC again (tunnel)
What else do you guys play when you get AC urges? I guess I could try more of the early Armored Cores but I hate the slow movement in those.

>>713458067 (OP)
Is this game good for a newcomer? I missed ac during my ps2 days but recently beat armored core 6 and want more pilot kino so ace combat seems like a good series.

>>713470140
The only gimmick missions I can think of in AC7 where the gimmick got annoying was the desert sandstorm mission. I can't even really identify a "gimmick" off the top of my head, not that you're wrong but just saying.
I guess the first mission against Mihaly but that was a great build up to your main ace enemy.

>>713470203
I only played Assault Horizon before it and I didn't enjoy AC7 at all.
try it before you buy it

>>713470112
He is a zoomer and zoomers are trash. It is impossible to play AC 1-3 on original PSX then play 7 and PW and say PW isn't more of an Ace Combat game than 7. You have to be a zoomer that first played 7 to think otherwise. It is obvious.
>>713470203
Yes it is peak accessibility for newfags. You will never get bored with actual core gameplay of the series.

>>713470305
I'll take a look, thanks I really dig the osts from the previous games that get reposted frequently and it's always been kind of on the edge of my radar.

>>713470367
Nice, thanks

>>713469286
How so? I played them all in a row a few years ago and 7 felt like a very direct successor to those, just with vastly improved presentation and some cool new mechanics. Specifically it felt the most like a sequel to 5 which was my favorite so I loved it.

>>713460737
All of them are ACfags, none of them are DCSfags. it’s pretty funny.

>>713470367
Nothing about AC 1-3 plays like PW and then lets not even talk about the fucking tone of the games. Can you seriously play through Kings or Cold War and fucking say the tone of that isn't far more in line with 04-Zero than it is 1-3
Also, hate to tell you mate, but 1-3 are not good games comparatively to 7. I can accept that you'd prefer 04-Zero to 7, since those games are properly realized Ace Combat games on all levels, but once you start trying to claim 1-3 are better than 7 or even 6 you've gone into a level of contrarian oldfagging I simply cannot respect. It's the same shit as the people that try and claim Armored Core's PS1 games are better than AC6. it's a fucking delusion and most of the times I dismiss it as bait because it's a level of "old good new bad" that is completely removed from reality.

>>713464282
He just wants endless timed score missions without any actually creative/memorable ones to break up the pace between those.

>>713470303
Drones are a gimmick. 3 times flying fortress instead of 1 is a gimmick. Getting hit by lightning in a canyon is a gimmick. Desert is a gimmick. Mountain low attitude satellite sam is borderline gimmick. Mihail Railgun shenanigan's is a gimmick. ADF drones is a gimmick (and there are 2 missions with those). Visual target identification missions are a gimmick. Shoot the ammo for arsenal bird in thunderstorm and it blows up like a nuke is a fucking gimmick. Fly around without shooting anything and make a distraction is a gimmick.

The ratio of gimmick missions to non gimmick missions is completely reversed. In normal ace combat you get like 3 or 4 missions like that. Here every single fucking mission has a gimmick.

>>713470821
>creative/memorable ones to break up the pace between those
It is not even breaking up the pace. It is score missions breaking up the pace between a string of gimmicks.

Yeah I'm skipping all the cutscenes. I want to dogfight and blow up targets not watch an anime. The comms spam is annoying though if you switch language to japanese it just becomes gooky background noise while you blow up targets.

Ace Combat threads were usually the most tame and peaceful threads on /v/ until 7 came out on PC. And then got worse by the time PW came out. Hence, I think most people who complain about crap in AC threads are new to the series.

>>713470861
Okay, would you rather just have missions where you do the exact same thing (shoot buildings or other planes) over and over? To this day I don't understand this perspective, why would you not want your missions to be more differentiated and interesting? If you love that one type of mission so much just go replay the same map over and over, they always end up feeling super samey.

>>713470795
1 and 2 are garbage. 3 is my favorite after 0.

>>713471069
>Okay, would you rather just have missions where you do the exact same thing (shoot buildings or other planes) over and over?
YES! HOLY FUCK YES! I AM NOT A ZOOMER! When I order a sandwich I don't need 10 sides to distract myself with as I eat my sandwich.

>>713468876
PW is pretty shit.
No reason to play again once you beat it.

>>713471278
This but AC7.

>>713471363
t. shitter

>>713464567
Lets have a look then, at AC7
Missions 1 through 3 have no gimmicks. Mission 4 has the gimmick at the start of dodging the radar but it's earned because it's a pivotal mission to the plot. Mission's 5 and 6 have no gimmicks either. Mission 7 is Mihaly's first appearance so the gimmick with the thunderstorm fits. Mission 8 I'll grant you is grating as fuck. Mission 9 was the low altitude one but also had the second half which was a straight up dogfight. Mission 10 has no gimmick, unless you count it's an escort mission at which point we're stretching the definition here, mission 11 and 12 have no gimmicks either. Mission 13 has no gimmick. Mission 14 has the run through the canyon. Mission 15 has no gimmicks. Mission 16 has the radar being down. Mission 17, 18, 19 have no gimmicks unless you count things like Mihaly boss fight or taking down Arsenal bird. Mission 20 has the tunnel run.
So out of 20 missions, 8 have gimmicks. Of those 8, one is mission 4 which is a big moment in the game, so's mission 7. I'd even throw mission 16 into here since it's the mission after the big setpiece of 15 so a slow down fits.
So out of 8 gimmicks take out 3 that fit where they were put, so that's arguably 5 missions which the gimmick's "intrusive" in my view. Out of 20 missions that also include Lighthouse, Battle for Farbanti, Fleet Destruction and Stonehenge Defensive and Two-pronged Strategy, which are some of the best in AC.
What's the issue then?

>>713469460
>Even saying PW is more of an AC game than 7 is fucking wild.
Which AC game did you play first anon?

>>713471625
Here:>>713470861 I hope you are from the marketing team. Tell your devs to stop this zoomercore bullshit for AC8.

>>713470141
Raiders Sphere 4th
Ace of Seafood
Strike Suit Zero
Wing of Darkness
Elite Dangerous

For emulation -
Sky Crawlers
Rogue Squadron series

FYI most of these are shit, but you might find them enjoyable

>>713471760
>Sky Crawlers
Actually got it online and played it on my old Wii already, that final boss is a bitch.
Thanks for the other recs

>>713471715
>everything I don't like is a gimmick
Drink bleach and play in traffic.

>>713471760
>Ace of Seafood:In the seas of the distant future, humans have all but disappeared.
>Raiders Sphere 4th: In the distant future, humanity has turned Venus into a livable environment.

>>713471884
Everything that is a gimmick is a gimmick. Lill yourself with cancer in a fire faggot. I didn't even include the gimmicks that are staple of the series because those have a place. I only listed all the new zoomer ADHD key jiggling shit that shouldn't be there.

>>713471646
As for PW I used to play the demos before AC7 launched.

>>713471715
>everything I don't like is a gimmick
You're just objectively wrong
>drones are a gimmick
No they're not, they're an enemy type
>3 times flying fortress is a gimmick
No it isn't, it's repeating a boss
>getting hit by lightning is a gimmick
In a mission that introduces your main enemy ace, it's a FITTING gimmick
>mountain low attitude satellite sam is a borderline gimmick
No it's just a gimmick.
>Mihaly railgun is a gimmick
No it isn't.
>ADF drones is a gimmick
No it isn't.
>visual target identification is a gimmick
It happened once in the game (other games did it more) and it fit the situation
>Shoot the ammo for arsenal bird in thunderstorm
Fuck are you even talking about
>Fly around without shooting anything and make a distraction is a gimmick.
Again explain
>I hope you are from the marketing team. Tell your devs to stop this zoomercore bullshit for AC8.
This is your last (you), so actually no don't bother explaining. You're clearly a baiting retard that just wants to shit on AC7 and you're using whatever bait you think will get you replies. I was wrong to even engage you in good faith.
tl;dr find a rope you worthless shitposting faggot. Find it and kill yourself. End your pathetic, worthless existence and stop wasting the oxygen the rest of actually functional humans need.

>>713471760
I like how Rogue Squadron follows the AC formula but it's a bitch to emulate and always crashes after 1 mission

>>713472150
Take your adhd meds instead of forcing other people to play games designed for tik tok zombies with 10 second attention span.

>>713472092
>old gimmick good new gimmick bad
I refuse to believe some of you faggots are this stupid it has to be bait

>>713472360
I wouldn't mind swapping old gimmicks for new if at least 70% of the game was normal missions.

>>713470141
I want a full-on remake of AC3 (the japanese non-ruined version) with AC7's presentation level. AC7 was already straddling scifi territory, just let them go wild with it

the japanese version of AC3 is by far the best ace combat game, sadly western console idorts are too low-IQ to appreciate visual novel elements in a game, which make you care about the characters and what happens in the missions

also an actual plot is of course too complex for the consolefags

The worst gimmick I have ever seen in Ace Combat is 5's radar destruction.
Where timing your shots and speed is crucial or mission failure
Why

i would like to see an ace combat game with piston-engine aircraft
and then maybe put time travel shit in so you can have an F-15 obliterating IL-2s

I can't believe this thirdie keeps making this fucking thread. This is the third time I've seen him make it.

>>713468503
>6 was a comercial failure in most respects
This is entirely because it was xbox exclusive.

>>713472732
I'm not usually one for remakes, but I'd get an AC3 remake immediately.

Why are people talking about 7's gimmicks but not 5's? Why does 5 get a pass but not 7?

>>713473307
Because 5 is unfiltered kino

>>713472150
>Shoot the ammo for arsenal bird in thunderstorm
>Fuck are you even talking about
The mission where you chase those 2 supply shuttles that are supposed to fly to the Arsenal Bird. Don't remember the mission number.
>Fly around without shooting anything and make a distraction is a gimmick.
>Again explain
The first Spare squadron mission where you're not allowed to use weapons for the first couple minutes before it goes back to normal.

>>713471069
>why would you not want your missions to be more differentiated and interesting?
Pic related is the way to do it. Nobody is going to decide to replay the guide bunker buster bombs mission because it is differentiated and interesting. This is what was worth repeating and they didn't even do it in this game. That is why AC7 is zoomer trash.

>>713473329
>The mission where you chase those 2 supply shuttles that are supposed to fly to the Arsenal Bird.
What.

>>713473307
that would imply the secondary has played any ace combat besides 7.

>>713472995
it's called Innocent Aces and I liked it.

unironically the best romance story in a vidya

>>713469157
4 5 and 0 have more gameplay control with wingman commands than 7.

>>713473486
>Innocent Aces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-SNbtUqMHk\
looks fun

>>713473307
I genuinely don't remember any other than shoot the windmills, take a picture of a base and fly low in training planes while 8492 flies above you. And the final boss which was a letdown...

>>713473329
>The mission where you chase those 2 supply shuttles that are supposed to fly to the Arsenal Bird. Don't remember the mission number.
Mission 17, Homeward. I don't recall a thunderstorm, you just fucking shoot the fuckers at the end after clearing the island.
>The first Spare squadron mission where you're not allowed to use weapons for the first couple minutes before it goes back to normal.
Oh yeah, totally forgot since that's literally just the start.
Again, stretching the definitions of gimmick. Neither count in any sane reality.

>>713473597
NTA but it totally is. Definitely give it a shot.

>>713473526
Wingman Commands are, dare I fucking say it, a gimmick. They barely impact the actual fucking gameplay. Not as if your AI Wingmen are of any use realistically. It's a gameplay element that's there to make it appear like it means a damn.

>>713473486
Oh wow. I had no idea this exists.

>>713473635
Finding Nagase and that bio terrorist mission called Reprisal (best music track in the game tho)

>>713473635
There's the tunnel mission where doors are closing in on you

>>713473405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKPOVzhiKc&t=1190

>>713473597
I especially enjoy how it uses wagglan as a HOTAS

>>713473853
it's a tie-in to a decent film, too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPoV62HmS0

>>713473990
>tunnel mission
Zoomer please...

>>713473526
>4
>wingman commands

>>713473635

How about guiding that stupid AI bomber through a radar field? Fuck.

>>713473990
that was a good mission though, it was like megalith but way more insane

>>713473921
>Finding Nagase
???

>>713473697
There's definitely a thunderstorm with it.
>>713474005

>>713474058
>it's a tie-in to a decent film, too
I'm not sure whether to be impressed with myself for recognizing production I.G from that thumbnail alone. Though that's pretty wild that it was directed by Mamory Oshii. Should I play the game before watching this?

>>713474164
Well according to the it is not a gimmick specialist it is not a gimmick cause the last mage squad mission starts with it.
>>713474271
I remember snowstorm in the night mission but don't remember what it was about.

Do any of you actually play these games?

>>713474271
One where you track her voice down anon
>>713474198
Agree.

>>713474320
either way is fine. the game is a prequel to the film if chronological order matters to you.

>>713474376
Yes! All of them. Except 7.

>>713474271yeah don't what he's going on about, that was heartbreak one who took the shot before she gets hit in like the fourth mission

>>713474376
newfag playing AC4 for the first time
it's good but definitely an earlier game than 7 or 0 with a more basic flight model

>>713471760
Strike Suit Zero is pretty good but very short. Has a great OST too.

>>713474282
Fine then.
So make it 9 missions with a gimmick, 3 removed because it fits/it's earned, that's 6 missions with a gimmick out of 20

>>713473486
>>713473597
>>713473716
Also it surpasses 7 in Wingman body count

>>713474497
Mission 15, before not-Desert Storm
A bit gimmicky

>Fun unknown
I giggled. Good one OP.

>>713474376
Fivefags sure don't apparently.

>>713470645
>Specifically it felt the most like a sequel to 5 which was my favorite so I loved it.

Is anyone that worked on ace combat 3 still at the company?

*coin flip*

>>713475317
the mission that broke /v/

>>713474617
If you need me to spell it out here is the definitive list of non-gimmick missions.
1
2 (I am being charitable cause those motherfuckers couldn't even hold their drone load in their balls for the traditional 2 mission tutorial)
5 (I will charitably skip the intro)
6
11
14(low altitude restriction is part of ace combat games)
15
18
19 (here is your free single flying fortress ticket. also part 1 of the mission is what ace combat is supposed to be)
9/20 with me being charitable.

>>713468876
reminder that pw2 is never ever

>>713461217
You're retarded and a faggot

arcade flight games no longer interest me

>>713474693
that can't be

simulator flight games have never been of interest to me

>>713475391
/v/ did read the briefing right? They don't get [mission failed] by shooting first before the countdown, right??

>>713475742
>simulator flight games
3dpd
>>713475636
>arcade flight games
2d perfection

>>713463441
But the missiles are locked. The IR/radar seekers have identified a target and calculated a path to it. The pilot fires them and the computer in the missile recalculates its path and makes adjustments several times per second. Because the missile is moving very fast, and there are no brakes on a solid rocket motor, there are situations where it can't turn sharp enough to maintain an intercept with the target.

>>713475418
You're wrong. Already broke it down
>>713471625
Here, and throw in 17. So that's 9/20, and 3 of them are earned so 6/20 gimmicks.
8, 9, 10, 14, 17, 20.
Six missions with gimmicks, 4, 7 and 16 only count if you've got no concept of game design.

>cum historia
>stands up
>drops pants
>pumps cock
>gets phone
>selfie
>black and white filter
>waits for the ejaculation
>cums
>*snap*

>>713462828
Have you considered that you might be retarded? A missile that has locked on to a target does not guarantee a hit.

>>713461948
>>713462436
>if we ever had an actual hot air war
Never going to happen with Beyond-Visual-Range missiles and stealth.

>>713458067 (OP)
>I fire missiles at whatever without checking speed, distance, cloud cover and relative position: the post
>I can't prioritize targets: the post
>I don't know how to compensate bullet trajectory: the post
>I don't like cool over the top scripts: the post

don't try playing the dlc missions on ace. Because if you think the base game is hard to S rank you're gonna have a wake up call.

>>713470645
>like a sequel to 5
Same writer as 5. And they got the voice actor for the mission briefing guy to come back and brief you in the second half of the game in the English dub.

>>713461217
Because it's not actually locked. It's keyed.

>>713476270
misclick.

>>713476271
I know, I'm just having fun. The modern world is so gay.

>>713476410
Yea, obviously meant for this >>713463441 fuckwit.

>>713469157
It feels like a sequel to 5 with a bunch of other callbacks

>>713476297
Nah, let him mess all over his crisp white sheets in agony

>done with the alicorn mission
>feel empty now
I'm out of cash I should've boughted that deus ex port, that can keep me busy for a lot of hours.

Why did Ace Combat go the way of 5 and 6 instead of 4 and Zero?
5 and 6 just had so much story and yapping and gay nonsense that I just don't wanna listen to, meanwhile 4 and Zero are just straight to the point pure games.
I've kept myself purposefully spoiler free of 7, but will I like 7 if I already couldn't really stand 5 or 6?

>>713475839
The annoying thing with that mission is the radars need to die at 0 not you firing at 0 so if you aren't right on top of them when 0 hits then you need to pre-fire. Its impossible to get right on the first try.

>>713476676
It should have been zero with story from japanese 3. I don't get it how it is possible they don't just sit down before they start working and decide on obvious choice like this.

>>713476676
>will I like 7 if I already couldn't really stand 5 or 6?
It is 3 different stories stitched together to be one. So it is yapping and in the end it doesn't really make sense. The only remotely interesting part was the spare squadron part and that was fun but it just stops and goes nowhere in the end.

>>713475674
I'd have to double check the number again, but if IIRC, 14 named wingmen with portraits are killed either because of the plot or you have to kill them.

>>713462436
>everyone goes to solitary once they touch ground

>>713476676
>Zero
>no yapping or gay nonsense
There's like 20 live action cutscenes shot documentary style. And pixy's politics and platitudes might be some of the gayest content in strangereal. I love it for what it is, but don't pretend it's not pretentious filler.

https://youtu.be/R6hpReqjTrA?feature=shared

<<BISHOP!>>
<<ILLICH!>>
<<MARKOV!>>
<<GUTS!>>
....
<<Shit.>>

**Dogfight mode engaged**

<<GET BACK HERE MARKOV!>>
<<DAMN!>>

>>713477010
ok you have a different definition of body count from me

>>713477138
I liked the livery editor and hope it comes back in the next game.

>>713463914
I take it people don't like fighting UAV niggers.
*does a u turn in 0.5 second out of nowhere (full speed)*

>>713476676
Lots of yapping in 7 but never as bad as 5, also some funny lines like the belkan witchcraft one.

if they remake AC3 i hope there's lots of scifi weapons you have to aim
the laser cannons in ac7 were some of the most fun in the game

>>713475883
Why don't we put pilots in the missiles?

>>713476676
6 has objectively the best gameplay. I don't know why they didn't bring it back for 7.

>>713477181
What do you think bodycount means? It's wingmen dying.

>>713464148
Gimmicks are kino.
The mission that asks you to defend the commander of the penal unit is shit thowever. I'm never doing it again.

>>713477138
I miss that compilation meme video where it's about all the times Bishop says 'shit' in the game

FUCK BANDOG

>>713477335
Ask the Japs, they're an expert in that

>>713464148
Fleet Destruction was gimmick free

>>713458067 (OP)
Just want to say I am trying this game again without shitty VR because of this thread

>>713477103
NTA but it is straight to the point romantic stuff instead of meandering about that is AC5 or AC7. In a way it is perfection from both gameplay and plot standpoint.

>>713476676
You are an autistic faggot and even straight up fucking wrong about 4 and zero not having story and "yapping". Holy fuck I hate zoomers so god damn much it's fucking unreal.

>>713468876
Heard the ai is shit and isn't even doing dogfights with you, and that unlike AC7 all the missions blend together with samey objectives.

>>713458067 (OP)
>finally get computer that can run AC7 and ACC well
>my flightstick and G27 aren't compatible with Win 11
ayfs

>>713477335
The missiles are too small. And the reduced warhead capacity would limit the missile's effect on targets.

>>713477329
These things are so good that I can't even use them. They make every mission so easy

>>713477526
i bought psvr1 for ace combat and i'm not mad but i am disappointed

>>713477520
>forgot about putting meat between those buns and serving up a hamburger

>>713463914
It is bargain bin Shattered Skies Comona mission from AC4. And once again even Project Wingman did it better.

>>713477494
Nah, bandog was right. Also fullband (Bill Murray) shouldn't have been throwing top secret intel around over open radio channels

>>713477103
Pixy's antics doesn't stop the game. Play them back to back and you'll notice just how much more brevity Zero has and how much quicker it actually moves. Like 6 missions in and you have already had your second ace battle and it's awesome, and I'm currently 6 missions in on AC5 and I'm already sick of these characters.

>There's like 20 live action cutscenes shot documentary style
Pretty sure for each play-through you only get like 9 total interviews. They don't play all 20 or whatever how many there are back to back, come on now.

>pretentious filler.
Literally the only filler in the entire game is the Waldreich Mountains mission

>>713477285
I might get it if it goes on a massive sale this upcoming summer sale, but I'm still not quite sure.

>>713477612
Play 4, Zero, and 5 back to back and you will see just how much more brevity the former two games have.

>>713477335
Bro I gotchu

>>713477774
OH MY FUCKING GOD

>>713477779
You dropped your contarian shitpost anon.,

>>713477779
>Project Wingman did it better.
I bet you enjoyed H.A.W.X

>>713477704
Hol up

The pretendo switch can run AC7, but somehow the full game on PS4 cannot be fully psvr compatible?
It was bullshit of the highest degree.

Question. If I buy a 5 dollar plane can I use it in story mode?

>>713478148
Worse than AC7 but not by much. Now that I think about it HAWX AC7 and Assault Horizon are like a trinity of slop.

>>713477801
anon, you're glowing

>>713478239
No It works fine its just psvr1 is not quite usable for various reasons

>>713478239
>>713477704
There is a PC mod for VR now. It uses UE general vr mod by preydog. I would still advise just to play the superior product which is of course Project Wingman.

>>713477851
>how much more brevity Zero has
>Waldreich Mountains
I get what you're saying now. Yeah, I agree. Unstoppable radio drama is different than skippable flamenco dancer interviews.

>>713478284
No you can only use it in real life.

>>713478298
man what the fuck

>>713477779
Gonna be real anon, I think of the few memorable missions Project Wingman has, they all have a superior counterpart in an Ace Combat game that executed the concept better. I appreciate that game for what it is but it's sorely lacking in originality and I'll never get the endless glazing from contrarians.

>>713478284
That depends, which plane?

>>713478491
>different than skippable flamenco dancer interviews.
Yeah, hers is the one I skip every play-through too lel, I actually quite like the other interviews.

>>713478556
>an Ace Combat game that executed the concept better.
I agree but I don't think I am emulating PS2 games again. Although this thread made me feel like replaying zero after so long. My point is project wingman is better reboot than AC7.

>>713478556
I don't think anyone wanted any kind of crazy originality. What is original with it's setting and the general aesthetic of the game is fantastic. It's blatantly a love letter to ace combat and everyone loves it because of it. The OST is also fucking stellar. The final mission and fight against Crimson 1 is pure fucking kino and rivals AC in that regard.

>>713478546
>mfw piracy

>>713468876
I won't lie that the pre patched non shitter ending was ludo kino, and playing this in VR is pretty damn fun too.

>>713478835
You can also emulate it for free

Falken, my beloved.

>>713477626
>Heard the ai is shit and isn't even doing dogfights with you
i dunno about that, the allies actually steal my kills when i'm not paying attention unlike in ac7 where they can't do shit without trigger
the missions feeling the same also is true, only in the base game that has a gimmick is mission 8 with the civilian airliners

>>713478846
>the pre patched non shitter ending was ludo kino
what was changed? didn't play back then when it was new

>>713478571
I only have enough for 5 and not the 12's. There is like a F18 and uhh MiG 35D.

Infinity had the right idea with planes by adding in the JRPG leveling system. So why did they remove that with Ace Combat 7? You could fly a F-II Phantom up against a F-22 with this system.

>>713477335
>Why don't we put pilots in the missiles?
Japanese already did that.
https://youtu.be/aYd3r367Npw?si=NFBETU-EGE4OeTsI&t=19

>>713479861
You can fly a phantom against a raptor anyway. It's ace combat.

Have any of you niggers tried Nuclear Option? Does it have potential to be anything beyond a glorified sandbox? Have the devs mentioned anything about a plot?

>>713480272
waiting patiently for it to actually come out. early access doesn't count.

>>713479861
>ps3
The nogames machine ended having lots of cool games

>>713480272
>reddit filename
Now I have to defend Ace Combat 5.

>>713480272
Any of these but with Cipher and Mobius instead? Both being chads off course

>>713479482
every difficulty had the same thing happen while Crimson 1 went on his chuuni rant in the final phase. The UI fade away, the orange bloom, the crazy fucking weapon spam, with the only difference being that the AI in the more difficult options was better. This of course caused casuals and faggots to reeeee so the devs reworked it. More or less, everybody got to have the same experience regardless of difficulty until the update

I never played this series before, not OP.
This is the only game on Steam so...do I play this or emulate the Ps2 versions instead?

I recall the story of one of these games is crazy, but I do not know which.

>>713480664
I don't even remember where I got that one, anon. Just another image in my AC folder.

>>713480778
you shoooould emulate 5 before playing 7, they're related.

but real niggas always play release order.

>>713479861
> Meanwhile I fly a Warthog against a Raptor and win
No one stop you from doing that, anon. Now be a hero

>>713480778
All of the stories are crazy in one way or another. I would just start with 4 and go in release order from there. 3 is absolute fucking kino but it's also not for everyone. Play it later.

>>713461217
YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>713480778
Do you want to spend money or not? 7's easier to pick up, i think, but if that's not enough of a reason for you to drop some cash, just start with 4.

>>713461217
based tendietoddler

>>713480062
Get in the missile Shinji

>>713482721
kek