Thread 713489221

I'm sorry but the dpad is in the wrong freaking spot on xbox controllers

>>713489221 (OP)
Dualshock-like placement is inferior for shooters.

>>713489221 (OP)
good mornin, gamesaar.

>>713489276
>>713489221 (OP)
Also you can tell Smash was made with the Gamecube/Xbox style in mind when you emulate it.

>>713489276
Controllers in general are inferior for shooters

>>713489221 (OP)
I 100% agree, but dualshock controllers feels fucking too small

dpad on the left is only slightly more comfortable when play fighting games or rhythm games, and even then you have the option of actual dedicated arcade controllers for those
meanwhile literally every other genre feels worse with the snoy layout

>>713489221 (OP)
As much as I enjoyed games on the 360, the controller always felt worse than ps.

>>713489221 (OP)
I'm sorry but false. The stick is the primary input for 99% on modern games, it goes in the primary spot.

>>713489221 (OP)

On mobile smartphone I use that claw placement so that I can use 4 fingers when playing shooters. I would think that the dual shock's placement of the dpad and joysticks would be better for claw.

ENTER

>>713489936
the chosen one...

>>713489936
>buttons in the shittiest spot ever so that food crumbs from tendies will slide right off
leave

>>713489936
>Gyro solves console aiming
>No one but Nintendo uses it
Huh?

>>713489936
Stay

>>713489454
>dualshock controllers feels fucking too small
But they're larger (now). The DS4 and Dualsense outsize the xbox controllers in terms of the shell's total dimension and input layout. Only the Duke was bigger (in total dimensions at least).
I can't go back to a classic Dualshock any more than I can stand to use any modern xbox controller, their layouts and shapes feel too cramped. There's no other controller shape I'd want to use than the DS4 layout.

>>713489603
>it goes in the primary spot.
Which is at the bottom, where it's more comfortable for people with normal to large hands.

>>713490243
Actually everyone but microsoft used it, so it stayed an extremely niche feature since 2005.
YES.
TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING FIVE.
TWENTY, FUCKING, YEARS.

>>713490243
sony has been using gyro since the ps3. it's just that games can't go all in on gyro until xbox uses it too, some sony exclusives have made use of it.

>>713490331
No need to lie

>>713490435
>>713490365
Which Sony shooters actually used gyro?
Genuinely curious, I only remember it being used sparingly for a few gimmicks and shaking Rose's tits.

>>713490243

I use gyro on mobile games. Helps with recoil and micro adjustments when aiming while the thumbs are for bigger movements, index fingers are for tapping the aim and fire buttons and many other buttons which is possible using 4 fingers claw grip.

>>713489442

Mouse and keyboard is better.

>>713489760
>>713489221 (OP)

Claw grip placements for the various controllers and mobile devices. The bigger iPad and other Android tablets allow for 8 or even 10 fingers to be used.

>>713490509
my personal use case for it was in nioh 2 where you can go into the bow/gun mode and it was great there for getting off headshots without breaking up the flow of combat. i don't play fps on consoles so i'm not really sure about shooters.

>>713490509
COD is frontrunner putting it in every game, there's quite a few otherwise
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/svbqnd/updated_playstation_list_of_games_with_gyro_aim/

>>713490509
You're retarded

>>713490509
>Which Sony shooters actually used gyro?
Most didn't so it wouldn't be an accessibility problem.

>>713489221 (OP)
That looks like a Vita D-pad. Does it feel like one as well?

>>713490696
Interesting, I found a much shorter list, but it also seems like you have to go out of your way to find people using it.

>>713490509

Nintendo Wii and Switch 1 and 2 games use gyro. People who play Splatoon use the gyro/motion controls.

>>713490607
>>713490365

Jokesta on Call of Duty: Mobile uses gyro/motion controls whenever he plays on smartphones.

https://youtu.be/r79MwfCooAo

>>713490696

You can use gyro on CoD console games and even Fortnite console, but it deactivates the aim assist since the gyro aiming is almost similar to the precision os mouse with keyboard, not quite, but almost.

>>713490830
No, it's a generic and unnoteworthy membrane d-pad.

>>713491063
Is this faggot wearing little booties for his thumbs? BAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>713489221 (OP)
That's because you're a handlet and a thumblet

>>713489221 (OP)
>Almost perfect design
>Rimmed sticks

>>713490607
Claw grip is for subhuman crustacean "people"

>>713492714
Which controller with eight back buttons are you using to eliminate the use case?

>>713489936
kino

>>713490213
>eating while playing
kill yourself degenerate fucking ape

>>713489276
Then why isn't it an issue on the right side, where you're using the right stick in faster, more precise ways than the left? Your comment has always been a flawed response to the stick position debates.

>>713489276
>playing shooters on a gamepad

>>713489221 (OP)
>hardwired

>>713489936
DO NOT REDEEM THIS BLOODY BASTARD BENCHODE

i just want a steam controller with a d-pad instead of an analog stick
the pads obsolete sticks, sticks feel terrible and are more inarticulate than most of the posts in a /vpol/ thread

>>713494321

Controller aim assist can be overpowered sometimes. Apex Legends had to have their teams require Bangalore since her smokes disable the aim assist, forgot which tournament that was but people were complaining about the aim assist. ImperialHAl even won a tournament using just Controller aim assist to prove the point that controller aim assist can be overpowered especially since the majority of mouse and keyboard users aren't on the level of pro players.

>>713493051
>Which controller with eight back buttons are you using to eliminate the use case?
http://battlebeaver.com
also you don't need 8 buttons