This is a perfect example of why "more" isn't always better.

Red Dead Redemption has worse graphics than RDR2, a smaller map, a shorter campaign, less side activities, less guns, less options in gameplay, less detail AND IT'S STILL A WAY BETTER GAME. It was better gameplay, better writing, better music, better characters, better missions, RDR1 is fucking TIGHT, and doesn't waste your time pretending to be an HBO series.

>>713463641 (OP)
You're objectively incorrect and also retarded

>left: colorful, vibrant, appealing
>right: piss filter
>"BRO RIGHT IS BETTER!"
another /v/tard

horse balls

>>713463641 (OP)
somewhere along the line rockstar decided that realism was more important than fun and now their games are chore simulators

>>713463781
Explain why. You HAVE played both games, right?

>>713463641 (OP)
These games are companions pieces. Shitting on one and praising the other is disingenuous and very shitty.

>>713463641 (OP)
RDR1 is nostalfag central.

>>713463641 (OP)
You played the first one as a teenager, and the second one as a jaded adult.

>>713466772
They weren't even made by the same people, the fuck are you on about?

>>713467152
>>713466918
I'm playing RDR1 right now. It's still good. It's still better than RDR2.

>>713466772
rdr1 is better than rdr2 becouse rdr1 feels like a kickass spaghetti western movie and rdr2 tries too hard to be realistic. the piss filter makes the game look gritty and tough and fucking awesome and the colorful filter makes it look just like boring real life

i want to be Josey Wales not just an random ass boring dying of TB redneck bum in 1899

I am RDR1fag that dislikes RDR2 as a game, but RDR2 incredibly visually stunning and manages to be one of the few games to pull off hyper-realism while still possessing beauty and appeal. Just because the first game is better doesn't inherently mean every aspect of it is.

>>713468782
*I am a
I'm not an esl don't kill me.

>>713463641 (OP)
I finished RDR2 a couple of weeks ago and even though it was an excellent cowboy simulator it didn't scratch my itch and it felt way too long. I never played 1 back when it released for whatever fucking reason and hear it's a much more condensed experience, and like most spaghetti westerns isn't afraid to be campy at times. Should I give it a go? I just want a good spaghetti western game with sharp dialogue and grit, 2 felt way too modern and safe.

>>713463641 (OP)
i just wish they gave you a proper john model at the end and they didnt lean into the no swimming meme

>>713469027
Didn't they actually use the proper John model, that was already in the fucking game, but then patched it out?

>>713463641 (OP)
I recently played RDR for the first time and enjoyed it, but I prefer RDR2. I'm one of those few people who actually enjoy the slow and quiet pace of these games, so I guess it's made specifically for people like me. Now please go ahead and explain why my subjective opinion is objectively wrong.

>>713468925
RDR1 is literally a spaghetti western with every trope in the book, it's a more arcadey gameplay style and the characters are almost cartoons, and yet it can be serious when it needs to be. It's more in line with Vice City or San Andreas than GTAIV or GTAV.

>>713469251
That's what I can gather. The character models are slightly exaggerated, both in proportions and facial features, they remind me of old school GTA concept art. I think IV still retains some of that character, it's V that decided to go full realism.

>>713466436
>Explain why
No
>You HAVE played both games, right?
Yes

>>713469473
>No
Then don't even bother posting you jackass.

>>713469527
>Then don't even bother posting you jackass
I appreciate the advice but I will continue posting

>>713469139
who knows.... at least i can customize the character with all the cosmetics! that wouldn't take more than 2 seconds to adjust to the john model

>>713463641 (OP)
RDR1
>start mission
>ride alongside side character listening to embarassing dialogue
>reach destination a mile away
>kill a dozen men
>"ride back yourself - bye"
RDR2
>slowly wade through camp like the ground is made of treacle
>ride alongside side character listening to the hackiest dialogue ever written
>reach destination 15 miles away
>help load 30 apples into the cider press one by one really slowly
>hold a button to churn the apples
>"damnit arthur, we don't want chunky cider"
>help dig a hole to plant the azaleas
>go to the post office to mail a letter for dutch
>ride back halfway. your companion is still talking passionately about the american dream and the pitfalls of a class based society
>"oh no arthur, it's the bingbingwahoo boys. they must've followed us"
>kill 40 men without consequence
>"phew, that'll teach em"
>arrive back at camp
>"thanks arthur. I think dutch needs your help with his translation of beowulf. go see him in his tent"

>>713463641 (OP)
rdr is a better game
rdr2 is a better movie

>>713469139
No. It's just in the files but was never used.

>>713463641 (OP)
Couldnt finish rdr1, every single mission was just a shooting gallery. Very dull

>>713472912
It's a cowboy game...

The fuck else would you be doing?

>>713472018
2 doesn't respect your time at all. I struggle to think how any nigga can even replay it when half the damn game is chore work or listening to npcs spout exposition while you're stuck following them

>>713463641 (OP)
I tried replaying RDR1 after playing it as a teenager back in the day but I quit shortly after the first 2 or 3 missions, it's just too fucking boring and I already know how the story goes, I heard RDR2 quadrupled down on the tedium. Honest question, does it (RDR1) get better? What was it that made you go "wow I'm glad I'm playing this game it's great"?

I think there's definitely a case to be made for games that are shorter and smaller in scale so you don't have to commit 70hrs to completing it again. That's why I think out of the Arkham games, Asylum is like comfort food.

>>713463641 (OP)
Why does John's playable model look so weird in RDR2 i can't explain it

>>713473338
Becasue it's a modified Arthur model.

>>713473338
>>713473462
Yep, and Rockstar being Rockstar they don't listen to anybody, so they never felt the need to change it.

>>713469473
Based.

>>713473096
Sucking cock.

RDR2 is a terrible game

>>713473148
>What was it that made you go "wow I'm glad I'm playing this game it's great"?
I like westerns. I like the physics engine that makes people fall all over the place, especially after getting shot. I like the shooting system, you abuse the lock on and all the horses run at 90mph so it's easy but hectic. I like the execution cinematics and it's a nice risk vs reward of running in close for an instant kill vs losing life and maybe dying trying to do it. I like the writing and the characters are larger than life, they never go on too long and always say something darkly funny or fucked up. I like the music, even the ambient stuff. I like how it's an open world but really it's a series of large rectangles and it's quality > quantity in terms of settlements and points of interest but still gives that expansive open feeling you get watching westerns.

>>713463641 (OP)
>It was better gameplay, better writing, better music, better characters, better missions
I don' think RDR2 makes 1 redundant but come on, who are you kidding here bro. Especially better characters, 1 barely had proper characters, it was at least 50% complete charictatures with no depth, one of them being a character who was lifted 1:1 from The Outlaw Josey Wales

>>713473148
I only really started liking it when you get to Mexico.

>>713474435
>it was at least 50% complete charictatures with no depth, one of them being a character who was lifted 1:1 from The Outlaw Josey Wales
Yeah, that's why they're so good.

>>713463641 (OP)
that arthur mothefucker ruined rdr2 really quick for me
one of the worst characters in vidya

>>713474872
>shittier is better

>>713475172
LENNNEHHHH

>>713475337
It's a cowboy game, I don't want HBO drama, I want The Good, The Bad and the Ugly.

>>713472018
>checklist zoomie can't enjoy the simpler things

>>713475172
the voice actor may have gone too far in a few places

Why can't people on 4chan just admit two things are good?

Why does it always have to be
>THING 1 SUCKS, THING 2 IS SO MUCH BETTER
>THING 1 HAS LITERALLY NO VALUE BECAUSE THING 2 EXISTS!
>LOL THING 1 FANS BTFO
After 20 years of being on this shitty website, it just looks like psychotic chickenscratch.
What happened to your generation?

>>713475979
Why are you so castrated and whipped that the mere whisper of negativity sends you into an emotional meltdown? I'm allowed to shit on things I didn't like, obsessing over positivity and liking things is just as mentally ill as hating everything.

>>713476232
>the mere whisper of inactivity
Are you going to pretend this binary shit isn't done with every fucking thing on this website? Music, TV, movies, games, political opinions, fucking cartoon artists for god's sake.
Why do you feel so specifically called out by this?

>>713474435
Arthur is a criminal cowboy with current year mentality. He IS a caricature. The antagonize options were a joke. I mean, Mass Effect was cursed as a series but at least Renegade Shepard was badass. Even RDR2's villain felt like a Disney character.

>>713467152
NTA but I played the PC remaster 6 months ago and it still holds up. I couldn't finish RDR2 after getting so burned out on it. But RDR1 was but better paced, and even the obvious time waster stuff respects your time more.
RDR2 is a great cowboy sim, but as an action game I would put RDR1 above.

>>713475505
Deadwood is the greatest show in tv history.

>>713476716
Based and truepilled

>>713475505
>i want shit

>>713476803
Those who doubt me suck cock by choice.

>>713463862
>what is art direction

>>713476883
Thanks for confirming you hate RDR for dumb reasons.

>>713463641 (OP)
They dumbed down the dialogue and script so hard in comparison to RDR1

>>713463641 (OP)
there is no game on earth that matches the peak that is Red Dead Redemption 2.

except maybe gta 6 next year....

>>713477587
The dialogue and script in RDR2 is 100x better than in RDR1.
Get some taste zoomer.

>>713463862
nothing says red dead redemption like a colorful, vibrant, appealing enviroment.

>>713474015
>Nintenbro

>>713463641 (OP)
>Red Dead Redemption has worse graphics than RDR2
RDR2 has extremely blurry nu-graphics. 1 is crisp and clean.

>>713478130
see
>>713477803

>>713472018
Honestly accurate on all accounts

>>713463641 (OP)
movieslop

>>713477983
>color is bad now
classic switcheroo

>>713466772
Red Dead Online being another attempt at GTAO is more than enough to completely dismiss 2 as anything but more of modern R* fuckery, the shitty singleplayer story and gameplay is just diarhea icing on a turd cake.