Its better than Elden Ring

If Limveld had more randomization than simply shifting earth I might agree. There's no sense of adventure so it scratches a completely different itch, but I like the whole playable cast both as characters and for their unique gameplay mechanics. DaS4 better have Wylder grapple.

I like it.

>>713485038
did he died?

>>713485115
Yes.

>>713484527 (OP)
you people will say anything

>>713484527 (OP)
I desperately want someone to mod Wylder's grappling hook and greatsword moveset into Elden Ring.

I like Recluse. She's fun.

>>713484527 (OP)
that's a very low bar
but it does clear it, if only barely

Why does no one ever do the shifting earth events? Why does no one even go after the invasion events? I getting sick of this shit.

>>713485425
youre meant to play with friends in vc

>>713485425
Invasions are hell if you don't have solid party comp. Shifting Earth? It's more reliable to do castle but Day 2 afternoon I always hit shifting and see what's good.

Surprise surprise /v/ likes a game where roll+r1 is king and shields, deflect and parry have taken a backseat compared to SOTE.

>>713485038
what the fuck is all that ui?

>>713485530
Gay.

>>713485538
Not when you have the rot swamp, since the day two boss will always spawn there.

>>713485836
>since the day two boss will always spawn there.
Yeah and clearing the castle from top to bottom is better pay and more efficient. Forest boss rush is fun but oftentimes it's just cancerous shit like Deathbird and Gargoyle.

>>713485656
>shields, deflect and parry
These are slow and methodical. You don't have time for that. You have to go full throttle crackhead mode for Nightreign.

>>713485945
If you don't clear the swamp, then you'll have to deal with constant rot. Plus, fuck those fire bomb giants. I'm trying to get my spoils, but they won't let me.

>>713486068
You don't need to clear the swamp to deal with constant rot. Grabbing the map and the blessing can be done while running to the final circle.

>>713485425
Shifting Earths are just kinda annoying
>Mountain has so much dead space for generally shit rewards (unless you're fighting Caligo)
>Volcano is really slow to do with even more dead space for one or two good rewards
>Rot wood is kind of mandatory since otherwise the rot damage just makes that whole area and the night boss insufferable but that just makes it not feel like a rewarding event at all
>Noklateo is unintuitive ass to navigate and people would probably ignore it if not for it removing the castle
As for the invasion events, I dunno, they feel like early game rewards for a mid game camp. Seen too many people try to take them at level 3 or lower just get rolled and lose time for nothing.

>>713486068
No you can rush the fort for the clue and grab the blessing as the circle starts to close if you really want. Don't get me wrong, I like Shifting Earth. All of them. It's just that unless I think we're absolute fucking CHADS I'd rather clear the castle.

>>713486140
Exactly. Or even get lucky and just spot it on the way in.

>>713486162
>Noklateo is unintuitive ass to navigate
But that's why I buy from soft games in the first place!?

Does rot wood blessing stack with the bloodborne regen relic effect?

>>713485724
its basic information for a multiplayer game

>>713486301
Yeah if you're not on a time constraint, but trying to efficiently get through that place with two usually retarded people in tow isn't fun

>people dying for the first time about two minutes into the game and immediately disconnecting
This shit pisses me off to no end. Dying means nothing but 30 seconds lost. You get all your souls back if you go to the spot. Can't stand these goons.

Fun game, though. I wish people knew how to make macro decisions better. Routing is not a skill the average player seems to have. I've had runs with competent teammates who know how to make a route and stick together and we can hit level 10 on the first day.

I've got four friends who play this but all at different times. I can't wait for that duos patch because having a third random player is seriously rough.

Why are these threads so dead on /v/?
>Daily ER threads for fucking years, be it praise, seething, or bait. Even now there's always some ER shit up on the catalog
>Game comes out and despite all the red flags is surprisingly fun as fuck
>No threads on /v/ or /v/ group queueing
Are you all non-autists who stopped after Heolster? Where did all the autistic posters go? Why so many normalfags?

>>713487102
/v/ is nothing but ironic shitskinned shitposters. You can't really sustain a thrad here without them coming in to whine about fortnite or GaaS or whatever. There's /erg/ but then you get legions of trannies ERPing so.. you can't win.

>>713487102
everyones already done with it. we need more skins and unlockables

>>713487070
i wonder how they're gonna balance duos

>>713487102
nobody is actually playing and it's just lazy ragebaiting now

>>713487354
I feel like the bosses are already fine for duos, just like they are alone. You just need to lower enemy damage and health by 30% and that's about it.

>>713487102
I'm still playing a match or two a day working through the remembrances of the half the cast I didn't play while I was going for boss completion but there's not much happening to talk about and grouping with /v/ in any game is just asking for some schizo to post about you in every thread for years over some perceived slight.

>>713487449
but as soon as your buddy goes down theres not a third guy to take the aggro, while in solo you get an 1 extra life AT LEAST
it'd be way harder to revive peeps

>>713487102
There's not enough content.

>>713487070
>people dying for the first time about two minutes into the game and immediately disconnecting
I typically play with one friend and one rando, and without failure the rando will always bugger off to some field boss without us and die then immediately disconnect.

this game looks so bizarre to me, I've watched a decent amount of it trying to decide whether or not to try it
>run consists of brainlessly slogging through things you've fought before
>then you get to fight an actual good multiplayer boss, 1 of them just looks fucking awful still I can't remember any of their names bc they are all just [insert rpg name here] guardian of night

some of the combat shit they added is stuff that should have been in like dark souls fucking 3 but still wasn't even in ER. Many mixed emotions

>>713487102
When I decide to play the game it forces me to play an hour straight, so I can't take breaks to check /v/ at my leisure

>>713487910
you actually have adhd

>>713486068
>Plus, fuck those fire bomb giants.
There's a "safer" order to fight them in, but if your team doesn't pay attention they just wipe.
>Kite Bridge Troll to main room entryway.
>Cross bridge, climb wall to get to Gallows Troll, kite Gallows Troll to corner furthest from the gallows.
>Back up wall, across bridge, kite The Other Troll to main room entryway.
>Jump down to Lowest Troll free and clear.
Alternatively you can have a solid Raider or Wylder go after one Troll by themselves while the other two take on the next nearest Troll, which prevents any of them from tossing jars.

>>713487859
It's crack for me as a Roguelite enjoyer with over 5k hours in the Soulsborne series. I love how much it rewards my extensive knowledge of enemioes and equipment within Elden Ring.

>>713487910
An hour? Each day is only 14min, and the two Night Bosses should only take 2-3min at most.
I can see the Night Lord taking a little longer, but an hour is heaps. We're usually clear in 40-45min tops.
>>713488075
>you actually have adhd
My friend with ADHD is actually the best at this game cause it perfectly aligns with his attention span.

>>713487354
They don't need to.

>>713484527 (OP)
In some ways yeah, but it's held back by the concept of "pve battle royal boss rush" being kind of weak, also the lack of content and poor end game.
That said there are a ton of things that I wish base ER had that NR fixes. Better mobility options for traversing the map to actually justify the open world, fixes for certain playstyles (archery being by far the biggest winner), characters that I care slightly more about.
That said removing the Golden Retaliation synergy with disc of light is fucking criminal.

>>713485425
>Why does no one ever do the shifting earth events?
Sounds like you're getting shit groups, but tbf that's also on you for not forcing the issue with an immediate ping. They won't follow you if you don't act like you know what you're doing.
>Why does no one even go after the invasion events?
Because the reward sucks.

>>713487354
There's already duo scaling. You just technically can't queue with only one other person

>>713489368
>In some ways yeah, but it's held back by the concept of "pve battle royal boss rush" being kind of weak, also the lack of content and poor end game.
>That said there are a ton of things that I wish base ER had that NR fixes. Better mobility options for traversing the map to actually justify the open world, fixes for certain playstyles (archery being by far the biggest winner), characters that I care slightly more about.
>That said removing the Golden Retaliation synergy with disc of light is fucking criminal.
Honestly the Tarnished Edition™ Version should add some QoL changes to ER

Anyone else play on Xbone?

>>713486162
>Mountain has so much dead space for generally shit rewards (unless you're fighting Caligo)
It has some really easy bosses, rewards are pretty shit though yeah.
>Volcano is really slow to do with even more dead space for one or two good rewards
Volcano is sick as hell, easy to rush, and gives the best big reward of the bunch.
>Rot wood is kind of mandatory since otherwise the rot damage just makes that whole area and the night boss insufferable but that just makes it not feel like a rewarding event at all
You rush Rot wood and boss rush through it, probably the most efficient shifting earth by a decent margin.
>Noklateo is unintuitive ass to navigate and people would probably ignore it if not for it removing the castle
Just go left, right, jump up, and it's practically a straight shot from there. Absolutely worthwhile.

>>713487102
Post-game is pretty piss poor and the general has a dedicated group password so there's little need for grouping up here.
Lore-wise there's surprisingly little to discuss, most item description autism is gone and most of the stories are either just nice little character pieces or typical Souls nihilistic bullshit (I sacrificed myself for my sister but also lost myself and probably didn't actually save her but I don't care LET'S GO).

>>713485263
I really like the flow of combat with her. gives having multiple spells a purpose to pull the formulas you want.

>>713484527 (OP)
I really liked ER but like most from soft games the appeal lay in the world not the boss fights so I don't think this game would appeal to me. Oh and it's multiplayer slop lmao

>>713484527 (OP)
I'm glad i'm not a beta tester like you fags. i'll et it later on after several patches when it becomes an actual decent game, and won't suffer the burn out you guys will have hahaha

it's elden ring without the good parts

>>713485425
Because its badly designed, it should just be one map with everything.

i beat super jaw 1 whole time with randoms out of 12 tries

i can beat him very easily solo

when's super centaur again?

>>713490302
itz the buge nex

>>713490258
>You just always go Volcano
That's dumb.

>>713487102
The vg thread is super active with a password queue.

>>713490258
Don't be dumb, you'd hit the 4 gacha rolls + astel in Nokleo then the dragon soldier on the way out then grab rot forest bonus from it's predetermined spawning spot and farm bosses there until day 2 ends.

>>713485425
Invaders are fine if you just hang out at the edge and just gank the invader. It "should" be quick runes and a free purple weapon. For some reason, everyone thinks you need to rush in and aggro literally everything instead. For that reason no one wants to do them.

>>713490240
the good parts are...

>>713491517
imo the purple weapon isn't worth it since the drops are limited and one slot is always being taken up by a bad starter weapon. I'd rather just take the time to hit mines and grab a smith stone 2.

>>713484527 (OP)
It can be but it's heavily leans on having decent coordination or playing with friends. Also not a fun learning experience when the 3rd night boss has a 40 minute runback so eat shit if you play solo only.

>>713484527 (OP)
>Elden Ring for retards who can't allocate stats
no thanks, those bosses would be cool at the end of DLC areas though

QUIT SPAM PINGING THE DEVIL! IF YOU PING TILL I GO THERE I'M GOING TO ATTACK HIM BECAUSE FUCK YOU!

>>713491608
everything except nu-from bosses

>>713492070
Sorry for wanting bosses you can parry, deflect and guard counter instead of the roll+r1 lazy design of the souls series.

>>713490346
Boy I can't wait to play with all the ironeyes who will somehow die 2v1 to the moth while I'm keeping the scorpion busy

it still has the problem of having dogshit bosses that never stop attacking
when did this shit become the standard?

The series peaked with DS1, ever since its been downhill one after another. They keep forgetting what made souls fun and it wasnt the boss rushing 15 minute combos with "is it my turn to attack yet" variables. The games have gotten worse in a lot of ways and this game is everything wrong with the modern design in one single game.

just beat Hard Mode Gaping Jaw, he goes down hard if you can get into the Mountain shifting earth and take down the smaller Dragon. Gaping Jaw is also a dragon, so you get the Anti-Dragon power from killing the smaller mountain dragon and you're good to go damage wise. I got lucky with a Dragon Communion that came with Dragonfire and Dragon Laser beam attack.
our Raider also had the Blood Eye Hunter's weapon and was dealing like 9k damage by the end so that helped

>>713484527 (OP)
...if you're a zoomer

Man I enjoy this game but holy fucking shit if this game isn't plagued with some of the literal worst design choices I have ever seen in any game, period.

>Fell Omen events appearing out of literally nowhere and third-partying your party while you're fighting something else like its fucking Fortnite
>Events appearing in general when you're running from the circle and you don't have time to deal with it (this also curses your run permanently btw)
>Ally Revive mechanic is extremely tacked-on and nonsensical, attacks on allies miss left and right, especially if you're casting
>No means of efficiently restarting a run if your run is cursed/terrible items left and right
>Alt-F4ing matchmaking-penalizes you even if everyone wants to Alt-F4
>Awful crit passives flooding the major night-boss pools
>Teamwiping to a random-encounter boss permanently fucks the rest of your run with a bullshit curse making you immediately want to quit
>Levels 13, 14 and 15 are essentially worthless levels to have with barely any stat improvements
>Revive item bugs out 50% of the time, where it will kick out your party members even if you're about to revive 1 second later, turning it into a 1v1 against a final boss scaled for 3 people
>The fucking pot-throwing Giants in the castle

I can't believe how much shit is in this game that feels intentionally rage-inducing and underhanded by the developers' part. It would take so little to fix a fuck ton of these problems. I don't know a single other developer that is so intentionally antiquated in their designs and decision-making when it comes to making this shit.

>>713485425
I only know how to do forest and the city

>>713489368
NR is a great experiment for existing Souls mechanics, like you've already mentioned.
I kind of want NR to be the launching point for a bigger Souls game which is less focused on the boss rush aspects. The new traversal (speed and wall climb) will allow for more vertical level design (also bring back Sekiro grapple please). The pre-set characters and simplified weapon scaling gives great variety but also allows the developer to craft the encounters around specific abilities, rather than what seems to be happening with ER now (bloated health bars and crazy anime attacks).
I guess a bigger Sekiro with more Player Character options. I could even see a kind of tag-team mechanic whereby you can hotswap to one or two extra characters if an encounter doesn't suit your current choice.

>>713494613
>Fell Omen events appearing out of literally nowhere
havent seen this after the patch
i wish they appeared more because its boring as fuck doing the same shit per run

>>713485425
I always do shifting earth events for free levels and equipment. No reason to skip it, especially if you can clear castle on day 1.

>>713492952
If you want the boss to wait on you, turn based games still exist.

>>713494775
I've seen Fell Omen four times post-patch, and aside from one instance, pre-patch included, they've all been while the circle was shrinking. I like the events to shake things up and the theoretical risk:reward is usually great, but when they consistently happen near a closing ring (extremely gay with Augur in particular, who may warp you off into the rain far from whatever objective you were going for) it feels like shit

>>713494775
I had 3 games in a row where Fell Omen targetted my friend all 3 times.

Augur event is rare as hell though.

>>713495143
I haven't had that "Augur in the rain" thing happen yet but that sounds like the worst possible raid to get. Do the bubbles go away at some point or do they just continue to harass you for the entire day until you get sucked into one?

>>713495228
>Augur event is rare as hell though
you say that but I've seen it like 6 times total, it is the number one event I've gotten personally. Goatjew twice and Fell Omen twice. Haven't gotten anyone else yet.

>>713489456
invasion rewards can be really good though. its a guaranteed +2 weapon for everyone on the team. .

>>713495310
they'll dissipate after a while, but he's not too bad to take down unless all three of you are melee

>>713495315
It seems fairly random. We've had Fell Omen twice, Augur once, no Goat at all, over like 30-40 runs.
I think we've had more double night bosses over all.

>>713495415
>invasion rewards can be really good
We've found the Night Invaders to be weirdly difficult to beat. Does anyone know how/if they scale? Like if you get them a Level 3 are they equivalent, or are they set at like Level 8 or something?

>>713485425
They are bad at the game. the noob strat is to spam those beginner POI because you get enough levels to fight the night lords. only downside is you wont get legendaries.

>>713495523
They don't scale, but despite their high stats they're pretty easy to stunlock. Just make sure you go in with ults charged and you don't aggro anything except the invader(s).

>>713495523
you can do at lvl 3 but you die in 1-2 hits so you gotta be careful. better would be to do at level 5-6

>>713495143
>all 3 of us flying on spirit birds towards objective while night closing in
>guy in last somehow gets succed by augur mid-flight
>gets warped even further behind us
bye dude

Anyone else feels like world seeds aren't refreshing fast enough? I literally get 2 or 3 rounds with the same map back to map

>>713496365
>aren't refreshing fast enough
Might be a recent thing. I recall before the recent update that we got a lot of different seeds+shifting events. The last few nights we've got very similar seeds and pretty much no shifting events (but more Night Invader events, like we got three in a row last night).

>>713496365
no joke i switched my loadout to one with FP bonus for towers to see how it feels and i was getting the same seed with like 1 tower on the other side of the map every time.

>>713496802
>to see how it feels
Feels good, even on Recluse.
18% is nuts.

>>713485724
Standard information? I dunno what's confusing about it.

>>713485538
>It's more reliable to do castle but Day 2
this nigga doesn't do castle at day 1 lol git gud scrub

>>713484527 (OP)
its too small and not random enough for any real longevity. once they run through the phase 3 bosses its gonna have a steep drop off

>>713484527 (OP)
What's the /v/erdict on playing with randoms? I've watched a couple gameplay vids, looks fun but I have no one to play this with

>>713498359
There's not much to do after you beat all the bosses and do the remembrances, really. Outside of relics, you got have nothing to work towards to.

>>713498359
>>713498478
More Longevity than base ER imo
Especially if you enjoy jolly cooperation

>>713485538
You should at least be doing the trolls/crucibles/banished in the latter half of day 1. If you're still chasing camps and churches, you've fucked up.
Even if slow, it's good runes that set you up for an easy day 2 boss clear/shifting route. Route the last churches in this because you'll have tons of time left over.

>>713498587
ER is a singleplayer game with a lot more focus on exploring and multiple playthroughs. Comparing longevity is dumb.

Is this still the same rollslop gameplay where you wait for the boss to stop attacking so its finally your turn?

>>713498636
Yes obviously. I'm talkiing about the roof and sometimes basement ya dink.

>>713498587
maybe in a vacuum but we've all already played elden ring. none of these enemies are new except the nightlords and they didnt put any dlc enemies in which is bizarre. also limgrave got old in like 5 runs

>>713498435
It's hit and miss. I've had some good runs, and some bad ones. FWIW I think give it a go if you can afford it. There's more good than bad when it comes to randoms. A lot of the time you might be queuing with 2 friends who are chasing a 3rd player, which really improves your chances of having a good run.
Starting Advice: If there's a Player tagging locations on the map, just do what they're suggesting. Don't run off by yourself for any reason and try to keep up. Randoms are less likely to come back and help you if you go off-script.

>>713498636
>Route the last churches in this
I kinda want a little longer to assess the map pre-game time. Not a lot, but it would be nice to have 45-60 seconds while loading in to set a route with multiple points, like an A/B/C, for better planning.

>>713498930
>A lot of the time you might be queuing with 2 friends who are chasing a 3rd player, which really improves your chances of having a good run.
That's completely wrong. Duos are cancer who treat you like an afterthought and often have absorbed insanely bad habits/practices. Duos are genuine cancer.

>>713498435
It's great with randos other than when you find Duos because they're nearly universally rude, selfish and treat you like a nuisance.

>join game for extra black adel
>other two players already picked bird

>also pick bird

>>713499083
bird up

>>713499054
Me and my friend go duo and if the other dude aint marking shit, we will do it instead.

>>713499030
You can plan the first steps leading to the castle day 1 on the eagle ride in. Then just chase whatever is convenient during second shrink.
You have a good bit of time to plan something after the first night boss. You don't HAVE to rush off into the rain trying to be quick. A better plan is worth that time.
Just remember where day 2 ends during the shifting earth events and pay attention to the tree paths if something you want is a mile and a half away.

This game surprisingly works with randoms despite everybody saying otherwise, if they're half decent at soulsgames the ping/icon system is all you need for communications. I still haven't come across trolls or anything like that.

>>713484527 (OP)
I'm surprised the game isn't dead yet

>>713499395
I unironically think it's an EU/US divide in experience.

>>713484527 (OP)
The gameplay is still just IPFRAME ROLL LMAO but at least it skips the tedium of the big gay empty open world horsing around to collect mushrooms you thought were gonna be good loot. It skips that and gives you multiplayer focus which is what most normies enjoy the most regardless of how much it makes LE HARDCORE fromdrones of /v/ seethe. In that regard, yes, it's way better. It just let's you jump right in and the fact that you can pick from CHARACTERS and not just your own build-a-bear abomination jack of all trades "build" with 50 in everything is better, you feel like you're playing a proper class and you're not just arbitrarily pumping some numbers everywhere.

>>713499303
>Me and my friend go duo and if the other dude aint marking shit, we will do it instead.
Yes anon, I'm well aware you think the average "matched with a duo" experience is like being with you and your friend. Most of them are complete fucking dirtbags and tbqh I don't fully believe you aren't, just that you think you aren't. Duos usually actively resent the third players for even existing.

Unironically Duos are more likely to
>Not share loot
>Be generally low skill overall because the odds of two "friends" both actually being good at Elden Ring are low, especially compared to random solo queuers
>Have terrible routing ideas they will NEVER compromise on with the third wheel
>Not even know boss mechanics because they've been carried through previous wins, creating unearned confidence

>>713499361
>You can plan the first steps leading to the castle day 1 on the eagle ride in
I should add, far too many people just ping the nerest thing to landing (which should be obvious to anybody) or the nearest church (same deal).
Those people don't have any grander route in mind and will only ping the next nearest thing each time.

>>713499054
>That's completely wrong. Duos are cancer
Not in my experience. My mate and I que up looking for a third all the time. We find more often than not that the third is some try-hard wannabe who rushed hard field bosses on day 1 and rage quits when they die half a map away from us.

>>713499706
>My mate and I que up looking for a third all the time
Yes, you probably had a horrible route plan and so he went to solo, failed because he wasn't good enough to solo and got tilted because you and your friend aren't treating him as an equal.

I hate battle royal mechanics and dont feel weapons moveset
Yes ER nightregin filter me because im too slow

>>713499749
>he went to solo, failed because he wasn't good enough
>aren't treating him as an equal
Those two statements are incongruous.
You just sound like a shitty team player who is unable to adapt.

>>713499524
>follow the duo around
>they think they're great as they ping every new stop
>all I can think about is "why here? Why this way? The other way has more/better stuff"
>oh now they're backtracking to the nearest gaol so we can backtrack AGAIN once it's done
>we could've just gone this way cleared something and hit the gaol after
>there's also a church and a rise there
>oh, we're doing that after, so we've backtracked for nothing, twice.
>maybe they have the gaol buff
>oh, they're skiping the gaol
>How do people get this retarded?
>fuck this, I'm going to the Rise nearby, they'll be fine it's only a Demi-Queen
>ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping
>x has fallen
>y has fallen
>ffs

>>713499395
its pretty weird when you end up being the pathfinder for the group and they just never ping anything they want

>>713499880
Eh, some of us don't care.
I treat it like jolly co-op. I'm here to help you guys do what you want. I'll make do with whatever, it's not important.
If I'm struggling for a good spell, I might fuck off to hunt something but not often because so many are fantastic

>>713499842
>Those two statements are incongruous.
No, he signed up to co-op and you and your friend treated him as a prop. The fight he failed on likely would've gone smooth as butter if you guys had backed him up. I will always side with the third wheel, I've only met like 2 good Duos ever and I play this game way way way too much.


>>713499853
>fuck this, I'm going to the Rise nearby, they'll be fine it's only a Demi-Queen
Every single time. Thank you, this is how it feels to be with the average duo. Had the same thing today. It's always wild when the duo can't even handle a camp lol

>Want a staff because we just dropped and I'm Duchess
>They pinged some gay camp way too far away
>I ping the fort and quickly go solo it
>I'm soloing the fort, backstab chaining the Lordsworn
>Wylder and Recluse keep dying to whatever the fuck was at the camp they pinged

>>713499524
>>713499853
This seems like a dreadful experience, my advice is for you to acquire more friends, preferably who are skilled at video games.
>t. friend haver whose friends are sometimes dogshit bad at the game
It’s real nice being able to communicate, but teamwork only gets you so far when these retards just won’t lock in. Might have to queue with randoms to finally beat the super jaw desu

>>713500172
You might think I give a shit becaus >greentext
but no, this is me too>>713499996
I just find it hilarious and only a little depressing.

>>713500172
>my advice is for you to acquire more friends, preferably who are skilled at video games.
Not easily done and I still simply prefer to solo. It's fun to play with randos.
>It’s real nice being able to communicate
No, it's a worthless crutch you're overvaluing. We don't need to communicate at all if we're any GOOD at the game. Just grab loot, attack the boss, dodge the attacks.

I play only randos and have had winstreaks as high as 10 rounds. Because I'm good and I'm a deciding factor in rounds I'm in and thus win more.

>>713499880
Desu if someone wants to be the team captain I just follow them, I don't care. I'll play team captain if nobody else steps up but I'm more than happy to just chill out and follow the leader.

>>713500267
>they're struggling to kill anything
>I show up again with a Meteroite Staff
>shit now gets chunked
>they don't spam ping when I fuck off, they just follow
Always feels good when they realise.

>>713500483
Ahaha yeah the "daddy's here" vibe of crashing into a boss and CHUNKIN' it is always satisfying. Especially when it makes them fall in line. Happens in random parties too sometimes

>everybody is a bit chaotic
>we're losing time and not synergizing
>eventually somebody stands out as being "best" at the game with big damage or a clutch series of revives
>they lead us to greatness
Sometimes it's been me, othertimes it's somebody else. Always nice to see though.

>>713498647
>Elden Ring
>Multiple Playthroughs
Not with the DLC lmao

im glad they've streamlined certain thinga like leveling and weight, nobody liked to fat roll and the characters are stand ins for builds

>raider ults
>it puts the horse knight boss inside the pillar
they need to fix this shit

>>713500659
Yeah, I only do randoms too and mostly Recluse.
So it's just turning headstrong idiots into real simps.
You can feel the difference between mindless charge and protect the waifu at all costs.
Win rate could be better but something like 48% isn't terrible.
I need to find better spells for Libra's bullshit and it comes up way too often because I only queue all.

>>713500102
>The fight he failed on likely would've gone smooth as butter if you guys had backed him up
You sound like a fucking moron, dude. Enjoy playing the multiplayer game by yourself.
>I'm Duchess
Oh. Nuff said. It all makes sense now.

>>713500878
>5-6 waves of Rancorcall/Ancient Death Rancor just hit rock
t-thanks

>>713484527 (OP)
I can't play dress up though.

Elden Ring should have had predetermined protagonist/s and done away with the garbage 99 stat jRPG shit that only fucks up the balancing.

>>713500897
>You sound like a fucking moron, dude. Enjoy playing the multiplayer game by yourself.
You're the one treating a third of your team as a lesser. If he was in VC with you, would you have left him out to dry?
>Oh. Nuff said. It all makes sense now.
Yeah god forbid I play somebody who's S tier and has the strongest ability in the game that also happens to massively synergize with every other class. What a fucking SHOCK that the duonigger doesn't realize Duchess is an objective S tier character who is UNIVERSALLY a potent addition to any party comp. Imagine not understanding that she's got Recluse level casting stats while also having great dex AND comes with infinite i-frames and the single strongest character skill in the whole game.

You probably don't even understand restage or that she has Bayonetta's dodge offset mechanic.

>>713484527 (OP)
The spinoff that buried Monster Hunter

>>713494613
>>Fell Omen events appearing out of literally nowhere and third-partying your party while you're fighting something else like its fucking Fortnite
nothing wrong with this
>>Events appearing in general when you're running from the circle and you don't have time to deal with it (this also curses your run permanently btw)
this is bad, I agree
>>Ally Revive mechanic is extremely tacked-on and nonsensical, attacks on allies miss left and right, especially if you're casting
how can it be tacked-on when it fits seamlessly with the rest of the gameplay?
>>No means of efficiently restarting a run if your run is cursed/terrible items left and right
true
>>Alt-F4ing matchmaking-penalizes you even if everyone wants to Alt-F4
true
>>Awful crit passives flooding the major night-boss pools
rewards could be better, but the game is easy enough as it is
>>Teamwiping to a random-encounter boss permanently fucks the rest of your run with a bullshit curse making you immediately want to quit
haven't experienced this, so I can't complain
>>Levels 13, 14 and 15 are essentially worthless levels to have with barely any stat improvements
The difference between 12 and 15 is still pretty significant
>>Revive item bugs out 50% of the time, where it will kick out your party members even if you're about to revive 1 second later, turning it into a 1v1 against a final boss scaled for 3 people
haven't experienced this
>>The fucking pot-throwing Giants in the castle
those are fucking great

>le playing with randoms
Just go to /erg/ lmao

>>713501298
i'm not going to the erotic roleplay general niggy

>>713499853
this is true, but its also true that just following the retarded duo gives you a better chance of winning than letting them waste time dying and losing levels while youre off alone

>>713501452
It's tiresome playing along with retards like that. I'd rather throw and grief than waste 45 minutes with retards [I'd disconnect but I don't want a soft/temp ban]

are raids tied to different nightlords?
I've been grinding enhanced adel and I've come across like 5 Margit raids, but and none of the other ones.

>>713501519
Yeah, no. You're a fag as bad as they are.
Actually, I'd argue worse.
And I'm the greentexting Recluse fag.
You're not in it to help anybody for anything, you're there to jerk yourself off.
The only time it's acceptable to give up is a double 3bar res on a Nightlord.

>>713501712
People have noticed trends and inclinations but it doesn't seem locked. For example Gnoster often raids during Libra.
>You're not in it to help anybody for anything, you're there to jerk yourself off.
Nope. I'm here to have fun. When that option is revoked, I have to change tactics to continue to enjoy my time with the game.
>The only time it's acceptable to give up is a double 3bar res on a Nightlord.
Throwing isn't giving up. It's actively trying to cause a defeat.

>>713500878
>raider ults on boss
>boss gets stuck in pillar
>it's bell bearing cunter so we all have to back like 50 feet off of it and wait for it to end because he can for sure still hit us

>>713501519
>that webm
arent you the faggot who posted the greentext about intentionally greifing people while getting high for the fun of it?
and then didnt the one guy carry you to the boss, and then throw at the last minute to spite you?
fuck off man, you suck

>>713501712
People have noticed trends and inclinations but it doesn't seem locked. For example Gnoster often raids during Libra.


>>713501726
>You're not in it to help anybody for anything, you're there to jerk yourself off.
Nope. I'm here to have fun. When that option is revoked, I have to change tactics to continue to enjoy my time with the game.
>The only time it's acceptable to give up is a double 3bar res on a Nightlord.
Throwing isn't giving up. It's actively trying to cause a defeat.

I'm not saying I'm a hero when I throw btw [though it could be argued that scariung shitbirds away makes the community healthier]. I know I'm choosing to be worse. It's just too fun and satisfying.

>>713484527 (OP)
Definitely no,
but it turned out to be a lot better than most people expected (myself included)

>>713501806
>play like an asshole
>get matched with other assholes and shitters
like pottery

>>713501806
>Throwing isn't giving up. It's actively trying to cause a defeat.
Which is why you're worse than the retards. Shitters gonna shit. You have no such excuse.
>wah, my fun was REVOKED
Self absorbed twat.

>>713501897
>Nope. I'm here to have fun.
so your way of having fun is by being a dick? no wonder you dont have any friends to play with

>>713501840
>arent you the faggot who posted the greentext about intentionally greifing people while getting high for the fun of it?
Not for the fun of it. Because they deserved it by mistreating me.

>>713501925
I play like a hero unless you do something absurdly selfish or retarded. I'll pick something from a boss reward just to give it to you. I'll die in the rain to revive you. I'll buy you starlight shards before the Nightlord. I run "party wide flask" and "items confer effects to allies"
>Hogging Greatshields/Staffs/Seals when somebody is playing a class focused on those and you aren't
Auto-throw
>Absolute dogshit routing and no inclination to ever compromise at all ever
I throw
Pretty simple.

>>713501986
>so your way of having fun is by being a dick?
I don't really have other choices. My ability to have fun is revoked the moment somebody starts acting like a discourteous shitbird. I reclaim it by changing my goals. We're in this to co-operate and if you aren't gonna play nice, neither will I.

>>713502119
typical revenant player with the darkness skin lmfao dying 3 bars at level 1, the darkness skin players are always the least skilled

>>713501897
>though it could be argued that scariung shitbirds away makes the community healthier
thats funny since everyone would rather have a bad duo than ragequitting baby.
you take actual personal offense from being ignored in a game that communicates solely with pings.
the duo is outvoting you 2/3 every time. get some friends, you genuinely mentally unstable manchild. typical /v/

>>713502119
>mistreating me.
Self absorbed
>item-hogging
Self absorbed
>shit routing
self absorbed
>if you aren't gonna play nice, neither will I.
self absorbed

None of that is run ending until you decided it was and threw.
I'll take a retard who's doing all of that and dying left and right over placating you or stroking your ego.

>>713502297
I purposefully lost runes all day. It's called throwing anon, I'm trying to drag us down so we game over and I can queue again.

>>713502315
>thats funny since everyone would rather have a bad duo than ragequitting baby.
Yeah but since most of those people aren't themselves, rude selfish faggots who would do things so offensive as to set me off, they'll only know me as the based guy who knows where lots of the treaure chest spawns are and gifted them a clutch purple he cherrypicked from one.


>>713502395
>Self absorbed
Nope. We entered a social contract to support one another.
>Self absorbed
No, it's basic teamwork to make the team stronger. If your Recluse doesn't have a fucking staff, she can't drop nukes like she' supposed to.
>self absorbed
Nope. A simple fact. If you're rushing churchees and not even clearing PoIs on your way to them, you're a king shitter who's scared that he'll run out of flasks because he's so bad at the game that he can't avoid eating shit.
>None of that is run ending
Of course not. It was FUN ending.

its not that hard to hide and filter attentionwhores

>>713502574
>I died on purpose I swear!
sure lol no one would throw a match at the nightlord at that point you sunk like 40 minutes into it. I have almost a 60% win ratio with randoms, I win what look like bad runs all the time. most randoms are pretty good I've only ever had to leave 2 matches. The people who complain about randoms are usually the common denominator, poor players that drag the team down

>>713502574
>wants to play like he would with friends
>with randoms
You're a petulant child who's just mad that people aren't doing what YOU want them to do.
It hurts YOUR ego, so YOU feel sleighted, so YOU lash out because YOU think they ned to be punished over YOUR judgment.
Entirely self-absorbed.

>>713502861
That one was special

>Night 2 boss is dead
>My Remembrance is nearby
>I ping it [the little red flag shows up for everybody on the little notification feed if I do that] so they know what's up
>I run off to quickly suicide run it [I can afford to lose a level, it's just Doggo and we're well geared]
>They're so impatient they force the fight and cuck me hard
Even forgetting them ignoring my ping and not caring or knowing.... I was teleported into a nightlord at 3 bars without an estus refill. What if I simply had to take a quick shit before Gladius?

>>713502953
>wants to play like he would with friends
>with randoms
Correct, this is the entire ethos of Soulsborne multiplayer. This what Miyazaki said about his inspiration for creating the Demon's Souls multiplayer dynamics.
>"The origin of that idea is actually due to a personal experience where a car suddenly stopped on a hillside after some heavy snow and started to slip," says Miyazaki. "The car following me also got stuck, and then the one behind it spontaneously bumped into it and started pushing it up the hill... That's it! That's how everyone can get home! Then it was my turn and everyone started pushing my car up the hill, and I managed to get home safely."
>"But I couldn't stop the car to say thanks to the people who gave me a shove. I'd have just got stuck again if I'd stopped. On the way back home I wondered whether the last person in the line had made it home, and thought that I would probably never meet the people who had helped me. I thought that maybe if we'd met in another place we'd become friends, or maybe we'd just fight..."
>"You could probably call it a connection of mutual assistance between transient people. Oddly, that incident will probably linger in my heart for a long time. Simply because it's fleeting, I think it stays with you a lot longer... like the cherry blossoms we Japanese love so much."

>It hurts YOUR ego, so YOU feel sleighted, so YOU lash out because YOU think they ned to be punished over YOUR judgment.
Yes because I think the correct thing: We should treat one another as equals and try to have fun together.
>Entirely self-absorbed
Nope. Just not willing to tolerate filth.

>>713502967
You can't communicate so 90% of players do the remembrance solo, to not impede the run, the only people who don't do it solo are the bad players who struggle to do it solo. (aka the players that can't even beat the 1st nightlord like this anon in the webm).
>>713502574

>>713484527 (OP)
I ended up enjoying this game quite a bit despite my souls fatigue, but then I remembered that this is not a Miyazaki game, this is from that other guy Ishizaki. Perhaps I just have Miyazaki fatigue, I'm really tired of his tropes, but maybe the other directors at Fromsoft can still make some fun games, hopefully we'll get a Tanimura game after Duskbloods.

>>713503137
>because I
again, YOU
>Just not willing to tolerate filth.
Yes, YOU.
It's all about YOU.
You are a self-absorbed and petulant child.

Your only rebuttal is
>nuh-uh, the bad worrds don't apply to ME

>>713503227
>to not impede the run
Anon, it's an easier than a field boss or PoI boss fight that's basically just one ult and it's over and you get 30k runes. Yhe only mistake is compromising routing over it [I didn't, I waited until routiong was over]. Would've been a free crystal tear for the other two players or even helped them get another level.

See? You're wrong and a shitter too lol.

>>713502574
whatever, i dont care. always give the randoms first chancento play leader anyways.
but you have admitted you simply lack the skill to carry. you probably think a run is lost when everyone is level 11 with shit purples at the nightlord.
youll never know the highs of 3 retards locking the fuck in and making the impossible happen. you cant even feel motivated to play if winning doesnt seem assured. just quit already youve clearly peaked.

>>713503296
>again, YOU
Yes. ME. The equal partner in our co-operative endeavor that will last the better part of an hour.
>You are a self-absorbed and petulant child.
No, you're a rude little monster who was raised by trash.
>nuh-uh, the bad worrds don't apply to ME
Correct. I'm playing with the team in mind, doing my best for the TEAM. When they aren't and do so the point that it HARMS the team [bad routing, basic item distribution], I cannot enjoy myself anymore as anything I succeed at, is rewarding and benefiting garbage people who don't deserve it. I'd rather throw and have fun than tolerate nonsense just for gay game currency. There is literally no way they're less upset than me. I almost immediately begin enoying my new objective and the resulting chaos. They just get their fun fucked up [as they did to me]

>>713503303
That never happens the people who do remembrance with randoms always interfere with the run with really retarded pathing, including literally the fake story you just made up lmao you expect people to understand what you're doing? 99% of games people immediately go into the Day 3 zone. And then this person throws a fit after they don't get their way and bricks a 40 minute run? This is why everyone does the remembrance solo because it's just selfish you run across the map for a boss that doesn't even drop anything, and you look like a bad player that can't do the quest yourself.

>>713503527
>That never happens the people who do remembrance with randoms
That's what I did literally every time. I had to re-run several times because the routing didn't quite work out. You don't have an argument.

>PCfags are obnoxious no fun tryhards
>Consolechad are fun having cool gamers
Every single time

>>713503575
the webms just show a bad player that can't beat a nightlord why should anyone believe the cope, everyone does the remembrance solo I've done like 150 expeditions and have maybe seen other players doing their quest like 3 times

>>713501298
I've been there, my dude. It's not a good place.

>I'm playing
>I cannot enjoy
>I'd rather
>they're less upset than me
>I almost immediately begin enoying
>[as they did to me]
And this 'tard is trying to say he's not self-absorbed.
Who wants bets on age?
I've got mid-30s manchild

>>713503660
Anon...I'm this guy >>713485263 >>713487332

>>713503748
you can tell the guy in the webm contributed like 2% of the dmg in that boss fight look at him waddling back and forth and rev up a comet azur at nothing, but the worse one is the revenant in the darkness skin getting to 3 bars at level 1. thankfully the randoms I get aren't as bad as that guy

>>713503835
Cope.

>>713503908
you can tell that is the same player this anon posted here
>>713503748
because of how he panic rolls doing no dmg including with the ult, like how the duchess is waddling back and forth while their teammates carry them

Should I tell my friend he's dogshit to play with? He's a great friend otherwise but it's not fun playing this game with him. I don't want to overglaze myself but I'm pretty sure I'm the only reason he got most of his first clears. I don't just want to dump a ton of backseating on him that I know he won't absorb but he's horrendous at team coordination/routing and awful at nightlords - pretty much can never count on him to be doing good damage or clutching up.

>>713504250
I have a different question:
Do they enjoy playing without you?

>>713504313
I think so, mostly he only wants to do runs with me but I've seen him play solo a decent amount and I think he wants to do everyone's quests.

>>713504060
You can keep on coping and pretending and shifting goalposts but you've been thoroughly skullfucked and I'm bored. You're wrong, ill-raised, low class and probably have a double digit IQ.

Last (You), I'm gonna go queue. Have some OC though, in this clip I kill myself proccing rot to make sure we'll win vs Mega Adel. Proccing rot at that low HP was the best possible play I could've made.

>>713504381
Sounds like it's whatever, so just play with them less.

>>713504381
just go offline mode and play with randoms when you want to break from him

>>713502574
I never play with randoms, but honestly this seems based. I used to invade a lot so I know just how nigger tier the average DS3/Eldenbab can be. You don’t owe these scrubs the carry. Someone has to teach them the hard way

>>713504423
good luck, i hope you don't die a bunch at lvl 1 again lol

>>713485038
>a rare occurence
>this is somehow a problem when ds2 has myriads more shit like this

>>713504478
Most randoms are actually very good, and at that point you put like 40 minutes into the run so you might as well try to win for your own sake.

>>713484527 (OP)
True, after experienced Nightreign better mobility I can't go back to ER.

>>713504478
My friend, that is exactly the vibe here. I've spent all my patience over my 5k+ hours. I'm tired and mean now. I want to have jolly co-op but I have basic rules to keep myself sane. Like in basic Soulsborne co-op... You don't gesture at me when I enter your world? You're just running off to go mash R1 on mobs? Can't evn wave at me and say hello? I'll fuckin' sever/black crystal right there.

>>713504423
>he restaged while running in and did nothing with it
Oh dear. It wasn't a deliberate suicide. You were too busy looking at the restage CD since you'd just wasted it. Guarantee it.
Would've killed and lived too.
Lmao.

>>713504552
>Most randoms are actually very good

then why do they keep hitting 3bar while i'm at nobar

>>713504250
get him to play ironeye.
hard to be bad at him.

>>713504741
That only happens at the Nightlord and that's understandable 'cus I realize most people can't dump as much time as I do into the game and the amount of time you spend fighting the various Nightlords is pretty limited, so hard to get good at the fight. Genuine shitters is pretty rare, in my games it's by far more common I get players that contribute quite well.

>>713504552
I believe you and in most cases I’d probably do the same, but basic etiquette has to be upheld especially since this community has been flooded with normalfags, streamertards, zoomgroids and other assorted refuse
>>713504637
That webm seems familiar… are you the invader guy from ER threads who always trolls the resident schizo?

>>713504250
Tell him to play ironeye and use the atk boost per evergaol clear + start with stonesword key relic. Even if he is utter garbage, it is next to impossible to provide no value to the team if you run this setup.

>playing revenant even though I never use her
>fight super gaping asshole
>me and the randoms do well, we finish day 2 at level 15 with an extra 80k runes
>think we got this
>immediately the recluse bites the dust
>wylder helps her while I start doing damage to the gaper
>tornado phase
>recluse dies again
>wylder dies reviving her
>i hit my ult, revive both
>recluse lives for 5 more seconds before going 3 bar now
>she's a lost cause, I just try to kill gaper
>wylder dies too
>i foolishly try to revive wylder at 2 bar
>get got
>game over
I shouldn't have tried to revive the wylder, I got too cocky

>>713504971
>That webm seems familiar… are you the invader guy from ER threads who always trolls the resident schizo?
I have done that yes. I've been active in 4chan Fromsoft threads since about 2010. Have been making webms for only a fraction of that times though.

Any tips on how to play Guardian Solo? especially on the later bosses.

And before anyone asks I'm behind and just took down Libra
Wylder's Remberance is done )with a few others there partway) and so i want to start working on the others

>>713499083
>>713499117

>>713504971
It's just gross to be a Probably-NEET with a huge amount of time to play the game, and ruin people's matches (that are 40 minutes in length) who has a limited amount of time to play. I'd feel dirty doing that but I've played the game a ton and never seen someone do that.

>>713505226
I mean if I was a wagie slavy who had limited time between dickflattening sessions at the dildo factory, I'd treat people with respect and courtesy so they'd respond by doing the same to me in kind... Kind of weird how people with less time than me don't respect it or think everybody will just eat their farts.

which weapons should I use as a revenant?

>>713505226
His time is important because video games are the only important thing in his life.

>>713505320
whatever the game drops for you

>>713505192
Patience, mostly. Guardian is a probably the most team oriented character there is, his inbuilt kit or the weapons he's likely to get aren't really tailored for damage output. You can slow and steady your way through everything by just getting good at his shield stance and getting stuff that procs while walking/on guard counter. His halberd charged guard counter also covers a good deal of distance, so you can hit back even after the knocked back shield animation.
His relics are also super important as they increase his functionality a fucking lot - the heal by holding his ult one pretty much turns his ult into both a huge invuln window to skip a boss mechanic and a full heal.

>>713503908
Is this supposed to be good gameplay?

>>713504423
>carried shitter got mad

>>713505320
Seals, starlight shards, generally hold her starter claws because they're probably the best weapon in the game for reviving teammates, and they're one of the few weapons that scale with faith so they're at least a solid-ish fallback if your drop luck is fuckin terrible. A bow is also a good safe fallback to do consistent damage, especially nice if you find one that gives fp back on hit.

>>713505504
Got it, I haven't got a Ult heal relic yet but I do have the Block retaliation one and a heal while blocking one.
I'm thinking of putting a rune boost in the last slot to make up for the increased time to kill.
The night bosses are not hard but I always feel underlevled.

>>713505226
Now again I don’t play randoms because I have friends so I can’t really say, but just knowing how the average coop babby in Elden Ring beat the game (aka got carried by their lvl 200 buddy) gives me a lot of contempt for these people and consequently little sympathy when they get trolled. You might not get what I’m talking about unless you were a redman yourself
>>713505308
>>713505176
Keep fighting that good fight red man!

>>713502574
>Throwing temper tantrum because other people dont do what he wants
Kek, I can imagine the impotent rage you feel in games when people shit on you.
The only way you can cope is to go grief some random normie who doesn't even expect to make it past day1

>>713484527 (OP)
I haven't watched a thing about Nightreign, but is it like Dark Souls fused with Fortnite or something?

The only thing I heard is that it has Co-op or it's entirely PVP or some weird shit.

Help me out here, boys.

>>713505675
The relic that makes his skill last longer also vacuums enemies in - you can get a good amount of souls by just killing more random little shits you run across, if you ever see a pack of 3+, just drop a skill and do an R2 to sweep through them. Takes very little time and nets you a good amount of essentially free souls while you're making your way through places - every random enemy is worth about 1000 souls in multiplayer, and solo you get a pretty hefty bonus which I don't remember the extent of.
Boxes in chapels also often have gold fowl feet, which can help if you remember to pop them - which I never fuckin do.

>>713505692
NTA and for context I just never redman in ER due to the lack of covenants so I can't attest to that.
But in my experience most NR players are good enough to reach the Nightlord but not good enough to play optimally or have a 100% clear rate on said Nightlord.
In my eyes if they fuck around the reasonable thing to do is cut them some slack. Its not a game to be played perfectly in the first place, otherwise the amount of wins needed to fight Hollister would be much higher.

>>713505910
its elden ring fused with fortnite
you pick a class, run a map that never changes and gets boring very quickly, and kill bosses

>>713505910
It's a roguelite Elden Ring where the randomization/run progression is timed and controlled by a shrinking ring ala Fortnite/Apex Legends. Entirely co-op, zero PVP other than the natural internet PVP of children throwing fits and griefing each other.

>>713505910
Imagine Elden Ring but the combat director is in charge of the whole game and makes it into PvE fortnight.
Because that's what it is

>>713505953
There’s a difference between someone being a noob and outright antisocial behavior in a coop game. Now is anon’s response also antisocial? Sure, but he’s an unhinged neet and he has the right to be that way

>Stumble across an Omen Bairn at some point
>Figure it probably scales well with Faith like in the base game
>Go Revenant and keep searching Deathblight ruins until I find another
>It does dickall damage
>Check it and the Regal Omen Bairn in the codex after
>No scaling of any kind, so they probably just do flat damage
Man.

>>713505953
Bro, it's not about no mistakes. It's about redflags. Snatching a Purple Greatshield while your Guardian is on his starting shield? Looting staffs when you're playing with a Recluse and are Wylder? Literally ignoring the objective of the game so you can stack flasks and maybe die later than you would've otherwise? These are all red flags. Just like not gesturing in main game Elden Ring co-op>>713504637 is a red flag, failing to treat me/allies as an equal is unacceptable. I have yet to clock a situation where another ally is getting cuked by our third but I'd throw in that case too. [maybe something like a Raider hogging a Carian Regal Scepter when we have a Recluse would be enough to set me off]

If you prove you're either retarded or a bad person, I'd rather ruin your time and then requeue. I'd simply quit but From will penalize that.

>>713506020
>>713506028
>>713506125

Thanks, boys. Weird stuff they did there...

So there's basically no progression whatsoever?

You finish a dungeon and you cannot unlock shit to bring or to find, like Binding of Isaac?

>>713506242
>no progression whatsoever
You auto level at sites of grace. Your Character already has rankings in Attributes, and they pretty much just get better at those things.
Also you find better gear as you level up and fight harder field bosses.

>>713506125
>Sure, but he’s an unhinged neet and he has the right to be that way
And we can continue to berate and mock him for it.
Bullying corrects behaviour. But because the game has no communication his version doesn't correct anything. He's just being an arse for any number of unknown reasons to the randoms.
Our bullying can at leeast maybe correct his behaviour. Unlikely, but fun all the same.

>>713506242
Adding on to >>713506306
At the end of a run you get randomized relics that add different character modifiers to runs you can equip 3 of at a time.
Also there are 8 playable characters each with 8 part character quests that randomly can progress at the end of a run win or lose. Some of which unlock different endings.
And you need to beat 4 of the final run bosses you pick from before a run to unlock the final boss.

>>713506380
I think he's genuinely like, assburgers. As in he has no ability to be normal in social situations (online or offline).

>>713506242
That's why I specifically mentioned Roguelite - By completing runs or character-specific quests you get relics, each character can equip 3 at a time, with restrictions based on a color class, and each relic can have 3 passives.
So you can, to an extent, adjust your starting equipment or stats, or have unique effects that change the character's skills, like adding a follow-up attack to a grappling hook skill the character Wylder has.
Other than the unique effects, the relics are relatively minimal (stuff like making your party gain 2.5% more souls is one of the better ones), and there's not too much in the way of the 'god run' you can get with stuff like Binding of Isaac where you find completely overpowered shit that fundamentally alters your playstyle.

>>713484527 (OP)
Elden ring looks pretty but the gameplay is mind numbingly boring after a while. Haven't played nightreign but I can see it being better if it actually has engaging gameplay

>>713506427
Bullying earlier in their life could've corrected that. Assburgers is mostly uncorrected due to coddling that inhibits a survival response to adapt.
These conditions didn't only become more recognised, they becmae nurtured.

>>713502119
>that entire post
you're either a woman or a faggot

>>713506487
>I can see it being better if it actually has engaging gameplay
It's ER if you cut pretty much all the chaff. I'm surprised how fun it is.

>>713506576
Distilled jolly co-op

>>713506559
Might even be worse than that. Some horrific blend of assburgers and narcissistic personality syndrome. The focus on "how they've treated me justifies my behaviour" really speaks to an outsized ego and lack of social skills. A person like this wouldn't last long in normal society without excessive coddling from a doting parent or grandparent.

>>713506487
Its ER with wall running and character Unique Gimmicks, Skills and everyone can spring and wallclimb.
Like Wylder has a grapple hook and a pilebunker that auto staggers.
Guardian (Birdman) Has a super defense mode
Executor (Redish Brown Armor Katana Man) has a Sekiro Gameplay Mode
Revenant (Doll Girl with flower crown) is Summons the character
ect

>>713506609
I understand they wanted to keep the Souls-like mysterious strangers theme, but playing NR with voicechat with the bros is just kino as fuck.

>>713506664
Kids don't go out and intereact with others, teachers don't let them shit test each other in schools.
Parent/guaradian don't even have to be particularly doting. Could just have no siblings in that environment.
No conflict, no compromise.

>>713506830
Maybe, I think it'd just get boring as everything gets hyper efficient. Throw me in the shit with randos and make me make do.

>bullying corrects behavior
Good point. That's why I bully people who disrespect their allies in NR. It's mostly for catharsiss and revenge but I can't lie, I also hope it reforms them. Everything else is you coping with the fact that I might tell you to eat shit instead of eating your rude, discourteous farts.

>>713506713
Yeah I can see that being better.

>>713507016
>But because the game has no communication his version doesn't correct anything. He's just being an arse for any number of unknown reasons to the randoms.
It's aimless and self-absorbed punishment for no purpose.
You can keep telling yourself otherwise, but you've clearly displayed the real intent already. Pipe down, we're talking about you, not to you.

>all bosses done solo, pirate copy day zero patch
okay now what
do I go back to Base elden ring and play a real game
mod it with the nightlords and the naruto shit?
not buying the game for multiplayer until some fat discount, not into buying full priced dlcs
50 hours of gameplay when base ER gave me 500 for the first time :(
roguelikes usually nets me 200 hours
why is there a red autist shitting the thread

I like all the general combat changes they made. Hitting enemies while they're being riposted. Telegraphed grab attacks and special grab dodges. Spells tied to focus (fuck scrolling the menu). And also even though surge sprint takes so much stamina I'd rather just use it at all times instead of the shitty regular sprint.

>It's aimless and self-absorbed punishment for no purpose.
It's for a very clear purpose: Revenge and fun while avoiding Fromsoft's penalties for disconnecting from a session. To end the round as fast as possible, I have to make us lose. To make us lose, I have to be as horrible as possible to the team. This is justified because they broke the social contract first.

Cope.

>>713507016
Unless you message the players afterwards telling them what happened, the won't get what your doing and will just think our shit.
You don't correct anything, only assuage your own ego and in a better world people who act like you would have their toys taken away and be forced into labor until they can curb their maladaptive traits.

>>713507016
I thought invaders healing was baby bitch material - have times changed? Also as my first time engaging with you, I've really got to ask, don't you value your own time? Like, sure you may lose by playing with dipshits, but I at least find more entertainment in trying than just rolling over and 'trolling' people who you can't even get a reaction from. Do you genuinely believe you're going to 'correct' their behavior somehow?

>>713507261
>Unless you message the players afterwards telling them what happened, the won't get what your doing and will just think our shit.
Nah. I already even had a guy try to taunt me by dropping and snatching the item I was upset he "stole" from me.

>>713507267
>I thought invaders healing was baby bitch material
Bro, I'm a fucking home invader. Here to slit you'r fuckin' throat. Honor is for dueling arenas.

>>713507321
Weren't you caterwauling earlier about how people are supposed to emote as a sign of respect or something? Isn't there some unspoken social contract?

>>713507261
Just let him scream into the void now.
He's been told to pipe down, he can have his tantrum.

>>713507385
For people on the same side? Obviously. As a person who forcibly entered your game with the goal to kill you, I expect nothing from you but for you to die and you shouldn't expect anything from me.

>>713507439
I'm going to ask you to put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. I believed a certain thing about etiquette when it comes to invaders. You don't believe that, and actively betray the expectations I have. Do you see how different people may have different expectations, and that neither are necessarily wrong? There's no direct communication in Nightreign, the social contract is quite unspoken - there's no reasonable expectation outside of, "Attempt to win." That's the one thing that you're expressly not doing, and the children on the other side of you probably have no idea why you're breaking the contract and wasting their and your own time.

holy shit an actual autist meltdown

>>713507648
>Do you see how different people may have different expectations, and that neither are necessarily wrong?
Sure but in my case I'm right and you don't have evena shred of an argument because I'm just asking for a very low level baseline level of courtesy. Don't stubbornly play badly or treat your human allies like NPCs and leave them nothing but loot scraps.
>There's no direct communication in Nightreign, the social contract is quite unspoken
Correct. When you reveal that your idea of the contract varies so much from mine, I stop respecting you and choose to punish you.
>there's no reasonable expectation outside of, "Attempt to win."
Ignoring your team's pings and taking loot they'd be more effective with are dogshit "attempts to win".
>the children on the other side of you probably have no idea why you're breaking the contract and wasting their and your own time.
Don't care. Either they feel bad and learn or they simply feel bad. I get to feel good and since they refused the option where we ALL feel good, I'll HEARTILY slam that "only I feel good" button.


You're a selfish rude retard and feel seen by my posts and stories and are desperately hoping you can "fix" me because you know I'll throw if we end up matched someday. That's how it seems at least.

>>713507662
Niggers should learn how to stop giving attention whores what they want

>>713507820
NTA (I play Solo) but based off this thread I just think your kinda dumb, like in the intellectually disabled way, and hide it under a self-importance which is kinda pathetic from the outside, and the other anons are fruitlessly trying to reach you because if they do so, both you and the NR community will be better off.

>>713507648
It's funny, they speak of etiquette and healing yada yada but even as the host being invaded, I won't heal until they do.
And they keep displaying how self-absorbed they are at every turn.
I actually pity them.

>>713507820
Well, I tried. I don't play with randoms, so kind of irrelevant what you feel about my motivations, I just figured I'd see if even the most basic idea of you not being the center of the universe might stick. Please enjoy your constant state of what you claim is enjoyment.

>>713507967
It's not self-importance anon. It's self-interest. If you don't meet the standard I find necessary [not acting like a retarded selfish nigger] I salvage my fun by throwing.

The community will never be better off. My way just makes me have more fun, has a small chance of reforming retards AND circumvents Fromsoft's penalties. A quit is a soft throw and most parties that suffer a quit lose in the end. More than half of my parties that turn Duo end up failing. Probably near 80%. That could be biased by my samples and shit but broadly the quit is always a demoralizing hit and a symptom of a scuffed run.

>>713508027
I'm not the center of the universe anon. I'm simply your peer. If you don't treat me as such, I'll waste your time.

I genuinely enjoy the pace of the game but dislike relic cheaters to make themselves god and nullify the nightlord fight. Also I've had two different people add me on Steam and attempted to do Elden Ring Nightreign erp (unprompted) with me. So it's a very mixed bag and I don't know what the fuck to think.

>>713508263
There's a report feature. Cna be done at the end or through the Visual Codex.
Can't hurt.

>>713508332
I did. The faggot nigger gave himself the power of house yadayada on each gem which is literally impossible for gems to have along with phy+2s and 2handing bonus dmg. From what I've seen in the general on vg reporting does nothing as many have reported him for being a nigger and ruining the match by insta winning.

>>713508437
I can only assume they'll ban in waves. When? We have no idea. It's rarely on sight these days but after they've built safeguards and checks for certain types of exploits.

This game is the absolute epitome of "Hell is other people"
>Wylder who took tree sentinel shield when we had a guardian on the team
>Separated and never followed us (randoms not a duo)
>Generally retarded
>2nd game
>Revenant and Recluse, I am Ironeye
>Revenant is good, Recluse seems pretty decent too
>Disconnects 1st night
>Never returns
I am giving them the benefit of doubt but cmon man

Any particular tips for Executor or Raider? I wanna branch to them but I just end up plying Wylder 100% of the time because his skills and weapons are just so damn versatile and easy to use.

>>713485115
He's just visiting the lands between.

>>713506713
>wall running
what? what do you mean wall running? can you post a webm?

>>713509850
>I am Ironeye
Opinion discarded

>>713510272
It's basically just used to climb walls, acting like a 2nd jump height wise. Then a bog standard ledge grab and scramble up. It's just to make getting around terrain faster/easier.

>>713504478
>You don’t owe these scrubs the carry.
You can't owe something you can't even do.

They really need to give Revenant a way to regen fp

>>713504423
>that restage
You're fucking shit mate, don't upload something so embarrassing next time.

>>713511249
They should also extend the timer a few minutes if there is a shifting earth.
I swear every time I get the fucking city, we get halfway through the Astel before the circle closes in, its super fucking gay

>>713511402
People are just slow to go there. People should be doing the dragon on the way in at the start of day 2 and Carian Knight on the way out after.
Too many don't even go there until the circle first shrinks because they wasted day 1.
There's no need for more time.

>>713511402
Just need to go earlier. What I would like them to do though is mark the bosses in Noklateo on the map, there's plenty but only the dragonkin soldier is marked. That and it's pretty hard to find your way around means it just fucks you out of the xp the castle would give

>>713509946
>Executor
You are functionally invincible. Use deflections when enemies attack, deal status attacks otherwise. Use dog for area damage or as an instant full heal.

>or Raider
You're not functionally invincible, so keep your health in mine. Find weapons to powerstance ASAP because Raider's default Colossal moveset sucks ass.